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Title: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: redactor on March 30, 2008, 08:52:48 PM
Hello --

Today I updated from A 4.7 to 4.8. Upon reboot, system worked ok for a few minutes, then froze completely -- impossible to do anything except hit reset button. Again, reboot, work ok for a couple of minutes, and freeze again.

I did a system restore to get back to 4.7 and all worked well again. Then updated again and, after reboot -- same problem: works ok for a minute or two, then freeze.

On the third try, instead of freezing the system, the computer dropped into a BSOD.

I've given up for the time being on 4.8 until someone can figure out what the problem is and fixes it.

I'm using Comodo Firewall Pro 2.4 (Not 3.0 because 3.0 caused similar freezing problems the last time (of several attempts) that I tried it); Comodo BOClean 4.25 and Spyware Terminator (with HIPS disabled). OS is Win XP Home SP3.

Any ideas what's the problem?

Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Vlk on March 30, 2008, 09:00:25 PM
It may be related to the startup rootkit scan.
Please send me the minidump file that was generated during the blue screen (by email - my address is in my forum profile).
It should reside in the C:\Windows\Minidump folder.

That should help us analyze the problem.

You may also try to disable the startup rootkit scan via Avast settings, Troubleshooting page and see if it makes any difference.


Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: PiCo on March 30, 2008, 09:41:59 PM
Seems redactor and I have the same problem. Just 1-2 minutes after system start-up to freeze completly.
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Tarq57 on March 30, 2008, 10:04:30 PM
Pico, you use SpywareTerminator also, yes?
What version?
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: PiCo on March 30, 2008, 10:50:37 PM
2.1.1.314 but I uninstalled it and the problem remained. Starnge things!
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Tarq57 on March 30, 2008, 10:58:36 PM
Bit of a long shot; did you undo any "immunizing" that ST may have applied prior to uninstalling it?
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: PiCo on March 30, 2008, 11:24:18 PM
Bit of a long shot; did you undo any "immunizing" that ST may have applied prior to uninstalling it?
Yes I kind of thought of that.

I immunize with Spybot S&D, SpywareBlaster and ST. I don't know how this can affect Avast!, perhaps there are rootkits blocked or sth :(
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Tarq57 on March 30, 2008, 11:28:52 PM
I don't know how ST immunize actually works. Probably via the registry? Try reinstalling it, immunize, de-immunize, exit then uninstall.
You might want to try de-immunizing Spybot's also, if that doesn't help.
Don't know if this will make any difference at all, just something worth trying.
[edit] there won't be rootkits blocked, just the addresses of known bad sites.
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: jimhorsfall on March 31, 2008, 11:28:44 PM
I also have a similar problem. Did de-immunising work?
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Lisandro on March 31, 2008, 11:47:26 PM
I also have a similar problem. Did de-immunising work?
I have no trouble with Spyware Terminator (on demand) + avast + immunization of Spybot S&D, SpywareBlaster, AdvancedWindowsCare.
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: drhayden1 on March 31, 2008, 11:50:40 PM
have no trouble with avast!4.8 and using spyware terminator as realtime along with winpatrol plus :)
along with SAS as a scanner and spywareblaster :)
click on pic below to see what i have running and no problems AT ALL...
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Rednose on March 31, 2008, 11:55:03 PM
I use the same security programs as redactor, and I don't have that problem. The only difference that could matter is that he is using SP3, and me SP2.

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Bigw on April 02, 2008, 04:52:31 AM
Have same problem as Redactor. I use Comodo firewall latest version and running  XP service pack 3. I have emailed mini dump.
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: gero on April 02, 2008, 05:28:39 AM
Ive the same problem once like i say in my previous post. Seems that this is a problem of the new version, mmm... :-\
But if u use XP the BSOD don't exist !
Any body can help me in my first post (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=34319.0) please? I GOT INFECTED! :o >:( :(

wHY THE HOUR dont correspond to my country (spain)?
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Lisandro on April 02, 2008, 02:51:48 PM
Any body can help me in my first post (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=34319.0) please? I GOT INFECTED! :o >:( :(
I've posted there.

wHY THE HOUR dont correspond to my country (spain)?
Change into your forum profile settings (button in the top of the page).
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Bigw on April 04, 2008, 03:48:10 AM
Any word on what is causing problem with crashes? I sent a mini dump to Vlk  and no response in posts. how about some help please? :o
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: PiCo on April 04, 2008, 07:49:53 AM
Seems a lot of people, including me, have this problem, but also a lot of people haven't!

