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Title: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 05, 2008, 05:51:14 PM
I'm just curious, when I use to use AVG it had updates every day but AVAST doesn't.
Is there a reason why????
Title: Re: Why
Post by: Reductase on October 05, 2008, 06:06:56 PM
Pretty darn close to daily... maybe your settings?  Firewall (as mentioned by Tech in a previous thread):

Into the firewall settings, the following programs should be allowed to connect:

C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe (avast! Web Scanner)
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe (avast! e-Mail Scanner Service)
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\Setup\avast.setup (avast! Update executable). This is a temporary file that just appears when an update (check) is about to launch, and disappears again afterwards.

Don't need rights to connect:
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe (avast! Update Service)
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe (avast! antivirus service). Although, ashServ.exe sends ping packets to find out if the Internet connection is alive. You can turn this off by checking the "My computer is permanently connected to the Internet" box in the avast Program Settings > Update (Connections) page.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: Bluesman on October 05, 2008, 06:32:07 PM
Yes, almost daily as Reductase said. Some days we got more than 1 update.

You can also see updates here:

http://www.avast.com/eng/vps_history.html
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 05, 2008, 07:17:02 PM
I have no problem checking for updates.
My last update was yesterday but I just started using AVAST yesterday
Title: Re: Why
Post by: Bluesman on October 05, 2008, 07:35:43 PM
I have no problem checking for updates.
My last update was yesterday but I just started using AVAST yesterday

Well...on your first post you asked why avast didn't have updates every day, and I showed you that avast almost have it every day, and the last update was yesterday, so do you have the update 4.10.2008 - 81004-0, then everything is just fine, that was the latest update.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 05, 2008, 07:48:28 PM
Thanks for your help!!!!
Its greatly appreciated!!!!!! :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Why
Post by: DavidR on October 05, 2008, 07:53:36 PM
Whilst there is no specific schedule it is commonly every day and sometimes more than once a day and unlike the free version of AVG you aren't limited to one update per day. I have in the past during periods of high virus activity had as many as 4-5 updates in a day.

avast checks for updates every time you connect to the internet and again after 4 hours if you remain on-line. Since I'm a dial-up user it checks for updates each time I connect.

One of the major reasons I jumped the AVG ship over four and a half years ago was the poor state of the update process.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: PapaSmurf on October 05, 2008, 07:57:12 PM
Right clik on avast! icon in sys tray, select program settings, clik on update(Basic)
and make sure your auto update is checked.
Then, if you have a firewall, go into its' allowed program settings and make sure that avast! is
allowed to connect. The program usually checks for updates as soon as your desktop boots up,
but I have noticed that if I decide to open my browser right away, it will check for updates in the background,
you should notice the icon spinning, which is a clue that the program is active and either checking your system, or checking for updates. I know that mine checks daily.
Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 05, 2008, 08:53:06 PM
When you have it set for auto update does it bog down your computer when its updating????
I had to shut down the auto update when I used AVG because it did this.
Title: "AVG Remover"
Post by: Spiritsongs on October 05, 2008, 09:26:17 PM
 :)  Hi :

 Would be best to better define "bog" !?

 And on this Forum we are concerned IF the previous AV has been
 COMPLETELY REMOVED because IF has NOT been, that can effect the
 performance of Avast . In the case of AVG, it would be wise to seriously
 consider using the "AVG Remover" at www.avg.com/download-tools .
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 05, 2008, 09:34:23 PM
I did remove AVG with the remover. When I say BOG I mean the computer is going really slow.
When your surfing it there is a delay and if you have a screen saver on it starts and stops.
If you bring up the task manger you could see that AVG has a high CPU usage.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: DavidR on October 05, 2008, 09:52:29 PM
When you have it set for auto update does it bog down your computer when its updating????
I had to shut down the auto update when I used AVG because it did this.

On the contrary, with the virus signature updates set to Auto there is a little trick that restricts the CPU % so as not to bog down other processes. If you set this to Ask or to Manual then this restriction isn't applied as it is deemed you wouldn't be starting an update if you were busy so no need to throttle the CPU usage.

The avast updates also differ in that they are incremental, and only the changes between the VPS version you have to the VPS version available are downloaded. So the avast VPS updates are measured in KBs rather than MBs and this makes a big difference.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 05, 2008, 10:07:23 PM
Thanks for the info!!!!!
I have it set on ASK but I have never seen it work yet.
Also, what time should it be set on to check for updates????
Currently auto update is set to check every 240 minutes.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: Lisandro on October 05, 2008, 10:27:36 PM
I have it set on ASK but I have never seen it work yet.
Do you really think the automatic brings you trouble? The updates aren't that huge...

