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Title: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Marc57 on September 02, 2008, 07:04:55 PM
Google will launch a Web browser called Chrome that will take on Microsoft’s Internet Explorer and apparently Mozilla’s Firefox, which the search giant essentially funds.


http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=9847&tag=nl.e539

Just what the world needs, Another Web Browser.  ::)

Update: Google confirmed that Chrome will launch on Tuesday in a beta that will cover 100 countries
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: hithere on September 02, 2008, 07:28:45 PM
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Just what the world needs, Another Web Browser.  ::)

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It is not just "another web browser". If you read carefully what it does and what are benefits of using it over any other browser, you will see that advantages are plain enormous.

http://blogoscoped.com.nyud.net/google-chrome (http://blogoscoped.com.nyud.net/google-chrome)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Lisandro on September 02, 2008, 08:16:47 PM
Bye bye Firefox? :'(
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: polonus on September 02, 2008, 08:37:52 PM
Hi Tech,

Here you can have the first screenshot:
http://valleywag.com/5044054/first-browser-screenshots-from-google

Download starts shortly from now, and will get more attention than the Flock start-up,
I'm anxious what is like security wise, and if NoScript will be brought aboard?
Or this is the victory of commercial drives over privacy and security.
With Google at the helm, it also means "Google under the radar" I assume,
"Resistance....is futile. You are...irrelevant. You will become one with The Borg",

polonus
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: DavidR on September 02, 2008, 08:40:04 PM
Bye bye Firefox? :'(

No I don't think that will be the case, this is very early days and some of the stuff mentioned is already available in FF 3.0.1 and IE8 even.

No doubt it will put the cat amongst the pigeons, whilst add-ons are mentioned there will be no way it would have the same add-on support as firefox, which has thousands. Unless there is going to be some way they can port them to Chrome with the add-on authors consent ???

As one of the articles mentions it is more likely to hit the likes of Opera and Safari for windows and it could be a joint effort firefox/chrome to squeeze IE's market share. Or that in the future perhaps firefox and chrome could merge.

So it is still very early days and much to speculate about, but certainly nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: polonus on September 02, 2008, 08:48:10 PM
Hi DavidR,

Some see it your way: http://gigaom.com/2008/09/01/mozilla-not-worried-about-google-browser/
The open source developer relies on the lucrative deal it has made with the Search Company.
Mozilla comments: "We’ll continue to compete in the browser world, and we’ll continue to do well. We’ll continue to produce a product that people choose, and trust and understand is theirs. We’ll continue to do this as part of our overall mission — building an Internet where individual, civic and social value are paramount.

Competition is seldom comfortable, but it forces us to do our best. Firefox 3 is a terrific product and there’s much more to come. We’re just beginning to touch the surface of what Mozilla can accomplish. The best is yet to come." So bye bye Firefox or Flock, it is a bit early to say this,

Here is the download link: http://www.google.com/chrome/eula.html
I have it installed to try..

polonus
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: DavidR on September 02, 2008, 08:53:14 PM
Even as I post this, I can hear on the evening TV news they are pumping the new Google browser and it wasn't a short piece either. So they certainly have got their message into the media and it isn't even available yet.

Perhaps they are going for the most downloads in a 24 hour period record (held by firefox) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: polonus on September 02, 2008, 09:11:05 PM
Hi DavidR,

It is available and I have downloaded it, I wait for reactions before I launch it. Yes download has begun, but you cannot confirm that because of your Internet connection. This the download site:
http://www.google.com/chrome

Logo of the browser see below, so you can now Google with Google!

polonus
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 02, 2008, 09:35:54 PM
I am planning to use it in Sandboxie, how will Avast web shield do with Google Chrome? ::)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: polonus on September 02, 2008, 09:39:23 PM
Hi gdiloren,

