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Title: Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: F4 on March 09, 2004, 06:55:38 PM
Not offensive, please  :)

I've read a good comments about Avast at CNET and found this interesting comment. (yes, that's almost what I think too)
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"Good but......"
This appears to be a good virus checker that is badly let down by the uneccesarily complicated default layout. The controls are all over the place, accessed by chaotic pop-up menus. Why oh why do these programmers feel the need to make the default interface look like a Klingon portable digital intergalactic communicator? This may appeal to those spotty nerds that like to live in some kind of lala-cyber-fantasy land, but to reasonably balanced people who live in the real world, who don't have time to mess about with silly graphic interfaces, this can be a great irritation. There are 2 other skins provided, but they are just as bad. I downloaded the Flat'n'Simple skin from their website, and it was a big improvement, but it should be the default! If the producers would supply a sensibly featured interface skin and left the default one to the silly boys, that would be better. Still, it did manage to detect two Trojans that Norton missed. Hopefully, ALWIL will design the next version for grown-up adults in need of simple but effective software.

http://download.com.com/3302-2239_4-10261831.html
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Personally, I think a messy skin is not the case but Avast's context menu ( a silly-sloppy blue ball ) makes Avast looks unprofessional.

Thanks
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: Lisandro on March 09, 2004, 07:02:46 PM
Sorry, we do not agree with this comment.
You will see how good are the persons (Martin Novak and Sasha) who make those skins.

About the one who give that opinion: use the skin that you want and let avast! users happy with all the others.

Anyway, wellcome F4. This is a family! We enjoy each other and try to help. Sasha and Martin did a very good work indeed  ;)
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: Pavel Baudis on March 09, 2004, 07:08:20 PM
I think this is a question of personal preferences. You simply can't make the interface which will all users like!

My opinion is that the default skin is very simple and elegant. And I can't imagine simpler stuff than something like video player - just push the button to start the program working! Others can prefer other skins - even I have currently the Pirate one selected (hi Sasha  ;D)!

If you wish to use the really proffesionally looking interface for big boys, you can try (and buy) the avast! 4 Pro  ;)

Pavel
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: RejZoR on March 09, 2004, 08:17:04 PM
If you change the user interface i'll stop using avast!.
Only Pc-cillin 2004 and BitDefender have good GUIs too,all other have ugly or unfunctional. I don't know whats wrong with skins or current layout!? Heh :P
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: MikeBCda on March 09, 2004, 08:29:36 PM
Personally, I think a messy skin is not the case but Avast's context menu ( a silly-sloppy blue ball ) makes Avast looks unprofessional.

I certainly don't mean to beat this topic to death, but I'm confused by this comment about the tooltray icon.  With rare exceptions, nearly every program's icons there are symbolic-pictorial rather than whatever he seems to want.  Admittedly there could be some improvements in the context menu itself, which have been discussed in other topics, but that's apparently not his objection.

For cookie control, my personal favorite is Cookie Pal, from Kookaburra -- it was the first program I ever liked enough to pay for registration.  Its tooltray icon is almost a smiley -- but it does one heck of a job.

Even Win's own modem-status icon is pictorial, for heaven's sake.
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: trigger on March 09, 2004, 08:31:41 PM
"Well... your software stops 100% of aal virusses, protects your system against all havock people can throw at it, but... I will not use it because it looks so ugly..."

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING  ???

I like the GUI, people made some great skins for it, but hey... what is the most important thing virus protection should do?

Some people just don't know how to set their priorities.

Peter
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: trigger on March 09, 2004, 08:32:37 PM
Did I mention, people made some very nice skins for it?

Oh, yes, I did ;)

Peter
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: F4 on March 09, 2004, 08:32:47 PM
Thanks for responses.  :)

Don't worry, it's just a personal opinions.

Different people=Different needs

In my opinion, BitDefender's GUI is the best it's very clean-straightforword-intuitive I've seen.
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: Lisandro on March 09, 2004, 09:13:44 PM
Thanks for responses.  :)
Don't worry, it's just a personal opinions.
Different people=Different needs
In my opinion, BitDefender's GUI is the best it's very clean-straightforword-intuitive I've seen.

Ok, you can use the Professional version of avast!  ;)
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: .: Mac :. on March 10, 2004, 12:03:12 AM
I have avast pro on my laptop Home on my supercomputer. even on the Pro version I NEVER use the advanced interface. I love sasha's mac skins too much  :D
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: Lisandro on March 10, 2004, 02:09:36 AM
I have avast pro on my laptop Home on my supercomputer. even on the Pro version I NEVER use the advanced interface. I love sasha's mac skins too much  :D

