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Title: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 24, 2021, 07:12:39 PM

(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/06/24/17/12/cr1ZblV1uWv/preview.jpg)
Here's information directly from Microsoft in case you're wondering about requirements.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11?OCID=1_pchc_windows_app_omc_win (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11?OCID=1_pchc_windows_app_omc_win)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official
Post by: DavidR on June 24, 2021, 07:20:34 PM
So all this denial from MS seeking to deny its existence and what had been seen previously was just old conceptualising, etc. was just BS :)

EDIT _ Added attached image
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official
Post by: bob3160 on June 24, 2021, 07:22:07 PM
So all this denial from MS seeking to deny its existence and what had been seen previously was just old conceptualising, etc. was just BS :)
I certainly was. It did fool some people. Me being one of those.
I still remember the statement that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows you'll ever need.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official
Post by: DavidR on June 24, 2021, 07:28:05 PM
So all this denial from MS seeking to deny its existence and what had been seen previously was just old conceptualising, etc. was just BS :)
1.  I certainly was. It did fool some people. Me being one of those.

2.  I still remember the statement that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows you'll ever need.

2. I remember that one too.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official
Post by: merckxist on June 24, 2021, 07:38:00 PM
Now that W11 is official, is the forum topic "Windows 11 - Everything you need and want to know"  in the works?  ;D  or would we just be appending to this?  ???
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official
Post by: bob3160 on June 24, 2021, 07:43:44 PM
Now that W11 is official, is the forum topic "Windows 11 - Everything you need and want to know"  in the works?  ;D  or would we just be appending to this?  ???
I've modified the title so it should take care of everything related to Windows 11.
:)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official
Post by: schmidthouse on June 24, 2021, 10:14:50 PM
So all this denial from MS seeking to deny its existence and what had been seen previously was just old conceptualising, etc. was just BS :)
1.  I certainly was. It did fool some people. Me being one of those.

2.  I still remember the statement that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows you'll ever need.

2. I remember that one too.

Endless Endless Updates :-\
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official
Post by: bob3160 on June 24, 2021, 10:28:16 PM
So all this denial from MS seeking to deny its existence and what had been seen previously was just old conceptualising, etc. was just BS :)
1.  I certainly was. It did fool some people. Me being one of those.

2.  I still remember the statement that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows you'll ever need.

2. I remember that one too.

Endless Endless Updates :-\
Does it really matter if we now install Windows 11 and then start endless updates on that OS or,
if the new OS is just another update to the current Windows 10?
Not that it really matters, Windows 11 is official just no place where you can get it currently.


Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 24, 2021, 10:55:38 PM



(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/06/24/20/52/cr1ZYsV1UyK/preview.jpg)
Check for compatibility > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11

Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official
Post by: schmidthouse on June 24, 2021, 11:34:07 PM
So all this denial from MS seeking to deny its existence and what had been seen previously was just old conceptualising, etc. was just BS :)
1.  I certainly was. It did fool some people. Me being one of those.

2.  I still remember the statement that Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows you'll ever need.

2. I remember that one too.

Endless Endless Updates :-\
Does it really matter if we now install Windows 11 and then start endless updates on that OS or,
if the new OS is just another update to the current Windows 10?
Not that it really matters, Windows 11 is official just no place where you can get it currently.

Actually it doesn't matter for me, as apparently neither one of my laptops (both running W10) are compatible.

Edit
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: NON on June 25, 2021, 02:12:56 AM
Hm, my latest machine might go well with Win 11, barely, but others are clearly not compatible :(
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on June 25, 2021, 10:41:56 AM
Introducing Windows 11
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/06/24/introducing-windows-11/
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/06/24/building-a-new-open-microsoft-store-on-windows-11/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on June 25, 2021, 11:08:46 AM
Microsoft publishes the Windows 11 system requirements
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-publishes-the-windows-11-system-requirements/

These features are going away with Windows 11
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/these-features-are-going-away-with-windows-11/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on June 25, 2021, 04:49:51 PM
Mine won't qualify for the upgrade because of legacy BIOS and no TPM chip. I can purchase a TPM chip that will plug into the motherboard, but there's not much I can do about the BIOS without replacing parts. I just added a new SSD that Windows 10 is installed on, new power supply, 2 new case fans, a new CPU heatsink and fan, and new thermal paste for the processor and graphics card. It's nine years old and runs great. I am not giving up on this computer for Windows 11. Hopefully, Microsoft will relax the hardware related security requirements when 11 is released.


The good news is Windows 10 is supported until October 14, 2025.
Windows 10 Home and Pro - Microsoft Lifecycle | Microsoft Docs (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 25, 2021, 11:38:30 PM
I had one system where TPM was not turned on.
If you have the chip and need to turn TPM, open a RUN command (Windows key and R)
and type the following:
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/06/25/21/36/cr1TrzV1xTr/preview.jpg)
Check that the status for TPM in the management console shows as Ready
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on June 26, 2021, 12:40:53 PM
Windows 11 won't work without a TPM - What you need to know
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-wont-work-without-a-tpm-what-you-need-to-know/

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-qualcomm-processors
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on June 26, 2021, 09:42:07 PM
I just pulled the laptop out of the closet and ran PC Health Check. It found incompatibility because I don't have Secure Boot enabled because legacy BIOS is enabled. I haven't been able to get into the BIOS on this laptop and change it back to UEFI for a couple years now. Last year, I took it apart, cut component connections, resoldered connections and still could not get it to reset. I turn it on today and after entering 2 passwords, the BIOS screen pops up. Why couldn't this have happened 2 years ago? I changed the BIOS to UEFI and restarted the computer which would not boot. I reinstalled Windows 10 and it now boots up. Then I ran PC Health Check again which now shows me that my processor is incompatible. This has got to be one of the clumsiest tools I have used.