See the video first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnZxeR-lIvM

polonus
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: MWassef on September 02, 2008, 09:45:17 PM
it's out  :)
http://www.download.com/Google-Chrome/3000-2356_4-10881381.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody&cdlPid=10881380
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Lisandro on September 02, 2008, 09:49:50 PM
Installed... but I'll miss extensions, themes, configurability... :P
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: RejZoR on September 02, 2008, 09:56:30 PM
Basic idea is good but they still need to walk a long way till they'll catch Opera or Firefox.
I mean there is basically nothing you can set in it. There isn't even ANY kind of bookmark editor.
I'm looking forward for new versions but i'm staying with Firefox.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Lisandro on September 02, 2008, 09:57:01 PM
But I must admit... it's very very fast...
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: drhayden1 on September 02, 2008, 10:19:50 PM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/28u5kyp.png)
gonna try it and see how it compares to firefox and such
hope my computer doesn't turn into googleware ;D
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: polonus on September 02, 2008, 10:44:12 PM
Hi Dan,

There are no extensions like NoScript, ABP (off-course not), and Track-Me-Not (a to prevent Google from tracking you extension) will not be available for a long time. It has black- and whitelisting, a sandbox against malware, a panic button etc. Homepage in it is a riddle but I think it is Google search page by default.

Google was recently criticized with a report on privacy  that had these conclusions:

    [...]throughout our research we have found numerous deficiencies and hostilities in Google’s approach to privacy that go well beyond those of other organizations. While a number of companies share some of these negative elements, none comes close to achieving status as an endemic threat to privacy. This is in part due to the diversity and specificity of Google’s product range and the ability of the company to share extracted data between these tools, and in part it is due to Google’s market dominance and the sheer size of its user base. Google’s status in the ranking is also due to its aggressive use of invasive or potentially invasive technologies and techniques.

Google's reaction to the report : “Privacy International is being supported by Microsoft”.
Giorgio Maone commented:
@The single impressive advance in GChrome which I can see is its "Task manager": at this moment I've got an empty tab and a random MySpace page open, and this is what it shows:

Browser: 36MB / 1% CPU
New Empty Tab: 11MB / 0% CPU
Tab MySpace: 26MB / 0% CPU
Plug-in Shockwave Flash: 68MB / 5%

Damian
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: neal62 on September 02, 2008, 11:01:10 PM
I am planning to use it in Sandboxie, how will Avast web shield do with Google Chrome? ::)

I am using "Chrome" right now with Avast and Webshield activated. So far no problems using this browser with WinXP, SP3. Will wait and see.  :)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: DavidR on September 02, 2008, 11:19:58 PM
Yes but is the web shield actually scanning the content, check the detailed view, last scanned and scanned total fields ?

If not you would need to edit the avast4.ini and add the OptinProcess line.

[WebScanner]
OptinProcess=executableFileName.exe
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 02, 2008, 11:30:42 PM
Yes but is the web shield actually scanning the content, check the detailed view, last scanned and scanned total fields ?

If not you would need to edit the avast4.ini and add the OptinProcess line.

[WebScanner]
OptinProcess=executableFileName.exe
David, can you be more specific? What is exactly the text to copy/paste? :P
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 02, 2008, 11:37:33 PM
I like it. I can go anywhere. It's fast. It's sandboxed so no need for Ashweb to scan it and slow things down! ::)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: polonus on September 02, 2008, 11:41:20 PM
Hi gdiloren,

I write this posting now using GChrome. Spelling corrector is Google's, but I can search with scandoo.com installed, so have the green tags there for safe sites. The browser feels good with all Google goodies, but made for other users than Fx has in mind, more the "click and go" folks,

Damian
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Marc57 on September 02, 2008, 11:44:46 PM
For those who have it installed, are you able to move your bookmarks from another browser to it?
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: drhayden1 on September 02, 2008, 11:57:12 PM
its did mine from Firefox-had a prompt asking me whether to or no ;)
but the avast webshield doesn't work with it
how can you get the webshield to work with the gooooooogle brower ??? ::)
Hi Kissman ;)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 03, 2008, 12:00:33 AM
The setup file installation asks you wether to import or not your fav from your default browser, you then can also add/delete them. Isn't Chrome in sandboxes:no need for an AV here. :-X
I note a pop up screen and some slow surfing on changing domain. Click wait, it's going to end up there.... ;)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: polonus on September 03, 2008, 12:04:14 AM
Hi marc57,

