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Title: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: ciprian.horge on November 30, 2021, 02:10:31 PM
Hi, all. Please welcome the newest version of Avast AV: 21.10 (21.10.2498)
Major public announcement:
Other notable improvements in the release:
Another great release thanks to some great people, thank you to the whole team!
How to install:
1. Update from your existing Avast version via Settings -> Update -> Update program
2. Or you can download and install files:
Online installers (recommended):
Offline installers:

(In case the hyperlink here wouldn't work in your browser, just paste and copy the URL to the browser address bar)
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: NON on November 30, 2021, 02:23:22 PM
New release :)

Thank you Avast team!
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on November 30, 2021, 02:25:40 PM
Thanks, spreading the news... 8)
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: loungehake on November 30, 2021, 03:11:41 PM
New firewall? How? It's not been offered to my installation. The Protection section of theAvast  UI shows a green padlock for the firewall.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Mr. Consumer on November 30, 2021, 03:32:39 PM
I also can't access Firewall. It's enabled but can't access it. Even got the notifaction about Private/Public network.
Tried removing and re-adding the Firewall component and repair app but still no change  >:(
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: DavidR on November 30, 2021, 03:52:55 PM
Whilst this is welcome news on the firewall being included in avast free (though some finding that isn't the case), but a couple of questions.

1. How does the avast firewall component behave if a user already has a 3rd party firewall installed ?

2. If the user is only using the win10 firewall, how does Windows react to the firewall component being installed ?
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Mr. Consumer on November 30, 2021, 03:54:31 PM
BTW, for those who have got the firewall in the free version, is there a way to manually add apps into the firewall? Or is everything automatic with the user having no control over adding apps, like I saw when Avast One first came out.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Nunzio77 on November 30, 2021, 03:55:34 PM
Whilst this is welcome news on the firewall being included in avast free (though some finding that isn't the case), but a couple of questions.

1. How does the avast firewall component behave if a user already has a 3rd party firewall installed ?

2. If the user is only using the win10 firewall, how does Windows react to the firewall component being installed ?

Point 2:
In my previous experience it automatically disabled the Windows one.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Michael529 on November 30, 2021, 04:44:34 PM
Whilst this is welcome news on the firewall being included in avast free (though some finding that isn't the case), but a couple of questions.

1. How does the avast firewall component behave if a user already has a 3rd party firewall installed ?

2. If the user is only using the win10 firewall, how does Windows react to the firewall component being installed ?

Can I add another question?
What benefit to users is there from using the Avast free firewall rather than the Windows 10 firewall?
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: abruptum on November 30, 2021, 05:15:16 PM
I can't save settings anymore. Button doesn't work.
Also I can't restore settings.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on November 30, 2021, 05:29:03 PM
I can't save settings anymore. Button doesn't work.
Also I can't restore settings.
Confirmed. And I may add, that it was reported during beta-testing... ::)
https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=308097.msg1664851#msg1664851
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: I.S. on November 30, 2021, 11:19:18 PM
Thanks. I do have just detail. Summary window contains strange coding of Czech language, see att.
(http://)
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: DavidR on December 01, 2021, 12:03:40 AM
Thanks. I do have just detail. Summary window contains strange coding of Czech language, see att.
(http://)

Nothing attached !
Use the Attachments and other options below the text input window, click to expand.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: TheOwner on December 01, 2021, 12:17:36 AM
Hi, what is new "Avast Tools" service and why in Action center on Win 7 is still old logo?

Avast break Nal service on Win 7 64bit, after each PC boot this error appear in Windows Event manager(Avast Firewall not installed).
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: InvisibleMan on December 01, 2021, 01:28:45 AM
Second release in the row I'll have to skip for now...  :(

1. Judging by the commenters here, Firewall is forced upon users, disabling the default Windows Firewall (which I personally prefer to use instead of Avast's one), giving no way to disable Firewall in Avast Free, if it's not needed, apparently.

2. Despite various reports over the past month, even during beta testing in its thread, broken Export / Restore settings feature.

Bust most importantly, Firewall must be possible to disable.

