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Title: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Vlk on December 29, 2006, 04:24:18 PM
The update is now officially released as avast 4.7.936. Thanks to everyone who helped testing this release -- let's hope it will be a successful one. :)


Update: the build number is now 4.7.932. The 932 build brings a couple of fixes (especially on Vista) as well as a new language module - Catalan.


Hi again,

as promised, here's the new (pre-release) version of the upcoming update of avast! Home/Professional. The version is currently labeled as 4.7.925 (edit: now 4.7.932).

How to install it (for starters - most people already know this trick anyway ): simply download and run the following program: link removed. That's about all it takes (provided you have the latest version of avast Home/Pro already installed, of course).

There is a number of fixes in this release. Here's the list of most important changes:


Any comments on this release are very welcome and appreciated!


Thanks
Vlk[/size]
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: DavidR on December 29, 2006, 04:46:12 PM
Thanks Vlk, downloading it now (dial-up, yawn), 5,442,926 bytes is that about right ?

Happy New Year to you, your family and the Alwil Team.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on December 29, 2006, 05:27:36 PM
Starting to test  8)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: .: Mac :. on December 29, 2006, 06:14:10 PM
Sounds like a great update. Multi-threaded scanning engine nice!
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: DavidR on December 29, 2006, 06:19:45 PM
A quick test reveals only small speed improvement in my case, but this is only against 6.1 GB of data on a Standard scan without archived. This is a scan that I do weekly and I have monitored times, previous scans were around 9:10 nine minutes ten seconds occasionally a little over.

I ran the first scan and went off, came back to a surprise avast had found a virus (in firefox browser cache, extension less file), a very rare event for me (I believe I know where it came from, testing a suspect site, but no alerts then), so that messed the timings somewhat. After confirming the detection was good at VirusTotal (only 7 other AVs detected it) I started the second scan.

This second scan took 8:50 eight minutes fifty seconds, so a small improvement (a little over 4%), which for those with much more data they should see an even better time saving. Whilst my CPU isn't a dual core it is probably now classed as below average (see signature), but whilst scanning the CPU load never got over 75% and frequently well below that, so the CPU would seem to be well up to the task.

So far no other anomalies seen.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: XMAS on December 29, 2006, 07:17:58 PM
I'll test it after the download is completed  ;D
Thanks  :)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Bluesman on December 29, 2006, 08:04:00 PM
as promised, here's the new (pre-release) version of the upcoming update of avast! Home/Professional.

Hurray! I will download it right away now and test it!  ;D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: alanrf on December 30, 2006, 01:02:12 AM
I am running on a Dell XPS 400 (Pentium Dual core) with 2Gb memory under Win XP SP2.  Disks are 2 SATA internal and 3 USB external.

Before installing the new beta:

I ran a standard scan of my system (all local disks - archive scan disabled).  Run time 10:37

I ran my normal weekly ashquick.exe scan of all drives.  Run time 40:19

I then installed the new beta and restarted the system:

I ran a standard scan of my system (all local disks - archive scan disabled).  Run time 9:51 (7% improvement)

I noted that during this scan one of the processors was almost completely idle for the entire duration of the scan.

I ran my normal weekly ashquick.exe scan of all drives.  Run time 32:35 (19% improvement).  This scan exercises both processors and even managed to run both at 100% simultaneously for brief peaks).

So - does the improvement mentioned only come with Intel Core 2 and not with Dual Core?

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: DavidR on December 30, 2006, 01:24:04 AM
So - does the improvement mentioned only come with Intel Core 2 and not with Dual Core?

I noticed Vlk mentioned Intel Core 2 in the bullet point features and wondered the same thing, but perhaps more thinking about AMD X2 CPUs
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: RejZoR on December 30, 2006, 01:41:10 AM
Hehe, and i was just wondering when will new version of avast! be available ;D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: mauserme on December 30, 2006, 02:34:19 AM
I can't get a fresh download of aswbeta.exe to run on this computer - had to use an old copy from a different computer to get this beta.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: .: Mac :. on December 30, 2006, 03:36:04 AM
David, I my guess its either multi-threaded or takes advantage of some kind of SSE instruction set in the C2D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: RejZoR on December 30, 2006, 07:00:21 AM
SSE and smilar instructins only help for lets say video encoding/decoding.
Vlk just mentioned Coe 2 Duo as it's a very new dual core CPU. I'm sure gains will be seen on AMD Athlon X2 series as well...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: alanrf on December 30, 2006, 07:12:03 AM
It would seem odd then, at least to me, that existing dual core CPU's cannot see the same improvement, mine being as ancient as 7 months.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Vlk on December 30, 2006, 11:56:01 AM
Guys, you misinterpreted my statement. ;) I never said scanning is now parallelized (it is not). I just said scanning speed is improved, especially on Core 2 architecture CPUs.

What actually took place is that one of the key scanning algorithms in avast (namely, a pattern matching algorithm)was completely replaced by a new one. The new code, originally written in C++ was then hand-rewritten to a highly optimized assembler by one of our ASM gurus. And while doing so, "Core 2" was chosen as the reference architecture (when hand-optimizing code, you usually have to choose a fixed CPU family/stepping (sometimes even the revision) because timings and other characteristics can be very different across different families). Core 2 was chosen for two reasons: first, it's a CPU of the future (more and more people will be getting it in the upcoming year), and second, we're REALLY excited about this CPU. It simply rocks, and we believe it's the biggest step Intel made since the transition to Pentium (AMD is clearly loosing the battle here). On the other hand, P4/Netburst is a nightmare (as in "really bad for code optimization") and this includes P4-D that alanrf probably has (the original Intel dual core CPU).

By the way, talking about parallelization of the scanning algorithm. This is definitely on our roadmap, but I'd just like to say that by default, it will definitely NOT be preset to use all N cores. Instead, we will probably make it use N-1 cores by default (that is, if your CPU is dual-core it would run on a single core (as it does now) anyway...). The reason is simple - we don't want to totally choke the computer while performing the scan! The whole beaty of multi-core processing is that more things can  be done in parallel (i.e. scanning for viruses AND something else). Well, at least theoretically - shared resources (such as the hard drive in our case) somewhat ruin this idea... :)

So, this feature will really start making sense when quad-core CPUs become more prevalent - and the release of avast 5 sounds like a timeframe reasonably aligned with this.


Cheers
Vlk
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: .: Mac :. on December 30, 2006, 06:33:36 PM
thanks for clearing that up. Core 2 is great (now I really see why Apple Ditched The PowerPC architecture)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: RejZoR on December 30, 2006, 11:39:36 PM
Vlk, you mentioned Armadillo. Does this mean you have a full 1:1 Armadillo unpacker in the works?

EDIT:
WTF!? I downloaded aswbeta.exe, executed it as usual, there is that ding sound and no update dialog at all. And process is not even running. What gives!?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Vlk on December 31, 2006, 12:47:18 AM
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Vlk, you mentioned Armadillo. Does this mean you have a full 1:1 Armadillo unpacker in the works?

Yep, and I think it's almost ready now... (I think)

Quote
WTF!? I downloaded aswbeta.exe, executed it as usual, there is that ding sound and no update dialog at all. And process is not even running. What gives!?


Sorry, should be fixed now...


Cheers
Vlk
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: RejZoR on December 31, 2006, 12:53:34 AM
Oh, goodie, i just restored disk image hehe. Thanks to Gigabytes Xpress Recovery it took only 9 minutes ;D Worked fine now, probably because you fixed it in between lol
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: JacobKlein on December 31, 2006, 07:40:49 AM
Vlk (and Avast support teams):

In regards to my earlier post ( http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=25504.0 ) ... I have tried to use this new beta version on Windows Vista to see if it cleared up the Video Playback error for Transcode360 (Transcode 360)...

If you recall, the error was:
-----
Video Error
Files needed to display video are not installed or not working correctly.  Please restart Windows Media Center or restart the computer.
-----

My setup is:
Windows: Vista RTM - Ultimate
UAC: On
avast!: v4.7.925 Beta
Transcode360: v1.6.1 Beta (for Windows Vista)

Results:
Still fails.  Even using the new version of avast!, I still get that error.  I have not tried just disabling the realtime virus protection, but will do that next.

The Transcode 360 developer says that this problem is YOURS, since the program works fine when using Windows OneCare on Vista.  I tend to agree too, because if I uninstall avast! and restart my pc, the program works flawlessly.  Nevertheless, I'm keeping pressure on him to keep trying to find a solution.

At the same time, I need your help to find the real root cause of this issue.

Kind regards,
  Jacob W. Klein
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Vlk on December 31, 2006, 10:12:36 AM
Jacob, please let's move back to the original thread. Does the problem reoccur even with Standard Shield paused and/or stopped?