That is done automattically when you install the beast (manually you can change this below where you see the wrench icon 5 down that is)- . Also go to options, then advanced options and change the cookies policy to - excluse third party cookies, for going back to default that option is below there, the browser has an inbuilt spell checker,

pol
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: drhayden1 on September 03, 2008, 12:29:30 AM
the webshield will work
go to options in the browser
change proxy settings
under advanced in LAN
put in the http slot-localhost
and in the port -12080
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: bob3160 on September 03, 2008, 12:33:20 AM
the webshield will work
go to options in the browser
change proxy settings
under advanced in LAN
put in the http slot-localhost
and in the port -12080
It's nice to know that you where able to follow my instructions....  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 03, 2008, 12:36:35 AM
Hope it works. Hard to tell if FF is really faster than chrome or vice-versa 8)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: bob3160 on September 03, 2008, 12:39:43 AM
Hope it works. Hard to tell if FF is really faster than chrome or vice-versa 8)
Speed wise, there isn't any comparison. Chrome runs circles around Firefox in the speed department.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Marc57 on September 03, 2008, 12:53:09 AM
Hi marc57,

That is done automattically when you install the beast (manually you can change this below where you see the wrench icon 5 down that is)- . Also go to options, then advanced options and change the cookies policy to - excluse third party cookies, for going back to default that option is below there, the browser has an inbuilt spell checker,

pol

Thanks polonus.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Lisandro on September 03, 2008, 01:00:09 AM
For those who have it installed, are you able to move your bookmarks from another browser to it?
Yes, from Firefox.

So no need for Ashweb to scan it and slow things down! ::)
WebShield is working perfectly. No need to change anything into avast4.ini file.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: DavidR on September 03, 2008, 01:05:16 AM
Yes but is the web shield actually scanning the content, check the detailed view, last scanned and scanned total fields ?

If not you would need to edit the avast4.ini and add the OptinProcess line.

[WebScanner]
OptinProcess=executableFileName.exe
David, can you be more specific? What is exactly the text to copy/paste? :P

I though I had been quite specific but made some assumptions that the information would be enough for you.

Which is why I said"check the detailed view, last scanned and scanned total fields," if it is you obviously don't have to do anything. Which appears to be the case, assuming you didn't change the browser to use the proxy (which is effectively the same as editing the avast4.ini).
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 03, 2008, 01:38:48 AM
the webshield will work
go to options in the browser
change proxy settings
under advanced in LAN
put in the http slot-localhost
and in the port -12080
Thanks David,
I did what quoted and I think it did the trick... 8)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: drhayden1 on September 03, 2008, 02:36:27 AM
which there was a customize toolbar function or something so you can have a home page button and such
maybe in future versions ??? ::) ;)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: drhayden1 on September 03, 2008, 03:04:43 AM
guess they won't
Quote
which there was a customize toolbar function or something so you can have a home page button and such
Chrome’s interface has some bold changes from the standard browser design. These new features enhance the Web experience, but they will require some adjustment on the part of users. For instance, Chrome does away with most menus and toolbar icons to give maximum screen space for the Web pages themselves. Also, Google has merged the address bar, where you type in Web addresses, with the search box, where you type in search terms. This unified feature is called the Omnibox.
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/52190/First-Test-of-Chrome-Google%E2%80%99s-New-Browser;_ylt=Av2K.0NAR0iCy3vsBO.wRS67YWsA?tickers=goog,msft,aapl
gee-answered my own question ::) ;)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: .: Mac :. on September 03, 2008, 03:16:26 AM
But I must admit... it's very very fast...
Hope it works. Hard to tell if FF is really faster than chrome or vice-versa 8)
Speed wise, there isn't any comparison. Chrome runs circles around Firefox in the speed department.

Did anyone notice that its based on WebKit (Safari's rendering engine) :P?

Edit: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/09/01/google_planning_new_chrome_browser_based_on_webkit.html
Quote
The report says the new Chrome browser will combine Apple's Webkit, Google's Gears, and a new JavaScript virtual machine called V8, intended to dramatically speed up the performance of JavaScript code, particularly the code used in building significant web apps. The document outlines that Google's Chrome team selected Webkit for the same reason Android developers did: it's fast, simple, uses memory efficiently, and "it was easy for new browser developers to learn to make the code base work."