Otherwise for people who prefer other Firewalls (including Window's Default one) Avast becomes unusable.

I like my Windows 7 Firewall just fine, and I have many rules there I have no wish to re-create for Avast, even if I did want to use it (which I don't).

Avast break Nal service on Win 7 64bit, after each PC boot this error appear in Windows Event manager(Avast Firewall not installed).
Oh yes, this report from the post right above mine, again, doesn't increase my confidence into the new Avast update.

I'm scared to update, because I see it will break everything on my computer that works just fine now.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Mr. Consumer on December 01, 2021, 08:19:58 AM
I had to uninstall and reinstall the product to get the Firewall.
But this Firewall doen't have the option to manually add programs to it to create my rules. This is such a shame. Adding apps is the most basic feature of any Firewall. It doesn't matter that it's free. So core functionality wise it's even worse than Windows Firewall.
Second release in the row I'll have to skip for now...  :(

1. Judging by the commenters here, Firewall is forced upon users, disabling the default Windows Firewall (which I personally prefer to use instead of Avast's one), giving no way to disable Firewall in Avast Free, if it's not needed, apparently.

2. Despite various reports over the past month, even during beta testing in its thread, broken Export / Restore settings feature.

Bust most importantly, Firewall must be possible to disable.

Otherwise for people who prefer other Firewalls (including Window's Default one) Avast becomes unusable.

I like my Windows 7 Firewall just fine, and I have many rules there I have no wish to re-create for Avast, even if I did want to use it (which I don't).

Avast break Nal service on Win 7 64bit, after each PC boot this error appear in Windows Event manager(Avast Firewall not installed).
Oh yes, this report from the post right above mine, again, doesn't increase my confidence into the new Avast update.

I'm scared to update, because I see it will break everything on my computer that works just fine now.
Don't worry. The Firewall is not forced. You can remove the Firewall component after the update or decide to not install during a fresh installation. So if you prefer Windows Firewall, then you can keep using that with Avast.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: dwh on December 01, 2021, 09:07:21 AM
I'll probably wait until I can get an offline installer with an unbroken Export /Restore settings feature, which may mean skipping 21.10 entirely.  I have a hardware firewall and don't think additional software ones add any value; I don't try to disable the Windows firewall only because I figure Windows is more likely to screw up deviations from its assumptions, and the cost in wasted memory and processing cycles is likely pretty insignificant.

-dwh
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Nunzio77 on December 01, 2021, 09:24:14 AM
After updating the version and installing the firewall, the "Windows Security" icon no longer appears. (see attached image).
Why?

Solve ... >:( >:( >:(

Windows 10 Pro Edition
Version 21H1
Installation date: 01/07/2020
Operating system build 19043.1348
Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.3920.0 experience
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: ee950657 on December 01, 2021, 11:12:00 AM
After I upgraded to this version, Internet Explorer became unusable :'(
Please fix it as soon as possible.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: NON on December 01, 2021, 11:49:48 AM
After I upgraded to this version, Internet Explorer became unusable :'(
Please fix it as soon as possible.
Confirmed, will report to the devs soon
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: PDI on December 01, 2021, 02:22:15 PM
Hi,

we'd release an uUpdate to fix the iexplore issue probably tomorrow.