Also, what time should it be set on to check for updates????
Currently auto update is set to check every 240 minutes.
120 minutes is the minor value allowed for home version.
If you want less updates, set a higher value.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 05, 2008, 10:33:53 PM
Thanks again for your help!!!!   :) :) :)
Title: Re: Why
Post by: Lisandro on October 05, 2008, 10:52:56 PM
Thanks again for your help!!!!   :) :) :)
You're welcome. Feel free to come back any time you need help or just to change experiences 8)
Title: Re: Why
Post by: DavidR on October 06, 2008, 12:30:41 AM
Thanks for the info!!!!!
I have it set on ASK but I have never seen it work yet.
Also, what time should it be set on to check for updates????
Currently auto update is set to check every 240 minutes.

You're welcome.

Ask, checks for updates and if there is one it will pop-up a notification in the bottom right of your screen that an update is available. It really is better set to Auto, Ask as I have said doesn't restrict CPU usage so is more likely to slow other processes for a short time.

The Program updates are a different matter and they are set to Ask but default as they are likely to be much larger.

It really is best left at the default settings (like for most things as it provides the best balance between performance and protection), so based on the frequency of VPS updates commonly daily and occasionally more than one in the day, increasing the frequency of checking doesn't really provide a better level of protection.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 06, 2008, 08:29:05 AM
Sorry, but I have one other question. I had it setup to ask me when an update is available but I didn't tell my brother. He saw the message popup but didn't click on it because I forgot to tell him. Will it remind you again???? When I got home from work I checked for updates to get the one I missed.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: DavidR on October 06, 2008, 03:07:20 PM
No it won't remind you until the next time it checks for an update, which is another good reason to leave it on the default Auto update setting.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: Lisandro on October 06, 2008, 05:29:38 PM
When I got home from work I checked for updates to get the one I missed.
The updates are incremental, if you miss one, when updating you'll receive everything it's needed to use the latest version. In other words, no problem if you miss one update, next will correct everything and bring your installation up-to-date.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 06, 2008, 07:25:05 PM
Thanks again everyone for your help!!!!
Its greatly appreciated!!!!
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 06, 2008, 10:49:04 PM
Sorry!!!! I have another question.
When I right click on the AVAST symbol in the toolbar and look under updates it shows iAVS UPDATE and
PROGRAM UPDATE. If I manually have to update for some reason do I have to click on both????
Title: Re: Why
Post by: ProgrammerGuy on October 06, 2008, 11:10:40 PM
If you're going after an update that you might have missed you needn't click on both; just the 'iAVS' will do...

For the record, I'm also on dial-up and I set mine to check every 120 minutes...  There is no slowdown of my system when updates are available or being installed...  This is heaven compared to that other product, I shan't mention AVG, that I used to use... 8)
Title: Re: Why
Post by: DavidR on October 06, 2008, 11:16:52 PM
No you don't a) leave the avast Update (Basic) settings as they are, the default setting is to auto update the virus signatures VPS (a.k.a iAVS) so there should be no need to use the manual process though it is there if you happen to have changed the default settings.

I would leave the default delay set to 240 minutes there really is no advantage in reducing that, as commonly there is only one update per day, however, that could be greater.

On dial-up you are wasting your time changing the default setting as it checks 'every' time you reconnect and would never reach a 120 minute delay unless you stayed on-line for longer than that period. Since avast doesn't connect but checks for the presence of a connection you could be off-line four hours and avast doesn't connect to check, so the delay doesn't start until you connect.

Program updates are a) less frequent b) much larger, so the default setting is to Ask, avast checks for updates and if a program update is available it will pop-up a notification. If you click that notification window it will download and install the update, otherwise you can let the window close normally after about 10 seconds and do a manual Program update later. When doing a program update the virus signatures will also be updates so there is no need to do that also.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: grog4444 on October 06, 2008, 11:31:40 PM
Thanks for your reply!!!!!!!
Hopefully I will have no more questions.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: DavidR on October 06, 2008, 11:48:57 PM
You're welcome, questions aren't unwelcome, not asking a question is stupid if it is bothering you.
Title: Re: Why
Post by: CharleyO on October 07, 2008, 10:04:56 AM
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On this forum, the only stupid questions are the questions not asked.   ;)


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Title: Re: Why
Post by: PapaSmurf on October 08, 2008, 04:51:26 AM
I must apologize, I keep forgetting that I am on broadband.
The updates are very small if done daily, and you may notice a little slow down as avast updates its' data.
Please remember, that it is still protecting your system even while it is updating itself, so a little minor slowdown for a few seconds is understandable.

If however, you do not wish to do so daily, I would at least check 3 times a week, beginning, middle, and end.
The updates may be a little bigger, but not much. The longer you put off checking for updates, the bigger the update may be. Also, it is just safer to keep up with them. :)