And im sure the fact that Google's CEO is on Apple's Board of directors didn't hurt either ;)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: hithere on September 03, 2008, 04:32:36 AM
which there was a customize toolbar function or something so you can have a home page button and such
maybe in future versions ??? ::) ;)

There is an option to show Home button and it's not even hidden. Options / Basics / Home page section

(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6996/73637305rv6.th.jpg) (http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=73637305rv6.jpg)

This browser rules. So fast, so reliable I'm loving it. Little quirks will be ironed out once this amazing browser goes gold.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: YoKenny on September 03, 2008, 04:39:36 AM
Bye bye Firefox? :'(
That's always been my motto.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: wyrmrider on September 03, 2008, 05:26:31 AM
Those of you that love ad-sense
and are aware of Google's purchase of OINGO
should BVVC about the privacy aspects of dealing with GOOGLE, G-Mail, etc.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Sesame on September 03, 2008, 10:46:46 AM
Reading some early reviews on the net, it does seem to do quite a lot of things "automatically."  I like tweaking software as well as hardware, so, if Google thinks Firefox is way too far customizable for their intention, then, it simply means their needs and my needs don't meet each other.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: jerry12 on September 03, 2008, 12:00:12 PM
it is faster than IE but it is probably me i like IE better i guess because that's all i have used in the past i have FF and opera on my computer but seldom use them. one thing that i missed was the settings that i could control i am sure i didn't give it enough time.  ???
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: drhayden1 on September 03, 2008, 12:13:15 PM
Quote
[quoteThere is an option to show Home button and it's not even hidden. Options / Basics / Home page section
thanks....garfield needs some glasses perhaps 8) ;)

Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Faizfast6 on September 03, 2008, 03:09:00 PM
Seeing the name "Chrome" makes me think of a Firefox component. I'll be sticking to Firefox.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Marc57 on September 03, 2008, 05:31:00 PM
it is faster than IE but it is probably me i like IE better i guess because that's all i have used in the past i have FF and opera on my computer but seldom use them. one thing that i missed was the settings that i could control i am sure i didn't give it enough time.  ???

Same here jerry, I'll stick with IE.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Marc57 on September 03, 2008, 05:42:34 PM
New Topic here:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=38414.0
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: CharleyO on September 03, 2008, 07:13:59 PM
***

Since this is Google ... be prepared for unwanted ads, cookies galore, and possibly spam ... maybe not now but it will happen eventually.


***
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: wyrmrider on September 03, 2008, 07:33:16 PM
not just spam but targeted spam to enhance your internet experience
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Faizfast6 on September 03, 2008, 11:22:11 PM
Guess what,

Chrome uses WebKit as it's rendering engine which is also used by Safari. But I'll still stick to Safari for Windows and Firefox.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: RejZoR on September 04, 2008, 12:36:02 AM
Not sure whats so great about Safari compared to Chrome. If i'd had to chose between these two, i'd go with Chrome anytime.
Even in this early stage. It's different though when you compare it with FF and Opera.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 04, 2008, 01:49:54 AM
From what I gather, this forum tends to say:"stay with FF 3.0.1, you could go for Opera, avoid Chrome and upmost IE 7 or 8". Am I right?   ???
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: rdmaloyjr on September 04, 2008, 02:39:42 AM
I'm staying with Opera (http://www.filehippo.com/download_opera/4546/) & Scroogle Scraper (http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm). 8)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: bunk on September 04, 2008, 02:42:11 AM
I think i'll just stay with FF 2 as it works well for me, and is more stable than the others i've tried.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 04, 2008, 04:31:42 AM
I think i'll just stay with FF 2 as it works well for me, and is more stable than the others i've tried.
But shouldn't you use FF 3.0.1 for extra security??? May be you run win 98?
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: .: Mac :. on September 04, 2008, 04:31:46 AM
Not sure whats so great about Safari compared to Chrome. If i'd had to chose between these two, i'd go with Chrome anytime.
Even in this early stage. It's different though when you compare it with FF and Opera.
Well Chrome uses Safari's Rendering engine (WebKit), so when you use Chrome you are really using mostly the same engine as Safari :).
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: RejZoR on September 04, 2008, 08:43:00 AM
Not really. It's WebKit indeed, but JS engine is completelly Google based (JS V8 Engine) and from what i read it's far more multithreaded oriented than the one in any other browser (including Safari).
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: bunk on September 04, 2008, 12:17:50 PM
No gdiloren, I use XP....... Freshly installed on one of these in fact: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0288084