Regards,
PDI
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on December 01, 2021, 03:26:17 PM
After updating the version and installing the firewall, the "Windows Security" icon no longer appears. (see attached image).
Why?
Hi, that's normal. As Avast fully protects you, there's no need for WS to show its icon.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Mr. Consumer on December 01, 2021, 03:40:40 PM
After updating the version and installing the firewall, the "Windows Security" icon no longer appears. (see attached image).
Why?
Hi, that's normal. As Avast fully protects you, there's no need for WS to show its icon.
That's not normal, actually. It might not be necessary to access it in general, but the icon shouldn't stop showing up unless it was disabled from the startup items or else. If not Avast, then something else caused this. Sometimes it gets fixed after a system restart. The user should check if it's enabled on startup. If not, then I have a potential solution to make it appear once again.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on December 01, 2021, 03:45:27 PM
After updating the version and installing the firewall, the "Windows Security" icon no longer appears. (see attached image).
Why?
Hi, that's normal. As Avast fully protects you, there's no need for WS to show its icon.
That's not normal, actually. It might not be necessary to access it in general, but the icon shouldn't stop showing up unless it was disabled from the startup items or else. If not Avast, then something else caused this. Sometimes it gets fixed after a system restart. The user should check if it's enabled on startup. If not, then I have a potential solution to make it appear once again.
Please note that Windows itself disables it, if (full) 3rd party protection is installed/enabled.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Mr. Consumer on December 01, 2021, 03:52:32 PM
After updating the version and installing the firewall, the "Windows Security" icon no longer appears. (see attached image).
Why?
Hi, that's normal. As Avast fully protects you, there's no need for WS to show its icon.
That's not normal, actually. It might not be necessary to access it in general, but the icon shouldn't stop showing up unless it was disabled from the startup items or else. If not Avast, then something else caused this. Sometimes it gets fixed after a system restart. The user should check if it's enabled on startup. If not, then I have a potential solution to make it appear once again.
Please note that Windows itself disables it, if (full) 3rd party protection is installed/enabled.
I'm talking about the tray icon only. Not Windows/Microsoft Defender AV. The Windows Security icon don't get removed from startup when third party products gets installed. Windows Security contains other non Microsoft Defender info also. Like Exploit protection, secure boot, TPM, parental control, etc.
I think what the user said is that, after updating to the latest version, his Windows Security icon disappeared, which shouldn't have happened. So he should check whether it got disabled somehow on startup item.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Nunzio77 on December 01, 2021, 04:10:34 PM
After updating the version and installing the firewall, the "Windows Security" icon no longer appears. (see attached image).
Why?
Hi, that's normal. As Avast fully protects you, there's no need for WS to show its icon.
That's not normal, actually. It might not be necessary to access it in general, but the icon shouldn't stop showing up unless it was disabled from the startup items or else. If not Avast, then something else caused this. Sometimes it gets fixed after a system restart. The user should check if it's enabled on startup. If not, then I have a potential solution to make it appear once again.
Please note that Windows itself disables it, if (full) 3rd party protection is installed/enabled.
I'm talking about the tray icon only. Not Windows/Microsoft Defender AV. The Windows Security icon don't get removed from startup when third party products gets installed. Windows Security contains other non Microsoft Defender info also. Like Exploit protection, secure boot, TPM, parental control, etc.
I think what the user said is that, after updating to the latest version, his Windows Security icon disappeared, which shouldn't have happened. So he should check whether it got disabled somehow on startup item.

Practically the icon appeared when the PC was restarted but after a few moments it disappeared and then that of Avast appeared. This also happened by restarting the PC or turning it off and on.
The automatic start of the security system icon was active.
To fix I had to uninstall and reinstall Avast Free.
Unfortunately it was a very bad upgrade experience.
It means that next time I will not update it right away, as there may be problems and more bugs. I will wait for the update to be proposed to me automatically after days, when it will be more stable.

Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: miguelgrado on December 01, 2021, 09:31:56 PM
Second release in the row I'll have to skip for now...  :(

1. Judging by the commenters here, Firewall is forced upon users, disabling the default Windows Firewall (which I personally prefer to use instead of Avast's one), giving no way to disable Firewall in Avast Free, if it's not needed, apparently.

2. Despite various reports over the past month, even during beta testing in its thread, broken Export / Restore settings feature.

Bust most importantly, Firewall must be possible to disable.

Otherwise for people who prefer other Firewalls (including Window's Default one) Avast becomes unusable.

I like my Windows 7 Firewall just fine, and I have many rules there I have no wish to re-create for Avast, even if I did want to use it (which I don't).






