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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: sas8n on April 03, 2004, 05:02:40 PM
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Microsoft has a lot of faults but it is a serious company...
The next question will be: does the antivirus companies infect the Internet with virus just to sell their products?
This is conspiracy theory...
Live is short to live, be happy and virus-free ;D
Just my opinion 8)
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technical, i think some AV companies (mainly Mcafee and Symantec) do infect the internet just to sell their product. However I dont think F-secure or ALWIL does ;)
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technical, i think some AV companies (mainly Mcafee and Symantec) do infect the internet just to sell their product.
Well, this is one of the oldest nonsenses on the net... i have heard this so many times that I can't count it anymore - still there is NO proof of it - and believe me if this is true, there will be definitely some sign of evidence.
It is very difficult to build the TRUST between users and the (security) company - it really takes years. And such trust could be lost very quickly if there will be such foolish behaviour as virus distribution!
Not to speak about the problem that there are so many new viruses in the wild nowadays that most AV people wish to see this amount MUCH MUCH lower ;)
Pavel
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It is very difficult to build the TRUST between users and the (security) company - it really takes years.
Well, in your case was just few hours to believe in avast! ;D
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pavel calm down! I just stated My opinion. and My opinion is not factual!
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pavel calm down! I just stated My opinion. and My opinion is not factual!
I am quite calm, really ;D
I resigned to bother with this one many years ago!
Pavel
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Well, look at it this way. What do you think would happen to any AV vendor if it was determined that they were distributing viruses in their product?
Firstly, the government would shut them down.
Secondly, the lawsuits would ruin them for good.
Thirdly, there could be criminal penalties.
Fourth, it would tend to tick me off. ;D
No responsible vendor would do such a thing. Are there irresponsible vendors? No, not really.....just less capable. AV vendors are fighting for a customer base and it certainly would not help them to even have such a "tint" of an accusation directed at them.
I do believe that in the "race" to keep up with competition, shody products are released before they are ready.
Avast is truly in a league by itself. The Avast team is careful at what it does and does the best it can before a release to have it bug free. From the very first time I used Avast, I knew if was different and special. I have not only been a long time user, but have spent many many hours on this Forum helping others get to know Avast. The time has been well worth it.
The success of this Forum is proof of the product. More users come here to laud Avast (praise) then I have seen on other AV forums.
Long live Avast!! and praise to all the Avast Team.
techie
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yes Long live avast!
I agree they often release a new version before its ready. Avast and F-Secure are an exception to this. both great AV products
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Sure, even avast has had some slip-ups ... like the program update a couple of sub-versions back that messed up outgoing Eudora, or the definitions update not long afterwards which generated a lot of false-positives.
But those things always get fixed very quickly with avast, thanks to the efforts of the great team plus input here from users, which after all is how most bugs get discovered and reported.
Best to all,
Mike
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Tr00 tr00,in Norton (or Symantec products in general) i still see 3-4 years old bugs and missing software capabilities...
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Well, look at it this way. What do you think would happen to any AV vendor if it was determined that they were distributing viruses in their product?
Firstly, the government would shut them down.
Secondly, the lawsuits would ruin them for good.
Thirdly, there could be criminal penalties.
Fourth, it would tend to tick me off. ;D
You wrote it!! Now let's Lookat it!
It sounds like no one here watches X files or looks around to what is going on?
#1. The govermant get fat off thies Co's. Thy can aford Lobby Groups.
#2. Didint The President Of the US con Yous to spend billions on a war ! It's a fact the pepoel responsobel for 911 dont even have A country [over thier who does?] It'a been a fite, WAR for centuries!!!!
You know Im glad that Im not Stupied like Bear; a bear will stick his paw in the hornets nest to where I whod AVOID IT?!?! Sadam did NOT bring down the towers the Bushe's DID so what do you think littel bushes action acomplishd It will be worse than 911 Thanks bush have a nother Cold one!!!! ???
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Hahaha... you guys are a way, way off topic. Guy who started this poll meant on something totaly different... Probably, he is getting a tons of e-mails infected with virus attachments and what's even worse, they are signed like they are comming from MICROSOFT.
EVERYBODY knows that those e-mails aren't from Microsoft, but some random addresses that somebody out there is using to send viruses...
No, 199% sure, Microsoft doesn't want you to receive infected e-mails.
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No, 199% sure, Microsoft doesn't want you to receive infected e-mails.
REALLY??! WELL I am 400% sure BILL WROTE THE OS X TROJAN!!!! It s just what he wants for apple to loose their ground so he can rune 100% of all computers!!
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I believe he has enough and more than enough money, so he doesn't have to go so low... I still believe that those stories are for kids...
Let's get back 15-16 years ago... Same thing with Sinclair ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64... We tried with all our power to defend Spectrum and to find all those wonderful attributes that little ZX gave us... but, no matter how hard we tried, Commodore was always few steps ahead... silent, but STRONG... it reminds me on todays PCs... they may have so many bad things to say about them, but still they are number one in whole wide world... selling and popularity, both...
Quality of Macintosh is great (GREAT) and unbelievable, but the price is also something to talk about... hey Mac guys, lower those prices a little bit... well, a little bit more...
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I think that they hurry writing code and it is the users who pay the price -new exploit for IE6 yesterday see:
http://www.net-security.org/advisory.php?id=3184
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Quality of Macintosh is great (GREAT) and unbelievable, but the price is also something to talk about... hey Mac guys, lower those prices a little bit... well, a little bit more
Actually that may happen in the NEAR future. Apple has always had it tough and needed to price the hardware that high to keep alive. But now that the iPOD and iTUNES are a big success I can really see the price on the iMac and eMac models coming down to near PC prices.
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MS has nothing to gain from viruses (unless they can find someway to infect linux and mac). Though they are great at marketing I think they are just plain incompetent when it comes to security. Alwil makes AV mainly for servers and has a lot to gain from keeping the internet virus free. Nortons and McAffee have much to gain from virus outbreaks because their core business is home users who often only buy their products once there has been an outbreak. Think about it?
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(unless they can find someway to infect linux and mac).
Not likely to happen. Linux is a very well build rock solid OS. Only MAc OS X Can out Preform it. (and Mac OS X Is build off of UNIX)
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Linux ? 100% safe ?
http://news.com.com/2100-1016-993278.html (http://news.com.com/2100-1016-993278.html)
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Unix has been very secure. Mac and Linux is based on it. Though Linux is open source and all its code is out there for any one to look at. I simply stated that IF they could find a way to infect them. It would take some of the heat off MS. But I don't think it will be an easy job. Besides I don't think anyone at MS knows enough about security to write a virus. :)
And yes that last sentence was a serious statement. Just look at their record so far!
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Unix has been very secure.
And not to mention is VERY Stable! These two reasons are exactly whay jobbs wanted to use UNIX as the Base for OS X.
(Note Mac OS 9.2.2 and previous are NOT Based on UNIX)
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My mistake. I thought previous versions of Mac OS were based on Unix. Guess my ignorance is showing again. :)
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No, eariler versions of Mac OS were based on Guess what..... Eariler Versions of mac OS. So each one improved on the other and it was a very good OS.
EX. OS 7 was built from os 6. OS 8 was made from OS 7 and so on.
Jobbs saw the oppuritunity to blow microsoft out of the water with an OS based on UNIX. and he succeded. the so called LONGHORN project of microsoft is to try and match the features of OS X. So the windows vs mac war continues.