There are multiple reasons that I havn't updated to FF3 yet, one being that people are having issues viewing various forum pages in other forums i'm in. And the ones over there that have switched, have complained about the way FF3 functions all the time, most of them either have switched back to FF2, or wish they had.

I do beleive I have good enough security set up now, that I dont have to rely on a browser for it, although FF is far superior in security than IE, and I do like the added security it provides.

Most of you guys here are pretty good techs, and like myself, you can sort these issues out fairly quick with the newer versions of things, but the common users are in fact having a lot of problems with FF3.

It's just another headache I dont need at the moment.......  ;)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Faizfast6 on September 04, 2008, 03:45:40 PM
I don't have any problems with forums on FF 3.0.1 on both XP and Ubuntu but I think I never been to forums often since then.

But I have to agree with you about stability, FF 3.0 crashes more often then FF 2.0 but it's still an early release.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: .: Mac :. on September 04, 2008, 08:06:11 PM
Not really. It's WebKit indeed, but JS engine is completelly Google based (JS V8 Engine) and from what i read it's far more multithreaded oriented than the one in any other browser (including Safari).

I know it has a different JS engine, thats why I said "Mostly" the same engine as safari ;)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: polonus on September 04, 2008, 08:26:18 PM
Hi forum members,

I was contemplating the subject of this thread long enough to come up with an alternate thought.
With all the inevitable teething and security problems that will occur Why would Google push their own browser?

Its simple they taken (literally) code from Firefox 3 stripped out the Gecko rendering engine and replace it with WebKit rendering engine, so its using the same technique as their upcoming Android platform (technically its more standards compliment than gecko), it natively leverages their gears tech and has a nice sandbox feature (I suspect based on their GreenBorder acquisition) for when “pages go’ bad” not bringing your entire browser down just the tab.

Now the biggest downside … it’s not extendable – no extensions – no Ad-block plus! Now let’s revisit the question again.

Why would Google push their own browser?

Their not worried about IE .... their worried about Firefox getting market share!

polonus
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: chargers on September 04, 2008, 11:01:52 PM
i don't care if they made ie 20, opera 20.5,or safari OX 100 there's nothing that is going to compare or beat the big bad FOX.just deal with it ,live with it ,just handle the damn truth!!!!!!!!! it's all about firefox plain an simple .....
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 05, 2008, 12:18:08 AM
I go for it but let's see next year. 8)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Lisandro on September 05, 2008, 12:20:12 AM
I couldn't find anywhere the flexibility and the configurability of Firefox extensions...
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: hithere on September 05, 2008, 02:42:11 AM
i don't care if they made ie 20, opera 20.5,or safari OX 100 there's nothing that is going to compare or beat the big bad FOX.just deal with it ,live with it ,just handle the damn truth!!!!!!!!! it's all about firefox plain an simple .....

You get exactly the same effect as if you put a collar on horse's head. It is not plain and simple as you think it is and Firefox is not the best browser out there.

I couldn't find anywhere the flexibility and the configurability of Firefox extensions...