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: jamesvaul on December 31, 2006, 10:28:56 AM
Downloaded aswbeta.exe, but the file size is only 37.6 KB (38528 byte) ???
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: XMAS on December 31, 2006, 10:41:59 AM
Downloaded aswbeta.exe, but the file size is only 37.6 KB (38528 byte) ???
After downloading the file you need to run it, so the update process can begin ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: jamesvaul on December 31, 2006, 10:48:42 AM
After downloading the file you need to run it, so the update process can begin ;)

Is it so small? 37KB ?  ???
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: XMAS on December 31, 2006, 10:57:44 AM
Is it so small? 37KB ?  ???
Yes, the file is that big. Just after downloading it, run the file and follow the instructions ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: jamesvaul on December 31, 2006, 11:15:08 AM
When I clicked on the first exe my user has been automatically logged off and windows rebooted  :o why? bug?
After the avast 4.7.925 installation, the KPF4 GUI crashed and I've seen a red avast pop-up message!  :'(
After the reboot it seems to work fine.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on December 31, 2006, 02:17:21 PM
When I clicked on the first exe
Which exe?

After the avast 4.7.925 installation, the KPF4 GUI crashed and I've seen a red avast pop-up message!  :'(
Do you mean after booting?

After the reboot it seems to work fine.
Does the problem continues or it's solved?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Bluesman on December 31, 2006, 03:36:38 PM
Just some input from a swedish user :)

The beta is really stable here, no problem at all! The scanning is litte faster then before, and my computer boots up little faster then before...so i'm happy with this release ;)

Keep up the good work!

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: joooo on December 31, 2006, 03:48:55 PM
Happy New Year for All!!!
Bye Old Year,Welcome New Year!!!

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: RejZoR on December 31, 2006, 06:10:38 PM
Found a small glitch in the About dialog...

(http://shrani.si/files/aboutglitcq7on.png)

I think that "Build" should say "Dec2006" instead "Oct2006"...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: njoys1life on January 01, 2007, 12:43:51 AM
     Beta working great here, no glitches yet, pc is even booting a little faster, Thanks Alwil Team ;D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Maeng on January 01, 2007, 04:05:59 AM
The 4.7.925 beta has been working greatly on my machine, I feel avast! is now a bit lighter than ever.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: essexboy on January 01, 2007, 11:52:45 AM
Working well on an AMD 64 Dual core, only a small difference in scan time, probably in the order of 10%
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: jamesvaul on January 01, 2007, 02:31:08 PM
When I clicked on the first exe
Which exe?

After the avast 4.7.925 installation, the KPF4 GUI crashed and I've seen a red avast pop-up message!  :'(
Do you mean after booting?

After the reboot it seems to work fine.
Does the problem continues or it's solved?

I downloaded aswbeta.exe and executed it, then my user has been forced logged off (why?) and system rebooted (why?), then I executed aswbeta.exe again and the download/installation finally begun, after installation is finished the KPF4 GUI is crashed with an error and a red avast! pop-up has appeared
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 01, 2007, 02:40:12 PM
I downloaded aswbeta.exe and executed it, then my user has been forced logged off (why?) and system rebooted (why?), then I executed aswbeta.exe again and the download/installation finally begun, after installation is finished the KPF4 GUI is crashed with an error and a red avast! pop-up has appeared
Please, post the contents of the log files:

C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\DATA\log\Setup.log
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\Setup\setup.log
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: jamesvaul on January 01, 2007, 03:05:02 PM
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Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 01, 2007, 03:15:54 PM
The message exceeds the maximum allowed length (10000 characters).   :'(
So I can't post it
Post the last 100 lines of each file...  ::)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: jamesvaul on January 01, 2007, 04:43:47 PM
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Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 01, 2007, 06:02:29 PM
.

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 ??? ::) ??? ::)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: uilop on January 01, 2007, 07:48:57 PM
This new version causes a delay when my system starts. It "hangs" 10-15 seconds (no provider is loaded). After that 4 providers are loaded. Then the screen becomes black for a second and in the end 6 providers are loaded (as I want them  ;) )
The latest stable version didn't have this problem!

My System:
Intel Pentium 4 1.8 GHz
512 MB RAM
Windows XP SP2 (all updates)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 01, 2007, 08:15:03 PM
This new version causes a delay when my system starts. It "hangs" 10-15 seconds (no provider is loaded).
I confirm this behavior here too... It hangs before avast is running.

The latest stable version didn't have this problem!
Yes, the latest version load (seems to load) faster.

Edited:
After that 4 providers are loaded. Then the screen becomes black for a second and in the end 6 providers are loaded (as I want them  ;) )
I can't confirm this part... sorry, for me, all avast protection is 'hanged' for some seconds, not that much... but all providers, not for then the others.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Vlk on January 01, 2007, 08:28:46 PM
You mean you see 4 providers running - or 4 providers total? (If any case, which 4 are the "active" - and which are not?)

Also, what does it mean "screen becomes black", exactly? Like the whole monitor turns off?

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Hannu on January 01, 2007, 09:17:26 PM
Found a small glitch in the About dialog...

I think that "Build" should say "Dec2006" instead "Oct2006"...

I noticed that also  ;)


EDIT:
WTF!? I downloaded aswbeta.exe, executed it as usual, there is that ding sound and no update dialog at all. And process is not even running. What gives!?

Maybe your update progress is in silent mode?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: joooo on January 01, 2007, 11:05:01 PM
Helo for all.   
Which will be the other improvements that this version will have?
It has some forecast of launching?
Thanks.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: uilop on January 01, 2007, 11:34:36 PM
@ Vlk

Yes, only 4 providers are active (and I don't know which). But when it "hangs" no provider is running and the "red circle" is visible.

And it's really like the whole monitor turns off (but only for a second)

Very strange behavior  ???
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 02, 2007, 12:02:38 AM
Which will be the other improvements that this version will have?
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=25697.msg209761#msg209761
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Vlk on January 02, 2007, 12:31:57 AM
Quote
Yes, only 4 providers are active (and I don't know which). But when it "hangs" no provider is running and the "red circle" is visible.

I'm confused. So is it four or zero? (When there's four, there's no red circle on the tray icon, right?)
Also, the number (4) is deduced from what the tooltip on the tray icon says?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: uilop on January 02, 2007, 03:39:48 PM
Yes, the number (4) is deduced from what the tooltip on the tray icon says!

The happenings again:
1. No provider is active and the red circle is visible. At that time the system "hangs" for 10-15 seconds.
2. After that the tooltip says "4 providers active" and my monitor seems to turn off for a second.
3. Now 6 providers are active and everything's working fine.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: housi on January 02, 2007, 04:34:04 PM
Hi
I've no problems with the new beta, all 7 providers are working.
Regards
housi  :)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Pabro66 on January 03, 2007, 11:52:40 AM
Hi,
I am having problems installing the Beta.

This is the setup log:
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   general   Started: 03.01.2007, 11:44:17
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   general   Running setup_av_pro-37c (892)
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   system   Operating system: Windows Vista ver 6.0, build 6000, sp 0.0
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   system   Computer WinName: PAOLO-BROGELLI
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   system   Windows Net User: PAOLO-BROGELLI\00246651
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   general   Cmdline: /sfx /sfxstorage "C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Temp\_av_sfx.tm~a01608"  /srcpath "C:\Users\user\Desktop"
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   general   DldSrc set to sfx
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   general   Old version: 37c (892)
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   general   LockInstance failed: 0x2000000A
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   package   Transferred files: 0
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   package   Transferred bytes: 0
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   package   Transfer time: 0 ms
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   file   NeedReboot=false
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   general   Return code: 0x2000000A [Another instance of setup is already running. Please wait until it finishes and then try to run it again.]
03.01.2007   11:44:17.000   1167821057   general   Stopped: 03.01.2007, 11:44:17


PLS HELP :(

Paolo Brogelli
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: YLAP on January 03, 2007, 03:48:30 PM
This time a bit later but I'm on BETA too now. I can say, what the full system scan (standart sensivity with archivces on) is improved even with my old Duron. This time it was ~ 30 minutes instead of 40  ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: yankee on January 03, 2007, 04:56:37 PM
Is this BETA available in different languages or only English ??
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 03, 2007, 05:37:39 PM
Another instance of setup is already running
Try booting and start only once (single click) over the installer.
It seems that the previous instance hanged.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Hannu on January 03, 2007, 05:52:40 PM
Some boring info - my scanning times with 4.7.925 beta:

Scan started 3.1.2007 15:22:11
Virus definition file: 0666-1, 31.12.2006
scanned files / archives: 247050/4454
16,5 GB
infected files: 0  ;D
Task finished: 3.1.2007 16:45:09
Total time taken: 1 hours, 22 minutes, 58 seconds

My hard drive is Maxtor 6E040L0 (40 GB) and I had scanning of archived files enabled.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: RejZoR on January 03, 2007, 11:22:27 PM
No problems so far apart from that very tiny glitch i've noticed in About dialog.
So are Armadillo and Obsidium unpackers coming with some next beta update or next actual update? I'm assuming the second though i like to be surprised ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Jem on January 04, 2007, 12:14:41 AM
Major problem with the Beta here. Running a 'Thorough' scan - picks up a Keylogger app that is used for monitoring kids on PC's here, as the 'current' / release version of Avast does. With the Beta though the 'Virus Found' dialogue hangs. It's not possible to choose any action at all - moving the mouse over the window gives me the hourglass, and I had no choice but to use Task Manager to kill Avast. Back to the release version which seems to work fine. Any ideas / thoughts...???
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Vlk on January 04, 2007, 12:21:48 AM
Jem, which OS are you using... And was the virus dialog displayed while doing an on-demand scan, or by the on-access scanner?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Jem on January 04, 2007, 12:23:39 AM
On Demand scan - Thorough with Test Archives. XP SP2...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Jem on January 04, 2007, 12:29:28 AM
Hmmm...I confused myself. I choose to scan from the simple user interface if that's what you mean by 'On Demand'...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Jem on January 04, 2007, 12:36:40 AM
More....if I choose to scan the directory that holds the Keylogger installation executable from the SUI, it works fine in that I get the Virus Found dialogue, and I can choose an action. The problem appears to be only if it's been sitting there scanning the entire machine, which it was, and then it finds the file and I get the hang...

If it's relevant, the app is on the D drive (2 NTFS volumes here)...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 04, 2007, 01:12:24 AM
The problem appears to be only if it's been sitting there scanning the entire machine, which it was, and then it finds the file and I get the hang...
For the Standard Shield provider (on-access scanning):
Left click the 'a' blue icon, click on the provider icon at left and then Customize.
Go to Advanced tab and click on Add button...

For the other providers (on-demmand scanning such as the screen-saver or the Simple User Interface):
Right click the 'a' blue icon, click Program Settings.
Go to Exclusions tab and click on Add button...

You can use wildcards like * and ?.
But be carefull, you should 'exclude' that many files that let your system in danger.

Hmmm...I confused myself. I choose to scan from the simple user interface if that's what you mean by 'On Demand'...
Yes, this is on-demand scanning. The opposite, on-access scanning, is done by Standard Shield provider, the resident guard of avast.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: DavidR on January 04, 2007, 01:27:06 AM
Hmmm...I confused myself. I choose to scan from the simple user interface if that's what you mean by 'On Demand'...

That is on-demand, you initiated the scan as opposed to on-access, when something access a file avast scans it automatically (depending on standard shield settings).

Key loggers can be used for evil and good, it is difficult for an AV to determine which. You may want to consider proactive action rather than find out after they have done it by using a key logger. There are many parental controls out there this is just one. Naomi Parental Control software (freeware) http://www.radiance.m6.net/
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Go Pack Go on January 04, 2007, 04:18:59 AM
So what have those who tested the new avast! found about the startup time and the system resources, or there any noticable changes?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: YLAP on January 04, 2007, 08:48:00 AM
I can't say there is very noticeable change at startup, but yes - my pc seems to be ready for work a bit faster (at HIGH resident protection level)  ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Jem on January 04, 2007, 09:39:58 AM
Thanks for all the replies. I'm running the scan as I write so too early to say if that's the only scanning problem I have (I'll report back). If the work around works, then fine, but I'm curious as to why the hang occurs. Bear in mind that when I scan the offending file directly, by using the context menu scan or by selecting the folder specifically in the scan interface, the hang does not occur, so why does it only happen when it 'reaches' that file after scanning the rest of the machine? I can't help feeling that this is a more general scanning 'issue', perhaps related to other 'hang scenarios' that others have reported in this forum, and not specifically to do with the Keylogger app itself...??...let me know your thoughts on that.

Other than that, I have some questions which I'd appreciate some views on to help me decide whether I should use this free product rather than renew my NOD32 licence for another year:

1) Why is there no scanning available for Azureus in P2P?
2) What level of risk would you associate with script scanning? As far as I can see that is the only significant difference between the free version and the paid version. As yet I'm not convinced that is worth paying the licence fee for - on it's own. Am I missing something?

I am a home user, 3 machines on a very secure wireless network with the principal machine (this one) hard wired to the router (firewalled). I run a fast (8Mbps) broadband connection and all machines use XP / SP2 with IE7. I additionally use Javacools SpywareBlaster and Spybot S&D for browser 'innoculation' against downloadable 'nasties' and I clean the machine of all applets, temp files, cookies etc etc on startup using CCleaner. Using the default IE7 security settings, is script blocking (or the lack of it) a significant risk? I should add that the users here are me (savvy), my wife (never goes anywhere she shouldn't!!), my teenage daughter (clicks on any link that anyone sends her...!!) and my 11 year old daughter who just sends her mates emails and plays simple games.

BTW, thanks for the link above relating to parental controls - I'll check that out.

Great forum...

Cheers,
Jeremy
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 04, 2007, 12:42:06 PM
I scan the offending file directly, by using the context menu scan or by selecting the folder specifically in the scan interface, the hang does not occur, so why does it only happen when it 'reaches' that file after scanning the rest of the machine? I can't help feeling that this is a more general scanning 'issue', perhaps related to other 'hang scenarios' that others have reported in this forum, and not specifically to do with the Keylogger app itself...??...let me know your thoughts on that.
It is strange indeed... the Windows Explorer extension scanner will scan in deepest mode...  ::)

1) Why is there no scanning available for Azureus in P2P?
I'm not sure, but maybe Azureus use a different transference protocol that cannot be handled by avast.
Anyway, the Standard Shield will scan the downloaded files.

2) As far as I can see that is the only significant difference between the free version and the paid version. As yet I'm not convinced that is worth paying the licence fee for - on it's own. Am I missing something?
Other differences are the scheduling and the automated actions features, Enhanced Interface, push updates, etc.

Using the default IE7 security settings, is script blocking (or the lack of it) a significant risk?
I think yes... Script blocker of Firefox will give you more control and safety.

My teenage daughter (clicks on any link that anyone sends her...!!)
That's your main concern... for these situations, script scanning could be very good.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: por100pre1 on January 04, 2007, 10:22:43 PM
Everything working fine here. The beta is faster in my old machine running Win XP SP2.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: geminilion on January 05, 2007, 04:41:19 PM
 Hi all the world!, I'm a new member of this community, i'm writing from Italy and i'm not very expert to use of !avast; My version is 4.7, Home Edition -free- VPS file just to 3 january (file 0701-0). I bought my first pc  in june 2005, now I have xp home edition (licensed) SP2. Last year my antivirus was McAfee, but i spent 50 Euro for it... and i think it is not very good for international community that must use pc for to go their ideas in all world.  You think i'm preparate to use this new beta version? My !Avast was downloaded in 15 december 2006...What do you think? I'm terrorised to make very confusion in my programms and in my mind....  ???geminilion@gmail.com
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 05, 2007, 09:40:46 PM
You think i'm preparate to use this new beta version?
The beta is very stable. It's working fine.
But you'll need to install the last stable version and then update to beta.
There is not a beta 'setup' file to install it from the beggining.

My !Avast was downloaded in 15 december 2006...What do you think? I'm terrorised to make very confusion in my programms and in my mind.... 
Use the downloaded file to install, then download the file Vlk posted in the first post of this thread and update to beta.

Oh, remove your email from forum if you don't like spam in your mailbox!

