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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: drhayden1 on June 07, 2007, 05:32:50 PM
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What's New in Ad-Aware 2007 Free?
• Redesigned Engine – Benefit from superior program flexibility and more accurate scanning methods with all-new program architecture.
• Improved Code Sequence Identification (CSI) Technology – Boost your privacy protection with precise detection of embedded malware, including known and emerging threats.
• Incremental Definition File Updates – Save precious time and resources with smaller update files resulting in faster download times.
• TrackSweep - Control privacy by erasing tracks left behind while surfing the Web on Internet Explorer, Firefox, and Opera, with one easy click.
• Multiple Browser Support – Choose Internet Explorer, Firefox, or Opera with expanded browser support.
• New Straightforward User Interface – Effortlessly maneuver the complexities of malware detection and removal with our new user-friendly interface.
More Key Features
• User-Controlled Spyware Removal - Decide for yourself what to delete from your system and what to keep.
• Extensive Detection Database – Stay protected with priority updates from our extensive library of identified and analyzed spyware.
• System Restore Point – Easily revert back to your clean system to recover from a spyware attack.
More info at http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
NOTE: Ad-Aware 2007 is NOT compatible with Vista yet. Vista users will have to wait until end of August.
More at their blog http://www.lavasoft.com/company/blog/?p=220
If you have add-ons in Ad-Aware SE, please remove it before installing Ad-Aware 2007.
Ad-Aware 2007's installer will uninstall old version (Ad-Aware SE) but if you prefer clean-install... uninstall Ad-Aware SE before installing Ad-Aware 2007.
Download Ad-aware 2007 from:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download506.html
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
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I think I will wait a little while to let them iron out any kinks. I posted about possible false positive detections (IMHO) in their support forums 13 days ago and not a single response, I bumped the post yesterday and no response.
So I would hate to experience any problem and have to seek help on their support forum, it is totally pants.
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I hope this version works better than the last version ... which I dumped in favor of SpywareTerminator.
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just was posting it...gonna wait and see what the reviews and/or comments are before i decide whether to use it again or not ::) ???
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So I would hate to experience any problem and have to seek help on their support forum, it is totally pants.
Indeed, lack of support is annoying...
I hope this version works better than the last version ... which I dumped in favor of SpywareTerminator.
I merely use the last version as it only detects MRU and nothing more... AVGas, SpywareTerminator and SuperAntispyware rule!
But I can't resist to test 8)
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The new version seems to have a service in memory even when not running, like SuperAntiSpyware.
Looks like it might get the boot if I don't find a way to disable it.
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freewheelinfrank...i downloaded it and ran a full scan and all it found was MRU's and in my task manager processes there's a aawservice.exe running at a whopping mem usuage of 36,160K (at present)even though its not on or i have the plus version with ad-watch-can you disable this or not and if not ad-aware 2007 is going the way of the add/remove programs function
here's what winpatrol plus said –C:\PROGRAM FILES\LAVASOFT\AD-AWARE 2007\AAWSERVICE.EXE
Aawservice.exe installs with AdAware 2007. At the time of this writing, this product was still being beta tested. This program promises the highest level of protection against malicious spyware and malware including keyloggers, hijackers and downloaders. Lavasoft's CSI technology promises protection from both known and emerging threat variants and gives you real-time protection using the Ad-Watch real-time monitor. You'll find more information, support, and some handy FAQs at http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/faqs.php.
I killed the task(the Kill Task function does not delete the program file from your hard drive; it merely halts the program in memory)
using winpatrol and see what happens ::) :P
it reappears when i start ad-aware again-is that a safe way to do it or not ???
why is it running in the background in the first place :P
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Hi Dan,
Have sent you a PM with instruction in the case you have an additional Trojan downloaded.
This is just eating cycles. This is the predicament of the so-called total solutions it stalls computers.
