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Title: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: New_Age on December 10, 2006, 02:54:14 PM
Hi,

Eversince I got home Avast! has been causing major CPU usage while scanning the Spyware Terminator.exe and the Spyware TerminatorSield.exe. I have no clue to what has caused this as it just started yesterday night eversince I came home from my friends house. I did however install their new version but I didn't notice this problem after I had it installed with over 4 days. But... now Avast! is starting to have problems. I didn't accept that AV program either while Installing Spyware Terminator.

So... what's the problem?

OS: Windows Xp Professional SP2
Version of Spyware Terminator: 1.7.0.883 (latest)

Note: Ignore my Sig. as I haven't had the time to update it.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 03:16:06 PM
Which are the situation of the residents? Are avast and ST residents running?
Are you refering to avast on-access or on-demand scaning?
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: New_Age on December 10, 2006, 03:19:03 PM
Both were running but for now I have disabled both Avast! and ST all together for now cause everytime I try to type and reply it hangs.

Yes... I believe it's the Access scanner.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 03:48:04 PM
Both were running but for now I have disabled both Avast! and ST all together for now cause everytime I try to type and reply it hangs.
Yes... I believe it's the Access scanner.
If you disable ST resident, will avast detect anything? Will it hang your system?
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: DavidR on December 10, 2006, 03:56:39 PM
I disabled the Resident elements of ST from the first time I installed it and had no problems with it and avast.

I have however, now uninstalled it, I didn't like the interface and options that I failed to understand what they would do, so it is history. I continue to use ewido and adaware for on-demand anti-spyware detection.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: New_Age on December 10, 2006, 07:07:12 PM
Both were running but for now I have disabled both Avast! and ST all together for now cause everytime I try to type and reply it hangs.
Yes... I believe it's the Access scanner.
If you disable ST resident, will avast detect anything? Will it hang your system?
This is weird. AshServ.exe is using 99% of my CPU Usage. I don't even have ST running  ???
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2006, 07:22:01 PM
This is weird. AshServ.exe is using 99% of my CPU Usage. I don't even have ST running  ???
Which is your firewall? Any other security program installed?
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: sergofun on December 10, 2006, 09:59:35 PM
New_Age, I've disabled the Resident elements of Spyware Terminator after installing it (too long to start many rules). Now I don't have any problem with using avast! and ST together.
I don't unistall ST, because it has some things, which can restore Windows after infection.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: New_Age on December 10, 2006, 10:07:01 PM
This is weird. AshServ.exe is using 99% of my CPU Usage. I don't even have ST running  ???
Which is your firewall? Any other security program installed?
I only use the Windows SP2 based Firewall. I have AVG Anti-Spyware, Ad-Ware and SUPERAnti-Spyware but none have Real-Time Protection Enable.

I still have Avast! and ST Disabled.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: avatar2005 on December 10, 2006, 10:59:38 PM
As for me I have the latest Avast & ST installed, & it seems I don't have any problems with them -- everything working just fine.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: New_Age on December 10, 2006, 11:19:16 PM
Hmm... I wonder if I should just do a clean Install of Avast!?  :-\
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: DavidR on December 10, 2006, 11:24:27 PM
It certainly shouldn't hurt, download the latest version, perhaps download the avast! Uninstall Utility, find it here (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html) and save it to your HDD  as well so you can find them later.

Uninstall, boot, run the Uninstall Utility, boot, install the latest version. Watch out for any security based program pop-up asking for permission for avast processes.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: Lisandro on December 11, 2006, 01:12:06 AM
New_Age, I've disabled the Resident elements of Spyware Terminator after installing it (too long to start many rules). Now I don't have any problem with using avast! and ST together.
New Age, I did the same as sergofun. I stay only with avast as resident and ST as an on-demmand scanner.
Clean install of avast should help.
1. Uninstall avast from Control Panel first.
2. Boot
3. Use Avast Uninstall (http://www.avast.com/files/eng/avclear4.exe) for complete uninstallation (read http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_uninstall_util.html)
4. Boot
5. Install again and Boot.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: DavidR on December 11, 2006, 02:01:33 AM
Tech, the link to avast_uninstall_util.html has changed and is now http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-uninstall-utility.html.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: New_Age on December 11, 2006, 02:49:47 AM
Ok a reinstall of Avast! seems to have worked but I'll let anyone know if I encounter any other problems. I just don't see why Avast! acted like this as this is it's second time. The first was caused by a program I had that I was unaware on my computer  ::)

But it was an odd issue but it's fixed  :)
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: alanrf on December 11, 2006, 04:02:46 AM
New_Age

it is good to know that the problem appears to be overcome for you.  I hope that we can keep in our collective memory that a reinstall took care of this for you.

It would be much more satisfying if we had managed to isolate the real issue that created the CPU utilization problem on your system. 


Ah well ... maybe next time, but let's hope it is not on your system.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: sergofun on December 11, 2006, 02:00:46 PM
Zone Alarm Pro 6.1.744.001 (anti-spyware module) says Spyware Terminator is spyware! :P
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: Lisandro on December 11, 2006, 03:47:28 PM
Zone Alarm Pro 6.1.744.001 (anti-spyware module) says Spyware Terminator is spyware! :P
Hmmm... I'm becoming worried...  :( >:(
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: DavidR on December 11, 2006, 04:07:00 PM
I'm afraid in this case I wouldn't take the detection in the case of a firewall AS module with a pinch of salt. Perhaps they are looking at the previous form of the parent company, now seen as not being a problem at SpywareWarrior.com on the rogue anti-spyware page.

I also don't feel anti-spyware bolt on plug-ins in suites or Pro versions of firewalls are up to much either. I disabled the AS plug-in in Outpost Pro, speeded up my boot time no end as avast wasn't looking over its shoulder. I believe firewalls should concentrate on being forewalls and not all things to all men.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: Tarq57 on December 11, 2006, 09:22:57 PM
Spyware Terminator is not spyware, the ST people have been in contact with the ZA people about this.But the latest version of ST is a bit buggy and this could be (in part) the reason. Have a look at the ST forums, they are working hard to resolve several issues.
I've been fortunate, ST and Avast, plus a few others, no problems worth mentioning.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: sergofun on December 12, 2006, 02:57:45 PM
Some links about ZA & ST:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=894335
http://forum.spywareterminator.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=2401
Tarq57, I saw you there ;)
May be you are right - ST not a spyware, but I'm in doubt.
It's too many problems with ST (may be because it's beta): too many rules, too many troubles, to  many questions...
I hope it's better for me to be in safe without ST - I've uninstalled it.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: Tarq57 on December 12, 2006, 11:25:26 PM
To sergofun, did you read post #28 on that wilders link? If not, that should go some way to resolving doubts. Although it's not actually a Beta right now, as you may have seen, for some users it's behaving like a Beta. It's impossible to know what percentage of users are having problems with it. But I'm sure not one of them. Hopefully the reported bugs will be resolved with the next release.
Title: Re: Spyware Terminator and Avast don't mix
Post by: sergofun on December 13, 2006, 03:12:29 AM
Tarq57 , thank you.
I’ve read it. It’s really interesting: “It is also very important to point out that all previous activities were shut down - we simply don't distribute any old Ibis/WebSearch products. We state in our Privacy Policy: "we will not share, rent or sell any of your personally identifiable information provided by you." … there is simply no existing adware/spyware distribution, the applications are not calling home for instructions, and we are not selling personal data”.
But I’ve made my choice and don’t want to go back.