Congratulations for the last World Cup  ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: joooo on January 05, 2007, 11:31:09 PM
Great this version beta 4.7 925.
It's working very fine and is speed.
Congratulations!!!!!!
Thanks.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: bob3160 on January 06, 2007, 02:51:09 AM
geminilion,
Welcome to the forum.
Unless you like a lot of SPAM, I suggest that you remove your scannable e-mail address from your post.
Just a bit of friendly advice.  :)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: bob3160 on January 06, 2007, 03:03:14 AM
Oh, goodie, i just restored disk image hehe. Thanks to Gigabytes Xpress Recovery it took only 9 minutes ;D Worked fine now, probably because you fixed it in between lol
Sorry for a quick off-topic question
RejZoR, I have a Gigabyte MB can u give me a quick rundown on the Xpress Recovery function. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: YLAP on January 06, 2007, 03:50:58 PM
This time a bit later but I'm on BETA too now. I can say, what the full system scan (standart sensitivity with archives on) is improved even with my old Duron. This time it was ~ 30 minutes instead of 40  ;)

Standart scan + archives: 18.8 GB; 32 minutes. Not bad, as it 10 minutes faster than with older version  ;) PS. I should add that this BETA is very stable, I can't find anything bad  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: WuLFe on January 07, 2007, 02:39:24 AM
Hmmm... The beta is working fine, yes, and a tad bit faster too..

but the bad news is, i think there's something wrong with the password protection coz i cant seem to get it to work! a red message box would appear telling me that

"avast!: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process"

one more thing that bothers me, is i think there's something wrong with the Web Shield as well.. it's got to do with the way its handling packers.. before, in 4.7.892, it always caught the baddies while i was testing it in the web.. now, it couldn't detect the double-packed eicar test file.. but it caught the single-packed eicar test file..

any comments? have you also experienced these? or have i installed it incorrectly?

the other providers seem to be working as well as before, only faster..
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: DavidR on January 07, 2007, 03:02:55 AM
Windows can protect some files that are in use, you don't say what the file name or locations is ?

The eicar test has certain constraints on how it is used, I don't know if multi packers falls into that category. You also don't say what packers have been used ?
Is that from the eicar test site or something cobbled up elsewhere ?

However, something that has used multi packers also has to unpack it before it would effectively be harmful (in the case of a real virus), so the risk element is low files that are unpacked become newly created and as such would be scanned by standard shield, if it got past the web shield.

It would also depend on your web shield settings as it may not scan all files.

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: WuLFe on January 07, 2007, 07:31:06 AM
its the eicar test from their site, itself... i was testing if Web Shield would block the download, but apparently it did not.. :-\

its a double-packed ZIP archive, according to eicar's site... my Web shield is set to High setting already, with All Packers checked.. the weird thing is that the Explorer extension could detect it, that is if i downloaded it and scanned it..  :-\

how about the password problem? do you experience it too?

thanks
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: DavidR on January 07, 2007, 02:50:35 PM
I don't see anywhere in the web shield that you can tick for all packers ?
However, what was the URL path, if it began with https: then avast doesn't monitor secure encrypted traffic, it can't.

Password, sorry I don't know what your problem is
Quote from: WuLFe
but the bad news is, i think there's something wrong with the password protection coz i cant seem to get it to work! a red message box would appear telling me that

"avast!: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process"

 avast doesn't use passwords in updating I assume this is what you are talking about (?) and your error message mentions nothing about passwords but a file in use by another process. I doubt this is beta bug related issue or all or many of us who are using the beta would be experiencing it.

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: WuLFe on January 07, 2007, 03:36:51 PM
sorry if i've confused you, somewhat with the "password" prob i'm having..

what i meant was the password you could set to protect your settings for avast!..

its not working at all for me, and i don't know why...

and with the tick with the "All packers", i could access it coz i'm using the pro version

and i'm pretty sure that the the port is HTTP, coz i'm using a firewall.. hmmmm..

i guess i'll have to tweak around with the avast4.ini file...

thanks for the reply David  :)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: WuLFe on January 07, 2007, 03:41:31 PM
hey! i got it working now david!  ;D the "packers" problem i mean... tweaked some rules in my firewall and the web scanner's behavior and its working perfectly now!

thanks :D

now my only problem with the beta is the password thing...

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: DavidR on January 07, 2007, 04:15:39 PM
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and with the tick with the "All packers", i could access it coz i'm using the pro version
Ahh that would be why I can't see it I assumed you were using Home since you didn't mention what version you had.

I don't use the password protection of settings as 1) I'm the only user, 2) if I have a problem like that I would just install my last hard disk image.

The only thing I've heard about a problem was someone forgetting it and having to uninstall, boot, run the uninstall utility, boot and reinstall so they could reset it. This would appear to be different to your problem, which you could expand on.

Since the Red box doesn't relate to password protection of settings, do you still have a problem with updates or this red box ?

Both of the above issues I doubt are directly related to the beta version, so it would probably be better to create a new topic for it so as not to clutter up the beta topic.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: joooo on January 07, 2007, 10:12:08 PM
When will be launched the version 4.8? It has some date?
Version 4.7.925 is very steady.
It forgives me the repetition.
A suggestion: I know that already I suggested some times, but would be good if the Internet protection was faster in the sweepings, therefore the times the opening of pages are slow when the protection is active.
Congratulations for all.
Thanks.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: calcu007 on January 07, 2007, 11:09:11 PM
JOOOOO is it too early to know when 4.8 will be released. About WebShield you will notice a little slowdown if you have a dial up connection
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: joooo on January 07, 2007, 11:25:10 PM
JOOOOO is it too early to know when 4.8 will be released. About WebShield you will notice a little slowdown if you have a dial up connection

It's correct.
Thanks.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: DavidR on January 08, 2007, 01:10:32 AM
JOOOOO is it too early to know when 4.8 will be released. About WebShield you will notice a little slowdown if you have a dial up connection

I'm on dial-up and I see no noticeable slowdown when using web shield.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: joooo on January 08, 2007, 11:23:44 PM
Testing the new version 4.7 (932).
Thanks.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Bluesman on January 09, 2007, 12:37:06 AM
Testing the new version 4.7 (932).
Just installed .932 here, the update run without problems, and the version seems stable. Will play with it more tomorrow.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: oldman on January 09, 2007, 02:11:35 AM
I don't see anywhere in the web shield that you can tick for all packers ?

There's a all packers in web shield?? Is this new in the beta?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 09, 2007, 02:40:14 AM
There's a all packers in web shield?? Is this new in the beta?
Where? In the Pro version?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: avvidro on January 09, 2007, 02:42:03 AM
Congratulations to the developers for the effort to turn Avast (even :D) lighter on resources and speed, I think this objective should be an obsession for all software engineers, specially for the Windows Vista ones :P.

But why not put the download link in the Download/Beta software session in the Avast site? There, currently there is a message saying "(sorry, there are no beta programs at this time)".  I looked for the beta at the forum first, but, for who visits the site...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: oldman on January 09, 2007, 02:42:43 AM
There's a all packers in web shield?? Is this new in the beta?
Where? In the Pro version?

That was my question....where??  ???
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.925)
Post by: Lisandro on January 09, 2007, 03:02:40 AM
That was my question....where??  ???
I don't remember if it was not there before...
Anyway, some archive types are new  8)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: oldman on January 09, 2007, 03:19:10 AM
Ok Thanks. I was looking at the on access page, didn't see it , so thought maybe something new.

It's always been in resident tasks. Thought home had it also.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: alanrf on January 09, 2007, 11:07:56 AM
Quote
Send three and fourpence we're going to a dance

Don't worry about it ... I am fairly sure DavidR will understand
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: YLAP on January 09, 2007, 09:30:16 PM
What changes this time and what to test?  ;D (925>932)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: joooo on January 09, 2007, 09:37:17 PM
I am testing version 932, no problems.
It is estable.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: XMAS on January 09, 2007, 10:33:35 PM
What changes this time and what to test?  ;D (925>932)
Update: the build number is now 4.7.932. The 932 build brings a couple of fixes (especially on Vista) as well as a new language module - Catalan.
:)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: hipgnosis on January 10, 2007, 03:30:30 AM
I installed the previous beta (925) and now this one (932) and, on my pc anyway, the memory usage is higher than with the last official release.  The usage for the official release was:

ashDisp.exe - 2720
ashMai.exe - 1628
ashServ.exe - 6500
ashWebSv.exe - 15624
ashUpdSv.exe - 208
 TOTAL............26680

My usage with 925 was:

ashDisp.exe - 1716
ashMai.exe - 2608
ashServ.exe - 12840
ashWebSv.exe - 17964
ashUpdSv.exe - 252
  TOTAL...........35380

After 15 minutes with 932 utilization is:

ashDisp.exe - 4604
ashMai.exe - 2280
ashServ.exe - 14180
ashWebSv.exe - 5912
ashUpdSv.exe - 228
  TOTAL...........27204

It is looking better right now but still not as good as the last official release.  I'll leave it running overnight and check again tomorrow.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 10, 2007, 10:02:57 AM
I'd put it this way - because of internal changes, the real memory usage is significantly lower than in the previous official release (I can really assure you of that).
The numbers you see in Task Manager have little connection to reality (i.e. they don't reflect the real memory usage and there's no point in comparing them).
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Arup on January 10, 2007, 11:26:26 AM
Excellent, flies on my Core2Duo under XP64.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 10, 2007, 11:51:31 AM
I'd put it this way - because of internal changes, the real memory usage is significantly lower than in the previous official release (I can really assure you of that).
The numbers you see in Task Manager have little connection to reality (i.e. they don't reflect the real memory usage and there's no point in comparing them).
For correct memory usage you have to enable VM Size column in Processes list (Task Manager).
Open Task manager,select Processes tab,click View and select Select Columns... in dropdown menu.
New column will appear next to the Memory usage one. Now check the VM Size column and tell us again how much is it using.
Vlk mentioned this some time ago in (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=6494.msg50215#msg50215) to explain the diference in memory usage and VM size.
In most cases, both values are very different.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 10, 2007, 12:04:00 PM
VM Size column is slightly better, but not even this would show you that the memory consumption has lowered... I'm afraid you'll have to believe us ;)
Users with older machines (i.e. with less RAM installed) may notice that the machine is more responsive with the new version (less swapping).
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: por100pre1 on January 10, 2007, 08:52:53 PM

I installed the previous beta (925) and now this one (932) and, on my pc anyway, the memory usage is higher than with the last official release.


