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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: Go Pack Go on March 13, 2008, 10:48:56 PM
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I see that AVG Antvirus 8 is out, and I am pretty sure there is NO free edition. Wouldn't this make avast! Home Edition the most popular free antivirus?
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It's still there: you just have to have the link.
They did the same thing with AVG Free for Linux some time ago.
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It's still there: you just have to have the link.
They did the same thing with AVG Free for Linux some time ago.
I can't find the free edition, all I can find is a free trial.
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The new page doesn't mention the free version (only the free trial) but the old page is still up:
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/5390/us/frt/0 (http://free.grisoft.com/doc/5390/us/frt/0)
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Eh eh... seems that Grisoft is making a bad movement... hiding the free version ;D
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A bad move for Grisoft is a good move for avast! ;D ;)
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who really cares about AVG when you have the best Avast! ;D
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I never cared much about AVG...
What I DO mind though are the rumours(?) that free AVG AS (ewido) won't be around very long...
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I never cared much about AVG...
I don't either but it's good to have "free" competition around.
It keeps all vendor on their toes. ;D
Without competition, we may loose all "free" antivirus services.
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I never cared much about AVG...
What I DO mind though are the rumours(?) that free AVG AS (ewido) won't be around very long...
It isn't a rumour, AVG will become an anti-malware incorporating the anti-spyware (a.k.a. Ewido) into the anti-virus from version 8. From that point I don't know how long support in the form of signature updates, etc. will be available for avg-as.
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As I'd mentioned somewhere else here, AVG 8 has also "absorbed" the former free stand-alone anti-rootkit. And Grisoft has explicitly said they will no longer offer updates for (or support) the stand-alone version.
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AVG 8 free edition will be available in the second quarter of 2008. It has an Anti-Virus / Anti-Spyware modul, but no Anti-Rootkit, no Webshield and only one update per day! ::)
AVG AS (Ewido) will be stopped!
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I hope Alwil does not follow these steps... competition is good for freewares.
If avast become only a shareware (payed version), will we stay here in forums? ???
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Dependant on the price - but I am sure that the forum will be well supported
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Dependant on the price - but I am sure that the forum will be well supported
For sure, I won't be round... I'm here because avast is a freeware...
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For sure, I won't be round... I'm here because avast is a freeware...
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avg free or not, im sticking with Avast ;D
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I'm here because avast is a freeware...
Me 2 :)
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For sure, I won't be round... I'm here because avast is a freeware...
Without competition, we may loose all "free" antivirus services.
With the introduction of AVG 8 Free, Avast will be the only free anti-malware that works on Windows OSs earlier than 2000/XP, and it's already the only one that reliably scans IMAP email. I know it goes against-the-grain for many long-standing freeware users (me included) but the best strategy to keep Avast Home free might be to pay for it! :o (25% off this month!)
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Why pay for Home version when its free? Or did you mean Pro version.
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Why pay for Home version when its free? Or did you mean Pro version.
Yes! The best strategy to keep Avast Home free might be to pay for the Pro version. (That makes more sense.)
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I think AVAST Home is for children with their own PC's, students or people use only PC time to time. If you aren't a child, you aren't student and you have got a job, maybe you can purchase AVAST! Pro
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For those who don't know, I'm a student. However whenever I get some money I can spend I use it on something I want, which includes avast! Pro. I've purchased avast! Pro in the past and plan to in the near future again.
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Ok, but not all students have got money ;).
When i was student, i was very very poor. And when i had money, iowned books and more books. Life of students. If your parents can't pay your studies, you need to work to do it. And when i had a bit of free time and a bit of money, "fiestaaaaaaaaa".
I had my first PC when i was 23, and when i owned it was uotdated,hahaha.
Now i'm teacher and i have got no money ,hahahaha.
Always a lot of bills.
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I never cared much about AVG...
But: AVG is much lighter on memory than avast, maybe because AVG only has a standard shield :)
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Personally i don't care how light AVG Free is, detection rate is much more important. And on that front AVG Free sux ...