 
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 26, 2021, 10:38:24 PM
I just pulled the laptop out of the closet and ran PC Health Check. It found incompatibility because I don't have Secure Boot enabled because legacy BIOS is enabled. I haven't been able to get into the BIOS on this laptop and change it back to UEFI for a couple years now. Last year, I took it apart, cut component connections, resoldered connections and still could not get it to reset. I turn it on today and after entering 2 passwords, the BIOS screen pops up. Why couldn't this have happened 2 years ago? I changed the BIOS to UEFI and restarted the computer which would not boot. I reinstalled Windows 10 and it now boots up. Then I ran PC Health Check again which now shows me that my processor is incompatible. This has got to be one of the clumsiest tools I have used.
Did you check the list of needed components? Do you have all of them including TPM-2?
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on June 27, 2021, 12:33:23 AM
I just pulled the laptop out of the closet and ran PC Health Check. It found incompatibility because I don't have Secure Boot enabled because legacy BIOS is enabled. I haven't been able to get into the BIOS on this laptop and change it back to UEFI for a couple years now. Last year, I took it apart, cut component connections, resoldered connections and still could not get it to reset. I turn it on today and after entering 2 passwords, the BIOS screen pops up. Why couldn't this have happened 2 years ago? I changed the BIOS to UEFI and restarted the computer which would not boot. I reinstalled Windows 10 and it now boots up. Then I ran PC Health Check again which now shows me that my processor is incompatible. This has got to be one of the clumsiest tools I have used.
Did you check the list of needed components? Do you have all of them including TPM-2?
Neither of them match the requirements.



On my pc, I don't have secure boot or the TPM module.
My laptop doesn't have TPM and the processor is incompatible.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on June 27, 2021, 12:53:01 AM
I just pulled the laptop out of the closet and ran PC Health Check. It found incompatibility because I don't have Secure Boot enabled because legacy BIOS is enabled. I haven't been able to get into the BIOS on this laptop and change it back to UEFI for a couple years now. Last year, I took it apart, cut component connections, resoldered connections and still could not get it to reset. I turn it on today and after entering 2 passwords, the BIOS screen pops up. Why couldn't this have happened 2 years ago? I changed the BIOS to UEFI and restarted the computer which would not boot. I reinstalled Windows 10 and it now boots up. Then I ran PC Health Check again which now shows me that my processor is incompatible. This has got to be one of the clumsiest tools I have used.
Did you check the list of needed components? Do you have all of them including TPM-2?
On my pc, I don't have secure boot or the TPM module.
My laptop doesn't have TPM and the processor is incompatible.


Whilst my CPU is meant to support it, I'm in no rush, if it isn't supported, I will just stick with windows 10 until I eventually replace this laptop and I had already started investigation. 

I kept XP Pro for many years after support ended because of the programs I had installed programs that simply wouldn't have worked on win10 and I had no intention of purchasing a slew of programs just to get win10.

For me this is little less of a problem and there is some way to go yet before support for win10 is withdrawn, yes it might be nice, but it certainly isn't what I would consider an immediate necessity.

Next step for me is to run the WindowsPCHealthCheckSetup.msi check.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 27, 2021, 01:07:30 AM
Windows 10 support Will still happen till 2025.
I have one system that's ready to run 2011 once it's released.
That system is set up to receive the new version early since I'm a Windows Insider.
So far, no updates.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on June 27, 2021, 03:23:04 AM
Windows 10 support Will still happen till 2025.
I have one system that's ready to run 2011 once it's released.
That system is set up to receive the new version early since I'm a Windows Insider.
So far, no updates.

I have done some reading and some reports regular program updates to qualifying system not until the later part of 2021.

Which is fine for me as after downloading and running the windows 11 compatibility it is reporting my CPU isn't compatible.  So it looks like my plan to wait  until I eventually replace this laptop is my only option anyway.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on June 27, 2021, 10:07:46 AM
WhyNotWin11 is a better replacement for Windows 11's PC Health Check
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/whynotwin11-is-a-better-replacement-for-windows-11s-pc-health-check/

-> https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on June 27, 2021, 01:36:10 PM
WhyNotWin11 is a better replacement for Windows 11's PC Health Check
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/whynotwin11-is-a-better-replacement-for-windows-11s-pc-health-check/

-> https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases

Thanks for that whilst the WhyNotWin11 tool indicates my CPU Compatibility has an ! exclamation mark, but all other checks are OK, including the one about the TMP version being TMP 2 detected (which to me would seem to be the main criteria/requirement, but seems not) and secure boot being enabled.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on June 27, 2021, 03:37:04 PM

David,


This AMD Ryzen Threadripper processor is a bargain at $5399.99 plus you will save $100.00 if you bundle it with a compatible, eligible motherboard.


AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX Castle Peak 2.7GHz 64-Core sWRX8 Boxed Processor - Micro Center (https://www.microcenter.com/product/634208/amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-3995wx-castle-peak-27ghz-64-core-swrx8-boxed-processor)



Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 27, 2021, 03:57:11 PM

Ready for Windows 11? This will get you the answer.
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/06/27/13/52/cr1tIsV14vN/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/OHyh3jcVFbc)
https://youtu.be/OHyh3jcVFbc (https://youtu.be/OHyh3jcVFbc)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 27, 2021, 05:42:03 PM
Another tool that also gives you the reasons why the system can't be updated is
Win11SysCheck - https://github.com/mq1n/Win11SysCheck/releases/download/6/Win11SysCheck.exe
Here is a screenshot of my result,
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/06/27/15/28/cr1touV14z3/preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on June 27, 2021, 10:11:42 PM

David,


This AMD Ryzen Threadripper processor is a bargain at $5399.99 plus you will save $100.00 if you bundle it with a compatible, eligible motherboard.


AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX Castle Peak 2.7GHz 64-Core sWRX8 Boxed Processor - Micro Center (https://www.microcenter.com/product/634208/amd-ryzen-threadripper-pro-3995wx-castle-peak-27ghz-64-core-swrx8-boxed-processor)

So you think $5399.99 is cheap, you did notice I'm running a laptop, I could buy 3 new compatible laptop systems for this price :P
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on June 27, 2021, 10:23:59 PM
Another tool that also gives you the reasons why the system can't be updated is Win11SysCheck - https://github.com/mq1n/Win11SysCheck/releases/download/6/Win11SysCheck.exe

](https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/06/27/15/28/cr1touV14z3/preview.jpg)

Bob your URL link takes you to blogger.com, I have modified the quoted link.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 27, 2021, 10:44:31 PM
Another tool that also gives you the reasons why the system can't be updated is Win11SysCheck - https://github.com/mq1n/Win11SysCheck/releases/download/6/Win11SysCheck.exe (https://github.com/mq1n/Win11SysCheck/releases/download/6/Win11SysCheck.exe)

](https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/06/27/15/28/cr1touV14z3/preview.jpg)

Bob your URL link takes you to blogger.com, I have modified the quoted link.
Thanks I've corrected the link.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on June 28, 2021, 12:47:11 AM
<snip quote>
Bob your URL link takes you to blogger.com, I have modified the quoted link.
Thanks I've corrected the link.

No problem.

I have now run that little checker and I find that the WhyNotWin11 (WindowsPCHealthCheckSetup.msi) tool posted by Asyn in Reply #22 is a more detailed listing of the system specs and if it is compatible/OK for win11 (see image in my Reply #23).
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on June 29, 2021, 10:12:32 AM
Windows 11 preview build 22000.51 released - here's how to download
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-preview-build-2200051-released-heres-how-to-download/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 29, 2021, 10:38:22 AM
Windows 11 preview build 22000.51 released - here's how to download
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-preview-build-2200051-released-heres-how-to-download/ (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-preview-build-2200051-released-heres-how-to-download/)
My system is being updated right now.
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/06/29/08/46/cr1UjmV1g2m/preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on June 29, 2021, 02:31:15 PM

Windows 11 - Preview Release Windows 11 v10.0.22000 Build 22000
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/06/29/12/27/cr1UltV1gCG/preview.jpg)
https://youtu.be/ZaHzFLrohr8 (https://youtu.be/ZaHzFLrohr8)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on July 01, 2021, 02:33:25 PM
Price gouging TPM chips.


Windows 11 May Spark Scalping for TPM2.0 Chips, a Requirement To Run the OS | PCMag (https://www.pcmag.com/news/windows-11-may-spark-scalping-for-tpm20-chips-a-requirement-to-run-the)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: digmor crusher on July 01, 2021, 09:52:02 PM
https://www.reviewgeek.com/90550/how-microsoft-is-botching-the-windows-11-launch/ (https://www.reviewgeek.com/90550/how-microsoft-is-botching-the-windows-11-launch/)

We may want to skip installing 11 like most of us did for Vista and 8.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 01, 2021, 11:36:35 PM
https://www.reviewgeek.com/90550/how-microsoft-is-botching-the-windows-11-launch/ (https://www.reviewgeek.com/90550/how-microsoft-is-botching-the-windows-11-launch/)

We may want to skip installing 11 like most of us did for Vista and 8.
For me it's already running without problems on one system.
I also had no problems with either Vista or Windows 8.
Neither Vista or Win 8 lasted very long before they got replaced.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: digmor crusher on July 02, 2021, 06:28:10 AM
Didn't say its going to be problematic, just saying it may not be that good. Time will tell.
Many had no problems with Vista or 8, but they were universally condemned as garbage for the most part.
They got replaced because they were inferior.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 02, 2021, 04:03:04 PM
Didn't say its going to be problematic, just saying it may not be that good. Time will tell.
Many had no problems with Vista or 8, but they were universally condemned as garbage for the most part.
They got replaced because they were inferior.
Interpretation.
"It may be" is similar to "assuming". Neither in my book make much sense.
Not being popular doesn't make a product garbage.


Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 02, 2021, 11:36:55 PM
Windows 11 - Quick Action Center
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/02/21/33/crinryV1dkO/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/ipXQcAGajrk)
https://youtu.be/ipXQcAGajrk (https://youtu.be/ipXQcAGajrk)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: rocksteady on July 03, 2021, 11:04:22 AM
Hmmm. Maybe MS are having some second thoughts:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-microsoft-apologizes-for-compatibility-confusion-hints-at-changes/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on July 03, 2021, 12:23:00 PM
How to bypass the Windows 11 TPM 2.0 requirement
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/how-to-bypass-the-windows-11-tpm-20-requirement/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 03, 2021, 03:12:39 PM
Hands on with the First Windows 11 Insider Preview

Table of Contents
Goodbye Ribbon!
New Settings Interface
The Centered Taskbar Is Fine
Updated Start Menu
Widgets Are Broken
No Android Apps Yet
Multi-Monitor Support Is the Best

https://www.reviewgeek.com/90779/hands-on-with-the-first-windows-11-insider-preview/ (https://www.reviewgeek.com/90779/hands-on-with-the-first-windows-11-insider-preview/)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on July 03, 2021, 06:03:28 PM
How to bypass the Windows 11 TPM 2.0 requirement
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/how-to-bypass-the-windows-11-tpm-20-requirement/

This pretty much confirms some videos and checks I have made that M 'bloody S' have made arbitrary decisions not based on the system such as unless you have an intel cpu of version 8 you're stuffed (forcing you to make such hacks).  Many intel chips pre version 8 (such as my i5 7200u) had TMP integrated into the chip.  So the M 'bloody' S check isn't checking at all but following an arbitrary list. 

I all honesty, forcing it to be recognised is just bloody hassle I can do without, just to get win11. 

Considering my win10 laptop is 4 years old and will continue to get win10 updates for some time, I will avoid the hassle and wait until I replace this system.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: schmidthouse on July 03, 2021, 09:11:58 PM
How to bypass the Windows 11 TPM 2.0 requirement
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/how-to-bypass-the-windows-11-tpm-20-requirement/

This pretty much confirms some videos and checks I have made that M 'bloody S' have made arbitrary decisions not based on the system such as unless you have an intel cpu of version 8 you're stuffed (forcing you to make such hacks).  Many intel chips pre version 8 (such as my i5 7200u) had TMP integrated into the chip.  So the M 'bloody' S check isn't checking at all but following an arbitrary list. 

I all honesty, forcing it to be recognized is just bloody hassle I can do without, just to get win11. 