When updating to this latest version, the Firewall is not installed, but you have to add it if you want and on the other, you can deactivate it just like the other shields....
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: chris.. on December 02, 2021, 08:02:52 AM
Hello,
2 small remarks with this version:

1-the release notes that appear just after the 1st reboot display the truncated special characters (in French).See screenshot 1

2-the avast icon was hidden in the taskbar, I went to "customize notification icons" to set the avast icon to "Show icon and notifications" (this is the first time this has happened since I started using avast).
This can be explained by the fact that there are 2 times "avast antivirus" in the applications (see screenshot 2).... The 1st one, the one actually used was set to "Show notifications only", the 2nd one (old version?) should not appear anymore.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Karel Šťavík on December 02, 2021, 01:06:25 PM
Hello, issue with Internet Explorer is now fixed and fix is in public. So once you receive it (uupdate scheduled task is started every 4 hours), it is necessary to restart the PC to apply the fix.
If you would like to receive the fix immediately, best way is to start scheduled task from Task Scheduler manually.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Ali666 on December 02, 2021, 11:16:07 PM
How to uninstall a flawed version of Avast secure browser ? And how to stop flawed update to be systematic ?
The last update was such a terrible job, i lost everything.
All my personnal information, all my shortcut in homepage except for facebook (who cares ?), and all of my F**KING passwords.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: DavidR on December 03, 2021, 01:33:34 AM
How to uninstall a flawed version of Avast secure browser ? And how to stop flawed update to be systematic ?
The last update was such a terrible job, i lost everything.
All my personnal information, all my shortcut in homepage except for facebook (who cares ?), and all of my ******* passwords.

I have replied in your other topic, https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=308985.0 please stick to that one.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Dinobot2 on December 03, 2021, 02:28:39 AM
I really wish I read this thread before I downloaded the new update. Luckily I haven't restarted my computer yet so the update hasn't taken effect and I thus don't have the firewall enabled yet, but I know I will eventually need to restart it for something else.

Does anyone know if an update is expected that would allow us to disable the firewall if we wish to continue using the Windows firewall? So far it seems like it's either use Avast's firewall or don't use Avast AV at all.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: InvisibleMan on December 03, 2021, 02:40:16 AM
I really wish I read this thread before I downloaded the new update. Luckily I haven't restarted my computer yet so the update hasn't taken effect and I thus don't have the firewall enabled yet, but I know I will eventually need to restart it for something else.

Does anyone know if an update is expected that would allow us to disable the firewall if we wish to continue using the Windows firewall? So far it seems like it's either use Avast's firewall or don't use Avast AV at all.
Well, the replies I got after my post about it seem to indicate that after Firewall will appear it should be possible to go and remove it as any other component, and after that, with computer restart, it should be gone and the windows default firewall should work again.

Could you test it and confirm it, since you already got it?

You can't avoid rebooting your computer forever anyway.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Dinobot2 on December 03, 2021, 02:55:51 AM
I really wish I read this thread before I downloaded the new update. Luckily I haven't restarted my computer yet so the update hasn't taken effect and I thus don't have the firewall enabled yet, but I know I will eventually need to restart it for something else.

Does anyone know if an update is expected that would allow us to disable the firewall if we wish to continue using the Windows firewall? So far it seems like it's either use Avast's firewall or don't use Avast AV at all.
Well, the replies I got after my post about it seem to indicate that after Firewall will appear it should be possible to go and remove it as any other component, and after that, with computer restart, it should be gone and the windows default firewall should work again.

Could you test it and confirm it, since you already got it?

You can't avoid rebooting your computer forever anyway.

I don't know, it kind of seems like you're trying to get me to restart and get me to accept the full install and have me be stuck with the firewall...

In all seriousness, I work from home and use my computer for work, so maybe i'll do it Saturday morning so I have the weekend to use in case something goes awry.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Dinobot2 on December 03, 2021, 03:11:03 AM
Don't worry. The Firewall is not forced. You can remove the Firewall component after the update or decide to not install during a fresh installation. So if you prefer Windows Firewall, then you can keep using that with Avast.

Just so i'm clear, is it disabled/turned off after the update and lets me decide if I want it first, or does it enable it and turn off the Windows 10 firewall by default and I have to then manually disable it and then do another restart?