Same thing here, but machine seems to work faster.


VM Size column is slightly better, but not even this would show you that the memory consumption has lowered... I'm afraid you'll have to believe us ;)


But I'm not sure about believing it.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: joooo on January 10, 2007, 09:56:50 PM
This version 932 is very stable, no problems in my computer, working very good.
Thanks.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: DavidR on January 10, 2007, 10:01:21 PM
@ por100pre1
Well if you can't take the word of one of the development team I don't know how you can believe more complex issues. I have rarely worried about RAM use from the days I left win9X behind, XP is much better at managing it and RAM is there to be used. avast is far lighter than many other AVs which is shown in the fact that it still supports and can run on the likes of win95 with low RAM installed and that is much more troubled with system resources.

I have been using avast for quite some time now and I see the developments and improvements and on each and every program update the team have tried to further tweak and optimise the program, reducing RAM use and speeding boot and scans, etc. That is their goal and unfortunately windows Task Manager really isn't that good at displaying RAM used you only have to look at the number of memory columns you can look at. There are probably other more accurate RAM use tools out there.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Bluesman on January 10, 2007, 11:56:51 PM
But I'm not sure about believing it.

Ok, but I am sure we all can sleep well all nights anyway :)

All of us don't need to be a believer, but I am ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: avvidro on January 11, 2007, 03:00:21 AM
Up to date beta is 4.7.932. After testmonies of all being ok, please let me ask:

1) What 9xx number do you, Igor or Vlk, expect to be the new Official version?
2) What are your plans for 4.8 version?

Thanks.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: jadinolf on January 11, 2007, 03:24:05 AM
Well, I couldn't resist installing the beta.

There were three required reboots but it's working.

I'll play with it tomorrow.

Thanks.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 11, 2007, 09:51:18 AM
1) What 9xx number do you, Igor or Vlk, expect to be the new Official version?
2) What are your plans for 4.8 version?

No particular number is set to be the final release - but it should be out quite soon, so I'd say something < 940.
Right now, there are no plans for 4.8... I mean, maybe there will be no 4.8 and we'll jump directly to 5.0; hard to say right now.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: YLAP on January 11, 2007, 10:14:17 AM
Right now, there are no plans for 4.8... I mean, maybe there will be no 4.8 and we'll jump directly to 5.0; hard to say right now.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: mauserme on January 12, 2007, 12:57:47 AM
Right now, there are no plans for 4.8... I mean, maybe there will be no 4.8 and we'll jump directly to 5.0; hard to say right now.
Any plans for rootkit detection in 5.0?  We need it ....
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: cvsa on January 12, 2007, 06:29:41 PM
under win98, i tried to install beta, as i always do, and i couldn't because the update program froze..... i had to manually kill the avast01 process.... :P

since then, i can't update mit viral definition anymore, the avast01 process runs when i boot  and  don't know what to do for it not to begin at windows start ..... i just can't update (even normal updates...) please help !
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 12, 2007, 08:28:06 PM
under win98, i tried to install beta, as i always do, and i couldn't because the update program froze..... i had to manually kill the avast01 process.... :P
Why don't you try to run the beta again, finish the installation, boot.
If that does not work, maybe just deleting the servers.def file, kill any avast#.setup process running and start the update. You'll be 'downgraded' to the non-beta version (I hope so).
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: cvsa on January 12, 2007, 08:42:44 PM
running the beta again doesn't work..... i will try the server.def as you say...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 12, 2007, 08:46:56 PM
You'll be 'downgraded' to the non-beta version (I hope so).
If not... better will be uninstalling, booting, installing again...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 12, 2007, 08:50:06 PM
Maybe the servers are a little too busy right now - as the new update is being uploaded.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.936)
Post by: DavidR on January 13, 2007, 12:42:49 AM
Is this still a beta update or is the a general release ?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 13, 2007, 12:47:48 AM
It's the official update, i.e. not beta anymore.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: DavidR on January 13, 2007, 01:02:10 AM
Thanks, dial-up has just finished chugging through the update ;D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: RejZoR on January 13, 2007, 01:20:33 AM
When i want to set password via trey icon i get this each and every time. Used to work fine before. Donno how i missed this one during beta testing. Guess i wasn't paying much attention to it during that period...

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4638/nopassbughc2.png)

Why this happens and how to fix it (only via program update?)?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: dadkins_1 on January 13, 2007, 01:45:51 AM
New and Improved! 4.7.936!
Painless update via the tray icon!

Thanks Alwil Team!  8)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: jason84044 on January 13, 2007, 02:49:13 AM
I just autodownloaded the update to Avast.  I currently have version 4.7.936 installed on a Vista x64 host with 2 gig ram and AMD 2.6 x2.  After reboot none of programs such as IE, Quicken, Outlook, windows explorer, cmd prompt will start.  Keep receiving error:  Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file.  You may not have the appropriate permissions to access the item.  If I stop the Standard Shield Provider everything works.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: mouniernetwork on January 13, 2007, 03:02:01 AM
I am also getting a password problem, could Alwil try to fix this ??

Thanks

Al968
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: hipgnosis on January 13, 2007, 04:09:27 AM
I'm getting the password error also.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Komm on January 13, 2007, 04:14:52 AM
under win98, i tried to install beta, as i always do, and i couldn't because the update program froze..... i had to manually kill the avast01 process.... :P

since then, i can't update mit viral definition anymore, the avast01 process runs when i boot  and  don't know what to do for it not to begin at windows start ..... i just can't update (even normal updates...) please help !

Same here. Trouble with Win98. CPU remains at 100 % with normal actualization. Even happened with betas 4.7.925 and 4.7.932 using 4.7.892 version. Couldn´t install the betas before too.

Installing new 4.7.936 after uninstall and reboot old version... Freeze in VPS actualization. CPU use at 100% again. Could not complete installation. Uninstalled it.

Installed new 4.7.936 in security mode. Installation complete, reboot. Tried manually actualize avast!, again VPS module download with CPU use at 100%. The actualization takes AGES to complete, i´m making it now. I will post when (i hope) it finishes.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Vlk on January 13, 2007, 08:02:30 AM
We're working on this guys. Thanks so far.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: cvsa on January 13, 2007, 10:47:05 AM
under win98, i tried to install beta, as i always do, and i couldn't because the update program froze..... i had to manually kill the avast01 process.... :P

since then, i can't update mit viral definition anymore, the avast01 process runs when i boot  and  don't know what to do for it not to begin at windows start ..... i just can't update (even normal updates...) please help !

Same here. Trouble with Win98. CPU remains at 100 % with normal actualization. Even happened with betas 4.7.925 and 4.7.932 using 4.7.892 version. Couldn´t install the betas before too.

Installing new 4.7.936 after uninstall and reboot old version... Freeze in VPS actualization. CPU use at 100% again. Could not complete installation. Uninstalled it.

