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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Rednose on December 30, 2007, 07:11:35 PM
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Hi all :)
I am just curious : When will Avast! 5 go into a public Beta ???
Greetz, Red.
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From last info known from Vlk, sometime in 2008 (if everything goes ok).
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Can you give us any idea about the changes compared to version 4.x ???
Greetz, Red.
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Well we know there will be a huge upgrade to engine itself (packers which are constantly being updated anyway, possible generic unpacking engine). There is also a chance to see some form of heuristic scanning but ALWIL team is going to put some more effort in behavioral detection instead. We can as well expect GUI changes but nothing known so far.
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will the major changes of Avast version 5 render the current skins for the interface unusable.
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I usually find other AV's fancy GUI pretty unusefull, I would like to have the same GUI or at least something very close to actual GUI which is both very functional and intuitive.
When I say other AV's you know: norman, panda, bitdefender (awfull!!!), mcafee, symantec, kasp, they all stink, they go the artificial fancy way.
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When I see the topic I became happy... I thought it was an official announcement :'(
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When I see the topic I became happy... I thought it was an official announcement :'(
LOL same here Tech xD xD
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From last info known from Vlk, sometime in 2008 (if everything goes ok).
That means you can ask the same question again , starting from tomorrow ;D ;D ;D
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will the major changes of Avast version 5 render the current skins for the interface unusable.
Oh whatever they do PLEASE make sure the Terminal-0010 skin works with all future versions! That is the only interface I can use and it makes avast awesome! 8)
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Oh whatever they do PLEASE make sure the Terminal-0010 skin works with all future versions! That is the only interface I can use and it makes avast awesome! 8)
I see no reason for losing support of it...
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I however do. Skins may be fun but honestly, ppl prefer streamlined, all in one interface over bunch of windows and menus here and there all seperated to dozen of panels. It's simply not useful and only confuses users regardless of how cool skins are.
Avira AntiVir interface is an example of good design. Kaspersky Antivirus 6 and 7 also fall into this category. If avast! will ever look something like this i'll ditch skins without any problem (i don't use them anyway)...
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Don't get me wrong, I like avast, but I find the skins gimmicky and would prefer a straightforward GUI, just my opinion. :)
Happy New Year, all ;D
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I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you, but the GUI will certainly be redesigned and the skins from avast! 4 won't work there.
The underlying technology, ActiveSkin, is quite obsolete (= it's not developed anymore, and without the sources there's no way to fix the problems - and there are quite a few).
I don't know if there will be any (alternative) skinning options in avast! 5 or not - but ActiveSkin will be the first thing to get rid of, sorry.
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Don't be. Making the skin was fun (i can say for my own, i'm sure Sasha had lots of fun doing all the skins too) but major GUI redesign is a need if we want avast! to be even more popular. Even if that means no skinning capability...
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The skins from avast! 4 won't work there.
Loose the skinning ability is sad... Hope you can find another alternative.
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With very high probability, skin support will be dropped from avast 5.
This decision has been made after a long consideration (we uderstand that it won't make happy some people but we still believe it will be a good move for avast and the vast majority of its users).
Plus, there have been some extra problems with the skins in terms of supportability (descirbing the UI wasn't that straightforward etc).
While I don't (personally) agree with RejZor that AntiVir's GUI is good, I'm quite confident the new avast GUI will make him very happy as it will fit his description quite well while still looking somewhat cool... ;)
Anyway, please don't ask us for exact schedules. It is simply too early. E.g. the GUI's development has started only very recently, so it will take quite some time before we have something that can actually be "tested"...
Cheers
Vlk
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Well, i'm sure there is room for improvement even for AntiVir GUI but i found it's tabbed interface to be quiet friendly to navigate and centralized settings easy to find and manage (similar applies to KAV6 and KAV7 interface). Vlk, don't forget to post some screenshots of the GUI when it's mainly done in "you know where", so we can check it out and maybe give some feedback :)
I think these dev-user feedback has created some very positive results so far :)
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So, just to recap... avast 5 is due later this year... ;) :D
Happy New Year to everyone! :)
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Well if the skins wont work is the standard default one for version 5 going to be neat and clean looking?