And if it's something I can enable or disable like I can the other shields, does it give you an error notification or a red X icon when you disable the firewall? Because that's what happens when you disable any of the other shields, even temporarily.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: InvisibleMan on December 03, 2021, 03:11:54 AM
I still didn't update to this version, simply because the issue of the broken export/restore settings system. My version 21.8 is wroking fine, so for now I don't see any benefit from the update.

EDITED this post.

Don't worry. The Firewall is not forced. You can remove the Firewall component after the update or decide to not install during a fresh installation. So if you prefer Windows Firewall, then you can keep using that with Avast.

Just so i'm clear, is it disabled/turned off after the update and lets me decide if I want it first, or does it enable it and turn off the Windows 10 firewall by default and I have to then manually disable it and then do another restart?

And if it's something I can enable or disable like I can the other shields, does it give you an error notification or a red X icon when you disable the firewall? Because that's what happens when you disable any of the other shields, even temporarily.
I mysef suspect that it might go either way. If Firewall will be there, it could be impossible to disable it as a shield, and even if it is, apparently it's possible to simply remove the whole Firewall component, reboot the computer and that's it.

In that case it's not a big deal anyways, if temporarily Windows Firewall will be disabled, before the component removal takes place.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Dinobot2 on December 03, 2021, 03:14:52 AM
Yeah I saw that, I still have some other questions about the alleged optional firewall, which I laid out in my message right before yours.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: InvisibleMan on December 03, 2021, 03:19:23 AM
Yeah I saw that, I still have some other questions about the alleged optional firewall, which I laid out in my message right before yours.
Btw, I edited my post above to answer your reply above it.

I's noticeable, that Mr. Avast disliked the firewall for the lack of features, and stayed with Windows Firewall. So it should be indeed possible to at least remove the component of Firewall and not use it.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Dinobot2 on December 03, 2021, 03:23:49 AM
Thanks, and I appreciate your willingness to help, but you seem to just be suspecting what could be the case and inferring from there. I would really like to know for sure how it works and what I can expect before I go ahead with the rest of the update. I think i'll need a response from Mr. Avast or anyone else who has gone on with the update to confirm.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: rocksteady on December 03, 2021, 10:59:56 AM
From what I have seen, you can choose whether or not to use Avast Firewall by selecting it same way as other Avast Free options:
Menu>Settings>Troubleshooting>[ADD / MODIFY COMPONENTS]
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Michael529 on December 03, 2021, 02:44:09 PM
I just updated the Free version to version 21.10 through the GUI.
Before doing so, I looked to make sure that I knew how to remove the firewall, if necessary, following the advice in this thread. Surprisingly, my version 21.9 told me that the firewall was already available, but that it wasn't installed. Surprisingly because I had looked when 21.9 was first installed here and the firewall wasn't available then, so the option had been activated sometime subsequent to that installation.
After the update, the message was the same as before that the Avast Free firewall was available, but not installed.
OK, so the update went well, and I don't have the new Avast firewall installed. But it is available, so my question is what advantage would there be over using the Windows 10 default firewall?
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Dinobot2 on December 04, 2021, 12:29:40 AM
Just finished the install process and gave my computer a restart, and can confirm what Michael529 said. It simply unlocks the Firewall box and gives you the option to install it if you wish.

Word of advice: do not click Install unless you actually want to. I clicked it out of curiosity thinking it would give me a dialog box to confirm or bring me thrugh some steps, but once you click it, it automatically starts installing. I force restarted my PC before it finished which stopped the installation, so i'm still without it, so if you accidentally do it like I did (for some reason), just do that if you're able.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: InvisibleMan on December 04, 2021, 03:32:10 AM
so my question is what advantage would there be over using the Windows 10 default firewall?

Only disadvantages for now, as you can see in the beginning of this user's comment:

https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=308695.msg1665774#msg1665774
I had to uninstall and reinstall the product to get the Firewall.
But this Firewall doen't have the option to manually add programs to it to create my rules. This is such a shame. Adding apps is the most basic feature of any Firewall. It doesn't matter that it's free. So core functionality wise it's even worse than Windows Firewall.

