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Title: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 09, 2006, 11:40:00 AM
ok so it happened like this i used to have windows home edition and supposly a man said he could give profesional fro $100 but instead he gave me fake windows and now i can't download anything from microsft and run any updates . SO i talkd to my mom and i am probobly going to get windows xp professional .Igot a question when u insall new windows will everything erase on my computer becuase that could help me out rite now >:(
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: sergofun on December 09, 2006, 12:44:30 PM
Windows installer will erase all your data. Make backup before you'll install new copy of Win XP.
Win XP Pro is good choise, you'll see it! :D
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: DavidR on December 09, 2006, 03:02:37 PM
If you check with MS about getting a genuine version and report who sold you the fake/pirated version I believe you might just get a free license number they used to do that.

A lot depends on what you do when you install it, provided you don't allow it to format your partition then it shouldn't delete your data, but it would be wise to back-up your data as sergofun said, emails, favourites, address book, network/ISP settings, passwords, any registrations like avast key, etc.

The New genuine CD for XP Pro should detect an existing installation and you should be able to do an installation over the top. However you would probably be better starting from a completely clean system having backed up what data you have to and format the Partition and then a clean install.
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 10, 2006, 01:09:20 AM
ok i get it now but i have rite now windows xp professional sp1 but it is not genuine so when i get the new windows either home or pro don't know would i be able to install it fine and what is OME will that work too


another question is upgrade what is the difference with all that ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 10, 2006, 01:13:28 AM
ok here is a site where i found

http://www.softwareoutlet.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=3324&Category_Code=MICS-010&Product_Count=0

so could i install these windows with no problem and will i be able to update and stuff like i used to before i switche to the fake windows by mistake and are they genuine too ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: DavidR on December 10, 2006, 01:42:41 AM
Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) version of windows XP, pro or home are technically only to be supplied when you purchase hardware, hard disk, motherboard, etc. So technically you could have an issue with WGA, possibly not, but it is an expensive option if it doesn't work.

Upgrades must have a qualifying previous version of windows and that is meant to be a retail version. It doesn't have to be installed but you have to have the genuine CD that it came on available for validating.

You would be safer with a purchase of the Retail version, more costly but less likely to be a problem and it would also be a qualifying product in the future should you choose to get Vista, etc.

Before doing any of this I would contact MS or visit the WGA validation and there should be a link about getting a genuine copy. You may well be able to grass the supplier that sole the copy and possibly get a free license. If you do great, if not, nothing lost.

For an OEM explanation see the link on their own site http://www.softwareoutlet.com/soldas.htm#oemcoa but I think they are dancing around the issue of if it has to be with a system or a hardware purchase.

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The second one is the OEM products which are sold mainly to system builders, such as Compaq and Dell (the OEMs). These bulk-pack products do not have fancy packaging materials and are often produced in much higher volume, both of which result in much lower prices that have not been available to the public. The OEM products are of the same quality and often carry the same manufacturer warranty as their retail counterparts (the single-pack). They also often include supporting materials such as manuals and drivers when applicable. However, most of the information is on a CD or on manufacturer's web site.
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 10, 2006, 01:58:53 AM
check out this link


http://www.royaldiscount.com/wixphoedsp2.html

does this sound like a good deal and will i be abel to install it good from the fake windows i have now windows xp pro sp 1 ???????????????
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 10, 2006, 02:01:40 AM
i have another question if the installation is successfully will it wipe all the memory in my computer and start like over because that is what i am hoping for  ;D because my computer is messed up like my user accounts i can't open and help and support i can't use and some other programs won't open so yea i am hoping it will wipe my memory and be like the first time i got it
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: DavidR on December 10, 2006, 01:45:18 PM
I'm sorry I can't check out what are good deals or not that is something you have to decide based on your location, I'm in the UK and haven't got a clue about what is a good deal in the US.

The problem you have you are currently using XP Pro and trying to install a retail version of XP Home is a downgrade (as far as your system is concerned), it may object to trying to install home over pro and as I have previously said you would probably be best to back-up your data and do a clean install.

Memory is volatile and one you boot anything in there is lost. It isn't memory that has your accounts messed up but the data (registry entries, etc.) on the Hard Disk and that is what you need to back-up your data files, etc. and wipe/format your Hard Drive and start again.

However, this isn't a task to be entered into lightly. Based on the input in this topic I feel this is NOT something you should personally undertake and seek help locally, a friend, relative with good computer know how or if the worst comes to the worst local computer shop.
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 01:59:09 PM
Windows installer will erase all your data
If you format the drive (partition) where you will install Windows.
Otherwise, you can update your old installation (overinstallation) and this won't delete your old, bad, data.
So, install with format  ;)
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: justin1278 on December 10, 2006, 04:33:17 PM
check out this link


http://www.royaldiscount.com/wixphoedsp2.html

does this sound like a good deal and will i be abel to install it good from the fake windows i have now windows xp pro sp 1 ???????????????

Yes that seems like a good deal, at walmart XP home is almost $200, so this is much better.
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 10, 2006, 05:56:36 PM
i know that is what i told my mom lol ;D but she said she was going to take a look at best buy anyways  8)
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 10, 2006, 05:57:48 PM
but i just hope that however i get my windows i hope it is going to be easy to install it over my current fake windows xp pro sp 1 that is the only concern i am having rite now :-\
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: DavidR on December 10, 2006, 06:22:03 PM
I believe you are heading for trouble, even if it allows you to install over the top, it should detect the presence of the existing OS, unless you are going to ask it to format the partition before the install.

