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Title: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: polonus on November 25, 2007, 12:29:07 AM
Hi malware fighters and FF users,

I tested Firefox 3 as Gran Paradiso (59.7 MB) for months on end now and still have it on my computer. I tried the new Firefox 3. Beta 1 and had to uninstall it for it would not run various add-ons that I cannot understand why they were declined from installing (updates not secure enough etc). I could not install Add N Edit Cookies, Stealther,  Console2 etc etc.
It is too restrictive to my liking. I have all the latest code from burning edge incorporated, latest bug patches applied in my own Gran Paradiso version, and I also added a special security folder full of Mozilla code. So as the situation is now I would not like to begin to change my personal 3a.01 version with my personal adaptations against the new FF 3.Beta 1..
I did not try the night testing tools with it, but alas less versatility for me in this Beta. I like to be able to command my browser for security in every aspect possible. FF 3.Beta 1 - overall personal verdict small, secure, but too minimal tweaking possibilities for my tastes.

polonus
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: Lisandro on November 25, 2007, 03:06:08 PM
I've tested it and it messed all my Firefox 2 installation.
Also, lost features and functions... no, right now, not.
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: bob3160 on November 25, 2007, 04:12:00 PM
At the moment,
"Firefox 3 is not for me"
If this is progress than I'll stay in the dark ages.  :(
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on November 25, 2007, 04:26:17 PM
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Users of the latest released version of Firefox should not expect their add-ons to work properly with this beta.

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Please note that installing Firefox 3 Beta 1 will overwrite your existing installation of Firefox. You won't lose any of your bookmarks or browsing history, but some of your extensions and other add-ons might not work until updates for them are made available.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b1/releasenotes/ (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b1/releasenotes/)

You guys might want to, like, read the release notes dudes.  ::)
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: Sesame on November 27, 2007, 06:37:30 AM
I've tested it and it messed all my Firefox 2 installation.
Also, lost features and functions... no, right now, not.
Use portable firefox not to let this happen.  Here (http://www.zendurl.com/s/slythfox/) are scripts for it.  If you like to do it yourself, however, just replace the content of firefox folder with a compiled nightybuild.  Here (http://grandstreamdreams.blogspot.com/2007/11/build-your-own-firefox-3-alphabeta.html) is an instruction for it.  I use portable firefox to test some addons/extensions, too.  Using the portable function of apps as some kind of sandbox seems to have become a kind of trend today.

PS  Indeed, the lack of addons definitely reduce the practical value of Firefox 3 but I am quite happy with Firefox 2 and there is no need to hurry.
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: Sesame on December 02, 2007, 08:37:29 AM
Use portable firefox not to let this happen.  Here (http://www.zendurl.com/s/slythfox/) are scripts for it.  If you like to do it yourself, however, just replace the content of firefox folder with a compiled nightybuild.  Here (http://grandstreamdreams.blogspot.com/2007/11/build-your-own-firefox-3-alphabeta.html) is an instruction for it.  I use portable firefox to test some addons/extensions, too.
Hi, this is a rather minor update but you can now download firefox 3 portable beta 1 here (http://portableapps.com/news/2007-11-30_-_firefox_portable_3_beta_1).  Then again, still not so many addons/extensions are available on it.  :(
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on December 20, 2007, 10:05:11 AM
Firefox 3 Beta 2 installs alongside Firefox 2, so anybody who wants to try it but has been worried about the beta installing over Firefox 2 (as was the case previously) can now go ahead and try it without any worries.
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: Sesame on December 20, 2007, 11:13:55 AM
Alternatively, you can use the portable version (http://portableapps.com/news/2007-12-19_-_firefox_portable_3_beta_2), thanks to John T. Haller.
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: Lusher on December 20, 2007, 03:26:46 PM
Why people expect existing all extensions to work for firefox 3 is beyond me...
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: Sesame on December 20, 2007, 04:09:02 PM
Why people expect existing all extensions to work for firefox 3 is beyond me...
Not so many regular comers here, I think.  Then again, a precaution won't harm since the net is open to anybody.

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Also, I haven't come across someone complaining of the unavailability of all extensions/add-ons.  Most of people complain of that of the popular ones.
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: RejZoR on December 20, 2007, 07:41:03 PM
Just use Nightly Tester extension and make them compatible. Most of them will work just fine. Some wont.
Been using FF3 since Beta 1...
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: bob3160 on December 20, 2007, 10:10:48 PM
Why people expect existing all extensions to work for firefox 3 is beyond me...
For some of us, the extensions are important.  :)
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: Lisandro on December 20, 2007, 10:14:47 PM
Why people expect existing all extensions to work for firefox 3 is beyond me...
I am waiting... I love my extensions and won't change until I can use (most of) them.
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on December 20, 2007, 10:54:05 PM
Bob and Tech, the release you're waiting for is called the "final".  ;)
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: DavidR on December 21, 2007, 12:04:42 AM
Even in the final release there may be extensions that don't work and you may need to hack them about a bit to get them to work. I dare say I will have to do the same thing for one of my favourite extensions, Translate 0.6.0.8.
Title: Re: Why I waited to install Firefox 3. Beta 1.............
Post by: polonus on December 21, 2007, 12:20:24 AM
Hi malwere fighters and browser testers,

The Mozilla Foundation has made some 900 improvements in the Firefox 3 second beta version of this browser. Moreover these are adaptations deal with the user interface, memory use, and other matters to enhance stability, and performance. A lot of these improvements come from feedback by the Firefox community.

Where security is concerned the browser is better hardened against cross-site JSON data-leaks, and the Effective top-level domain (eTLD) service sees to it that cookies and other content from a certain domain is available for that domain only.

Despite of all improvements this is a beta test version, and users are warned that the browser is only meant for developers and testers.

polonus