I also want to point out, that Windows Firewall was in development and was being perfected for as long as Windows existed in general, up till Windows 10.

So it's the most likely to work in a more polished and proper way for Windows, than any third party Firewalls, unless some very professional products from really trusted sources.

Even if Avast Firewall currently would be as perfectly tested and reliable as Windows Firewall, there's still would be that disadvantage of adding rules manually, the lack of full control.

I assume it's because it's in Avast Free Antivirus. In paid products most likely it would have more features. Though I can't be sure.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: miguelgrado on December 04, 2021, 09:42:58 AM
Hello

The new Firewall (paid version), is now less intuitive in some respects.

First of all the applications with connection can not be grouped as before, also to remove one from the list you have to delete by serado incoming and exiting connection and there is no option to delete simply.

Another feature that seems to have disappeared is that of cleaning obsolete applications. I mean. those rules of applications that are no longer installed on the pc
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: RejZoR on December 04, 2021, 02:00:04 PM
I quite like the free firewall. Just wondering, are Trusted and Untrusted networks same as Private and Public under "Basic rules" ?
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on December 04, 2021, 02:28:20 PM
I quite like the free firewall. Just wondering, are Trusted and Untrusted networks same as Private and Public under "Basic rules" ?
Yep.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Nunzio77 on December 04, 2021, 02:51:11 PM
One question, is a PC with Avast Free + Firewall Avast Free now more secure than another PC with Avast Free + Windows 10 Firewall? 
In summary, does Avast's Free Firewall provide greater protection than that of Windows 10 and / or 11?

Thanks!
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: InvisibleMan on December 05, 2021, 03:06:56 AM
In summary, does Avast's Free Firewall provide greater protection than that of Windows 10 and / or 11?

I'm pretty sure nobody can answer that. Because their replies would be biased.

If there was a list of all specific differences between Avast Firewall and Windows Firewall, then we could at least try to compare.

In any case, consider this:

How many users there are using Windows, and how many reports for bugs and vulnerabilities over the years Microsoft would get and fix?

A lot. (And most people just keep Windows Firewall).

And compare that userbase number to Avast Firewall userbase number (not Avast, but actually this Avast Firewall itself) and a possible amount of reports. Just a very different order of magnitude.

So from the "bug and vulnerabilities" standpoint, Windows Firewall must still be more polished and safe. And besides, judging by earlier comments in this thread, Avast Firewall, even in the paid version, was oversimplified and it currently lacks some control and functionality that Windows Firewall has.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: RejZoR on December 05, 2021, 09:10:04 AM
I quite like the free firewall. Just wondering, are Trusted and Untrusted networks same as Private and Public under "Basic rules" ?
Yep.

Would be nice if wording used for both was the same so you know you're adjusting the same things...
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: jim488 on December 07, 2021, 03:00:46 AM
i have lost the ability to edit firewall rules in this new verdion, that is a MAJOR, and unwelcome, change...tell me when you will revert this or do you plan on refunding for remaining subscription time??
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on December 07, 2021, 09:44:40 AM
i have lost the ability to edit firewall rules in this new verdion, that is a MAJOR, and unwelcome, change...tell me when you will revert this or do you plan on refunding for remaining subscription time??
-> https://support.avast.com/en-ww/article/Antivirus-Firewall-Application-Rules
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: alex1198 on December 07, 2021, 12:09:48 PM
Hi,

So I have read all the posts regarding the problem with creating new app rule in firewall and I have to say the option to block all new apps does not work as intended. I have just installed a new app (game) and after running it, the app was not blocked instead it went online and was nowhere to be found in avast firewall.

This being said, please incorporate the add new app rule option in the next update as it is pretty much useless otherwise.

And I read that bit about avast firewall not being better than the windows firewall, what's up with that? If you pay for extra protection you should get something extra, if that is the case it is very disappointing.