Of course you can not get them, yet. Google Chrome is in early beta stage, what to expect at this point? Let give it some time and I am almost 100% sure developers will start working on it just like they swarmed around firefox. No question, Chrome is The Fastest browser out there. Not safe enough ? Well, maybe that's true, but just find me one that's 100% safe. There is no safe browser and it will never be, you have to live with it. When IE 8 comes out, I am  positive, the very next day someone will come up with dozen of links saying about all vulnerabilities and security holes they have discovered. This is becoming so boring. Yawn!
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Lisandro on September 05, 2008, 03:11:47 AM
Of course you can not get them, yet. Google Chrome is in early beta stage, what to expect at this point?
I'm not married with Firefox... I wish Chrome get better and better... maybe I drop Firefox.
Right now, it's far away from the best point. What I can say from a lot of other Google tools is that configurability and flexibility aren't their better. They make simple (and very good) products, not flexible ones.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: rdmaloyjr on September 05, 2008, 03:32:13 AM
While there isn't a browser that's 100% safe, I think Opera is the safest browser. :)

Opera is the friendliest, easiest browser to use.  It's a delight to surf with Opera.

I've never used Chrome, but Opera is the fastest browser I've used.  K-Meleon is very fast, but suffers from many of FF's short comings.

Of all the browsers I've used, the one I liked the least was Safari.

The Linux browser I liked best is Konqueror.  (I was never able to try Opera on Linux.)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: chargers on September 05, 2008, 03:34:01 AM
how in the hell are you going to say chrome is the fastest browser out there?are you alright are you sane?it hasn't even been out 2 days,i don't understand why people can't get it through there thick skull!!!!!!!!!firefox,eat it ,swallow it ,live with it


chargers #1 and firefox evangelist
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: rdmaloyjr on September 05, 2008, 03:40:14 AM
Ooops!  I thought Charger's comment was directed at me.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: .: Mac :. on September 05, 2008, 03:52:03 AM
While there isn't a browser that's 100% safe, I think Opera is the safest browser. :)

Opera is the friendliest, easiest browser to use.  It's a delight to surf with Opera.

I've never used Chrome, but Opera is the fastest browser I've used.  K-Meleon is very fast, but suffers from many of FF's short comings.

Of all the browsers I've used, the one I liked the least was Safari.

The Linux browser I liked best is Konqueror.  (I was never able to try Opera on Linux.)

I used to use Opera, very fast browser. But I remember it had a memory leak in the Mac version and thats why I quit using it at the time. Maybe time to download it again.

As for the safest browser, I think pretty much all the major browsers (apart from IE) are Safe to use. Afterall browsing habits have a big impact on security, if you visit questionable sites you will eventually get exploited/infected no matter what the browser is since all have vulnerabilities.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: bob3160 on September 05, 2008, 04:00:31 AM
how in the hell are you going to say chrome is the fastest browser out there?are you alright are you sane?it hasn't even been out 2 days,i don't understand why people can't get it through there thick skull!!!!!!!!!firefox,eat it ,swallow it ,live with it


chargers #1 and firefox evangelist
That's nothing more than being a "Fan Boy"
With that attitude, you'll never discover anything new.
Chrome is much faster than Firefox. Easy to use and I've found it very stable even if it's still a beta release.
(Oh, I forgot, it's from Google and most of their stuff is still beta.....)
It's currently running as my default browser.  :)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: chargers on September 05, 2008, 04:01:56 AM
same here mac i have opera installed but don't use it cause it still has a memory leak on my windows vista.one tab open 130 to 150K!!!!rediculous!!!i'll say it once again firefox #1
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: chargers on September 05, 2008, 04:04:01 AM
well good luck bob enjoy( chrome what a joke)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: drhayden1 on September 05, 2008, 04:24:35 AM
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This is becoming so boring. Yawn!
everyone is different in everything
that's why there are so many choices out there in everything
just go to the grocery store and look at all the cereal's
you have your choices-eat what you like
same as browsers-use what you like
I admit Chrome is fast- but so is Garfield-but i'm still using Firefox and Opera ;)
page 6 on this thread coming soon :o
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: hithere on September 05, 2008, 04:29:23 AM
how in the hell are you going to say chrome is the fastest browser out there?are you alright are you sane?it hasn't even been out 2 days,i don't understand why people can't get it through there thick skull!!!!!!!!!firefox,eat it ,swallow it ,live with it