Installed new 4.7.936 in security mode. Installation complete, reboot. Tried manually actualize avast!, again VPS module download with CPU use at 100%. The actualization takes AGES to complete, i´m making it now. I will post when (i hope) it finishes.

i confirm, it's not frozen : it's sooooo slooooooww !!!! i saw it by using "avast update" in the "add/remove" section of windows..... it takes ages to dowload the files   (and finally never ends) ..... can you try to fix it ? thx ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: cvsa on January 13, 2007, 11:43:38 AM
This is an extract from my setup.log file :

10:30:24 min/gen  Started: 13.01.2007, 10:30:24
10:30:24 min/gen  Running setup_av_pro-3a4 (932)
10:30:24 nrm/sys  Operating system: Windows98 ver 4.10, build 2222 [ A ]
10:30:24 vrb/sys  Computer WinName: ********
10:30:24 min/sys  Windows Net User: ************
10:30:24 min/gen  Cmdline: /uninstwiz 
10:30:24 min/gen  Old version: 37c (892)
10:30:24 nrm/gen  SGW32P::CheckIfInstalled set m_bAlreadyInstalled to 1
10:30:24 vrb/gen  DldSrc set to inet
10:30:24 vrb/sys  Computer DnsName: **********
10:30:24 vrb/sys  Computer Ip Addr: ***********
10:30:24 nrm/int  SYNCER: Type: use IE settings
10:30:24 nrm/int  SYNCER: Auth: another authentication, use WinInet
10:30:24 vrb/pkg  Part prg_av_pro-3a8 was guessed as installed
10:30:24 vrb/pkg  Part vps-70201 is installed
10:30:24 vrb/pkg  Part news-4b is installed
10:30:24 vrb/pkg  Part setup_av_pro-3a8 was guessed as installed
10:30:24 min/gen  Old version: 37c (892)
10:30:27 vrb/fil  SetExistingFilesBitmap: 937->131->55
10:30:27 min/gen  GUID: d9520960-96cb-11d9-8ac0-0010a70d52fa
10:30:27 nrm/gen  Server definition(s) loaded for 'main': 85 (maintenance:0)
10:30:27 nrm/gen  SelectCurrent: selected server 'Download74 AVAST server' from 'main'
10:30:27 min/pkg  GetPackages - set proxy for inet
10:30:27 nrm/int  SYNCER: Type: use IE settings
10:30:27 nrm/int  SYNCER: Auth: another authentication, use WinInet
10:30:33 vrb/gen  Operation set to INST_OP_REPAIR
10:30:33 dbg/gen  Entered SetupProcessPro::Do( INST_OP_REPAIR )
10:30:33 dbg/gen  Entered SetupProcessWin32Avast::Do( INST_OP_REPAIR )
10:30:33 dbg/gen  Entered SetupProcessWin32::Do( INST_OP_REPAIR )
10:30:33 dbg/gen  Entered SetupProcess::Do( INST_OP_REPAIR )
10:30:33 dbg/gen  Entered SetupProcessPro::Do( INST_OP_UPDATE_INSTALL_PACKAGES )
10:30:33 dbg/gen  Entered SetupProcessWin32Avast::Do( INST_OP_UPDATE_INSTALL_PACKAGES )
10:30:33 vrb/gen  Entering:UpdateInstallPackages
10:30:33 dbg/gen  progress thread start
10:30:33 dbg/gen  progress start - 1
10:30:44 min/pkg  Load C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\Setup\prod-av_pro.vpu
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  LatestPartInfo: news = news-4b
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  LatestPartInfo: program = prg_av_pro-3a8
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  LatestPartInfo: setup = setup_av_pro-3a8
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  LatestPartInfo: vps = vps-70201
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp413', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp414', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'winsys', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp415', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll804', containing 8 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp416', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll40A', containing 21 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp418', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp419', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll41b', containing 24 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll41d', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll41f', containing 18 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp40b', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp40c', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll43e', containing 9 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp40e', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll81a', containing 17 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll410', containing 25 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll411', containing 27 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll412', containing 17 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_core', containing 9 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll413', containing 25 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll414', containing 12 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll415', containing 24 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll416', containing 24 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'winsysgui', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll418', containing 13 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp402', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp403', containing 1 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll419', containing 24 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp404', containing 10 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp405', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp406', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp407', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp424', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp408', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp409', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll40b', containing 18 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll40c', containing 26 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll40e', containing 24 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp804', containing 10 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'avscan', containing 6 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp40A', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_pro', containing 11 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp41b', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp41d', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_skins', containing 5 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp41f', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll402', containing 15 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll403', containing 1 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll404', containing 8 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp43e', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll405', containing 30 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll406', containing 6 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll407', containing 25 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll408', containing 10 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll424', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp81a', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_dll409', containing 34 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp410', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp411', containing 2 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'av_pro_hlp412', containing 3 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'vpsm', containing 1 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'vps', containing 87 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'news405', containing 1 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'news409', containing 1 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'setif_av_pro', containing 17 subversions
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Loaded pkg info 'setup_av_pro', containing 9 subversions
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  FilterOutExistingFiles: 131 & 55 = 76
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  IsFullOkay: setup_av_pro-3a8.vpu - not okay
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  IsFullOkay: setup_av_pro-3a8.vpu - not okay
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Full of package setup_av_pro was set to 1
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  IsFullOkay: av_pro_core-35c.vpu - not okay
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  SetDownloadBits: av_pro_core setting 1 diffs to process
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  IsFullOkay: av_pro_dll40c-66.vpu - not okay
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  SetDownloadBits: av_pro_dll40c setting 1 diffs to process
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  IsFullOkay: av_pro_hlp40c-166.vpu - not okay
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  IsFullOkay: av_pro_hlp40c-166.vpu - not okay
10:30:44 dbg/pkg  Full of package av_pro_hlp40c was set to 1
10:30:44 vrb/pkg  IsFullOkay: av_pro_pro-219.vpu - not okay
10:30:45 dbg/pkg  SetDownloadBits: av_pro_pro setting 1 diffs to process
10:30:45 vrb/pkg  IsFullOkay: avscan-274.vpu - not okay
10:30:45 dbg/pkg  SetDownloadBits: avscan setting 4 diffs to process
10:30:45 vrb/pkg  ArePartsInstallable: 0
10:30:45 min/pkg  Error processing packages. 0x20000011
10:30:50 dbg/gen  progress end - 0
10:30:50 dbg/gen  progress thread end
10:30:55 nrm/pkg  Transferred files: 0
10:30:55 nrm/pkg  Transferred bytes: 0
10:30:55 nrm/pkg  Transfer time: 0 ms
10:30:55 vrb/fil  NeedReboot=false
10:30:55 min/gen  Return code: 0x20000011 [The package is broken.]
10:30:55 min/gen  Stopped: 13.01.2007, 10:30:55"

hope it could help.... VLK, can you tell me what"s going on ?

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: critterz on January 13, 2007, 03:47:48 PM
i autodownloaded and installed the newest version, and now ie7, nero, and several other programs take at least 90 sec to boot! this occurred upon the reboot right after installing, seems to be an issue only when starting the programs, they seem to run fine once started.

 i am running windows xp sp2. turning off the standard shield doesn't fix it, will try re booting with all the on access providers off.  am i the only one with this prob??
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 13, 2007, 03:54:54 PM
So, even if you stop the whole on-access protection, it doesn't help?
That would be rather strange (if the problem was in avast!)... besides, I think there are quite a few users running XP SP2 & IE7, for example.

Let us know your findings, please. Thanks.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Bluesman on January 13, 2007, 04:03:41 PM
am i the only one with this prob??
I have XP SP2 on my computers (AMD and P4), and also IE7 and Nero, all is working fine here with the latest version. No problem at all with Nero, IE7, and other program I have checked.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: critterz on January 13, 2007, 04:08:45 PM
just tried rebooting with all the providers turned off and still ie7 is taking forever to boot.  this is very frustrating, is there any way to re-install the previous version? (other than going through the process of restoring my drive from a backup image?) the machine was running great till i did this update, i recently did a complete reinstall of windows so there aren't many programs on it.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 13, 2007, 04:26:11 PM
What if you uninstall avast! - does that help?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Rick F on January 13, 2007, 05:07:57 PM
I just updated to the new avast... (4.7.936).  All went well with the update from the tray icon.  This is on my new computer that replaced my old Win98 machine.  It's a Dell Dimension, WinXP Media Ctr - SP2, Intel Duo core, 2.8 ghz. 1 gig ram, 230 gig HDD.

Running a full standard scan (only 10.2 gig files populated) took 9:49 mins (archived files scan disabled).  Full scan with older ver of avast took 10:20 mins, so it is a bit faster.

Way to go Alwil team!  :)

BTW, I use IE-7.  No slowdown seen when launching.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: osy on January 13, 2007, 05:17:02 PM
I also have had major problems with this last update, running Vista x64 Ultimate rtm. The only way I could recover my system was to boot into safe mode and uninstall Avast, after that all was normal.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Rain on January 13, 2007, 05:26:02 PM
I run XP Home w/sp2 and have Avast Pro

The only problem I seem to be having with this last update, (I updated from the tray icon this morning) is that I cant seem to password protect my program. I am getting the same error as the others, though my OS is in a different language, so posting the error here as it is worded would seem redundant or useless... Later today I will probably downgrade back to the old version at least until this issue is resolved. What a huge pain in the backside, yuck!