And change the damn Capcha I can't understand a word with all the scribbling in it.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on December 07, 2021, 12:12:54 PM
And change the damn Capcha I can't understand a word with all the scribbling in it.
Captcha is only needed for your first 3 posts. (Spam protection)
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: jim488 on December 07, 2021, 10:42:52 PM
i have lost the ability to edit firewall rules in this new verdion, that is a MAJOR, and unwelcome, change...tell me when you will revert this or do you plan on refunding for remaining subscription time??
-> https://support.avast.com/en-ww/article/Antivirus-Firewall-Application-Rules

the problem is that much of the firewall rules are now LOCKED...
its my firewall, why am I locked out of firewall rules on my own computer???

this is not what I paid for; A firewall rule set that locks me out. I should be able to edit my firewall rules however I want, its my system after all.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: P515 on December 08, 2021, 02:26:37 AM
In case anyone is still concerned with the firewall thing.

I did not have the firewall installed previous with my avast and after the update it has remained that way, no firewall added. still giving me the option to install it if I wanted to.

However I will refer to a post made by DinoBot2 on the 4th and quote the following:

"Word of advice: do not click Install unless you actually want to. I clicked it out of curiosity thinking it would give me a dialog box to confirm or bring me thrugh some steps, but once you click it, it automatically starts installing. I force restarted my PC before it finished which stopped the installation, so i'm still without it, so if you accidentally do it like I did (for some reason), just do that if you're able."
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Natacha15 on December 08, 2021, 11:30:15 AM
hello .. how can I go back to the previous version of the firewall? is there any way?
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on December 08, 2021, 12:14:42 PM
hello .. how can I go back to the previous version of the firewall? is there any way?
Afaik, no.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: dwh on December 12, 2021, 09:59:14 PM
Has an update that fixes the broken Export /Restore settings feature been pushed out yet?

-dwh
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on December 13, 2021, 10:17:41 AM
Has an update that fixes the broken Export /Restore settings feature been pushed out yet?

-dwh
Hi, see: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=309394.msg1667033#msg1667033
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: -midnight on December 13, 2021, 12:00:47 PM
If I installed this new version might or not get the firewall but  I don't want it so I'll skip this. version.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: DavidR on December 13, 2021, 12:27:49 PM
If I installed this new version might or not get the firewall but  I don't want it so I'll skip this. version.

Had you read the post Reply #54 (5 above yours), you would see it is offered, you don't have to accept.

Skipping this program update version doesn't meant it isn't going to be in the next program update, are you going to skip that too.

In case anyone is still concerned with the firewall thing.

I did not have the firewall installed previous with my avast and after the update it has remained that way, no firewall added. still giving me the option to install it if I wanted to.
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Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: bob3160 on December 13, 2021, 01:40:06 PM
Even if it gets' installed it's very easy to remove.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: dwh on December 14, 2021, 06:03:46 AM
Has an update that fixes the broken Export /Restore settings feature been pushed out yet?

-dwh
Hi, see: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=309394.msg1667033#msg1667033
If I read correctly, the answer is it's not pushed out.  Further, a fix still being worked on in the context of the next version beta.

-dwh
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: dwh on December 14, 2021, 06:20:20 AM
In terms of the firewall, I uninstalled Avast when updating Windows to a new release.  This was necessary when doing so a few prior times to the point where I now presume it has to be done at this point.  When I reinstalled 21.9 (which is where restoring saved Avast settings is handy), I find I now have the Firewall as a "New" available protection feature, but not turned on (which is what I want).  I guess once the Firewall has been pushed out you don't need 21.10 to get it.

-dwh
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: jvidal on December 15, 2021, 04:09:11 PM
v21.11 is out, why haven't you posted it????
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: DavidR on December 15, 2021, 04:20:29 PM
v21.11 iso ut, why haven't you posted it????

Only in beta as far as I'm aware - https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=309394.0 - only released on 09 December 2021, 13:31:40.

Are you running a beta build (?) as that would update automatically.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: wahyushikifujin on December 15, 2021, 04:30:23 PM
no, I 30 minutes ago got avast version 21.11 automatically
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: DavidR on December 15, 2021, 04:41:56 PM
no, I 30 minutes ago got avast version 21.11 automatically

I had been hanging back on 21.10, retaining 21.09, I have program updates set to manual. I have just checked and yes 21.11 has just been released.  I can only assume (dangerous) that the 21.11 beta was a quick release bug fix/check.