Why did you download it so fast. It was just being announced. Do not react to every prompt a program
gives, but wait for others to report for eventual NAGS! In that case the proverb says: "The early bird catches the worm", but then literally... ;D
polonus
Click on the cat for weirdness...
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thanks i got you pm
i guess i could just uninstall the worm i caught :P
and the cat gif doesn't work when you click on it ??? ::)
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The new version seems to have a service in memory even when not running, like SuperAntiSpyware.
Looks like it might get the boot if I don't find a way to disable it.
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The same it true for AVG-AS it to has guard running even though it is non-resident, I stopped the service and set the service to Manual. That way I can start it (batch file with the Net Start "AVG Anti-Spyware Guard" command) you could use the same trick to start the service when you need it.
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as i told polonus in a couple of pm's davidr i uninstalled it(don't wanna mess with it)and ran a hijackthis and the ran it through a log analyzer and everything is ok i guess-so i got rid of the worm for good ::)
is there anything else i can do to be on the safe side ???
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Hi Dan,
Lesson learned here. Do not rush into things. Take a sip of the old waterpipe, and reconsider.
A secure OS wasn't built in one day, neither was Rome for that matter. And curiosity killed
the curious ( well ..I mean to say... the cat, which was animated beyond clicking!).
Too much things running in the background can consume your CPU, slow down or even stall
processes. But getting back to being serious now: download StartupList from Soeperman Enterprises Ltd here: http://castlecops.com/zx/Merijn/startuplist.zip , and analyze what is to start up automatically real deep, and whether you need some spurious proggie or executables to load at start-up. Very educating practice to explore. To analyze the processes go to CatleCops -StartupList. All's well that ends well,
Your friend Damian
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download StartupList from Soeperman Enterprises Ltd here: http://castlecops.com/zx/Merijn/startuplist.zip , and analyze what is to start up automatically real deep,
Damien,
Dan already has that option available within Winpatrol Plus which I know he has running.
Since the latest version of Ad-Aware monitors activity in the background, part of it must stay resident or that part wouldn't be functioning.
While a lot of you are sometimes over cautious, there are those of us who enjoy trying new
programs especially when they are from old, established and trusted friends. :)
Most of the time I'm one of those snatching up new versions as soon as they are released.
Since I didn't use the previous version of Ad-Aware, I saw no reason to download this one. ;D
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Hi bob3160,
But why is this a problem for our friend drhayden1? It is nothing unlikely for anti-spyware programs (the newer ones) to scan silently in the background. Same with COMODO BoClean, but this has not been a problem for a normal modern comp with enough CPU. Over-cautious is another attitude than installing an update right as it comes available. The Chinese who are now after Symantec also reacted immediately to an update. But it is always good to pre-scan before you download anything period. Better safe than sorry,
polonus
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thanks damian and bob-i have uninstalled it and as for the startup items i only have 8 using this http://www.sysinfo.org/startuplist.php
for instance my avast and spyware doctor and firewall and a few others and thats it :-[
winpatrol does a real good for what it does ;)
and i just didn't like ad-aware 2007 using around 30,000k in the background just being there ::) :P
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Hi Dan,
Been there, won a T-shirt? I wait with the next version of Ad-aware a bit.
Damian
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Been there,
been where ::) ???
ad-aware 2007 officially uninstalled :-*
nice moment in history for a new product 8)
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Hi bob3160,
But why is this a problem for our friend drhayden1? It is nothing unlikely for anti-spyware programs (the newer ones) to scan silently in the background. Same with COMODO BoClean, but this has not been a problem for a normal modern comp with enough CPU. Over-cautious is another attitude than installing an update right as it comes available. The Chinese who are now after Symantec also reacted immediately to an update. But it is always good to pre-scan before you download anything period. Better safe than sorry,
polonus
Ad-aware free is not scanning silently. Then why 30K on background??
I unistalled it.
