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Title: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on May 23, 2008, 08:38:48 AM
I recently downloaded avast 4.8 home edition. It installed quite well and performed great.

One thing bothers me though. Ever since I started using avast my vista start up considerably slowed down. My rig has vista home premium, 1.66 core2 duo & 1gig ram btw. My system reports avast takes 39 second to load and it's the one causing the slow start up of windows.

Now, I'm wondering if there is any way to correct this. Speed up avast's loading on start up. Any help on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: alanrf on May 23, 2008, 08:52:39 AM
Just wondering (as a non-Vista user but supporting them) how you obtained this detailed information on avast taking 39 seconds to load?  Can you provide details please?

By the way 39 seconds in how long for your total system load time?
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on May 23, 2008, 09:59:32 AM
Just wondering (as a non-Vista user but supporting them) how you obtained this detailed information on avast taking 39 seconds to load?  Can you provide details please?

By the way 39 seconds in how long for your total system load time?

On vista - right click 'my computer', then click 'properties', 'performance', 'advance tools'. On that window you'll see the 'performance issue' - if there's any. Mine reports 'Startup programs are causing Windows to start slowly'. Clicking it will bring up a small window that shows the program that's causing the problem. That's how I found out that avast is taking 39 sec to load. Before avast, my rig only takes less than 10 sec to fully load windows.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: alanrf on May 23, 2008, 10:11:06 AM
Most interesting, that is very much faster than one of my folks on Vista with the latest top end machine from Dell. 

Which antivirus product you had before avast loaded within that 10 seconds?
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on May 23, 2008, 10:17:53 AM
Most interesting, that is very much faster than one of my folks on Vista with the latest top end machine from Dell. 

Which antivirus product you had before avast loaded within that 10 seconds?

avg free 7.5. Any idea how to make avast load faster? I tried disabling rootkit scan on system startup but that didn't do anything at all.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: sunrisecc on May 23, 2008, 12:56:45 PM
I installed Avast 4.8 last night after having AVG 7.5 on my Vista computer. ( I did test AVG 8.0 on my XP Pro computer first). The startup is faster than before. Note, however, that I do only load the default and network servers  portions (as I did with AVG). All computers, Vista and XP, load either faster or the same time as with AVG.

The only problem I have seen is when the VRDB is built, I allow it to complete the very first time. Then I use the screen-saver mode.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: alanrf on May 23, 2008, 12:59:57 PM
The rootkit scan is currently set to be performed 8 minutes after system start and lasts a very short time (see the avast logs folder aswAr.log for details of start and end time of the scan).
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: Lisandro on May 23, 2008, 02:09:39 PM
I tried disabling rootkit scan on system startup but that didn't do anything at all.
Don't do that... the rootkit scan is being performed 8 minutes after load up, it can't be due to the startup slow. You can disable the scanning of dll (libraries) while loading. See Standard Shield settings.
I suppose you've uninstalled AVG 7.5 before installing avast...
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: fazio93 on May 23, 2008, 10:49:47 PM
sorry for interrupting, but can is it possible to edit the delay time of the rootkit scanner?
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: Lisandro on May 23, 2008, 11:26:01 PM
sorry for interrupting, but can is it possible to edit the delay time of the rootkit scanner?
Yes: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=1647.msg21553#msg21553
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: DavidR on May 24, 2008, 12:08:13 AM
sorry for interrupting, but can is it possible to edit the delay time of the rootkit scanner?

Yes there is as Tech mentions, but I would have to ask why you feel this is necessary, e.g. are you experiencing a problem and if so what ?

The delay has been tweaked over the beta trials and initial program update to the current delay so as to be the least obtrusive.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: fazio93 on May 24, 2008, 12:27:57 AM
sorry for interrupting, but can is it possible to edit the delay time of the rootkit scanner?

Yes there is as Tech mentions, but I would have to ask why you feel this is necessary, e.g. are you experiencing a problem and if so what ?

The delay has been tweaked over the beta trials and initial program update to the current delay so as to be the least obtrusive.

just wondering. if it has been tweaked, i will leave it then
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: DavidR on May 24, 2008, 01:28:52 AM
I personally wouldn't touch the default setting (8 minutes after boot) for this unless there was a reason, e.g. experiencing a problem.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on May 24, 2008, 03:21:33 AM
I tried disabling rootkit scan on system startup but that didn't do anything at all.
Don't do that... the rootkit scan is being performed 8 minutes after load up, it can't be due to the startup slow. You can disable the scanning of dll (libraries) while loading. See Standard Shield settings.
I suppose you've uninstalled AVG 7.5 before installing avast...

Ok, I turned rootkit scanning back on, but can you tell me how to disable the scanning of dll while loading? Can't seem to find an option for that. Is that the 'Scan dynamic libraries on load (Windows XP+ only)'? 

Yes, I uninstalled avg 7.5 before installing avast.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on May 24, 2008, 03:47:22 AM
Well, I disabled Scan dynamic libraries on load, but it didn't changed anything. avast still takes 39 sec to load.