I see the new firewall in the Protection area, not installed automatically, but awaiting download (which for now it will wait).
Time to update my signature.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: -midnight on December 15, 2021, 07:06:24 PM
I just installed this new version, unticked the firewall so don't have it.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: DavidR on December 15, 2021, 08:44:35 PM
I just installed this new version, unticked the firewall so don't have it.

There is no need to have unchecked it as it isn't downloaded, nor installed.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: dwh on December 15, 2021, 09:26:59 PM
v21.11 is out, why haven't you posted it????

I can confirm that the offline installer has been updated to v21.11 (21.11.2500 (build 21.11.6809)).  The corresponding "What's fixed" info for it in the beta thread is:

. deadlock in importing settings from file
. conflict between two internal security components making MS Internet Explorer unable to run

However, the last developer comment in the beta thread on the settings issue is: "There is a plan to re-test this functionality in the future as even now we found out some of the settings does not work well after import and/or reset so we will focus on it and will touch the reported issue too."  v21.11 may just be "better enough" than v21.10, rather than fully fixed, to be worth pushing out.

-dwh
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: bob3160 on December 15, 2021, 09:36:11 PM
I just installed this new version, unticked the firewall so don't have it.

There is no need to have unchecked it as it isn't downloaded, nor installed.
As I explained in the video,
unless you do a custom install, the module wasn't installed.
It was an unchecked item that required a custom install and selection
to make it to your system.
https://youtu.be/IxozZFC9XRk
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: DavidR on December 15, 2021, 10:26:25 PM
I just installed this new version, unticked the firewall so don't have it.

There is no need to have unchecked it as it isn't downloaded, nor installed.
As I explained in the video,
unless you do a custom install, the module wasn't installed.
It was an unchecked item that required a custom install and selection
to make it to your system.
https://youtu.be/IxozZFC9XRk

Simply confirming it for -midnight ;)
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: jvidal on December 16, 2021, 01:15:14 AM
v21.11 still hasn't been posted!
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: dwh on December 16, 2021, 05:28:38 AM
v21.11 still hasn't been posted!

You mean there isn't a "NEW Avast Version 21.11 ..." topic here in the Forum?  Or something else?  I don't think Avast pushes new versions out all at once.  And, if you follow the "Free: https://files.avast.com/iavs9x/avast_free_antivirus_setup_offline.exe" offline installer link from the top post in this (v21.10) topic, I've reported that's been updated to 21.11).
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Czecher on December 16, 2021, 01:03:27 PM
Good afternoon,

I would like to kindly ask you following:

1) Why there is no new information regarding new update for AVG?

2) Anytime, I do update AVG, I have never seen list of new things coming with new version. Only for Avast but nothing for AVG, sadly.

Thank you in advance.

Kind regards,

CzEcHeR
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Asyn on December 16, 2021, 01:24:13 PM
1) Why there is no new information regarding new update for AVG?
2) Anytime, I do update AVG, I have never seen list of new things coming with new version. Only for Avast but nothing for AVG, sadly.
Well, this is Avast forum. Nevertheless, AVG beta versions are listed here: https://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=87.0
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Czecher on December 16, 2021, 01:46:28 PM
Sure, it is beta.

I am talking about a released version as a stable one.

Where is information about 21.11?
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: bob3160 on December 16, 2021, 01:57:43 PM
Sure, it is beta.

I am talking about a released version as a stable one.

Where is information about 21.11?
When released, it would be in the AVG section. :)
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: Czecher on December 16, 2021, 02:00:42 PM
Actually, it has been released since yesterday. I do not see anything. Same for AVG and Avast.
Title: Re: NEW Avast Version 21.10 (November 2021)
Post by: DavidR on December 16, 2021, 05:46:31 PM
Actually, it has been released since yesterday. I do not see anything. Same for AVG and Avast.

Avast - https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=310650.0