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Title: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: Vlk on February 29, 2008, 06:06:31 PM
The program has now been officially released as 4.8.1169. Thanks to everyone who helped testing.

Hi all,

after some time, it's my pleasure to announce the availability of a pre-release build of the upcoming version of avast! Home/Professional - version 4.8.

How to install it (for starters - most people already know this trick anyway ): simply download and run the following program: (link removed) and follow the on-screen instructions. That's about all it takes (provided you have the latest release version of avast Home/Pro already installed, of course).

4.8 is quite an important update for us.

It contains the following major improvements:
  - a built-in antirootkit module
  - a built-in self-defense module
  - starting with v4.8, avast is now officially an antispyware application, too (CheckMark certified).

Plus there's a number of not-so-big new features, such as the ability to track scan progress and a large number of improvements in both the scanning engine and other components (such as the boot-time scanner, and the updater).

BTW This first beta build will be followed by another one (most likely in about a week). This is because it still doesn't contain some of the anti-rootkit functionality (so far, boot-time scan can be used to detect/remove rootkits; in the next beta, the GUI scanners will also feature antirootkit capabilities).

Also, in this first version, we're still aware of some methods to bypass the self-defense module, and these are being worked on continuously. This especially applies to the ashDisp.exe process which is somewhat harder to protect than the rest (i.e. the avast services) as it shares the user's logon session and is thus more easily attackable.


Any comments on this release are very welcome and appreciated!


Thanks
Vlk

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: CharleyO on February 29, 2008, 06:36:24 PM
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Thanks, Vlk!    :D

Downloading the beta now.    :)


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Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: XMAS on February 29, 2008, 06:55:35 PM
Hello Vlk :)

The updater does not work for me. It tells me that I have the latest version.  :-\
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: Leoloek on February 29, 2008, 07:15:51 PM
Hello Vlk,

Just downloaded and started the update file. After the necessary reboot i found only a version .1098 in the about Avast screen.
I can't find any extra settings or new functionality. Did i do somethig wrong?

Leoloek
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: RejZoR on February 29, 2008, 07:16:05 PM
The update was rather strange...

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Information about current update:
Total time: 59 s

- Program: Already up to date
  (current version 4.7.1098)
- Vps: Already up to date
  (current version 080228-0)

Server: download958.avast.com (74.86.232.38)
Downloaded files: 5 (2,84 KB)
Download time: 3 s

First it was downloading plenty of data but end summary was like this. I don't think this is ok...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: canuck2 on February 29, 2008, 08:09:53 PM
I also downloaded and ran the beta update and received the same message about the program & signature file being already up to date.  But then it said I had been successfully updated and needed to reboot.

But after reboot I'm stilling seeing build version 4.7.1098.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: cegriffin66 on February 29, 2008, 08:25:54 PM
Same here, downloaded and installed, said I needed to reboot to enable new beta build. Can't see any changes, still ver 4.7. Hmmmm... :-\
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: Vlk on February 29, 2008, 08:44:54 PM
Sorry guys, my bad!
It should be fixed now (a tiny but very important piece of info was missing from our updating servers... :-))

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: sanctuary24 on February 29, 2008, 08:56:48 PM
just 3 quick questions (for Alwil team members):

1) will the new version (when finalised) be a standard program update or a full install (of Avast)?
2) will the termination protection cause issues with uninstalling Avast if the need arises?
3) will V4.8 require a lot more resources/system requirements, or is it only a small increase?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: DavidR on February 29, 2008, 09:09:03 PM
Thanks Vlk, my dial-up is working overtime storming along at about 4.5KB, so time to get something to eat.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: igor on February 29, 2008, 09:31:06 PM
1) will the new version (when finalised) be a standard program update or a full install (of Avast)?

Standard update.

2) will the termination protection cause issues with uninstalling Avast if the need arises?

You can disable the self-protection on the Troubleshooing page in avast! settings - should there be any need.

3) will V4.8 require a lot more resources/system requirements, or is it only a small increase?