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I never cared much about AVG...
But: AVG is much lighter on memory than avast, maybe because AVG only has a standard shield :)
It isn't, it just appears that way. It runs some of its services as kernel level so they don't show up as AVG, in normal resource monitoring. This was mentioned previously by one of the Alwil team Vlk or Igor I believe.
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Read this thread for more info ...
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30271.0 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30271.0)
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The advantage is that it makes the filesystem scanner (that needs to run in kernel-mode anyway) slightly faster (avoiding the need of transitions between kernel- and user- mode).
Maybe that's the reason why it is running fine on my old laptop :-X
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The advantage is that it makes the filesystem scanner (that needs to run in kernel-mode anyway) slightly faster (avoiding the need of transitions between kernel- and user- mode).
Maybe that's the reason why it is running fine on my old laptop :-X
I don't wish to rain on the parade but there are also disadvantages which Vlk also mentioned.
The disadvatange is that any error in the engine usually means instant computer crash (or instant reboot).
Also, porting most stuff to kernel-mode is quite hard - so e.g. unpacking support is harder to implement in this case (especially if you want/need to use 3rd party code). That's one of the reasons you cannot enable archive unpacking in AVG's on-access scanner, by the way... Wink
Also, it's worth noting that this model had been used by Norton and McAfee (roughly till their 2004 versions). It was abandoned then - I suppose they figured out that the drawbacks simply outweighted the benefits.
So whilst it hides some resources, giving the illusion that it is much lighter in resources, but it's just an illusion.
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The disadvatange is that any error in the engine usually means instant computer crash (or instant reboot).
Also, porting most stuff to kernel-mode is quite hard - so e.g. unpacking support is harder to implement in this case (especially if you want/need to use 3rd party code). That's one of the reasons you cannot enable archive unpacking in AVG's on-access scanner, by the way... Wink
Also, it's worth noting that this model had been used by Norton and McAfee (roughly till their 2004 versions). It was abandoned then - I suppose they figured out that the drawbacks simply outweighted the benefits.
From my (attached) observations only, it seems that with version 8.0, AVG have abandoned in-kernel model (though still no "Scan inside archives" option for "Resident Shield"). On sample PC, default AVG 8.0 install adds about 35 physical and 65 virtual to memory use. AVG 8.0 Free should be lower as it will have fewer features.
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This should be a very simple choice:
If you think AVG is as good as avast! and uses fewer resources,
then uninstall avast! and use AVG.
My personal choice is simple. AVG isn't even in the running and
I'll continue to use avast! :)
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I'm an ex-AVG user... I can't compare it with avast: number of updates, servers available, GUI, features, configurability, etc. etc. Why downgrade? ;D
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This should be a very simple choice:
If you think AVG is as good as avast! and uses fewer resources,
then uninstall avast! and use AVG.
Very sound advice Bob... so I'm stickng with avast! like you and Tech.
One of my clients has AVG Pro licenses and I've just upgraded them from 7.5 to 8.0, which afforded the opportunity for a bit of a poke around. The AVG 8.0 download is 60MB :o ...obviously dial-up users need not apply. ;D
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I'm an ex-AVG user... I can't compare it with avast: number of updates, servers available, GUI, features, configurability, etc.
Me 2. But AVG update once a day is similar to avast, and i never had problems with the servers. The reason why I changed to avast were the spyware signatures. And yes, webshield is also a good feature. But let's have a look at AVG 8 which also includes a spyware modul.
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avast has no comparison/similarity at all to AVG's once a day update, avast in the past has had as many as 4-5 VPS updates in a day.
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i never had problems with the servers.
Lucky you... I had tons...
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Dependant on the price - but I am sure that the forum will be well supported
For sure, I won't be round... I'm here because avast is a freeware...
I never cared much about AVG...
I don't either but it's good to have "free" competition around.
It keeps all vendor on their toes. ;D
Without competition, we may loose all "free" antivirus services.
A free version of avast! keeps a highly active support forum with great support and more users to report bugs fp's & more to try betas.
