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Title: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Husk on May 05, 2008, 09:11:17 AM
Hi, My computer has several problems and want to get rid of them, I thought a format would stop them.

I would like to know how please, and if possible could you tell me how to install my audio and graphics cards?
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: TedNelly on May 05, 2008, 09:17:50 AM
Google is your Best Friend  ;)
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Husk on May 05, 2008, 09:28:43 AM
I FOUND THIS

How to Format a Computer with Windows XP

   1. To format a computer with Windows XP or 2000, insert Windows CD and restart your computer.

   2. Your computer should automatically boot from the CD to the Windows Setup Main Menu.

   3. At the Welcome to Setup page, press ENTER.

   4. Press F8 to accept the Windows XP Licensing Agreement.

   5. If an existing Windows XP installation is detected, you are prompted to repair it. To bypass the repair, press ESC.

   6. Use the ARROW keys to select the partition or the unpartitioned space where you want to create a new partition. Press D to delete an existing partition, or press C to create a new partition.

   7. Type the size in megabytes (MB) that you want to use for the new partition, and then press ENTER, or just press ENTER to create the partition with the maximum size.

   8. Select the format option that you want to use for the partition (Recommended: NTFS), and then press ENTER.

   9. After the Windows Setup program formats the partition, follow the instructions that appear on the screen to continue installing Windows.


But, Whats a partition? And how much MB should I have?
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Husk on May 05, 2008, 09:31:21 AM
As for the cards, I can't find anything on google, There all showing pictures about taking your Monitor apart and putting a card in it. One of my friends dad's friend installed it by going somewhere in the files and folders, Such as click this then that then go to this folder etc.
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Staind on May 05, 2008, 09:32:32 AM
As for the cards, I can't find anything on google, There all showing pictures about taking your Monitor apart and putting a card in it. One of my friends dad's friend installed it by going somewhere in the files and folders, Such as click this then that then go to this folder etc.

What are you talking about here - the cards?
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Husk on May 05, 2008, 09:34:31 AM
The audio and graphic Drivers
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: TedNelly on May 05, 2008, 09:45:19 AM
Husk suggests you find someone that can show you how to reformat your hard drive.
There are just to many variables and many things that need to be considered before you go ahead with this.
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Husk on May 05, 2008, 09:48:50 AM
Mmm... Okay, I just want to get rid of all these problmes on my computer...  :'( :(
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: onlysomeone on May 05, 2008, 04:15:13 PM
Hi Husk!

Like I promised in an other topic I'll tell you what you want to know about formating a PC...

Basically the description you found is correct - but before you start you should save all your important files you have, because everything which is stored on the HDD/partition is going to be deleted! :

How to Format a Computer with Windows XP

   1. To format a computer with Windows XP or 2000, insert Windows CD and restart your computer.

   2. Your computer should automatically boot from the CD to the Windows Setup Main Menu.

   3. At the Welcome to Setup page, press ENTER.

   4. Press F8 to accept the Windows XP Licensing Agreement.

   5. If an existing Windows XP installation is detected, you are prompted to repair it. To bypass the repair, press ESC.

   6. Use the ARROW keys to select the partition or the unpartitioned space where you want to create a new partition. Press D to delete an existing partition, or press C to create a new partition.

   7. Type the size in megabytes (MB) that you want to use for the new partition, and then press ENTER, or just press ENTER to create the partition with the maximum size.

   8. Select the format option that you want to use for the partition (Recommended: NTFS), and then press ENTER.

   9. After the Windows Setup program formats the partition, follow the instructions that appear on the screen to continue installing Windows.

To answer your questions:

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But, Whats a partition? And how much MB should I have?

A partition is a part of your HDD - you can separate it into more parts...

for you it probably is the easiest and best way only to use one partition - that means that if you get asked how big the partition should be while setting up windows, you should choose the whole possible space.

or which is more probable is that there is already one existing partition (probably C:) which only needs to be formatted

that means for you: if you get to the window where windows wants to know where you want to install it, there will be at least one entry where you can install windows (mostly the first entry in the list is the partition where already is Windows installed) - so you choose that one and format it --> then install windows on this partition...

The partition where windows is going to be installed should be not too small! at least 10 GB (if possible) because basically every program is installed on this partition and also the 'swap files' and the 'private files' are stored there...

i know this is difficult (also because I'm a bad guide... :-[) but if i was you i would just try to enter the windows CD and try to go to that window just to see which entry's are there... (which options) - but take care, that you don't delete the whole system ;)

 if you need more help just ask

yours
onlysomeone
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: bob3160 on May 05, 2008, 04:54:03 PM
Husk,
A blunt but probably very effective solution for you and the safety of your computer
is for you to take your computer to a qualified repair shop.
Judging from the many posts you've made lately, your knowledge is very limited and
you may do more harm than good in trying to solve your problems.

Spend a few bucks and leave the job to a pro.  :)
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Sesame on May 05, 2008, 05:04:10 PM
Husk, it is probably good for you to listen to bob's wise counsel.  Custom-made PCs are chimeric, composed of variety of parts.  I cannot but repeat the same advice:  it would be suitable for you to ask the person who built your PC or someone who is reliable, accustomed to self-built PCs and can actually put his/her hands on your PC.

