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Title: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 05:43:28 PM
Attempts to access the forum were being diverted to a web page that never seemed to load on a hacked Turkish music site.

hxxp://www[dot]canlimuzik[dot]org/msn[dot]html

Was the forum itself hacked?

This was just before the English forum disappeared to be replaced by the Czech one.

Was the page above an exploit?

Nothing seemed to load on Ubuntu.
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: oldman on March 22, 2008, 05:47:07 PM
Where's the rest of your post?  ;)
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 05:49:04 PM
Sorry. Hit the wrong key somewhere.  :-[
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: oldman on March 22, 2008, 05:51:35 PM
I'd just like to hear your comment on the appearance of the forum.
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 05:56:08 PM
This was the message on canlimusic.org:

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sitemiz bir hacker tarafýndan saldýrýya ugramýstýr.onlemler alýnana kadar kapalý kalacaktýr.

Our site has been attacked by a hacker. It will remain closed until measures have been taken.
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: bob3160 on March 22, 2008, 05:57:13 PM
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http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=34038.0
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 06:01:14 PM
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I'd just like to hear your comment on the appearance of the forum.

My experience was that the forum address was being diverted to the site above for several minutes, before the Czech forum came up in it's place. My guess is the English forum got hacked and hastily taken off line.

No page seemed to load from the divert address. It was impossible to scan with Link Scanner, and I couldn't view the source.

I wonder what was going on?  ???
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: lee16 on March 22, 2008, 06:03:01 PM
I did a nice scan of my pc with superantispyware shortly after i released something "odd" was happening and even decided to temp enable NoScript xD

--lee
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 06:06:03 PM
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http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=34038.0


Yes, I noticed that thread, but nobody had mentioned the forum being diverted to a suspicious page.

A possible forum hack seemed to be worse that a bit of Czech appearing on the forum, and worth it's own thread (and a dramatic headline!).
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 06:12:33 PM
The divert site was malicious:
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: oldman on March 22, 2008, 06:20:23 PM
Okay I changed the name of my origonal post. I wasn't redirected to any other place than the czech forum, so I must have been after you. If I would have, I would have mentioned it.

I wonder if the name has to be used to prevent the redirect?
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 06:31:16 PM
Looks like forum visitors were exposed to an exploit, unfortunately one that avast! doesn't catch.

It a VBS exploit, which means that anyone with an out of date version of MS IE who happened to visit at that time has probably got pwned.

No idea what's causing the residual bit of Czech. Alwial staff will have to confirm what went on.
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Lisandro on March 22, 2008, 06:33:14 PM
Attempts to access the forum were being diverted to a web page that never seemed to load on a hacked Turkish music site.
hxxp://www[dot]canlimuzik[dot]org/msn[dot]html
Yes... Google stopped the hijacking...
I've tested Firefox and IE, Vista and Kubuntu...
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Lisandro on March 22, 2008, 06:35:51 PM
K9 would block it as being Spyware/Malware Source and Pornography...
Again layered defense protect us when avast seems to fail...
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: lee16 on March 22, 2008, 06:36:32 PM
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anyone with an out of date version of MS IE who happened to visit at that time has probably got pwned.

Imba firefox!

Anyway, glad to see most people didn't get hit by the exploits end intention, but anyone who did visit here and wasn't patched will prob be back with hijackthis/combofix logs soon  ::)

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Again layered defense protect us when avast seems to fail...

Avast not officially a spyware scanner till 4.8 right? xD

--lee
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Lisandro on March 22, 2008, 06:37:54 PM
To the ones that defend LinkScanner and says that Grisoft was far behind avast using LinkScanner technology...  :P
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: ght1 on March 22, 2008, 06:39:58 PM
Again layered defense protect us when avast seems to fail...

 :-\

Dr. Web got it while LinkScanner didn't find anything  ::)
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 06:43:42 PM
Confirmed hack.

Somebody's boasting about it already:
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: lee16 on March 22, 2008, 06:47:02 PM
what site is that frank?

--lee
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Lisandro on March 22, 2008, 06:47:52 PM
Confirmed hack.
Shame!
Forums security comprised (again)  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 06:53:28 PM
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what site is that frank?

Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: lee16 on March 22, 2008, 06:59:45 PM
Thank you Frank  :-*

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Forums security comprised (again)

Unfortunately whats made by humans can be broken by humans xD

--lee
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Vlk on March 22, 2008, 07:56:13 PM
Hmm... maybe it's time to change SMF (the forum software) to something else (?)
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: ght1 on March 22, 2008, 07:58:34 PM
Shame!

Avira added 'HTML/Rce.Gen' at 7.06.00.53  ( 24/01/2008 )  :-[

Should i discontinue online banking?
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Vlk on March 22, 2008, 08:04:18 PM
Shame!

Avira added 'HTML/Rce.Gen' at 7.06.00.53  ( 24/01/2008 )  :-[

Should i discontinue online banking?