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good and some bad reviews on download.com http://www.download.com/Ad-Aware-2007/3000-8022_4-10045910.html?tag=bubble
but no one is mentioning the usage of memory in background ??? ::)
aren't they looking or just don't know :P
click on pic to supersize ::)
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Since the new version has only been released, virtually all of those reviews will relate to AdAware SE Personal. Whilst the Download is now called 'Ad-Aware 2007' it would appear its previous ratting and comments have been brought forward.
There is no way there would be 5115 votes since the release of Ad-Aware 2007, prehaps that is why there is no mention of background activity/memory use.
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the page i looked at davidr had only 6 reviews on it for ad-aware 2007 not for the older personnel one
5 of the 6 8) wish they would of left the old version alone :-X
Pros: This new version of adaware finds more spyware and adware then ever before. Prettier interface, More friendly, and it does the job for me :)
Cons: This version has a new bug. It deleted all my cookies without my knowledge. This has never happened before, with other versions of adaware. And I had to reenter all my passwords again My advice: Download at your own risk
I'll stick with the old version
Pros: It's probably great, but doesn't work on Vista.
Cons: Program crashes before you finish.
Good but still obtuse
Pros: Does a thorough scan of what are probably the most significant threat areas of my computer -- even on "quick scan." Somewhat nicer interface. It seems a bit faster than the previous version.
Cons: Threat descriptions are not helpful. AA found 2 registry entries flagged as "3" on their TAI scale. But gave no help as to what these were, why they were suspicious, etc. No help in the right-click menu either. It will catch numerous cookies, not all of them are threatening, however, so be careful what you delete (especially the 1st time -- mark your keepers on your ignore list).
Does not work on Vista.
Pros: I'm a big fan of Ad-Adare, but this one is not ready for prime time.
Cons: Does not work on Vista. Maybe it's not supposed to but I thought that was one of the goals. Scan runs but program terminates at end of scan before results can be reviewed. Also, when I uninstalled it, it completely REMOVED my paid Ad-Aware SE Plus that I had been running sucessfully for a year! THANKS LAVASOFT!
Pros: Great improvement on the interface and perfomance. I've notice that uses less system resources. I've always trusted AdAware to get the job done.
Cons: None so far!
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Thanks for the reviews, it more or less confirms my original point, I don't think it is ready yet and stick with the SE Personal version for a little time.
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but i guess the SE Personal version won't update anylonger unless you want the ad-aware memory eater in background 2007 ::)
and just posted this in the castlecops ad-aware section of the forum....
http://www.castlecops.com/forums.html
drh1
Location: USA
Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: 30,000k in background
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i installed ad-adware 2007 free yesterday and notice in my task manager processes it was taking on the average of 30,000K in memory usage without being on-why is this so-this is the free version and is just a scanner not on realtime like ad-aware plus with ad-watch-can i disable it when not being used or what is the reason for the memory usage
not saying i already uninstalled it...just seeing if i get an answer...probably no luck on the ad-aware forum if ever ::)
also posted the same there ::) http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/index.php?showforum=1
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Don't hold your breath for a response on the lavasoftsupport.com forum, I'v now been waiting 14 days and not a single response.
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who knows davidr-i could get lucky(yeah!right) :P
and i answered your thread in the ad-aware forum ;D
at least someone answered ::)
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The 30M memory belongs to the adwserivce (the name of the process may not be precise but close). This service is because ADware 2007 offers a new function, "scan in the start-up". However, this service will be activated no matter whether you launch this function.
One way to release memory is to change the setting in the "service" through the control panel. Change the setting from automatic to manual. In this case, this service will still be activated when you launch the ADware 2007. When you finish scan and close this application, you can stop this services from the control panel.
Hope this can help.
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its aawservice.exe and could i just use the kill task function in winpatrol to stop the process until i need to scan with ad-aware again ???
One way to release memory is to change the setting in the "service" through the control panel. Change the setting from automatic to manual.
cannot find that :P
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Killing the task in winpatrol wouldn't stop it starting automatically on the next boot.