Don't see any reason for increased resource usage.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: sanctuary24 on February 29, 2008, 09:35:48 PM
thanks Igor for the reply

I only asked about the self protection thing because I wondered if it would think that an uninstall was an attempt to terminate the program, just to check, if I needed to uninstall I would just deactivate self protection first?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: Lisandro on February 29, 2008, 10:34:22 PM
I can't believe you've won in the last day of the month... :P

Well, I'm downloading and installing my new avast antivirus and antispyware ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: essexboy on February 29, 2008, 10:53:50 PM
And still over three hours to go - got it  ;D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: cegriffin66 on February 29, 2008, 11:07:31 PM
great! Thanks Vlk, that did it. So far, so good. ;)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: RejZoR on February 29, 2008, 11:17:03 PM
I can't start any componet of avast! (splash screen crashes, both simple interfaces crash when i start them via trey menu or directly from avast! folder). It's weird... I'm using Vista SP1 if that makes any difference...

One of the errors from Event Viewer...
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Faulting application ashSimpl.exe, version 4.7.1098.0, time stamp 0x47c70ed0, faulting module kernel32.dll, version 6.0.6001.18000, time stamp 0x4791a7a6, exception code 0xc0000142, fault offset 0x00009cac, process id 0xf84, application start time 0x01c87b2055029b3a.

...and...
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Problem signature:
  Problem Event Name:   APPCRASH
  Application Name:   ashAvast.exe
  Application Version:   4.7.1098.0
  Application Timestamp:   47c6b709
  Fault Module Name:   kernel32.dll
  Fault Module Version:   6.0.6001.18000
  Fault Module Timestamp:   4791a7a6
  Exception Code:   c0000142
  Exception Offset:   00009cac
  OS Version:   6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
  Locale ID:   1060
  Additional Information 1:   9d13
  Additional Information 2:   1abee00edb3fc1158f9ad6f44f0f6be8
  Additional Information 3:   9d13
  Additional Information 4:   1abee00edb3fc1158f9ad6f44f0f6be8
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: Vlk on February 29, 2008, 11:23:19 PM
Does the on-access scanner work?
0xC0000142 means "DLL initialization failed". Seems like one of the avast DLLs got somehow corrupted.

Can you try a repair of avast installation?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: RejZoR on February 29, 2008, 11:24:34 PM
Yes, on-access works perfectly, i just can't start anything on-demand.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: Vlk on February 29, 2008, 11:27:11 PM
Or maybe try disabling the self-defense module (via avast settings -> Troubleshooting page). Note that you will need to restart the machine for this change to become effective.

Does that make any difference?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: joaopr on February 29, 2008, 11:33:33 PM
Thanks, great.

A suggestion for this new version:

Improving the beauty of the icon of the taskbar and simple interface.

They are only suggestions, but the avast is best.
Congratulations!
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: RejZoR on February 29, 2008, 11:35:12 PM
Vlk, repairing instalaltion did NOT helped, however, disabling Self-Protection did the trick. I've disabled S-P, restarted the PC and now i can start simple interface and also splash screen works just fine.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: essexboy on February 29, 2008, 11:37:48 PM
Got the little beeps when you mouse over the different elements on the main screen - confused me for a moment
Working OK on Vista (non SP1) OK
Integrates with leachget download manager (still)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: RejZoR on February 29, 2008, 11:43:46 PM
I've also noticed there is no % progress indication in skinless interface...
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: rdmaloyjr on March 01, 2008, 12:17:29 AM
I've just downloaded the beta & doing a Quick scan, 51% complete.  Eveything is fine. :)

I've turned off & blocked the start up of Spyware Terminator to test avast!'s anti-spyware capability.  I hope it is as good or better than ST. ;)  One less program to drain resources will be a boon to the meager capacity of my Dell Hell. ;D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: sanctuary24 on March 01, 2008, 12:37:30 AM
how long will this Beta testing last (roughly)?

ps I will wait longer if it means you can perfect it :D
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: rdmaloyjr on March 01, 2008, 12:44:02 AM
After 4.8 has gone Gold, can we try a beta of the Avast! firewall? ;D

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4.8 is quite an important update for us.

It contains the following major improvements:
  - a built-in antirootkit module
  - a built-in self-defense module
  - starting with v4.8, avast is now officially an antispyware application, too (CheckMark certified).

The avast! Personal Firewall beta would give us a complete security package. 8)

I'm in no hurry, ZA does a great job.  I'm just curious about what the avast! firewall will be like. :)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: rdmaloyjr on March 01, 2008, 02:15:20 AM
BTW This first beta build will be followed by another one (most likely in about a week). This is because it still doesn't contain some of the anti-rootkit functionality (so far, boot-time scan can be used to detect/remove rootkits; in the next beta, the GUI scanners will also feature antirootkit capabilities).

Any comments on this release are very welcome and appreciated!