After your PC is fixed, you can come here or other security boards on the net, where you can learn how to protect your PC.  It's much easier to prevent infections rather than to get rid of them or recover PC.
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: onlysomeone on May 05, 2008, 05:22:05 PM
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A blunt but probably very effective solution for you and the safety of your computer
is for you to take your computer to a qualified repair shop.
thats of course would be a better way ;)

I forgot that its not so easy for someone who probably doesn't work with computers so often... *sry*

setting up a computer is in general not very difficult - if you have some basic knowledge in these specific things...
(although i posted some advice how to do it, I also recommend to get help from someone else...)
if you don't want to pay anyone probably some relatives or friends which did something like that already can help you...
(i personally like helping my friends setting up their computers or solving some problems...)

yours
onlysomeone
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Gouveia on May 05, 2008, 11:06:09 PM
Husk, I strongly suggest you to create two partitions. One with about 3GBs, and the other with the remaining ammount. Move all your data to the bigger partition and leave only windows on the smaller. It can be 2GB if you really want, but it can give those "Disk Full" errors more often.

You can ask "Why?". Why? Just because if your windows gets lots of errors(just like mine did and still does), you only need to formart the windows partition, and you won't need to back up all the stuff from the bigger partition...

Just some advice :D
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: bob3160 on May 05, 2008, 11:19:07 PM
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won't need to back up all the stuff from the bigger partition...
The bigger partition contains all of your personal information like My Documents.
Not exactly something to leave unprotected or without a backup.

Programs can always be re-installed. Your data, once lost, can't unless it's been backed up.
Just my 2 cents.  :)
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: DavidR on May 06, 2008, 01:32:32 AM
Totally agree with Bob if anything you could ignore the smaller partition as you in theory can reinstall windows and any programs, but your valuable data is lost of you don't back it up and have a problem.

I would also say 3GB is way too small even for XP partition. I run a pretty tight ship on the C partition (windows) and mine is still just under 4GB. I have mine set to 12GB and there should be no way it will get to that size, the last thing you want to undertake is a resizing of the windows partition.

I also echo Bobs comment about seeking professional help with a format and reinstall as they will have all the available tools to do the job. You will need your windows CD to reinstall and all security updates since your windows CD was created. This can be a lot and XP SP3 is available in some areas and that is a 350MB plus download I believe, the professional help may have this available without you having to download it.

A reformat isn't something to take lightly and I'm not sure of the problems that you have warrant a format and start from square one, a professional should be able to determine the best option.
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Lisandro on May 06, 2008, 03:56:20 AM
Programs can always be re-installed. Your data, once lost, can't unless it's been backed up.
Just my 2 cents.  :)
Yeah. I not only recommend 2 partitions... I have 4 on Vista installation
System / Programs / Setup and backup / Data and documents
More three of Linux (swap and Home) and more two of HP recovery...

Man... I have 9 partitions ;)

To backup, click Mozy on my signature and make on-line backups for free ;)
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Husk on May 06, 2008, 07:42:45 AM
Ok, I think I understand.

But how many MB's are in a GB. I'm guessing it had nothing to do with memory usage. So how many should I get for my understanding, Your all giving different answers








I checked it

I have 1 partition with around 238700 MB
and one unpartitioned one


Do I make a new one? or do I keep the same one and press whatever button I need to?
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: onlysomeone on May 06, 2008, 09:47:05 AM
1 GB = 1024 MB

I still would say 5 GB at least... but its very few (a friend of mine every times gets 'few space available on C:'-Messages because of an only 5 GB C-drive)

So i still recommend 7 GB for Windows and the rest of the available space for a second partition (for programs and so on...) (or only one partition at all - which i personally recommend for amateur computer users)

other opinions welcome :)
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Husk on May 06, 2008, 10:08:45 AM
So, I delete the one I already have?
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: onlysomeone on May 06, 2008, 10:24:23 AM
exactly... delete your partition you already have and make new ones...

BUT: deleting a partition also means that everything on this partition is away - including your OS, so you can't boot Windows any more...!

Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Husk on May 06, 2008, 10:48:05 AM
Ok, thanks
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Sesame on May 06, 2008, 11:36:13 AM
Oh...somehow I thought Husk had only one computer...my bad.

As for the amount of C drive, I don't know...if Husk needs to install huge apps such as 3D computer games, he or she needs quite lot of space, while usual office apps will find several GB enough as some people have already mentioned.
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Lisandro on May 06, 2008, 01:56:03 PM
I still would say 5 GB at least... but its very few (a friend of mine every times gets 'few space available on C:'-Messages because of an only 5 GB C-drive)
Guide him to tweak this and remove the 'low space' available messages ;)
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Sesame on May 06, 2008, 03:45:28 PM
This really depends on how do the owner use his/her PC...my PC's used area for C drive is just about  3GB but some of my acquaintances need much more disk space.  These people tend to be gamers.  This may sound crazy but a single game can require 12GB (http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System Requirements/). :o
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: onlysomeone on May 06, 2008, 04:57:14 PM
I still would say 5 GB at least... but its very few (a friend of mine every times gets 'few space available on C:'-Messages because of an only 5 GB C-drive)
Guide him to tweak this and remove the 'low space' available messages ;)

I'll try to  ;D
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Gouveia on May 06, 2008, 07:42:25 PM
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won't need to back up all the stuff from the bigger partition...
The bigger partition contains all of your personal information like My Documents.
Not exactly something to leave unprotected or without a backup.

Programs can always be re-installed. Your data, once lost, can't unless it's been backed up.
Just my 2 cents.  :)
Yeah, Backup saves you, always. But, let's assume that he doesn't have too much time in his hand and/or ways to make backups. That pretty much helps a lot. Of course, you need to make it safe, but that makes it easier in my opinion
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: bob3160 on May 07, 2008, 12:55:20 AM
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But, let's assume
Rule #1 Never assume if you do, you generally make an ass out of u and me  ;D ;D
Title: Re: How do I format a computer?
Post by: Gouveia on May 09, 2008, 04:22:12 PM
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But, let's assume
Rule #1 Never assume if you do, you generally make an ass out of u and me  ;D ;D
Good one! ;D ;D

@Rumple: There are games that need 20GB nowadays.