Why pay for Home version when its free? Or did you mean Pro version.
Yes! The best strategy to keep Avast Home free might be to pay for the Pro version. (That makes more sense.)
People are more likely to brag on a great free AV than a paid version. At least one person that I recommended avast! to bought the Pro version. He came up to me after trying the free Home Edition & said it is awesome. He was using Kaspersky, avast! found & removed stuff that KAV couldn't find. He bought the Pro because he liked the layour better than in the Home Edition.
Us avast! Home Edition users do earn our keep.
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I'm an ex-AVG user... I can't compare it with avast: number of updates, servers available, GUI, features, configurability, etc. etc. Why downgrade? ;D
Not to mention that if you need help, their forums REALLY suck wind.
BTW, any one else having problems with these forums dropping out from time to time?
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Why pay for Home version when its free? Or did you mean Pro version.
Yes! The best strategy to keep Avast Home free might be to pay for the Pro version. (That makes more sense.)
People are more likely to brag on a great free AV than a paid version. At least one person that I recommended avast! to bought the Pro version. He came up to me after trying the free Home Edition & said it is awesome. He was using Kaspersky, avast! found & removed stuff that KAV couldn't find. He bought the Pro because he liked the layour better than in the Home Edition.
Us avast! Home Edition users do earn our keep.
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I didn't mean to imply that any avast! Home, non-commercial users (especially forum contributors) should be motitvated to buy Pro by guilt or feeling of obligation. :o
It just seems to me that if more people who can pay, do pay, the more likely it is that Alwil will continue to be able to provide such a comprehensive AV for free.
Also, would you say that the guy who ended up buying 'Pro' after trying 'Home', decided to feed the hand that bites! ...the malware that is. ;D
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I am waiting for avast! v5, if i really like it and alwil offers a good price for a 2yr license i will be buying the pro version FOR SURE.
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I didn't mean to imply that any avast! Home, non-commercial users (especially forum contributors) should be motitvated to buy Pro by guilt or feeling of obligation. :o
Who is implying avast! Home, non-commercial users (especially forum contributors) should be motitvated to buy Pro by guilt or feeling of obligation ???
I was only joining the chorus singing it's a good idea to have a free version of avast! anti-virus! 8)
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Back to the topic, won't AVG 8 have a free version after all?
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Back to the topic, won't AVG 8 have a free version after all?
No doubt AVG 8.0 Free will replace 7.5 sometime this year. The question is, what will be left in it?
Speculation only:
Firewall & System Tools will be left out. Web Shield & LinkScanner - I'm not sure. They may be hard to drop because they've welded them to the Yahoo toolbar. Now that AVG are "promoting" the free version as "Basic protection only", probably Anti-Spyware, Anti-Rootkit, Anti-Spam/Phishing will be left out as well.
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Does anybody knows what will happen?
Will avast and Avira the only ones that will be given for free? (I forgot ClamWin...).
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Does anybody knows what will happen?
Will avast and Avira the only ones that will be given for free? (I forgot ClamWin...).
... and PC Tools & COMODO.
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Here it is, weighing in at 45.57 MB http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download-avg-anti-virus-free-edition (http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download-avg-anti-virus-free-edition)
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Here it is, weighing in at 45.57 MB http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download-avg-anti-virus-free-edition (http://free.grisoft.com/ww.download-avg-anti-virus-free-edition)
No thanks... bad move from Grisoft.
They removed the IM, Webshield and antirootkit protection of the free version.
They also does not provide support :P :P
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No thanks... bad move from Grisoft.
They removed the IM, Webshield and antirootkit protection of the free version.
They also does not provide support :P :P
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Very true! Avast always the World BEST support and the best protection than AVG.
Anybody wanna line up and pee on AVG............I would ;D
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Anybody wanna line up and pee on AVG............I would
Me and Garfield will also-what about Speedy ;D
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Me and Garfield will also-what about Speedy ;D
Make sure you bring your chain-saw along with you too before I started my first smelly drop ;D ;)