Type services.msc in the windows Start, Run window and look for the aawservice, stop it and then set it to manual.
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i stopped it davidr-just do this each thing after i run a scan to turn it off ???
and look at this http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/index.php?showtopic=9476&st=0&#entry43222
http://www.castlecops.com/t191895-30_000k_in_background.html
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As pointed out at the CastleCops forum, other anti-spyware products do leave services running even when installed as on-demand scanners.
SUPERAntiSpyware Free was the worst offender for me. Although it's a good spyware remover, I never get spyware, so keeping it installed just hogged resources.
a-Squared has a service running, but resource usage is minimal- a2service.exe 440K.
AVG Anti-Spyware Free usually has guard.exe running, although I can't see it today. Again, resource usage is pretty minimal. This is the explanation for why the service has to run continually:
The Guard.exe checks for example the Windows host file for suspicious entries
that would deny the update of the AVG AntiSpyware. The Guard process should
not be terminated.
http://forum.grisoft.cz/freeforum/read.php?9,89884,90153 (http://forum.grisoft.cz/freeforum/read.php?9,89884,90153)
I suggest that for those who do get the occasional spyware infection, leaving the service running might make sense. For those of us who don't, it perhaps doesn't make any sense.
I imagine having more than one on-demand scanner with a large background service running is going to have some negative effect on performance, so perhaps having Ad-Aware Free and SUPERAntiSpyware Free installed together is something to advise against.
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you know FwF my friend-i could understand maybe 5-10,000K running in the background-could live with that-but why a hogging amount of 30,000 and its the free version not the plus where the realtime requires some background.
for now i have been killing the task with winpatrol plus or run-services.msc and stop it when its not started and scanning and if i get tired of doing this bs for much longer unless ad-aware 2007 does something about it after all the complaints its probably getting it will go the way of the add/remove programs for good one more time and for the last time(2md install-i know polonus the curious side of me got to me again) ::) ???
click on fan-its animated ::)
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Ad-Aware has been criticised here for poor malware removal; SUPERAntiSpyware is praised a lot for its malware removal rate. I guess it's a case of damned if you don't, and damned if you do. SUPERAntiSpyware leaves a whacking great service running, yet nobody objects. If the new Ad-Aware has the same sort of removal success, maybe the program will deserve some praise. Like SUPERAntiSpyware, it may no longer be a program to keep around if you like a lean, mean machine, but that might not be a bad thing if it can remove more infections.
Haven't decided whether to keep it: just killing the aawservice.exe in Task Manager for now.
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Hi FwF and drhayden1,
Why don't you download Hitman Pro then, a complete anti ad/spy-ware Windows XP shell program with all the goodies (Ad-Aware etc. included) on board. Run it occasionally, clear (delete) it from your machine, because of the trial proggies there, and reinstall the fresh version once you want a cleansing routine the next time. Firms to do that on a regular basis charge you 80 bucks an inspection for that. It is just an idea for the CPU aware here. http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu7zjnWpGnLYAGWJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB2cGpzZHNxBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2UEdnRpZAMEbANXUzE-/SIG=12a6984fa/EXP=1181478755/**http%3a//www.techspot.com/downloads/1278-hitman-pro.html
polonus
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@ Dan (cc FWF)
You would be better served by setting the service to Manual after you stopped it using services.msc, so it never starts and start it when required.
I use a batch file (for starting the AVG service) in my C:\ folder and a shortcut in the taskbar quick launch to start it only when required.
Create a file called 'StartAawSvc.bat' (or any name .bat you feel like) using notepad or your favourite text editor. There is only one line of text e.g. Net Start "AVG Anti-Spyware Guard" the text between the " " is the Service Name (copy from the Services window) it must have the quotes around the Service name, save the file, create a shortcut and your done.