I do not use IE7, rather I use Firefox...

So far no services, or anything seem to be having any trouble, though some of the scanners took a little longer to activate. (The Avast scanners...) Only fine came online initially, then the two other active ones pop up a few moments later. The 8th scanner is not active as I do not use Outlook...

I use Kerio-Sunbelt firewall, if that is somehow relevant...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: mouniernetwork on January 13, 2007, 05:38:19 PM
Hello,

I've tried stopping all On Acess Protection but I still get the error saying that I can't change the password.

Thanks

Al968
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Vlk on January 13, 2007, 06:09:30 PM
A new update will be released tonight, (hopefully) fixing these three things:

1. on-access password (unable to set)
2. updates on Win9x
3. Vista x64 issues (this is the hardest - the first two items have already been fixed, we're now waiting for this one).

No need to post if you have any of these 3 problems anymore.


Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: cvsa on January 13, 2007, 06:34:25 PM
thanks VLK : you and the alwil team are the best !!!  ;D alwways answering very quickly to our problems !!!

but, a little question  :-[ : how shall we be able to update to the new version if update cannot work ??? running avast setup file on safe mode ?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 13, 2007, 06:46:31 PM
i autodownloaded and installed the newest version, and now ie7, nero, and several other programs take at least 90 sec to boot! this occurred upon the reboot right after installing, seems to be an issue only when starting the programs, they seem to run fine once started.
Just to report no-issues with XP SP2 + IE7 + avast 4.7.936  8)

Vlk, I've seen some issues on Vista... but as you did not tell us, I can't know if they're the same and I should not post anymore...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 13, 2007, 06:59:16 PM
How shall we be able to update to the new version if update cannot work ??? running avast setup file on safe mode ?
Downloading the full setup and running it...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: YLAP on January 13, 2007, 07:04:39 PM
thanks VLK : you and the alwil team are the best !!!  ;D alwways answering very quickly to our problems !!!

That's the reason I'm on avast. ALWIL support is the best - no other AV companies can beat this.  ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: mouniernetwork on January 13, 2007, 07:05:57 PM
Could it be possible that you release the update tonight ??
Because I don't want some of the users disabling the protection(thats why I normally have Password protection.

Thanks

Al968
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: mouniernetwork on January 14, 2007, 12:12:45 AM
Any sign of the update ??
Lot of people seem to be having problem specialy vista64  :(

Thanks

Al968
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: chinga69 on January 14, 2007, 12:14:28 AM
high i am running vista rtm 64 and installed avast update this morning,
  since then i was locked out of the net and some of my system.

after a lot of playing around i have found that i have to customize the standard shield and untick scan executed progs and scan dynamic libraries  to be able to get access back for net and system .


Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: mouniernetwork on January 14, 2007, 01:26:21 AM
Hello,

I have just downloaded 4.7.936 and am sad to say that the password issue was not resolved on my computer  :(
Is there anything I can do to help you troubleshoot and correct the problem ?

thanks

Al968
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 14, 2007, 01:32:26 AM
Not really, I'm afraid.
Sorry, the Vista problem takes longer than expected.
The fixed update will be a new build - and will be marked as such (something like 4.7.939 probably). So, until the build number changes, it's probably useless to download the installer again.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: mouniernetwork on January 14, 2007, 02:54:08 AM
OK, thank you for your dedication to correcting the problem.

Good Luck

Al968
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: FlyBye88 on January 14, 2007, 08:33:52 AM
Not really, I'm afraid.
Sorry, the Vista problem takes longer than expected.
The fixed update will be a new build - and will be marked as such (something like 4.7.939 probably). So, until the build number changes, it's probably useless to download the installer again.


Hi - (Please excuse my lame question - I am v. new to avast-) where can I check to see if the above new build is available *before* I download/install it.  On the main/download pages for the programme I see only the main version number/language displayed but no build numbers? (I looked under "Beta Downloads" but there one only sees that "There is no beta programme at the moment!" Where do the latest builds get put and how can I see which build it is?

Please don`t say I have to update from a previous install - the version I downloaded/installed yesterday had so <almost-> completely wiped out my 64bit Vista RC1 that I deleted it completely to regain access to the function of the OS.

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: oldman on January 14, 2007, 08:57:52 AM
http://avast.com/

Left side, scroll down a bit. Currently it says 4.7.936
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 14, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
Please don`t say I have to update from a previous install - the version I downloaded/installed yesterday had so <almost-> completely wiped out my 64bit Vista RC1 that I deleted it completely to regain access to the function of the OS.
If you wait for the upgrade scheduled for today, you just need to download the new setup.exe file and install it from the scratch.
No need to update from a previous install.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: chadderbox on January 14, 2007, 03:17:14 PM
I would like to say that I am new to Avast, and my first experience with it was installing it on my Vista RTM x64 system.  I have the above mentioned problem.  I can say that I am very impressed with the support offered.  I came to the forum figuring I would find nothing about my problems and here I find that it's being worked on and should have a fix soon.  Very refreshing. 
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 14, 2007, 03:44:26 PM
I can say that I am very impressed with the support offered.
You're welcome...
You'll see you'll never alone here and support is one of the best you can ever find  ;)
Title: clarification please
Post by: Rain on January 14, 2007, 11:37:09 PM
I can't figure out what is going on, so will someone tell me in plain terms if the update has been made, and how one should go about obtaining it. Do I update my program with the program update? Do I reinstal it all from scratch after downloading an instalation file from avast's homepage, or what?

I have Win XP Home w/SP2, so whatever Vista problems or 62 bit problems that are going on, probably do not apply to me, I am just concerned about the password thing primarily, and my system working properlyof course. I do not have the ability to devote the needed time to wade through the forum to piece together answers, so if someone could please give the low-down on Avast Pro here, I would be so grateful.

Thanks...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: mauserme on January 14, 2007, 11:52:28 PM
The current version is 4.7.936 as I type this, but there is talk of another program update in the near future.

If you were trying the beta version you will need to invoke a manual program update to get back in the regular update loop.

If you weren't using the beta version, or if you already invoked a manual update, then future updates will occur as they always have for you (manual or automatic depending on your update settings).

Re installation should not be necessary.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Rain on January 15, 2007, 12:35:07 AM
thanks

:)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 15, 2007, 12:40:56 AM
4.7.938 is already born  8)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: zivilist on January 15, 2007, 01:21:37 AM
@Tech:

The 4.7.938 is not listed on the main page www.avast.com with changelog...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 15, 2007, 01:34:01 AM
The webpage might get updated slightly later than the real files (and I'm not 100% sure if the updated full installers, for example, are already online).
But yes, it should be released about now.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Eddy on January 15, 2007, 01:43:12 AM
Why not mention 4.7.938? Because that is the latest release :-)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: cvsa on January 15, 2007, 10:00:39 AM
where or when can we get this 9.7.938 version ?

i downloaded the full setup file on your site, and it's still the bugged version.... my automatic update desn't work .... :'(
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: sanelson on January 15, 2007, 10:06:13 AM
Avast 4.7.938 still does not work with Vista x64.  Please see my other post here (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=25969.msg212596#msg212596).

Please forgive my double post, but with two threads going on about this, I think it belongs in both of them.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: teardrop on January 15, 2007, 11:01:08 AM
Hello,

I have Windows ME, I think I am having the same problem as everyone else.

When I try to update the virus definitions, the data seems extremely slow coming off the avast! server, then the program tries to download a 4MB file called "av_pro_core-35c.vpu" at a rate of about 49 bytes per minute (I have an 8Mb/s line). This has been happening since 12th January.

I did manage to manually update the virus definitions by downloading the .exe package from this page:

http://www.avast.com/eng/update_avast_4_vps.html

Still having the problem with automatic updates, though.