Considering my win10 laptop is 4 years old and will continue to get win10 updates for some time, I will avoid the hassle and wait until I replace this system.

That's the  strategy I decided on, as soon as I realized W11 was not mainline OS upgrade requiring elements not existent on my very up to date lap top.
Unless MS revamps the W11 requirements I'm happy with my W10 version :)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 03, 2021, 09:13:21 PM
Happy or not, we don't have much of a choice.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on July 03, 2021, 11:04:40 PM
Happy or not, we don't have much of a choice.

Of course we have a choice, many would probably go for win11, but what is effectively deception, saying their system isn't compatible when:

A:  Arbitrary decisions not based on the system such as unless you have an intel cpu of version 8, it isn't compatible, when many pre version CPUs with the TMP functionality built in.
B:  If it is possible for people to make registry changes and be able to get win11.
C:  If people stick with win10, as you mentioned "Windows 10 support Will still happen till 2025."

Quote from: Extract form Bleeping Computers link above, Reply #41.
How to bypass the TPM requirement in Windows 11

If you are attempting to install Windows 11 and receive a message stating, "This PC can't run Windows 11," it is likely that you do not have a TPM 2.0 installed or enabled.

The good news is that Microsoft includes a new 'LabConfig' registry key that allows you to configure settings to bypass the TPM 2.0, the 4GB memory, and Secure Boot requirements.

Based on the name of this registry key, it is likely used by Microsoft or OEMs to set up a "lab" environment to test the Windows 11 on older equipment or when testing new features.

That said, there are several choices:
1.  install it if compatible.
2.  hack your system to get it, if technically proficient.
3.  stick with win10 until 2025.
4. wait for your next system update, if you can afford it.

But in all honesty this really isn't really a choice but a fact of life, depending on your personal circumstances.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 03, 2021, 11:30:24 PM
I see folks treating not being able to install Windows 11 like it's the end of the world.
Windows 10 works very well and will be fully supported until 2025.
If you have a system that you can update to 2011, do so and get used to the next operating system
which will come with future computer purchases.
There are also still millions of users that are still using Windows 7. To me that's a bit foolish but, it's their security and choice.



Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on July 04, 2021, 01:49:34 AM
That's the problem, I have a system that should be able to update to win11, but because of MS's arbitrary decision that all intel cpus earlier than version 8 aren't I get the CPU isn't compatible Image in Reply #21.  Yet all checks indicate that the i5 7200U has TPM (fTPM) is built into the CPU.

So I just don't know if MS is only checking the CPU type and anything lower than version 8 is a non-starter, regardless. 

###
Opening a cmd window and running the command, tmp.msc returns the TMP status on my system, see attached image.

Now I don't know if the Status: 'The TMP is ready for use' means it is ready, but you have to say to use/enable it.  But that means diddly squat to MS as it has said the CPU isn't compatible.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 07, 2021, 05:00:19 PM

Windows 11 - Checking for a TPM 2.0 Chip
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/07/14/55/crii2NV19L7/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/FfLAJY_TIAk)
https://youtu.be/FfLAJY_TIAk (https://youtu.be/FfLAJY_TIAk)
An easy way to check for the currently required TPM 2.0 chip.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 09, 2021, 06:37:50 AM

Getting my DELL Inspiron 7786 ready for Windows 11
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/09/04/34/criQf4ViVxE/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/z1VJ3svoPfQ)
https://youtu.be/z1VJ3svoPfQ (https://youtu.be/z1VJ3svoPfQ)
Perseverance does pay off. TPM isn't always called TPM.
Different manufacturers have different names for this Trusted chip.
On my Dell it was called PTT
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: schmidthouse on July 09, 2021, 06:56:40 AM
That's the problem, I have a system that should be able to update to win11, but because of MS's arbitrary decision that all intel cpus earlier than version 8 aren't I get the CPU isn't compatible Image in Reply #21.  Yet all checks indicate that the i5 7200U has TPM (fTPM) is built into the CPU.

So I just don't know if MS is only checking the CPU type and anything lower than version 8 is a non-starter, regardless. 

###
Opening a cmd window and running the command, tmp.msc returns the TMP status on my system, see attached image.

Now I don't know if the Status: 'The TMP is ready for use' means it is ready, but you have to say to use/enable it.  But that means diddly squat to MS as it has said the CPU isn't compatible.

IMO this is a major cluster f+++
I purchased the HP compaq 8510 Pro (shown in my profile)brand new in 2001 with xp pro factory installed. This laptop has now had (skipping vista) Win 7- Win8- Win 8.5 and now Win 10 20H2 and doing my work for me excellently
Now my point, The 5 year old HP Envy with only Win 10 installed apparently isn't compatible for upgrade to Win 11. The only way I'll upgrade to Win 11 is if MS puts it through as a Mainline upgrade without any special hacking work arounds.
Unbelievable  ::)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on July 09, 2021, 09:28:16 AM
Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.65
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/07/08/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-65/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: sekgrranin on July 09, 2021, 11:18:26 AM
Hello.I am interested in Windows 11 since several months (I remind that Windows 10X is the basis of Windows 11) Many propose a compatibility checker (Whynotwin11) opensource. However, many security suites reject it because it does not respect their security scheme. Another software is appearing : https://www.wisecleaner.com/checkit.html , what do you think about it ?
Thanks
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 09, 2021, 01:15:41 PM
Hello.I am interested in Windows 11 since several months (I remind that Windows 10X is the basis of Windows 11) Many propose a compatibility checker (Whynotwin11) opensource. However, many security suites reject it because it does not respect their security scheme. Another software is appearing : https://www.wisecleaner.com/checkit.html (https://www.wisecleaner.com/checkit.html) , what do you think about it ?
Thanks
I prefer the interface of WhyNot11 https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/latest/download/WhyNotWin11.exe (https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/latest/download/WhyNotWin11.exe)
You can see it in the video I posted here,
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=285635.msg1636057#msg1636057
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 12, 2021, 04:53:47 PM