chargers #1 and firefox evangelist

I suggest you do some serious research next time before you say something like that. If you haven't already, check their comic about how Chrome is engineered and why it's fast as it is. Then maybe, you will come to realise why it really is the fastest browser out there. "Two days" what the hell are you talking about?!! How many days do you need to realise how fast it renders everything? Three?! Do some research as I said.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: chargers on September 05, 2008, 04:35:04 AM
like drdrayden said everyone is different !!!!!!enjoy!!!!
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 05, 2008, 05:39:52 AM
Like FF for it's extensions but I can't install any right now and I don't like it. Are they so safe after all? Reliable? We rely a lot on NoScript, for example, what if it became corrupt. I've uninstalled Threatfire, I also ran a registry clean up with MVRegClean that is in depht and Advance Window Care and Glary and it just won't install, any of them. I read a thread on the Threatfire forum on PCTools about it but so far the software is gone. Weird. Just to say I am less secure than I was with FF 3.0.1 than I was 1 week ago. But do we have a choice (those who care about security) than surfing with the great FOX?     ??? Note:CHROME IS BETA and all my extension problems started after I downloaded it, but I have no proof. :-\
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 05, 2008, 06:22:55 AM
Just found this on the Mozilla technical knowledge :
Invalid file hash

If you receive the error, Firefox could not install the file at <URL> because: Invalid file hash (possible download corruption) when clicking an "Install" link, try the following:

    * Reload the page or clear the Firefox cache: "Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Network / Cache -> Clear Now" (Firefox 2) or "Tools -> Options -> Privacy -> Cache -> Clear" (Firefox 1.5), then try again. [8]
    * If installing from addons.mozilla.org (AMO), the problem could be with the addons.mozilla.org database (bug 345505) or a broken mirror site (bug 420278). Try restarting Firefox to see if the extension or theme was installed despite the error [9]. You could also try installing at a later time or from an alternate location such as the author's homepage [10].
    * Manually install the extension (right-click the install link -> "Save Link As"-> save the .jar or .xpi file, then drag the file icon onto an open Firefox window). Note: If a manual install also fails, an antivirus (or other software that monitors downloads) may be corrupting the file. You could try saving the file on another computer, then copy it over and manually install it on the problem computer. [11]

Note: This error can also occur when installing an "experimental" extension from AMO. See this bug report for details.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 05, 2008, 06:31:59 AM
Tried to install webmail for example from the Author's web page. Same problem.
In some threads in their forum they say it may be linked to AVAST or Comodo 3 FW or ZA or CA. Well since I already have my share of extensions installed I will stay like that but I'm confused, disturbed! :)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: alanrf on September 05, 2008, 07:58:00 AM
While I am and remain a Firefox user and supporter please remember that the Firefox folks are managing with those willing to work for nothing.  Google meanwhile is the large organization not a couple of miles away with money to burn on developers of a new web browser.  You may be a better man than I but where I in the vicinity and given the choice of developing Firefox for free or Chrome for pay ... I think I know what my choice would be.

I have to suspect that Chrome will be a significant player and may well eclipse Firefox.   
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: bob3160 on September 05, 2008, 04:44:04 PM
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Note:CHROME IS BETA and all my extension problems started after I downloaded it, but I have no proof.
All of my extensions still work fine when I use Firefox.
Right now Chrome is set as the default browser in order to put it through it's paces and check for any problems.
I have noticed that there are some problems copying items into my blogs when using Chrome.
I was able to use the copy and paste method in my Google blog but not any of the others..... :'(
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 05, 2008, 05:31:02 PM
Hi Folks!
Sorry for the fuss about installation problems and invalid hash with installation extension in FF. Even Mozillazone don't know why but seems that the solution is creating a new profile folder and deleting the old one. It solved my problems. Go figure why!!! The profile folder goes corrupt. Here is the link (in french):http://www.geckozone.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13343 (http://www.geckozone.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13343)
All Right, got it, Damian, Tech: it's Firekeeper alpha that was giving me trouble, I reinstalled it and the problem reappeared, uninstalled it and it disappeared. I'll have to do without it.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 05, 2008, 09:21:42 PM
Firekeeper extension. If you got the problem, simple way is to remove this extension. You can also try to allow or put in the white-list the add-on mozilla site, I did not try this one (hmm...too complicated for me...!) :)
Second thought:simply remove it.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: polonus on September 05, 2008, 11:41:57 PM
Hi gdiloren,

