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Title: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: savarona on August 22, 2007, 08:56:25 PM
Details (German)
http://blog.chip.de/0-security-blog/microsoft-verbessert-seinen-virenscanner-20070821

avast beat nod32...Go avast go  :)

(http://blog.chip.de/0-security-blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/anti-virus-test-2007.png)

Title: Re: Av-test.org (NeW)
Post by: DavidR on August 22, 2007, 09:06:35 PM
Nice to see AVK 2007 top of the heap as it uses two engines, avast & Kaspersky ;D

Nice result though, room for improvement.
Title: Re: Av-test.org (NeW)
Post by: davidpr on August 22, 2007, 11:48:18 PM
Vey good result but was this the Home version or the paid version.
Title: Re: Av-test.org (NeW)
Post by: DavidR on August 23, 2007, 01:21:53 AM
There should be little difference as they both use the same scanning engine and signatures. The only possible difference being the Script Blocking of the Pro version.
Title: Re: Av-test.org (NeW)
Post by: Lisandro on August 23, 2007, 03:32:31 AM
Vey good result but was this the Home version or the paid version.
As David said... it won't have a difference on detection rate.

Another reason to prefer BitDefender as a second opinion (non-resident scanner) than Antivir.
Title: Re: Av-test.org result (21.08.2007)
Post by: savarona on August 23, 2007, 04:08:32 PM
AVK 2007 uses avast and kaspersky engine but I cannot find this anywhere on AVK 2007 website  ??? Has anyone found an english trial of 2007 AVK?
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Lisandro on August 23, 2007, 05:39:54 PM
Unfortunately there is no English trial.
You'll have to do with a German version.
This is reported here: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=169077
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: cvsa on August 23, 2007, 06:28:03 PM
or french ...

http://www.gs2i.fr/gdata/gdata_antivirus_avk_2007.htm
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Rafel on August 23, 2007, 06:35:45 PM
AVK 2007
Two engines? a lot of resources usage. No, thanks.
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: DavidR on August 23, 2007, 06:44:03 PM
Do you know that it uses a lot of resources or is this just speculation because of the fact there are two engines ???

Effectively it would be little different that two separate but resident scanners (1 AnitVirus, 1AntiSpyware), however I would imagine (speculation I know) there would be a deal of optimisation so these work well together without a heavy hit on system resources.
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on August 23, 2007, 09:53:34 PM
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Andreas’ results haven’t received that much attention, except for a few publications: PCWelt, VirusBulletin, and Security.nl.

So with the permission of Andreas, I’m publishing a more comprehensive look at the results.

First, some (slightly edited) commentary from Andreas:

http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/latest-virus-testing-results.html (http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/latest-virus-testing-results.html)
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Dwarden on August 24, 2007, 12:07:47 AM
avast! needs just 3 more percents for ideal spot :) ... hehe :)
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: DavidR on August 24, 2007, 12:26:15 AM
Its that last little bit that is the hardest to attain ;D
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: JerryM on August 29, 2007, 02:21:39 AM
Although I cannot read German, it appears that AVG Anti-malware was the one tested since it seems to refer to Ewido anti-spyware as a part of it.
When that is included AVG is excellent, but the free version does not do nearly as well, and not as well as Avast Home.

Regards,
Jerry
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: cool jay on August 29, 2007, 03:21:22 PM
 ;)Hi all
new boy on the block
just moved from avg free and left norton after a few nasty trojans and a windows xp recovery disk.
avg free does not have the anti malware and if you download the antimalware which is very good you do not have real time protection after 30 days !!! ???
Real time protection is needed ;D
I would agree that avast is good so far and Having had problems with avg in that it could not remove some nasties and it is all kept in the virus vault.
The avcomparatives august test results due soon should be a good read and i hope avast does well .
As for norton well why do so many new computers come with it !!!!
well done avast and keep up the good work and when will we see tests for all free antivirus companies? :'(
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: IBK on August 29, 2007, 11:03:34 PM
also at av-comparatives avg anti-malware is tested. like someone said above, avg anti-malware scores quite much better than avg without ewido. i guess (= i do not know for sure, but it is very probably) avast would score better than avg free.
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Lisandro on August 30, 2007, 04:38:52 AM
just moved from avg free and left norton after a few nasty trojans and a windows xp recovery disk.
As for norton well why do so many new computers come with it !!!!
I've just removed a shareware version of Symantec products of my new notebook. No thanks, not even day 1.
The uninstall tools asked me: are you sure you want to lose the 60 day trial period. I did not hesitate.
Now Comodo (beta 3) and avast are running.
I'm an ex AVG and ex Norton. Shame on me, but I learned.
Welcome to avast forums.
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: JerryM on August 31, 2007, 12:08:59 AM
Overall results from AV Comparatives are on the site. There are no percentages, just the overall ratings.
Sorry to say that Avast did not do as well as most others including AVGAM, but did again obtain an Advanced rating.
However, it is still a very good application, and I would not change if it has been satisfactory on my system.

Best,
Jerry
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: DavidR on August 31, 2007, 12:24:20 AM
I don't see anything on the site for a recent test, the last being May 2007 Retrospective/ProActive Test, No link for Aug 2007, still listed as coming soon.