Windows 11 - Controlling the Task Bar
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/12/14/52/cril2sVijh2/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/s_jnkxZXkyw)
https://youtu.be/s_jnkxZXkyw (https://youtu.be/s_jnkxZXkyw)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on July 16, 2021, 09:50:30 AM
Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.71
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/07/15/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-71/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 18, 2021, 04:48:33 PM
Windows 11 - 4 Shortcut Keys specific to Windows 11
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/18/14/46/criF2mVi0GY/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/hWOL31efUX8)
https://youtu.be/hWOL31efUX8 (https://youtu.be/hWOL31efUX8)

Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 19, 2021, 11:52:23 PM

Windows 11 - Easy Access to the Task Manager
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/19/21/47/criqrHVitDF/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/EGA4ak6mftM)
https://youtu.be/EGA4ak6mftM (https://youtu.be/EGA4ak6mftM)
An uncomplicated way to always be able to access the Task Manager in Windows 11.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 20, 2021, 10:26:08 PM

Windows 11 - I ran into a problem
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/20/20/22/criYY3Vivej/preview.jpg)
https://youtu.be/eyVGvrfc0T0 (https://youtu.be/eyVGvrfc0T0)
I've found a bug.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on July 21, 2021, 01:56:52 AM

Windows 11 - I ran into a problem
<snip image>
https://youtu.be/eyVGvrfc0T0 (https://youtu.be/eyVGvrfc0T0)
I've found a bug.

I notice you are just clicking on the Option, in the right of the section there is a 'right arrow style' more selection/options.

What happens if you click that ?
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 21, 2021, 03:37:18 AM

Windows 11 - I ran into a problem
<snip image>
https://youtu.be/eyVGvrfc0T0 (https://youtu.be/eyVGvrfc0T0)
I've found a bug.

I notice you are just clicking on the Option, in the right of the section there is a 'right arrow style' more selection/options.

What happens if you click that ?
Same effect. I also tried other options to get to that setting with the same result.
As you'll see in the next video, I managed to get to that setting after many tries.
After a reboot, I was again unsuccessful to reach that setting.

Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 21, 2021, 03:38:54 AM

Windows 11 - Increase Performance via Power Mode
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/21/01/29/crirVUVivz3/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/RLD_k2Atv8o)
https://youtu.be/RLD_k2Atv8o (https://youtu.be/RLD_k2Atv8o)
A slight settings change to increase your computer/laptops efficiency.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on July 23, 2021, 09:11:51 AM
Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.100
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/07/22/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-100/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 24, 2021, 02:03:16 PM
Interested in trying Windows 11?
If your system can't run Windows 11, that's OK
This is a Browser Simulation very well done.
It gives you a chance to see if this is something you'll be interested in.
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/24/12/02/criZlnVigKn/preview.jpg)
https://win11.blueedge.me/ (https://win11.blueedge.me/)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 24, 2021, 03:05:25 PM

Why Microsoft Centered the Start Button in Windows 11
You'll find an official answer here,
https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-microsoft-centered-the-start-button-in-windows-11-11627038002
For me it was a welcome change. :)
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/24/13/02/criZInVigsH/preview.jpg)
My coffee cup was always blocking the start button in Windows 10
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on July 28, 2021, 10:25:55 PM
Hi Bob.

What does Windows 11 have for native file backup and system imaging? Same as Windows 10?

I use Windows system image, but I do not use Windows file backup.

Thanks
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2021, 12:24:31 AM
Hi Charyb,
The best way to answer you is this way,
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/28/22/20/criu3YViKzX/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/ACN1mX8dCkM)
https://youtu.be/ACN1mX8dCkM (https://youtu.be/ACN1mX8dCkM)

Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2021, 08:28:36 PM

Windows 11 - Getting to the Control Panel
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/29/18/24/criUFZVisRM/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/FjEDlwfIjjc)
https://youtu.be/FjEDlwfIjjc (https://youtu.be/FjEDlwfIjjc)
The easiest way I know of getting to the Control Panel in Windows 11.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on July 29, 2021, 08:45:31 PM
Hi Charyb,
The best way to answer you is this way,
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/28/22/20/criu3YViKzX/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/ACN1mX8dCkM)
https://youtu.be/ACN1mX8dCkM (https://youtu.be/ACN1mX8dCkM)
Thanks for the video response, Bob. I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 29, 2021, 09:15:52 PM
@Charyb,
Always happy to help. :)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on July 30, 2021, 03:43:50 PM

Windows 11 - Beta Channel
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/07/30/13/38/crivIBViNcg/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/otF6u2OInCw)
https://youtu.be/otF6u2OInCw (https://youtu.be/otF6u2OInCw)
You can now try Windows 11 on the more stable Insider beta channel.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on August 01, 2021, 03:11:41 PM
How to download Windows 11 while avoiding malware
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/fake-windows-11-installers/40718/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 01, 2021, 03:36:27 PM
How to download Windows 11 while avoiding malware
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/fake-windows-11-installers/40718/ (https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/fake-windows-11-installers/40718/)
Become an Insider and get it directly from Microsoft via the update channel. :)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 01, 2021, 03:40:05 PM

Windows 11 - Renaming Problem
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/01/13/37/crjVIAVi9la/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/IzQcekRH2Fo)
https://youtu.be/IzQcekRH2Fo (https://youtu.be/IzQcekRH2Fo)
Renaming a file in Windows 11 isn't simple due to a bug.
The entire name needs to be re-typed. Simple adjustments aren't possible.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on August 02, 2021, 01:28:08 PM
Windows 11 future updates: Here's everything you need to know
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-future-updates-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 05, 2021, 09:09:31 PM

Windows 11 - Taskbar alignment (Center or Left)
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/05/19/05/crjhqhVjj22/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/ZxZdCVTgLMU)
https://youtu.be/ZxZdCVTgLMU (https://youtu.be/ZxZdCVTgLMU)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on August 05, 2021, 09:45:34 PM

Windows 11 - Taskbar alignment (Center or Left)
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/05/19/05/crjhqhVjj22/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/ZxZdCVTgLMU)
https://youtu.be/ZxZdCVTgLMU (https://youtu.be/ZxZdCVTgLMU)


Ha, for the number of items you have on the Taskbar it hardly makes much difference.