Now I'm getting really desperate.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: ady4um on May 24, 2008, 05:35:16 PM
I would suggest to let Avast scan dll's, not to override this. After changing that to the default (let Avast scan them), at least for troubleshooting purpose, maybe you could try:

1) Rightclick the Avast Icon in the Notification Area
2) Program Settings...
3) In the left panel, choose Troubleshooting
4) Check the "Delay loading of avast! services after other system services" option
5) Click "OK", close every other program and save your work and reboot.

This option may help you boot faster, but also it has the potential to let some malware get into your system and Avast not chatching it.

If this option helps you, you may try to locate what other services and/or programs are loading theirselfs. Avast is trying to scan those, and that slows the windows boot time. If you can identify the "problematic" proccess, another solution for you could be to delay *that* proccess, instead of avast. By doing so, the boot time will be fine, and avast will scan that other proccess only when it starts (that is, delayed).

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on May 28, 2008, 05:22:51 AM
thanks guys for all the help/suggestions. now i'm wondering if i'm the only one on vista with this kind of problem. i don't see a post in this forum with this kind of predicament.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: Lisandro on May 28, 2008, 04:00:03 PM
avast still takes 39 sec to load.
What other resident programs are being load?
What other startup programs are running?
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on May 29, 2008, 03:40:31 AM
avast still takes 39 sec to load.
What other resident programs are being load?
What other startup programs are running?

My start up includes:

Resident - Windows Defender, Synaptics Pointing Device Driver, Lenovo Hotkey.

Additional Apps - Comodo firewall Pro, Spam Fighter, Ypops, and lastly, avast.

Again, before avast I never encountered slow start up. I was on avg free 7.5 then.

I tried all the things you guys here said I should try but to no avail.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: Lisandro on May 29, 2008, 05:06:20 PM
I bet on Comodo firewall interaction with avast...
If you uninstall Comodo just for a while, will it help?
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: fazio93 on May 29, 2008, 10:44:21 PM
I bet on Comodo firewall interaction with avast...
If you uninstall Comodo just for a while, will it help?

never had a conflict between the both of them
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: Lisandro on May 29, 2008, 11:52:11 PM
never had a conflict between the both of them
Lucky you... from time to time... not only me but all avast users has issues with Comodo. Sometimes due to avast, most of the times due to Comodo to inject code into dll loaded in memory...
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: fazio93 on May 30, 2008, 01:12:22 AM
never had a conflict between the both of them
Lucky you... from time to time... not only me but all avast users has issues with Comodo. Sometimes due to avast, most of the times due to Comodo to inject code into dll loaded in memory...

are you talking about CFP 2.4 or 3.0
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: Lisandro on May 30, 2008, 02:52:39 AM
Both. And both XP and Vista.
Without Defense+ it's a poor firewall imho. With it, it becomes hard to common users to administrate it. I could use Comodo in Vista just for few days and have a lot of problems.
PCTools shows to be more stable and simple on Vista.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on May 30, 2008, 04:33:08 AM
Hmmm... So are you guys saying comodo & avast doesn't go well together? Pity, I really like those two programs. So is there someone here who found a way to make this two programs work harmoniously together?
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: DavidR on May 30, 2008, 01:35:49 PM
That isn't really what is being said, this is Tech own personal experience with comodo, but there are many forum members using it without problem. Like anything there are going to be cases were it doesn't work out for some people and that may be down th the additional software they may be using.

Each system is different in some ways, so the best way for you to tell is to try it and see how it works for you.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: fazio93 on May 30, 2008, 11:06:45 PM
but if it does work good for you, keep it. it is a GREAT combo of FW and AV.  :)
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on June 02, 2008, 04:00:26 PM
but if it does work good for you, keep it. it is a GREAT combo of FW and AV.  :)

It does work for me. Only thing that's bugging me is the 39 sec loading of avast during boot up. I guess the only thing I can do is wait for the next version and hope the guys from alwil will do something about it.
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: Lisandro on June 02, 2008, 04:49:48 PM
I guess the only thing I can do is wait for the next version and hope the guys from alwil will do something about it.
Please, don't forget to warn Comodo team also... last two times I had problems, the issue was in Comodo, accepting or not, due to code injection to dll memory space of other applications (like avast dlls).
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: SaintMyk on June 04, 2008, 04:54:39 PM
I guess the only thing I can do is wait for the next version and hope the guys from alwil will do something about it.
Please, don't forget to warn Comodo team also... last two times I had problems, the issue was in Comodo, accepting or not, due to code injection to dll memory space of other applications (like avast dlls).

I went on to post my avast problem at the comodo forum. They were quick to give their solutions but nothing helped.
I'm still getting this:
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d11/mykman/performance_info.jpg)
Title: Re: avast 4.8 slowing my vista start up
Post by: FulValBot on June 07, 2008, 07:18:32 PM
uhm i think that mouse lags is not fixed in this version of avast...

how can i fix it? i have vista 32 bit ultimate.

is caused by standard protection module also with normal sensitive, not only when elevate sensitive is selected ...