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Title: new user
Post by: fakeMacGyver on February 29, 2004, 03:24:30 AM
I have previously discovered & used the home version. Recently, with as new computer, I wanted to install the software again.  At the page, I just read:

"avast! 4 Pro detected all ItW viruses (i.e. viruses known to be 'in the wild')".

I don't recall seeing anything about the home version receiving the award. Can somebody tell me: is it really a less-safe version or can the notice be attributed to both versions? I am using XP.

Title: Re:new user
Post by: radicalb21 on February 29, 2004, 03:42:32 AM
Hey FakeMacgyver,
         It's radicalb21. First let me say welcome to the forum. I will attempt to answer to answer your question. First take a look at the following link:

http://www.avast.com/i_idt_1018.html

The above link shows you the differences between the HOME VERSION AND PRO VERSION. The biggest differences between HOME & PRO are the enhanced user interface, and script blocker. There are other differences as well and they are very minor. Both the HOME & PRO version use the same scan engine and have the same capabilities.
Title: Re:new user
Post by: John- on February 29, 2004, 11:50:57 AM
The Home Edition is pretty safe,...the Professional Edition has more advanced options. But the level of antivirus-detection is the same.
Title: Re:new user
Post by: RejZoR on February 29, 2004, 12:19:09 PM
Welcome to forums ;)

HOME:
-Simple GUI only
-Interval update check
-Basic settings

PRO:
-Simple & Enhanced GUI
-PUSH system update
-Script Blocking
-On-Access Packed files scanning capability
-Advanced settings
-On virus found predefined actions (Clean,Move to Chest,Delete...)
-Task scheduling

Both have the same scanning capability except On-Access packed files scanning which is only in PRO.
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Lisandro on February 29, 2004, 03:10:18 PM
I'm proud of all of you... Everybody knows everything about avast!  ;)
Wellcome to the family...  ;D
Title: Re:new user
Post by: fakeMacGyver on February 29, 2004, 09:55:43 PM
Thanks for your help. Although it is probably easy to understand, could someone tell me more about 'on-access packed files scanning capability' in the Pro version? Does this mean that, in the Home version, a packed file won't even be scanned if I attempt to execute it (and I would have to scan each file normally beforehand)? If so, of course, that would be dangerous & I should go 'Pro'.
Title: Re:new user
Post by: RejZoR on February 29, 2004, 10:01:15 PM
Well Home Edition scanes packed files too,but its limited only to executable packagers like UPX,ASPack,ASProtect and so on. Packed (compressed) files like ZIP,RAR,CAB won't be scanned by On-Access module in Home Editon. Actually you don't need to worry,because when you run the file from archive it needs to be extracted first,and when its extracted,avast! on-access detects it in TEMP folder (usually). You can scan inside ZIP,RAR,CAB and so on with Explorer extension command (right click on file and Scan)
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Lisandro on March 01, 2004, 12:13:31 AM
Well Home Edition scanes packed files too,but its limited only to executable packagers like UPX,ASPack,ASProtect and so on. Packed (compressed) files like ZIP,RAR,CAB won't be scanned by On-Access module in Home Editon. Actually you don't need to worry,because when you run the file from archive it needs to be extracted first,and when its extracted,avast! on-access detects it in TEMP folder (usually). You can scan inside ZIP,RAR,CAB and so on with Explorer extension command (right click on file and Scan)

I could be wrong with the new updates but definetivelly the scan capability of Home and Pro version were the same. Not even a difference with packers... At least, that was what Igor and pk said in the near past... I can be wrong, but the differences between the two versions aren't at the scanning and protecting capability. Except, of course, the Script Blocker. Hope this help. If not, somebody correct me  :P
Title: Re:new user
Post by: igor on March 01, 2004, 09:49:13 AM
I believe RejZor was saying that you cannot change the default task settings for the resident protection in the Home version (you don't have the Enhanced User Interface to edit the resident protection task) - and by default, it doesn't have the scanning of archives (like ZIP, RAR, ...) turned on - which is true.
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Vlk on March 01, 2004, 10:14:30 AM
...but there is a workaround...
If you do a suitable search on this forum, you may actually find something....hint, hint ;D
Title: Re:new user
Post by: maleas on March 01, 2004, 12:36:51 PM
...but there is a workaround...
If you do a suitable search on this forum, you may actually find something....hint, hint ;D
I've searched and searched and searched... :) Feel quite dizzy actually, since I think I've tried quite a few possible searches for the issue. No success though.

So, would you please (pretty please :) ) provide a direct link for the information? I have just installed the 4.1 Home edition and on-access scanning within packed files is definitely needed.

TIA.-
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Lisandro on March 01, 2004, 01:52:52 PM
Vlk, would the hint be a list of extensions for adding into the Standard Shield options?