I like to go minimalist - On my taskbar I currently only have 5 icons, excluding the Windows icon and Search icon.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 05, 2021, 10:17:22 PM
I only have items that I use very frequently pinned to the taskbar.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on August 05, 2021, 10:49:54 PM
I only have items that I use very frequently pinned to the taskbar.

Exactly, these are the ones I use very frequently or they wouldn't be their either :)

To get on my Taskbar they would have to be used several times a day. 
A long time ago I used a Taskbar style app/program that had the Icons on the Top, like the Mac style but I never installed that in win10. I quite liked that as they were transparent and also hid after a while, moving the mouse to the top brought them back up.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 05, 2021, 11:40:53 PM
I only have items that I use very frequently pinned to the taskbar.

Exactly, these are the ones I use very frequently or they wouldn't be their either :)

To get on my Taskbar they would have to be used several times a day. 
A long time ago I used a Taskbar style app/program that had the Icons on the Top, like the Mac style but I never installed that in win10. I quite liked that as they were transparent and also hid after a while, moving the mouse to the top brought them back up.
That behavior is an option that available via the taskbar settings.
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/05/21/39/crjhrgVjjzy/preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 06, 2021, 11:33:20 PM

Windows 11 - New Icon in the Taskbar
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/06/21/27/crj1rtVjXwD/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/ar9LhQwQB8g)
https://youtu.be/ar9LhQwQB8g (https://youtu.be/ar9LhQwQB8g)
There's now a notification icon in the taskbar (right side)
when it's time to do a restart of your system.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Leo3487 on August 07, 2021, 06:15:35 AM
Microsoft said will earn 0% coomission from apps at their store
Now all is correct to have an "S-mode"
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 07, 2021, 02:43:52 PM
Microsoft said will earn 0% coomission from apps at their store
Now all is correct to have an "S-mode"
You can't install Windows 11 on an S-mode system.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on August 10, 2021, 08:41:49 AM
New ASUS BIOS updates enable TPM 2.0 support for Windows 11
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/new-asus-bios-updates-enable-tpm-20-support-for-windows-11/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on August 13, 2021, 10:17:58 AM
Windows 11 gets new versions of Snipping Tool, Mail, and Calculator
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-gets-new-versions-of-snipping-tool-mail-and-calculator/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 13, 2021, 01:21:46 PM
Windows 11 gets new versions of Snipping Tool, Mail, and Calculator
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-gets-new-versions-of-snipping-tool-mail-and-calculator/ (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-gets-new-versions-of-snipping-tool-mail-and-calculator/)
You would never learn this from that headline or article. :)
Windows 11 - Snipping Tool
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/13/11/18/crjIXFVjulc/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/1hTCIxgdNJA)
https://youtu.be/1hTCIxgdNJA (https://youtu.be/1hTCIxgdNJA)
There are actually two ways to reach the Snipping Tool in Windows 11.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 13, 2021, 10:18:27 PM
So, I have a desktop that isn't supposed to be able to run Windows 11.
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/13/20/09/crjIYQVjUva/preview.jpg)
I started the system this afternoon to do the latest Windows 10 updates.
I was greeted with a screen that said "Updating Don't tur of your system"
Once the system finished updating and was restarted, I was greeted with the following,
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/13/20/15/crjIYoVjUwy/preview.jpg)
I don't have a clue what Microsoft changed but I'm definitely on
Windows 11 on this system.
That now leaves only one computer that can't change to Windows 11 once it's officially release.



Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on August 13, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
Interesting. I wonder how often the requirements will change until W11 release? Microsoft pulled the PC Health Check app.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 13, 2021, 11:15:40 PM
Interesting. I wonder how often the requirements will change until W11 release? Microsoft pulled the PC Health Check app.
I didn't use their app since it gives very little or no information about a system failure.

Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 14, 2021, 03:43:00 PM

Windows 11 - Calculator
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/14/13/39/crj2IgVjvaG/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/KSzEBa-22p0)
https://youtu.be/KSzEBa-22p0 (https://youtu.be/KSzEBa-22p0)
A quick look at the enhanced Calculator in Windows 11.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 15, 2021, 02:58:06 PM

Windows 11 - System Restore
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/15/12/50/crjolKVjwNU/preview.jpg) (https://youtu.be/e6mQJzOCmcI)
https://youtu.be/e6mQJzOCmcI (https://youtu.be/e6mQJzOCmcI)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on August 20, 2021, 12:35:59 PM
Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.160
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/19/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-160/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 20, 2021, 12:42:00 PM
Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.160
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/19/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-160/ (https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/19/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-160/)
The update was waiting for me this morning.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 20, 2021, 02:39:11 PM
Windows 11 Emoji's
😊❤️😍🤞🎶🤦‍♀️😁
One of the "updates" in this new OS.
You activate or open them via a shortcut key combo
Windows Key and . (period).
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 23, 2021, 09:48:37 PM
A Windows 11 Oxymoron
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/23/19/41/crj0qpVj8rz/preview.jpg)