If you mean literally install one OS over the other without a format, you should only contemplate an install over the top of the same OS XP Pro over XP Pro as there are so many differences between Home and Pro there would be remnants of the Pro Install.
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: sergofun on December 10, 2006, 09:05:44 PM
clueless23, I think it's better for you to make backup, then format the drive (partition) and, after all, install XP Pro.
As DavidR has said, installing over old OS could make some troubles.
And don't forget to install avast! (or another antivirus) after installing\upgrading Windows.
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 10, 2006, 09:37:53 PM
so i can't get home sp2 installed in my computer ???
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 10, 2006, 09:44:25 PM
are these windows fine

Windows XP Professional with SP1


here is the site

http://www.viosoftware.com/Windows+XP+Professional/Windows+XP+Professional+with+SP1.html?osCsid=4e5278d1f97155b24ba552b52e36bb47

it seems goo enough to me
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: sergofun on December 10, 2006, 10:11:46 PM
Windows XP Pro with SP2 much more better.
If you'll install XP SP1, you see you need to install SP2 (and, if you want to be in safe, other updates after SP2 so).
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: DavidR on December 10, 2006, 11:07:42 PM
so i can't get home sp2 installed in my computer ???

That isn't what we are saying, but to do so I would recommend that you format the C:\ drive before putting the xp home CD into the tray and booting (this has to be done outside windows as you can't format the drive it is on whilst it is running). You would have to ensure the BIOS has the CD drive in the boot sequence.

For those reasons and if you don't have any experience of installing the OPS on a clean formatted drive were the reasons I suggested you get some help.

You would be better of with XP Pro as the Home version wil lose support in about 18 months now Vista is out, but the Pro version has a much longer support life cycle. Not to mention you would probably notice differences between Pro and Home.

I would have thought that would have SP2 versions and looking, they do, but they want $249 for the Full retail version.
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 11, 2006, 12:24:57 AM
i know windows pro sp2 is way better tehan xp pro sp1 but i just wants genuine windows rite now ;D then later i could get them cause they coat a lot like $246 o close to that :-\
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 11, 2006, 12:55:10 AM
ok i am relly confused i am not so well with computer i just know the basics what do u mean format the c disk drive can u simplify that in esier terms that i could undestand ??? i am really confused so what do i simply have to do so i could install windows xp hom edition sp2
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: Lisandro on December 11, 2006, 01:29:21 AM
I could install windows xp hom edition sp2
Here in forums we can only guide you IF you have a legal, legit, Windows CD for install.
Sorry (or not), no piracy in avast forums  :)
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 11, 2006, 01:49:38 AM
ok but what my big question si can i install windows xp home edition service pack 2 over windows xp pro service pack 1 but these current pro windows are fake so that is why i am going to update it to home edition service pack 2 if i can of course :'(
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: DavidR on December 11, 2006, 02:13:41 AM
It isn't something that can be easily explained in simple terms, it requires some experience of DOS commands, working with the BIOS, it isn't a simple task to format a partition outside of windows.

You have to boot into DOS mode and format the c: drive using the dos command format C:. You may not be able to do that directly and may have to have a bootable floppy disk with some basic dos commands on it like the format command. You would also need to change the boot order in the BIOS so the floppy drive is the first in order.

In doing this you lose ALL data on that drive, so that is why I suggested you get help. I don't feel comfortable giving instructions to do this as I don't feel you are experienced enough to undertake this on your own, sorry.

@ Tech clueless23 is trying to recover from a fake version and needs to install a legit version.
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: Lisandro on December 11, 2006, 02:35:29 AM
@ Tech clueless23 is trying to recover from a fake version and needs to install a legit version.

ok but what my big question si can i install windows xp home edition service pack 2 over windows xp pro service pack 1 but these current pro windows are fake so that is why i am going to update it to home edition service pack 2 if i can of course :'(

Now I got it... you can install a legit SP2 over a fake SP1 and update it.
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 11, 2006, 03:13:25 AM
OK cause i am getting windows home edition sp2 soon i really don't care if all my data on my computer is lost because i can download it again  ::) so that is the least all i really want to know and care about is that when i purchase windows xp home edition sp2 that it installs and i would be able to do updates and stuff from Microsoft as long as i have windows xp that are genuine i am fine!!!!!!!!! because let me tell u it stinks having fake windows i regret handing my computer to the man i learned a big lesson lol ;)
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: Lisandro on December 11, 2006, 03:19:11 AM
I really don't care if all my data on my computer is lost because i can download it againĀ  ::)
So, in this case, better use the CD, format your HDD before installing and do it for scratch with the SP2  8)
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: sergofun on December 11, 2006, 03:40:08 AM
clueless23, when you boot from CD with Win XP distrib, you'll have a several choices. Windows installer will suggest you:
1. Install new copy.
2. Restore old copy.
(may be something else - it differs and depends of  Win XP distrib).
When you choose "install new copy", Windows installer will ask you about erase all your data - if you'll choose it, installer will format your HDD (or partition - depends of your choice).
Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: CharleyO on December 11, 2006, 08:05:48 AM
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clueless23,

Where are you from? Here in the USA, I've seen XP Home SP2 for less than $100 on sale and just a little more than that when not on sale.


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Title: Re: Windows xp prfessional
Post by: clueless23 on December 11, 2006, 09:21:34 PM
it depends what you saw if was the OME then i saw it about that price too but i want to buy the full retail version 8) just in case something happens to my windows i can easily reinstall it. :P