Mac: do not say never...
You must go there to adjust your settings... avast! will work even better with both interfaces configurated right. Remember, a lot of features are 'guided' by the Enhanced Interface and the providers run with the Pro version settings  ;)
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: RejZoR on March 10, 2004, 01:44:34 PM
I use Enhanced for configuration only (Tasks,Scheduling...),for scanning i use Simple GUI,because you can set everything very fast for scanning.
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: .: Mac :. on March 10, 2004, 03:47:17 PM
technical,
I did open the advance GUI when I forst installed the program. But as rejzor the simple GUI is so much better for everyday use. I have not opened the advance GUI in over 2 months  :)
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: Lisandro on March 10, 2004, 08:56:58 PM
technical,
I did open the advance GUI when I forst installed the program. But as rejzor the simple GUI is so much better for everyday use. I have not opened the advance GUI in over 2 months  :)

Ok, me too  ;D
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: RejZoR on March 10, 2004, 10:00:51 PM
Uuuu i ran my custom made Task Enhanced GUI today. Damn im good ;)
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on March 11, 2004, 12:17:45 PM
I saw all those nice comments for avast! skins and all I can say is :

THANK YOU GUYS !

Forall those who hates avast! skins... one more time...

No one force you to use them !!! No one... I made all my skins with love and I put 567% of my spare time into designing those skins. I didn't make any money on that. Everything is my good will. But, still I can see some people are always unhappy, complaining and all that crap...

Technical gave him very good advice... I'll put it this way with capital letters: ADVICE

"...go and buy pro version..."

Guys who keep complaining, aspecially that IANPB who wrote his comment at CNET - Spend some money, not just your bad words.  You probably never did something good and useful in your life, so you feel offended when you see that so many people are doing something good for other people, and also, you feel extraordinary need to make bad and ugly comments about other people's work. I'm sorry, but I have to say that I hate people like that, I hate them from the bottom of my heart. They are not just mad at those skins, they are probably mad as well for the rest of the things in the universe.  That kind of people is never satisfied. I just feel sorry I can not give him reply directly to CNET...  >:(

Thanks, and... ... ... ... ... when I catche some spare time, I'll make another and one more and another and one more skin for greatest antivirus in the world - avast! No one can stop me, especially that kind of people.

Cheers !
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: Lisandro on March 11, 2004, 12:36:31 PM
I was imagining how much time will I have to wait until you 'discover' this forum and post your opinion  ;D
We're with you Sasha  8)
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on March 11, 2004, 01:21:15 PM
Well my friend... I must confess that I saw it accidently... I decided, that I will not respond on this kind of threads in the future. Let it be...

That guy (IANPB) couldn't say his opinion in here, inside avast! forum... but instead of that, he went to CNET to say something stupid. He insulted me, Martin and all avast! users in general in the same time. Why he didn't say anything in here ? 'cause he is coward, most likely.

But, to be 100% true, I like those guys and their comments. It's a proof to me that I'm good... why ? 'cause we all can see that he will eat himself alive because he is not able to make skins like that... hihi  ;D

If I don't like someone else's work, I'll just shut up, or maybe give him some constructive comments, 'cause I know that he gave his best and he spent so much time doing that. I like to respect that. If I don't have anything nice to say, I'll just keep my mouth shut... that's my rule.

Cheers !
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: bbfi on March 11, 2004, 06:11:18 PM
Sasha,

Don't let them get to you. Leave them in the Lord's hands. ;)

Like you said, they probably live miserable lives and can't do anything constructive themselves so they bad mouth others and complain and whine about everything. :-X

One day they will meet their Maker and let's see them explain their ways to Him. "...throw that worthless servant outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 25:30 NIV). :o
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on March 12, 2004, 12:54:12 AM
Thanks bbfi !

This is the best reason to visit this forum. I am surrounded with so many good people. Guys (and GIRLS, I don't wanna forget CoJo), you are so kind to me, so much love is in here. That's the way whole world should be... yeah, that's the way !

F4 wrote:
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Personally, I think a messy skin is not the case but Avast's context menu ( a silly-sloppy blue ball ) makes Avast looks unprofessional.

What silly-sloppy blue ball ? The one that spins sometimes in the system tray ? I don't know who made it, but I also don't understand why you people hate that little icon ? F4, you're not the only one, I've heard that from some other users also... Personally, I like that icon very, very much. It looks kinda 3D, and it looks much better than some other icons for some very popular and expensive programs... a waaaay much better ! But, let's be serious for a moment...  :o
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OK, it's enough... we can make jokes again...  ;D

P.S. Some day in the future, I guess someone will complain regarding my stupid avatar...  ;D They will always find something if they want... no cure for that.

Cheers !
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: bbfi on March 12, 2004, 01:10:45 AM
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I guess someone will complain regarding my stupid avatar...
I was showing it to my wife today and I told her that I thought you looked a little like Jay Leno when he was younger.   ;D
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: MikeBCda on March 12, 2004, 01:19:37 AM
If we have to "fix" any toolbar icons, how about the one for the VRDB generator, when it's running?  On my computer, at least, it's got a very odd appearance of -- rotating? -- with no fixed direction.  Looks almost like an animated GIF with its frames shuffled into random order.
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on March 12, 2004, 01:28:24 AM
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I guess someone will complain regarding my stupid avatar...
I was showing it to my wife today and I told her that I thought you looked a little like Jay Leno when he was younger.   ;D

Hahaha... because of that silly looking chin, probably... I made that stupid face, so it looks like I'm wondering what's going on in these posts...