Windows is telling me that my system doesn't meet the requirements
I'm clearly running Windows 11 and have for quite a few weeks.
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/08/23/19/46/crj0qmVj83t/preview.jpg)
 There have also not been any hardware or software problems.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on August 26, 2021, 12:24:51 AM
Hi Bob,
Is there anything that really stands out with Windows 11 as compared to Windows 10? What are some things that make it worthwhile?
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 26, 2021, 12:58:26 AM
Hi Bob,
Is there anything that really stands out with Windows 11 as compared to Windows 10? What are some things that make it worthwhile?
I'm sure there are underlying improvements. Most of what I see are cosmetic changes.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 27, 2021, 10:32:04 PM
Windows 11 Build 22000.168 (KB5005191) is out.
https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/08/28/windows-11-build-22000-168-kb5005189-is-out-with-new-widget/ (https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/08/28/windows-11-build-22000-168-kb5005189-is-out-with-new-widget/)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on August 30, 2021, 10:23:22 AM
Microsoft won’t stop you installing Windows 11 on older PCs
https://www.theverge.com/22644194/microsoft-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-processors-changes
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on August 31, 2021, 03:00:54 PM
Microsoft won’t stop you installing Windows 11 on older PCs
https://www.theverge.com/22644194/microsoft-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-processors-changes (https://www.theverge.com/22644194/microsoft-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-processors-changes)
There are those of us who didn't bypass the system and still recieved Windows 11
https://bob3160.blogspot.com/2021/08/microsoft-may-withhold-security-updates.html
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: sekgrranin on August 31, 2021, 06:04:14 PM
Hello friends, It will be for the 05/10/2021
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/08/31/windows-11-available-on-october-5/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on September 02, 2021, 09:10:25 AM
Microsoft kicks unsupported PCs out of Windows 11 preview program
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-kicks-unsupported-pcs-out-of-windows-11-preview-program/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on September 02, 2021, 01:50:56 PM
Microsoft kicks unsupported PCs out of Windows 11 preview program
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-kicks-unsupported-pcs-out-of-windows-11-preview-program/ (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-kicks-unsupported-pcs-out-of-windows-11-preview-program/)
I'm still on Windows 11 and as reported, it's not a supported system.
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1651807#msg1651807
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on September 02, 2021, 02:35:20 PM
Microsoft kicks unsupported PCs out of Windows 11 preview program
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-kicks-unsupported-pcs-out-of-windows-11-preview-program/ (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-kicks-unsupported-pcs-out-of-windows-11-preview-program/)
I'm still on Windows 11 and as reported, it's not a supported system.
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=93544.msg1651807#msg1651807

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Update 9/1/21: Microsoft's Brandon LeBlanc, Senior Program Manager on the Windows Insider Program Team, clarified that unsupported devices will continue to receive cumulative updates but will no longer receive new Windows 11 builds.

    The PCs given an exception will no longer receive any new future Insider Preview builds from the Dev Channel but will still get Cumulative Updates for Windows 11 leading up to GA. As I said, there is a distinction between *new builds* here.
    — Brandon LeBlanc (@brandonleblanc) September 1, 2021
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on September 03, 2021, 10:32:41 AM
Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22000.176
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/02/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22000-176/

Announcing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 22449
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/09/02/announcing-windows-11-insider-preview-build-22449/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on September 12, 2021, 06:08:07 PM

Windows 11 - Reaching Image Backup
(https://d1ka0itfguscri.cloudfront.net/Lh/2021/09/12/16/04/crQlDfVQNqB/preview.jpg)
https://youtu.be/yHGpPo0RGoY (https://youtu.be/yHGpPo0RGoY)
Getting to the Image Backup feature in Windows 11
Easy access to the Control Panel, https://youtu.be/FjEDlwfIjjc
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on September 21, 2021, 04:50:38 PM
Windows 11 Health Check Tool n ow available for everyone.
https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp (https://aka.ms/GetPCHealthCheckApp)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on September 21, 2021, 07:03:08 PM
To be hones I am not that enthusiastic about Windows 11. Looks to me that we will see a lot of updates untill we get a stable windows 11. But this is just my opinion.
As a MS insider, I can tell you it's been fairly steady for quite a while.
Using Windows 11 is a choice not a requirement. Windows 10 will still be supported through most of 2025.
It's your choice. The information in here is provided for the benefit of anyone interested in Windows 11.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: -midnight on October 01, 2021, 04:55:09 PM
This computer is compatible but I don't think I would like Windows 11.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 01, 2021, 05:11:43 PM
This computer is compatible but I don't think I would like Windows 11.
You also didn't like Windows 10. :)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on October 01, 2021, 05:12:02 PM
This computer is compatible but I don't think I would like Windows 11.

Simple then, don't upgrade to windows 11, windows 10 is supported until 2025.

But isn't that what you have been saying many times before about updating programs, if you don't want to, then wait and see how it goes.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on October 01, 2021, 05:14:38 PM
But isn't that what you have been saying many times before about updating programs, if you don't want to, then wait and see how it goes.
+++1 ;)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: -midnight on October 01, 2021, 09:02:49 PM
@bob3160  After I got used to using Win 10 I liked it.

@DavidR  From what I've read about Win 11 it's going to be a lot different than Win 10. Maybe after Microsoft releases it and I read about any forum member's who installs it and likes it then I might want it.  I'm sure I'll have quite awhile to decide whether or not I want it.  I would rather wait until I can buy a new computer that is Windows 11.










Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 01, 2021, 09:59:40 PM
@bob3160  After I got used to using Win 10 I liked it.

@DavidR  From what I've read about Win 11 it's going to be a lot different than Win 10. Maybe after Microsoft releases it and I read about any forum member's who installs it and likes it then I might want it.  I'm sure I'll have quite awhile to decide whether or not I want it.  I would rather wait until I can buy a new computer that is Windows 11.
Do you have more than one computer? If so, it might be a good idea
to install windows 11 on one computer and leave the other one with windows 10.
That way, if you run into a problem on Windows 11, you can always search for an answer on the Windows 10 computer.
You'll also find a lot of help in this thread and a link to many tutorials.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1_9cbkt8g20rFXEEpuXlPF0sjsUv8CAm
You can also ask questions of someone who's been using Windows 11 exclusively
since June. :)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: -midnight on October 01, 2021, 11:09:01 PM
I have 3 computers that are Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on October 01, 2021, 11:54:47 PM
@bob3160  After I got used to using Win 10 I liked it.

@DavidR  From what I've read about Win 11 it's going to be a lot different than Win 10. Maybe after Microsoft releases it and I read about any forum member's who installs it and likes it then I might want it.  I'm sure I'll have quite awhile to decide whether or not I want it.  I would rather wait until I can buy a new computer that is Windows 11.

Life and especially computing is all about change, my first computer if you can call it that was an Amstrad PCW (Personal Computer Word processor) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amstrad_PCW. This was basically that a word processor, with two disks (not Hard Disks) on containing the program and the other to store files.  I still remember the co called colour screen black with Green text.