I don't understand the question...
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Lisandro on March 22, 2008, 08:04:54 PM
Hmm... maybe it's time to change SMF (the forum software) to something else (?)
Maybe you can convince Pavel or Kubecj...
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: ght1 on March 22, 2008, 08:07:38 PM
Anyway, glad to see most people didn't get hit by the exploits end intention, but anyone who did visit here and wasn't patched will prob be back with hijackthis/combofix logs soon  ::)

What patch? How can i find out if i was hit or not?  ;)

Edit: I saw the czech forum.
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Vlk on March 22, 2008, 08:10:15 PM
It used a 1.5 year old vulnerability in Windows.
Unless your browser is way outdated, you should be safe.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-014.mspx
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: micky77 on March 22, 2008, 08:20:55 PM
Shame!

Avira added 'HTML/Rce.Gen' at 7.06.00.53  ( 24/01/2008 )  :-[

Should i discontinue online banking?
No,maybe you should use Avira.I think for a AV forum,to be hacked,twice,in the space of several months,is a joke.Its amateurish,thankfully,I surf with Sandboxie,so any shit,I get from this forum,is washed away.
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Avastfan1 on March 22, 2008, 08:21:40 PM
Dear Avast Forum Gurus,

Is anyone infected with anything - or did anyone pick up anything dangerous from the forum hack?

I also noticed after entering 'forum.avast.com' that I was directed to the Czech version of the Avast forum.

I didn't see the other 'diversion' website mentioned in this thread.

I use Windows XP Pro fully patched, Firefox 2.0.0.12, Avast Pro 4.7.1098, ZoooneAlarm Pro 7.0.470.000, super anti spyware, spybot, ad-aware, AVG anti-rootkit, AVG anti-spyware, A-squared, Super Anti-Spyware, F-Secure Blacklight and Spybots RootAlyzer.

Should I scan my computer additionally to the weekly scans I do? Given that I also was presented with the Czech version?

Thanks for your help!!!!!!!!

And Happy Easter!!!!!!

Avastfan1
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: ght1 on March 22, 2008, 08:27:26 PM
KB911562 was a part of update pack 2.14, so i should be patched  8)
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: Lisandro on March 22, 2008, 08:28:15 PM
Should I scan my computer additionally to the weekly scans I do? Given that I also was presented with the Czech version?
Don't worry... keep your weekly scans as usual...
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: polonus on March 22, 2008, 08:33:49 PM
Hi Avastfan1,

I missed all of the hack recently, being securely transferred to the Czech forum during the afternoon. Running NoScript inside Firefox should have protected you. I was there during the previous IFrame hack last year, but it brought me no harm and real data weren't being compromised. But it shows that certain software becomes more and more vulnerable to re-directed compromise: http://www.gnucitizen.org/blog/the-10000-sites-js-malware-source-code-leaked/
I trust our mods to do what they have to do!

pol
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: ght1 on March 22, 2008, 08:35:47 PM
No,maybe you should use Avira.I think for a AV forum,to be hacked,twice,in the space of several months,is a joke.

:o

I'm surprised that AVG got it  :-X
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: cw.org on March 22, 2008, 08:36:33 PM
You're hacked by Turkish Hackers.. They are members of www.cyber-warrior.org

But they are only member.. So you are not hacked by Cyber-warrior.Org, hacked by some members ( Volqan- Ekin0x )

This is link;

http://www.cyber-warrior.org/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=31&TopicID=250317&PagePosition=1&ThreadPage=1

(Note: Cyber-Warrior.Org is best hacker group in the world from Turkiye, so be careful ;) )
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: cw.org on March 22, 2008, 08:38:14 PM
Mirror link

http://www.zone-h.org/component/option,com_mirrorwrp/Itemid,160/id,7223775/
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on March 22, 2008, 08:46:13 PM
Beat you to it:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=34039.msg284684#msg284684 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=34039.msg284684#msg284684)

Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: cw.org on March 22, 2008, 08:49:39 PM
Ok i saw; they said that have loved Kasper :D
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: polonus on March 22, 2008, 09:06:30 PM
Hi cw.org,

Just helped a user from Turkey here with a malware problem. He was rather grateful when his machine was clean again. We do not deserve to be hacked. But maybe it had nothing to do with the mission  of the site offering forum help, but all with a weakness in the forum software. They can be qualified hackers, but not very ethical at that,

polonus (malware fighter)
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: lee16 on March 22, 2008, 10:17:31 PM
It may not have been "ethical", but it sure showed us the forum can be exploited if people want to exploit it, fix the problem!  ;D

--lee
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: bob3160 on March 22, 2008, 10:50:01 PM
It may not have been "ethical", but it sure showed us the forum can be exploited if people want to exploit it, fix the problem!  ;D

--lee
Fully agree Lee.
This is the second attack neither of which did any damage but who needs the annoyance.  >:(
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: OrangeCrate on March 23, 2008, 02:58:42 PM
This thread is funnier than the Sunday comics.

 ;D
Title: Re: Forum Hacked?
Post by: AssistantX on March 24, 2008, 12:45:09 AM
Hmm... maybe it's time to change SMF (the forum software) to something else (?)

There really isn't much of a safer alternative. Secunia.com lists plenty of vulnerabilities in all the major forum softwares (though most are patched) with SMF having the least.  SMF has no publicized unpatched vulnerabilities.