Someone even said he's facing the "freeze" problem on his main account and when creating a new one and applying Avast! there it works fine.

I mean for us that have the problem, we must share sth in common.
The OS? NO
Other protection products like Comodo, Spybot, ST etc? NO
Previous installations of other AV? NO
Administrator acount? Don't know

Avast! doesn't have a mind of its own to decide whether it will run perfectly on a pc or freeze it. There's sth missing here.
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: ofertunas on April 04, 2008, 08:04:30 AM
Hola , acabo de instalar la version 4.8, hasta ahora todo bien salvo que al realizar el escaneo normal marca error el programa,  solo me deja hacer el escaneo rapido, tengo vista home premium, en una lap vaio, alguien que me pueda ayudar????
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Tarq57 on April 04, 2008, 09:44:55 AM
(Ofertunas' post, in English courtesy of Google translator)
Quote
Hello, I just installed version 4.8, so far everything's fine except that when conducting normal scanning error mark the program, just let me make quick scanning, I have Vista, in a lap vaio, someone who can help me?

Which I think means that the user can only select a quick scan?

Ofertunas, the forum language is English. To attempt to answer your question, can you move the slider shown in the screenshot below to the right before scanning? Just click and drag.
(Ofertunas, el foro es el idioma Inglés. Para tratar de responder a su pregunta, usted puede mover el deslizador se muestra en la captura de pantalla a continuación a la derecha antes de la digitalización? Sólo tienes que hacer clic y arrastrar.)

Regarding the other problem, one thing that at least some of you have in common is the OS. At least some of the affected posters are using SP3. This is not RTM yet; practically it's a Beta, or at best, a release candidate. Not saying that's it, (I really have no idea,)but it could be the common factor, the factor that's causing the issues.
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: paraglandeur on April 04, 2008, 10:14:54 AM
Same problems (BSOD and crash) for me today after 4.7 to 4.8 auto-upgrade. The same problem on another PC in my office too.
OS = WinXP SP2
The problem seems ocure while trying to log-in on an AppleTalk server. We are using 'PC MacLan v9.01' for appletalk comunication.
Solution : downgrading in 4.7

At home, without PC MacLan, everything is ok
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Vlk on April 04, 2008, 11:19:00 AM
Please send me the latest minidump from the C:\Windows\Minidump folder.

Thanks
Vlk
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: bugzy1977 on April 04, 2008, 03:48:46 PM
I get a BSOD while trying to do a thorough scan, through the avast on demand scanner.

Right clicking on a drive and clicking scan does not have this problem, but on demand scanner (ie, when you right click the avast icon on taskbar, and click start avast antivirus, then do a thorough scan)

I get the same problem in Windows Vista x64, running SP1 RTM, and in windows XP SP2.
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Lisandro on April 04, 2008, 05:24:39 PM
Go to folder \windows\minidump and send the newest (recent) .mdmp files for analysis.
Better if you can compress (zip) them and add some information about the BSOD and the link for this thread.  ;)

Send an email to any of these addresses:
vlk (at) avast.com
rypacek (at) asw.cz

Or upload to the any of these anonymous ftp servers:
ftp://ftp.asw.cz/incoming
ftp://www2.asw.cz/incoming
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: gero on April 11, 2008, 01:37:46 AM
thx tech for posting in the other messaje I was ill, I changed my hour local.

Ufff! I had the same problem (sist freeze) in a previous old computer and was the motherboard failure!  :o
I hope that this wont be the same (this computer is 2 year ild).

There is spanish forum here? Im spanish like ofetunas and I find little difficult always post here in english.
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Lisandro on April 11, 2008, 03:14:58 AM
There is spanish forum here? Im spanish like ofetunas and I find little difficult always post here in english.
Well... it should be an English-only forum...
You could go to an automated translation service, copy & paste your text and get, at least, an automated translation of your writings.

http://world.altavista.com/
http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html
http://www.freetranslation.com/
http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html
http://translation2.paralink.com/
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: gero on April 24, 2008, 12:22:37 PM
thanx for the links but from experience some of this translations aren't very good.. :-\
I ll keep on practicing English with the help of wordereference, you can correct me if you want.. ;)
Title: Re: Avast 4.8 -- Fatal problems
Post by: Lisandro on April 24, 2008, 02:14:52 PM
thanx for the links but from experience some of this translations aren't very good.. :-\
I ll keep on practicing English with the help of wordereference, you can correct me if you want.. ;)
No problems... we can understand you... the forum has a 'Spell Check' feature that should help.