My first Windows system was Windows 3.1 and 3.11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1x
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_Windows_versions

My first modern computer would have had Windows 95 to win98, win98 2nd edition, WinXP, Win 7, Windows 10,  so I frequently skipped versions, not because of fear of change but I didn't feel that there was anything there that I felt I needed.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 04, 2021, 02:51:48 PM
Windows 11 Context Menu (Right click menu)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=164936.msg1659056#msg1659056 (https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=164936.msg1659056#msg1659056)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on October 05, 2021, 09:49:46 AM
Windows 11 is released: What you need to know and new features
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-is-released-what-you-need-to-know-and-new-features/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on October 05, 2021, 11:49:18 AM
Windows 11 is released: What you need to know and new features
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-is-released-what-you-need-to-know-and-new-features/

Interesting that they have released win11, when they have failed to release 21h2 for win10 or are they hoping people will jump to win11 and not have to push 21h2 for win10.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on October 06, 2021, 10:04:36 AM
Microsoft confirms Windows 11 issues with VirtualBox, Intel Killer
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-confirms-windows-11-issues-with-virtualbox-intel-killer/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on October 08, 2021, 09:34:15 AM
AMD warns of up to 15% Windows 11 performance decrease
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/amd-warns-of-up-to-15-percent-windows-11-performance-decrease/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 08, 2021, 12:58:26 PM
AMD warns of up to 15% Windows 11 performance decrease
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/amd-warns-of-up-to-15-percent-windows-11-performance-decrease/ (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/amd-warns-of-up-to-15-percent-windows-11-performance-decrease/)
I'm sure that just like all other problems, this one will get resolved.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on October 10, 2021, 12:46:57 PM
Windows 11: Microsoft is investigating these eight problems
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-microsoft-is-investigating-these-eight-problems/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 10, 2021, 02:02:05 PM
Windows 11: Microsoft is investigating these eight problems
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-microsoft-is-investigating-these-eight-problems/ (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-microsoft-is-investigating-these-eight-problems/)
Considering this is a major upgrade, I'm surprised there are only eight on that list.
I personally haven't run into any of these problems on the 3 systems that are running Windows 11.
(all of my systems are Intel.)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on October 12, 2021, 09:23:08 AM
Windows 11 incompatible with apps using non-ASCII registry keys
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-incompatible-with-apps-using-non-ascii-registry-keys/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 12, 2021, 02:52:31 PM
Windows 11 incompatible with apps using non-ASCII registry keys
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-incompatible-with-apps-using-non-ascii-registry-keys/ (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-incompatible-with-apps-using-non-ascii-registry-keys/)
I believe that was also the case in Windows 10.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on October 12, 2021, 05:33:48 PM
Windows 11 incompatible with apps using non-ASCII registry keys
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-incompatible-with-apps-using-non-ascii-registry-keys/ (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-incompatible-with-apps-using-non-ascii-registry-keys/)
I believe that was also the case in Windows 10.

If that was so, why haven't they learnt the lessons of old  ???
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 12, 2021, 07:33:05 PM
If you're trying to install Windows 11,
you'll find everything you need here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
Be sure to read and follow all instructions.
If you computer isn't ready for Windows 11, stay with Windows 10.
Windows 10 is still fully supported through October 2025.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Asyn on October 13, 2021, 09:37:21 AM
Windows 11 KB5006674 update released with compatibility fixes
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-kb5006674-update-released-with-compatibility-fixes/
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 13, 2021, 01:39:02 PM
Windows 11 KB5006674 update released with compatibility fixes
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-kb5006674-update-released-with-compatibility-fixes/ (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-11-kb5006674-update-released-with-compatibility-fixes/)
Installed yesterday as part of the regular patch Tuesday updates.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: -midnight on October 13, 2021, 04:46:40 PM
@bob3160,

When I decide to install windows 11 can I still sign on with password  I use to sign on with windows 10?
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 13, 2021, 05:31:29 PM
@bob3160,

When I decide to install windows 11 can I still sign on with password  I use to sign on with windows 10?
Your passwords don't change. Just the Operating System.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: Charyb on October 15, 2021, 03:55:12 PM
Interesting read regarding Windows 11 security.


Windows 11 is out. Is it any good for security? - Malwarebytes Labs | Malwarebytes Labs (https://blog.malwarebytes.com/malwarebytes-news/2021/10/windows-11-security/)
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: DavidR on October 15, 2021, 04:37:41 PM
Interesting read regarding Windows 11 security.

Windows 11 is out. Is it any good for security? - Malwarebytes Labs | Malwarebytes Labs (https://blog.malwarebytes.com/malwarebytes-news/2021/10/windows-11-security/)

In all honesty I can't see this as being the panacea that it is made to look like.

Wasn't win10 and all the previous OSes before that meant to bring security improvements.  But it didn't take the malware/exploits too long to catch up.  Hell the big point of having UEFI and TPM 2.0 enabled CPUs, may even fall foul to a very recent bootkit exploit that can circumvent these functions/checks.

Windows is a HUGE target for the miscreant malware writers/hackers, etc.  Is it better than win10 and previous win OSes, probably, but certainly not the end for malware, but the start of a new game.
Title: Re: Windows 11 - It's official - Questions, Answers, Tip and Tricks
Post by: bob3160 on October 15, 2021, 05:00:21 PM
Interesting read regarding Windows 11 security.

Windows 11 is out. Is it any good for security? - Malwarebytes Labs | Malwarebytes Labs (https://blog.malwarebytes.com/malwarebytes-news/2021/10/windows-11-security/)

In all honesty I can't see this as being the panacea that it is made to look like.

Wasn't win10 and all the previous OSes before that meant to bring security improvements.  But it didn't take the malware/exploits too long to catch up.  Hell the big point of having UEFI and TPM 2.0 enabled CPUs, may even fall foul to a very recent bootkit exploit that can circumvent these functions/checks.

Windows is a HUGE target for the miscreant malware writers/hackers, etc.  Is it better than win10 and previous win OSes, probably, but certainly not the end for malware, but the start of a new game.
Especially since Microsoft has lifted some of it's security enhancements and allowed
installation on systems that don't meet their initial requirements.
The bypass is posted on the Microsoft update website.