Thanks
Vlk
In avast! settings> troubleshooting... "__Disable rootkit scan at system start up" can be checked. 

Does avast! scan for rootkits at system start up?  From the quote above it seems not, but if this option is here, maybe it does?  Or it's here in anticipation of the next beta in which it will scan for rootkits at system start up?

I am using 4.8.1137 beta.
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: Go Pack Go on March 01, 2008, 02:56:54 AM
Will the anti-rootkit and self-defense modules be available to avast! Home too?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: rdmaloyjr on March 01, 2008, 03:32:14 AM
Will the anti-rootkit and self-defense modules be available to avast! Home too?
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=33621.msg280394#msg280394

Notice he said " avast! Home/Professional - version 4.8".

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: jasper2408 on March 01, 2008, 06:46:14 AM
My testing setup:

WinXP SP2 x32
Superantispyware Pro (version 4.0.1146)
Windows firewall
Avast Beta
Sandboxie (paid for version 3.22)
KeyScrambler Pro (version1.3.3)


When I open Firefox in Sandboxie a message pops up saying that FF is already open and that I have to either close the open instance or restart. I checked for running processes and FF is not running so I restart and still get the same popup message when FF is opened with Sandboxie.

Here is what I have tried so far:

1. I have tried disabling all the modules (one at a time then checking again) in Avast but that doesn't fix it.
2. I uninstalled the beta and reinstalled the previous version I had and FF works with Sandboxie.
3. I ran FF with the proxy settings enabled and without the proxy settings enabled and it made no difference.
4. I uninstalled SAS just to be sure that wasn't the problem but still get the popup.
5. I  uninstalled/reinstalled Sandboxie but that made no difference.
6. Disabled KeyScambler and still get popup.

I also reinstalled the beta version again(just to see if maybe it was a bad install) and I get the popup window again. FF will work ok if I start it without using Sandboxie with the beta installed. Also IE7 works in the sandbox with the beta.

Everything works fine except for FF and Sandboxie. Gonna keep this beta on as it is running fine otherwise. Nothing is crashing or anything and nothing else seems out of the norm.

jasper
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: alanrf on March 01, 2008, 07:26:51 AM
Using Windows XP SP2 with the new beta.

Only issue so far ... right click on any file and select the menu option for an avast ashquick scan produces the attached popup  which must be acknowledged before the report window which looks rather different from my current production avast version.

Changing the default skin seems to to have no effect on the popup.


Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: rassel on March 01, 2008, 07:50:39 AM
 ;D I though the avast will came out avast 5.0 vision  :-\ but is 4.8. so when will avast 5.0 vision out?
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: ght1 on March 01, 2008, 08:38:02 AM
I use Win XP with SP3 RC and avast 4.8 beta seems to work fine  :)
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: CharleyO on March 01, 2008, 09:17:54 AM
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Others seem to have a few minor problems but avast! 4.8 is working fine for me. I have tested the problems others are having on my computer and they work for me.    :)


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Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: Tevion on March 01, 2008, 10:22:06 AM
Using Windows XP SP2 with the new beta.

Only issue so far ... right click on any file and select the menu option for an avast ashquick scan produces the attached popup  which must be acknowledged before the report window which looks rather different from my current production avast version.

Changing the default skin seems to to have no effect on the popup.




I have the same little nasty problem.
Anytime i will do a quick scan this window pops up and after quitting it the scan runs without problems.
Nice, now we have a percentual display of the scanning progress in quick time scan and also even in boot time scan!
But its a beta, so far i know, alwil will be improve this in a short time :)
Tevion
Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: Vlk on March 01, 2008, 10:29:24 AM
Alanrf & Trevion, good catch, this is a simple-to-fix error (ashQuick.exe doesn't contain the ActiveSkin component licensing info in this build). Of course, this will be fixed in the next beta refresh.

RejZor, I'd like to find out more about the problem (the self-defense related thing). What other low-level software do you have installed on your system? Do you have SP1 on your Vista? Any other less-standard tweaks? Etc... we'd definitely like to have the problem simulated on one of our test machines...

The lack scan progress indicator in the skinless UI will be fixed momentarily, too.


Thanks so far
Vlk

Title: Re: * Introducing * - beta version of avast! Home/Pro 4.8
Post by: kubecj on March 01, 2008, 10:45:00 AM
Guys, I reopened the BETA sub-board, so please continue to post there.

Please adhere to: ONE ISSUE PER TOPIC rule!

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