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i already have full version of spyware doctor as my realtime and i have spyware blaster in the background and i use cwshredder on occasion so there is no need for hitman pro davidr since probably most of them are trialware....
and thanks davidr and FwF for the advise...will probably just kill the task in winpatrol since that is the same as services.msc for the time being making up my mind in time whether i want to keep ad-aware giving me a headache 2007 pain in the computer memory background piece of software ::) :P
i know whenever i had to reboot it auto.starts so i have to kill the task when i reboot until i do the manual thing unless i do the add/remove thing first :-*
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Unless you can set the service to manual in winpatrol it will be back on the next boot, unless you are killing it completely and that is I believe unwise. Even if you are able to set it to manual you have no quick way to start it when you do need it.
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i'm not gonna worry about it anymore davidr my friend ;D
its going the way of the add/remove programs-its has been a headache for the last day or so and you and i have better things to do then a piece of software that shouldn't have the thing its doing and guess no reply in your false positive thread in the ad-aware forum(except from me)
soon as i hit the post tab below ad-aware 2007 is HISTORY 8) :o ::)
edited and updated-it's GONE ;D
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my short and sweet review of ad-aware no-where on here anymore 2007 on download.com
http://www.download.com/Ad-Aware-2007/9499-8022_4-10695895.html?pn=4&sb=0&v=0 3rd one down....
click on pic to supersize ::)
nice price :o
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here's what winpatrol plus said –C:\PROGRAM FILES\LAVASOFT\AD-AWARE 2007\AAWSERVICE.EXE
I killed the task(the Kill Task function does not delete the program file from your hard drive; it merely halts the program in memory)
'Killing' with WinPatrol will set the service to 'disable' mode. Not a file will be detected, only the service won't start.
I haven't tested the new version of Ad-aware yet. I'll post later what we 'lose' when the service is disabled...
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Testing ad-aware, the service could be disabled or set to manual.
You will only lost: resident shield, scheduled scannings and updates.
Neither of these features are present in the free version. Indeed, it would be good, in the free version, does not even install the service in my opinion.
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The Ad-Aware 2007 service has been updated today to version 7.0.1.4. Get the component update using Ad-Aware 2007 Update Manager:
aawservice.exe is located in the default directory of Ad-Aware 2007:
from the ad-aware forum....
What is the use of aawservice.exe ?
aawservice.exe is the executable file that is the heart of the AAW2007 engine. Current malware operates at the kernel level, or even as rootkits, so to fight those you have to be at the same level they are. You can't get to the kernel level from the API, it requires the use of services and drivers.
Why does it is installed and ran automatically when I install Ad-Aware 2007 Free Edition ?
The free (Personal) edition uses the same engine as the Plus and Pro, just has some features turned off.
Why when I close Ad-Aware 2007 this service keeps running ?
See answer 2 above. Additionally, it is easier for malware to stop a service from starting than stop one that is already running.
Why when I stop and disable this service, then launch Ad-Aware 2007 I get an error message ?
As explained above, aawservice.exe is the executable for AAW2007. When you disable the service you disable the application.
Okay, if you don't want the service running in the background then you will either have to control the service manually or select a different product. If you decide on the latter then you will want to avoid such things as NOD32, Counterspy, Sunbelt Personal Firewall, or a² Antimalware just to name a few
http://www.lavasoftsupport.com/index.php?showtopic=9893 and the problem is being worked on....
http://000file.googlepages.com/aawsevice.html watch this video on how to set to manual ;)
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Looks like it might get the boot if I don't find a way to disable it.
Set it to manual and it will be load just when you start Ad-aware.
is there anything else i can do to be on the safe side ???
I'm not following you... what do you mean?
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Set it to manual and it will be load just when you start Ad-aware.
already reinstalled it and did just like the video(in my above post) and soon whenever they said they will have the issue resolved
is there anything else i can do to be on the safe side
nevermind that tech ;D