Thanks,

David
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: cvsa on January 15, 2007, 11:12:07 AM
@alwil team : can we have a link for people with win9x update problem to be able to download the 4.7.938 version.... thanx
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: jleezer on January 15, 2007, 12:03:53 PM
The home page indicates now 4.7.938. So I think you just can download it from the download programs page. I just checked it for the Dutch one and it has the digital signature of today.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: cvsa on January 15, 2007, 02:16:23 PM
thanks ! it works ! :D ;)

- download installer
- uninstall avast
- reboot
- install via installer
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 15, 2007, 02:34:25 PM
It shouldn't be necessary to uninstall avast! - just run the installer and it will offer you to update the existing installation.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: cvsa on January 15, 2007, 02:50:16 PM
It shouldn't be necessary to uninstall avast! - just run the installer and it will offer you to update the existing installation.


sorry igor, but running the installer directly did'nt work for me : it takes ages to install and finally seem to block with cpu 100% :( - I had to uninstall.... maybe i'm the only one....
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: greenhatch on January 15, 2007, 08:33:15 PM
May I ask: why are there still bugs occurring after a beta phase? I'm loathe to update to the latest, latest, latest version yet, .938 is it now?  ::) I'll stick with the stable .892 for a while, thanks :P
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Jem on January 15, 2007, 08:44:51 PM
I have to say - I'm running 938 and I've yet to find anything that I would call a bug. It's running perfectly and updating with no problem. XP Pro SP2.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Forejt on January 15, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
We've released another beta (4.7.941), that should work on Vista x64.

Just run the beta updater as per instructions in Vlk's first post, you can download the updater here: http://files.avast.com/files/beta/aswbeta.exe

Fixed release version will be uploaded soon.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: greenhatch on January 15, 2007, 09:00:53 PM
I have to say - I'm running 938 and I've yet to find anything that I would call a bug. It's running perfectly and updating with no problem. XP Pro SP2.
Haha, now we are up to .941! I'll look back in another week. Have a good one. :)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: DavidR on January 15, 2007, 09:10:00 PM
I have to say - I'm running 938 and I've yet to find anything that I would call a bug. It's running perfectly and updating with no problem. XP Pro SP2.
Haha, now we are up to .941! I'll look back in another week. Have a good one. :)

If you aren't using Vista x64 there really is no need to wait, the .938 build was related to win98 and for some XP users.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: alanrf on January 15, 2007, 09:31:59 PM
David

I suspect that your helpful information may be lost ... it seems that some users can be relied on to always make the same comments at every update. More power to you for trying though.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 15, 2007, 09:33:43 PM
We've released another beta (4.7.941), that should work on Vista x64.
Fixed release version will be uploaded soon.
Is there any change that could be tested in a non-x64 system?
If it isn`t, well there will be no reason to take the beta test for a lot of us...
I`d like to know.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: tri.bassett on January 16, 2007, 12:25:03 AM
I have tried to upgrade from the .936 to the .938 program.  I continued to have the same problems as previously reported (errors starting all programs, ie: task manager, control panel etc).

I have attempted to install the .941 beta.  The installation appears to complete, but About Avast still shows .938.  Perhaps I am doing something wrong. 

I will attempt to uninstall Avast, and install the .941 beta installer tool and report my results

I'm more than happy to help debug this, so if the developers need need additional info (screen shots, etc) please feel free to respond back-channel. 

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: igor on January 16, 2007, 12:41:39 AM
The beta installer is just a tiny tool that turns the "official" release into beta.
So, you'll have to have an "official" release installed first, and then use the beta tool to update it (you can't install the beta from scratch this way).

Regarding the build number of About box - did you reboot after the update was installed?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Forejt on January 16, 2007, 12:48:36 AM
Beta version was cancelled now.
Release update is now uploading to servers, so please wait to update release version to 4.7.942.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: tri.bassett on January 16, 2007, 01:01:25 AM
Igor -

I uninstalled my original installation, then reinstalled .938.  Now, avast won't start.  Everything else seems to work. 

When I double-click the status icon, I get "The AAVM subsystem detected a RPC error". 

Services.msc shows avast! Antivirus set to start automatically, but is not started.  When I attempt to start, I get a dialog that states  "Windows could not start the avast! Antivirus servie on Local Computer.  Error 1068:  The dependency service or group failed to start"

I'll try to update to .941 and report results.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: tri.bassett on January 16, 2007, 01:07:17 AM
I tried to install the update.  Still cannot get avast to start properly.  The about box still shows .938.

I'll wait for the servers to update, and try to upgrade through the program icon.

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: tri.bassett on January 16, 2007, 02:18:20 AM
bingo, bango, boingo we're as happy as can be!!   ;D

I pulled down the .942 update, and all is well with avast on x64!

Task Manager works, control panel fires up, an avast starts normally. 

Great service!  thanks for all the help!   

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: paesan on January 16, 2007, 03:06:43 AM
updated to 942 and all is well with vista 64bit. Thanks.............
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: dadkins_1 on January 16, 2007, 08:04:15 AM
I'm an update junkie, installed 4.7.942 without issue!  8)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Jem on January 16, 2007, 10:39:26 AM
Me too...all is well...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: flaxthejute on January 16, 2007, 10:56:18 PM
Hi guys,

Do we know if the combination of the new version of avast and the forthcoming version of Comodo will play nicely? (more details here http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=24687.0

Flax
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: DavidR on January 16, 2007, 11:04:13 PM
Without a crystal ball there really is no way of knowing that, no one can say how any product with work with a future product. As far as I'm aware the comodo beta version (which should be similar) currently works with avast.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 17, 2007, 01:20:30 AM
Do we know if the combination of the new version of avast and the forthcoming version of Comodo will play nicely? (more details here http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=24687.0
Everything is working fine right now with avast + Comodo  8)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: flaxthejute on January 17, 2007, 01:52:28 AM
Do we know if the combination of the new version of avast and the forthcoming version of Comodo will play nicely? (more details here http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=24687.0
Everything is working fine right now with avast + Comodo  8)

Fine, except you always said that, despite the evidence to the contrary. Here, we have two pcs running both happily (and have always done), and a laptop that had all the same symptoms as the other folk having problems -- to the extent that I had to uninstall the firewall totally. Don't get me wrong here, but I'd rather a developer answered my question.

Flax
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: flaxthejute on January 17, 2007, 01:55:07 AM
Do we know if the combination of the new version of avast and the forthcoming version of Comodo will play nicely? (more details here http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=24687.0
Everything is working fine right now with avast + Comodo  8)

David, I have vague memories of a developer admitting to an inkling of why the problem was occurring, I'm just wondering if that has been resolved. Surely a crystal ball is not needed for that. Sure, as yet undiscovered problems are a different matter...

Flax
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: bob3160 on January 17, 2007, 03:14:37 AM
Quote
Don't get me wrong here, but I'd rather a developer answered my question.
Unless you have a specific problem to point out, how can a developer or any one else give you an
answer a hypothetical potential problem?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: flaxthejute on January 17, 2007, 12:36:38 PM
Quote
Don't get me wrong here, but I'd rather a developer answered my question.
Unless you have a specific problem to point out, how can a developer or any one else give you an
answer a hypothetical potential problem?

Bob, Bob, Bob. If you follow my link in my first post on this thread back to last year http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=24687.0, and pop on over to the corresponding posts on the Comodo forums, you'll see that this issue has been discussed fully and in depth. And is not hypothetical!

Don't get me wrong. I like Avast! and I recommend it to anyone who asks, and I like this forum and the level of support it gives. It's main flaw is that issues like this affecting a small number of pcs tend to worm their way down the list of posts (the price of popularity, I suppose). I like both products well enough to have hung on for a resolution rather than just jumping ship, and would value a response that has detail enough to answer the question properly.

Sorry if I seem to be coming on strong about this, but it is important to me and those others that have had the problem, even if they are a minority.

Flax
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 17, 2007, 03:40:48 PM
Don't get me wrong here, but I'd rather a developer answered my question.

I have vague memories of a developer admitting to an inkling of why the problem was occurring, I'm just wondering if that has been resolved.
I understand Bob... we can't foresee the future. Right now, there is no problem. Old problems were solved and are due to Comodo and not avast.

It's main flaw is that issues like this affecting a small number of pcs
Conflict was due to Comodo using memory space of other dll loaded. It was not avast. I've sent a dump file that was analysed by them. Final dot. Trust avast and trust Comodo  8)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: flaxthejute on January 17, 2007, 04:59:47 PM
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Conflict was due to Comodo using memory space of other dll loaded. It was not avast. I've sent a dump file that was analysed by them. Final dot. Trust avast and trust Comodo

Thank you, a straight answer at last. Do you know why this affected some setups but not others? Actually never mind, if it's fixed I can reinstall Comodo on my wife's laptop once the final release is out.

Thanks again

Flax
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: Lisandro on January 17, 2007, 05:27:30 PM
Do you know why this affected some setups but not others?
Old ones (version 2.3.6) have some problems. Comodo team has worked hard to 'change' some dll injections on other process area (generally the ones that monitor applications / parent applications) and now they're working. The options of Application Behavior Analysis were improved.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of upcoming avast update (4.7.932)
Post by: flaxthejute on January 17, 2007, 05:57:03 PM
Thanks Tech.

I feel less bad tempered now ;) -- I'll go back to lurking   :-X

Flax