Here is my new photo... I don't wanna look like Jay Leno... God forbid !  ;D
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: SKYCOMP on March 12, 2004, 02:54:07 AM
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I guess someone will complain regarding my stupid avatar...
I was showing it to my wife today and I told her that I thought you looked a little like Jay Leno when he was younger.   ;D

Hahaha... because of that silly looking chin, probably... I made that stupid face, so it looks like I'm wondering what's going on in these posts...

Here is my new photo... I don't wanna look like Jay Leno... God forbid !  ;D

Don't sweat it, your mug is as decent as any. As for skins? Now you've hit a big nerve with me personally. These New Avast! skins are absolutely Next Generation material in preview yet reality now they are available. What a fine piece of imagination. You are to be recognized for merely introducing these selections. The Triangular one blows me away(my personal favorite), but i can't keep from using the L-cars Star Trek interface on every Scan. WOW! What a breathe of fresh air, and music to the ears. Keep 'em coming!
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on March 12, 2004, 03:09:31 AM
Hehe, I'll try to make some more in the future... at this point, I'm kinda too busy working on one very important web site (completely Flash design). You can chek this thread I just posted and you may want to click on link in there... you'll see preview of web site I'm working on...

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=3232 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=3232)

Cheers !
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: Jarron on March 12, 2004, 06:36:54 AM
Sasha,  just wanted to add my support and thanks!

I think you have a point.  The only people who are never criticized are those who never do anything, and of course they are the ones criticizing.

Until I switched to avast! I never thought anti-virus could be fun.
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on March 12, 2004, 11:55:42 AM
Thanks Jarron, thanks F4, thanks to everybody !

You guys make me wanna go even further with skin designs. I'll give my best in the future, and don't you ever forget:

I'm doing this for you guys. It's not just some old phrase. It's true. I make skins for best antivirus ever, and that's my pay. I don't make money on this, your comments are my pay cheques... that should show you that I don't make these skins because of my personal interest... OK, a little bit, 'cause I also made all those skins 'cause it makes me very happy to work on something I truly love...

That's all I can say for now...

Cheers !
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: RejZoR on March 12, 2004, 02:22:07 PM
Keep up the good work Sasha! Ignore those who think that skins are useless ;D
Maybe try to make one skin with Classic layout like BitDefender has (Buttons on the left side,info on the right side,avast! Antivirus text on the top above buttons and so on...).
Corporatre and Flat'n'simple were almost perfect otherwise i like Martins default Blue skin very much ;)
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on March 12, 2004, 02:32:23 PM
Thank you Sheep Almighty, hehe... Corporate and Flat'n'Simple - almost perfect ? Those ARE perfect ! Find just one bug on those and I'll eat my left shoe (after I steped into crap...  ;D)

Where can I see how BitDefender looks like ?

Cheers !
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: RejZoR on March 12, 2004, 02:46:43 PM
Ok i'll say they are not 100% for my taste but they are made with 100% perfection (hehe this sounds much better) ;)

Here's BitDefender interface :),but its a bit changed in current version 7.2
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: CoJo on March 12, 2004, 07:22:28 PM
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I guess someone will complain regarding my stupid avatar...
I was showing it to my wife today and I told her that I thought you looked a little like Jay Leno when he was younger.   ;D

Hahaha... because of that silly looking chin, probably... I made that stupid face, so it looks like I'm wondering what's going on in these posts...

Here is my new photo... I don't wanna look like Jay Leno... God forbid !  ;D

OMG, Sasha...you are gorgeous  :)
nothing personal...just an old broad that enjoys some of the fine things in life 8)

cojo
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on March 12, 2004, 08:07:57 PM
Hahaha... and you though that's my face (avatar) in my real life... ;D
Thanks for compliments CoJo, but I'm not gorgeous... This Canadian food made me fat, although thanks to construction, hard work turned that fat into muscles...  :P ;)

Hey, people ! Here is good idea... post your photos. It will be funny. We all are friends, we can comment each other's photos... you all saw my stupid photo already, let me see you posting something...

Cheers !
Title: Re:Avast and unprofessional looking
Post by: CoJo on March 12, 2004, 08:44:00 PM
Hahaha... and you though that's my face (avatar) in my real life... ;D
Thanks for compliments CoJo, but I'm not gorgeous...

Sasha, I look with my heart as well as my eyes...

This Canadian food made me fat, although thanks to construction, hard work turned that fat into muscles...  :P ;)

...even better! ;D

Hey, people ! Here is good idea... post your photos. It will be funny. We all are friends, we can comment each other's photos... you all saw my stupid photo already, let me see you posting something...

that's a good idea...but I think some may want to remain mysterious and let others fantasize ;)
reality can bite ;D

Cheers !