If so, here it is:

On open: WS?,VBS,VBE,JS,JSE,HTA,WSF,WSH,SHS,SHB,HTM*
Created and modified: ACE,ARC,ARJ,BZIP2,CAB,COM,GZIP,PST,RAR,TAR,ZIP,ZOO,ECE
Title: Re:new user
Post by: RejZoR on March 01, 2004, 03:21:13 PM
Doesn't work for compressed archives (ZIP,RAR,CAB...),i have already tried in Home Version :P
Title: Re:new user
Post by: igor on March 01, 2004, 03:32:24 PM
What exactly doesn't work, regarding the archives?
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Vlk on March 01, 2004, 03:33:12 PM
OK, OK, here's the thread: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=15

But don't tell anyone ;D
Title: Re:new user
Post by: RejZoR on March 01, 2004, 03:41:25 PM
Hihi ;D
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Lisandro on March 01, 2004, 04:46:17 PM
Doesn't work for compressed archives (ZIP,RAR,CAB...), i have already tried in Home Version :P

Are you saying that if I run a scanning through this files I won't have the same results as in the Professional version?
Title: Re:new user
Post by: RejZoR on March 01, 2004, 05:26:05 PM
Nope,i tested with EICAR file and it was only detected when not inside ZIP archive (Home Edition). Pro Edition detects inside ZIP and other common archives too.
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Lisandro on March 01, 2004, 08:05:08 PM
Nope,i tested with EICAR file and it was only detected when not inside ZIP archive (Home Edition). Pro Edition detects inside ZIP and other common archives too.

This should be warned in the webpage (differences between the Home and Pro version)!
Maybe I have not notice that because I use the Pro version  :-[
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Vlk on March 01, 2004, 08:14:55 PM
There is no difference. The only difference is that in the Pro version, you can edit the Resident task (to add archive scanning to it) in the Enhanced UI. In the Home version, you obviously can't as there's no Enhanced UI.

What's unclear about this?
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Lisandro on March 01, 2004, 11:34:20 PM
What's unclear about this?

For me nothing...
Definetivelly the scan capability of Home and Pro version were the same as I wrote before but some doubts appear due to the related situation of RejZor...: I tested with EICAR file and it was only detected when not inside ZIP archive (Home Edition). Pro Edition detects inside ZIP and other common archives too.
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Vlk on March 01, 2004, 11:37:26 PM
Yes, but only if he turned on archive scanning in the Resident tasks settings (in avast Enhanced UI).
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Lisandro on March 02, 2004, 12:00:35 AM
Yes, but only if he turned on archive scanning in the Resident tasks settings (in avast Enhanced UI).

Do you mean packer's settings? Why you use 'archive'?
Btw, when you choose 'all packers' the options bellow remain unchecked... I suppose they will scanned as well...
Title: Re:new user
Post by: RejZoR on March 02, 2004, 07:03:34 AM
Archives are ZIP,RAR,CAB,ACE files,application packers are UPX,ASPack and so on(you probably know this already ;) ). The second ones are scanned by Home version too,but for first one we already said how it works.
Yeah if you select "All packers" than even unchecked options below get scanned.
Title: Re:new user
Post by: maleas on March 02, 2004, 07:04:41 AM
OK, OK, here's the thread: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=15
A million thanks! :D

Quote
But don't tell anyone ;D
My lips are sealed  :-X
Title: Re:new user
Post by: RejZoR on March 02, 2004, 07:11:11 AM
Hehe this is a secret that no one suppose to talk about ;)  :-X
Title: Re:new user
Post by: fakeMacGyver on March 05, 2004, 12:21:41 AM
Thanks to everyone for helping me understand the software better. I really like 'avast!'  :)
Title: Re:new user
Post by: faffy on March 06, 2004, 12:45:30 PM
Yes, but only if he turned on archive scanning in the Resident tasks settings (in avast Enhanced UI).

Does archive scanning slow the computer down considerably?

Is it recommended?

Faffy
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Lisandro on March 06, 2004, 01:00:50 PM
Yes, but only if he turned on archive scanning in the Resident tasks settings (in avast Enhanced UI).

Does archive scanning slow the computer down considerably?
Is it recommended?

Faffy

Depends!
It really slows the computer but you can run the scanning while you are not using it (screen saver module, for instance). The application must 'unpack' the archive file and scan the files. If the archive is big the computer will be stressed in some way...

But you have to enable it at least to be sure that no one file that already is infected. If you do not have RAM problems and your system has some power, you should enable the high protection (at least when you are on-line).
Title: Re:new user
Post by: faffy on March 06, 2004, 01:12:50 PM
I talked about on-access scanning, not on-demand scanning. I don't care how much it takes to scan my hard drives during my weekly virus scans, because it is done at nights. My question was regarding to if I enable archive scanning in the on-access module. For example, if I remember correctly Kaspersky warns you if one enables certain scanning features the computer  could suffer considerable performance problems.

Faffy
Title: Re:new user
Post by: Lisandro on March 06, 2004, 04:23:38 PM
I talked about on-access scanning, not on-demand scanning. I don't care how much it takes to scan my hard drives during my weekly virus scans, because it is done at nights. My question was regarding to if I enable archive scanning in the on-access module. For example, if I remember correctly Kaspersky warns you if one enables certain scanning features the computer  could suffer considerable performance problems.

Faffy

Faffy, the same behavior will occour at on-access scanning... You will have a lack of resources but you must choose the optimal point: resources and protection runs one against the other  8)