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So, just to recap... avast 5 is due later this year... ;) :D
Happy New Year to everyone! :)
Any chance you can make the default gui look exactly like terminal 0010? Or hire the guy who made that skin to do the gui ;D
Either that or have new skin support for version 5, and the t0010 guy can redo it. ;D
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Vlk (or anyone from Alwil team) will Avast 5 be able to be installed over the current version or will it require us to remove the current version, its just that having to remove one can cause issues with registry entries not being fully removed and I personally would like it to be able to upgrade the current version without having to do any uninstalling
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You'll just have to use integrated updater for that task. It always updated avast! regardles of how major upgrade there was...
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I hope if you do use HIPS there will be a opt out tick box or something as some of us already have HIPS from firewalls and 2 HIPS running together is not a great idea.
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You know, the skins, and especially for me Terminal 0010 really give avast its personality. You guys should reconsider your skin decision, or at the very least make the new default gui exactly like terminal 0010. I can't stress this enough. ;D
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I hope it's not going to be a resource hog. :-\
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You'll just have to use integrated updater for that task. It always updated avast! regardles of how major upgrade there was...
Actually, this is probably not going to be the case for the update to avast! 5. You don't have to worry about possible conflicts, the installer won't let you install it without uninstalling the previous version first, maybe it will offer some kind of a migration tool (don't know), but it probably won't be handled like a usual program update - for technical reasons.
Anyway, it's too early to be worried about this.
Any chance you can make the default gui look exactly like terminal 0010? Or hire the guy who made that skin to do the gui ;D
Sorry, this is not going to happen. The program will look very different - so it won't really be like any of the existing looks.
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igor, as long as it can check for update and maybe direct user to new download it's still fine.
I really hate Kaspersky way of updating program. Signatures are ok but program updates like crap (you always have to do it manually for a bit bigger updates, uninstalling, installing, eh). avast! updated everything automatically so far from 4.0 up to current 4.7. Just reboot and voila. Any chance of auto-uninstall of older version and instalaltion of v5 in one snap? So users won't have to do everything by hand (thats bad :P ).
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Well, i'm sure there is room for improvement even for AntiVir GUI but i found it's tabbed interface to be quiet friendly to navigate and centralized settings easy to find and manage (similar applies to KAV6 and KAV7 interface).
Actually, I find the current avast interface easier to manage than KAV6. KAV6 is much more complex. I hope Avast 5 maintains the user-friendly interface.
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avast! is certanly not easier. Settings split to On-Access interface and Simple Interface (On-Demand) don't make it any easier...
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well i'm sure we get hands on beta so Alwil can 'adjust' everything to maximize success :)
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If the Alwil team can please look into either somehow making the latest version upgrade to version 5 or at least make the version 5 auto remove the existing Avast and then go onto installing the new one that would be great, as theres been many a time were I have had to remove something for something else only to have it start playing up I have faith in your skills and hope you will figure some way for it to be updated easily
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I recently saw that Avast had a partrenership with Java is this partnership related to the skin ???
How about the partnership with Intel ???
All I ask for version 5 is that it keeps its high reliability :)
Thanks
Al968
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If the Alwil team can please look into either somehow making the latest version upgrade to version 5 or at least make the version 5 auto remove the existing Avast and then go onto installing the new one that would be great
Don't worry, at least the second option will be present.
I recently saw that Avast had a partrenership with Java is this partnership related to the skin ???
I don't think it has anything to do with Java - it's probably related to the Solaris version.
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Ok :)
How about with Intel ??? Is it the Intel Capital program ?
Thanks
Al968
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When you going to release beta version of Avast 5? I know that the final 5.x version is planned for July 2009, but beta...when? Tomorrow? 8)
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Ok :)
How about with Intel ??? Is it the Intel Capital program ?
Thanks
Al968
Intel invested huge $ (millions) into Grisoft (AVG) in past years ...
so that would be quite interesting investment into 2 companies from same country at same AV market field
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When you going to release beta version of Avast 5?
When it's ready...
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im trying to find any beta downloads for avast 5 and possibly adnm with the avast5 engine....
i have missed the beta thread but found it now...