Edit: Just saw the overview images, I will be nice to see the full report.
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: JerryM on August 31, 2007, 12:27:59 AM
Hi David,
Go to the Comparatives link and scroll down until you are just above "Notebook Hardware Control." There you will find the link for the overview as "You...find them here."

Best,
Jerry
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: IBK on August 31, 2007, 12:28:46 AM
Avast is on the right way - it improved further, but it was not enough to get A+ already this time.

report with results will be posted in 24 hours.
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: DavidR on August 31, 2007, 12:31:32 AM
Thanks Andreas.
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Maxx_original on August 31, 2007, 12:34:08 PM
hello Andreas, nice to see you here ;).. some important tasks should be done until the february test will be realized and hopefully we'll reach a better score..
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Lisandro on August 31, 2007, 01:41:55 PM
hello Andreas, nice to see you here ;).. some important tasks should be done until the february test will be realized and hopefully we'll reach a better score..
Maxx, will be the avast version 5 release before Feburary 2008?
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Maxx_original on August 31, 2007, 03:51:41 PM
Tech: i don't know any official release dates.. but what can i say now is: new poly module detects 25 groups of file infectors, worms and malware scramblers/cryptors and will grow up in near future... this module was released after Clementi's test date, so the last comparatives aren't as good as expected, but all the benefits of systematic work should come starting with next comparatives... somebody maybe think that we're too slow, but for illustration: on 2005 was the daily count of unique files sent to virtotal around 500 files, on 2005 it was ~1000 files and on 2007 it was ~3600 files in average... the 2007's maximum is near 15000 files per day... as you can see, malware authors don't want to give us much time ;D.. i guess Andreas also uses virtotal as one of his sources of samples, so our priorities will be targetted to his set and to virtotal (and of course to virus[at]avast[dot]com and this forum ;) )..
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: JerryM on August 31, 2007, 06:18:54 PM
Hi Maxx,
That sounds great and I ,like a lot of others, am eager to see its introduction.
Regards,
Jerry
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Lisandro on September 01, 2007, 03:55:04 AM
Thanks Maxx for your info.
It's a pity that there isn't any official release dates scheduled... I know Pavel hates scheduling.
We the users, like them 8)
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: DavidR on September 01, 2007, 04:17:43 AM
I'm doing some reading between the lines of a couple of posts here and possibly getting cross-eyed ;D

Well if they are going to have the new poly module included for any improvement in the February av-comparitives tests then it would have to be in a regular release of avast pro. So I would suspect that it would have to be released to beta testing some reasonable time before a regular program update. So perhaps we might have something to look forward to towards the end of the year.
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Lisandro on September 01, 2007, 04:19:34 AM
So perhaps we might have something to look forward to towards the end of the year.
This is what I was waiting for... hoping for.
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: DavidR on September 01, 2007, 04:26:00 AM
Yes we had better keep it between us ;D wouldn't want to get Maxx in trouble for letting the cat out of the bag ;D
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Vlk on September 01, 2007, 09:57:03 AM
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It's a pity that there isn't any official release dates scheduled... I know Pavel hates scheduling.

I don't know what Pavel has to do with this, but our experience shows that it is not wise to disclose any fixed schedules unless we're sure we can actually meet them. I.e. if I now tell you that avast 5.0 will be released on XX.XX.XXXX, and eventually we will find out that the estimate was too optimistic, it's just embarassing and generally does no good.

All I can say for now is that we're aiming for H1 2008. Please note that avast 5 will be a huge change (on almost all fronts) and so needs a lot of development time. What I can promise is that once we have some bits that we feel would be worth some external testing, you'll be the first to know.

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Well if they are going to have the new poly module included for any improvement in the February av-comparitives tests then it would have to be in a regular release of avast pro. So I would suspect that it would have to be released to beta testing some reasonable time before a regular program update. So perhaps we might have something to look forward to towards the end of the year.

What Maxx said is that the new poly engine has already shipped (in one of the August VPS updates) and that they're constantly working on improving it. Regarding any "betas" of these, I just can't imagine people testing these new features (to do any reasonable testing, you'd need adequate collections of polymorphic viruses - which I doubt you guys do... ;)).

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: news on September 01, 2007, 12:48:53 PM
Thanks for the update Vlk. I'm so very patient...no problems on my end.

I've used so many different kinds of antivirus software..with disappointment I might add. :(

I truly like your software...my pc likes it too. I'm getting in the back of the line with everyone else and looking forward to the finished product. I'm confident enough to know you and your team are doing your best to bring out the best in avast! I look forward to the changes as they will probably greatly enhance an already good product.

As Superman said in Superman Returns....I'm always around..... :)
Title: Re: Av-test.org results (21.08.2007)
Post by: Lisandro on September 01, 2007, 02:12:23 PM
I don't know what Pavel has to do with this
Not with avast releases itself, but he hates scheduling... just that.

All I can say for now is that we're aiming for H1 2008. Please note that avast 5 will be a huge change (on almost all fronts) and so needs a lot of development time. What I can promise is that once we have some bits that we feel would be worth some external testing, you'll be the first to know.
Thanks. As I've wrote before, nobody is pressing to know the exactly date. I've told about 2008 because somebody, maybe you yourself, have already said that.