No problems with Firekeeper on my Fx here, and GChrome for testing, but not as the default.
For copying all my Fx profiles I have Febe http://customsoftwareconsult.com/extensions/febe/febe.html
Febe compatible with Fx 3.0 and I have it enforced with Nightly Tester Tools on my:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1b1pre) Gecko/20080905031348 Minefield/3.1b1pre ID:20080905031348

What I saw in Task Manager is that with GChrome I have got another version of GoogleUpdate.exe = GoogleInstaller and that is costing you CPU.
I will try out some -drag-resizer.js if it will work inside Chrome, so maybe you can do some Safari-like tweaking,

polonus

Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: gdiloren on September 06, 2008, 01:46:28 AM
Hi gdiloren,

No problems with Firekeeper on my Fx here, and GChrome for testing, but not as the default.
For copying all my Fx profiles I have Febe http://customsoftwareconsult.com/extensions/febe/febe.html
Febe compatible with Fx 3.0 and I have it enforced with Nightly Tester Tools on my:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1b1pre) Gecko/20080905031348 Minefield/3.1b1pre ID:20080905031348

What I saw in Task Manager is that with GChrome I have got another version of GoogleUpdate.exe = GoogleInstaller and that is costing you CPU.
I will try out some -drag-resizer.js if it will work inside Chrome, so maybe you can do some Safari-like tweaking,

polonus


Polonus,
      It's weird, the Firekeeper extension was working fine until recently. Now it was even interfering with Comodo's server and BoClean. Had to uninstall it. Will wait for a more stable version. Threatfire was removed 3 days ago but it wasn't the culprit.
Thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: bunk on September 06, 2008, 02:18:38 AM
I'd bet you guys just drive your PCs crazy tryin all this stuff  ::)

I have one just for testing, and I dont just try everything new on it.......... :D
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Sesame on September 06, 2008, 08:01:05 PM
Acronis True Image 11 Home has Try&Decide.  However, if you don't have it, you can try Returnil Virtual System 2008 Personal Edition, which can dismiss all the change done to your System Partition while it is turned on.  http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com/index_files/rvspersonal.htm

As for Chrome, you can get new builds here.
http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/
However, do you really think it worths your time?
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: DavidR on September 06, 2008, 08:09:02 PM
Certainly not worth my time to be a beta tester for a product that I would say is just barely beta, perhaps alpha+ The day and a bit that it was on my system was enough. I will certainly wait for at least the RC version.
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: bunk on September 06, 2008, 11:15:15 PM
I do have Acronis ( 9 I think it is ) but never had much sucess with it  :( I know it's a top rated back-up program, I just never did get it to work right...... OE I suppose......... OE= Operator Error  :P
Title: Re: Google to launch browser to battle IE
Post by: Sesame on September 07, 2008, 01:41:19 PM
Certainly not worth my time to be a beta tester for a product that I would say is just barely beta, perhaps alpha+ The day and a bit that it was on my system was enough. I will certainly wait for at least the RC version.
Also, it is so information-hungry that it cannot even wait for the users to finish typing.

lifehacker did a speed test among IE8 beta 2, Firefox 3.1 and Chrome.
http://lifehacker.com/5044668/beta-browser-speed-tests-which-is-fastest
I don't think Chrome is extremely faster than the other two except its start-up.

Chrome may be good for Google but how much benefit is left for its users?

I do have Acronis ( 9 I think it is ) but never had much sucess with it  :( I know it's a top rated back-up program, I just never did get it to work right...... OE I suppose......... OE= Operator Error  :P
Acronis True Image is a good backup utility app but, here, I meant its Try& Decide function, which negates all changes during the session and is only available only with 11.  Here is the trial version of Acronis True Image 11.  http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/download/trueimage/

If it works by any chace, you can choose to buy Acronis True Image 11 Home Upgrade.  Alternatively, you can use free Returnil Virtual System 2008 Personal Edition, which works similarly to Try&Decide.