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Title: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 18, 2008, 01:08:38 PM
Hi there,

Do you smart people use the msconfig utility for a selective startup?

I have 4 gigs of physical ram & my page file is set at 4986 MB min & max.

Hoping to hear your thoughts,

Thanks.

Yezinki.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Sesame on December 18, 2008, 01:41:04 PM
Smart or not, I use the utility in a limited way...it's a good utility to check out the start-up configuration.  However, some other utilities has a similar function.  For example, CCleaner (http://www.ccleaner.com/) allows you to control on startup, to some extent.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Lisandro on December 18, 2008, 01:53:45 PM
No. I use StartupDelayer to control the order of loading programs at startup that does not follow a strict order in Windows.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 18, 2008, 05:51:33 PM
Delayed start.......using Windows Services?
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Lisandro on December 18, 2008, 07:42:56 PM
Delayed start.......using Windows Services?
No.
Try Startup Delayer (http://www.r2.com.au/software.php?page=2&show=startdelay).
This freeware controls the windows startup (Windows 98\Me\2k\XP\Vista) that does not follow a strict order.

You can set some applications to start very after the boot (logon) itself.  ;)
They will manage the execution of programs that are automatically started by the operating system at logon time. Instead of executing many programs at once (causing your OS to spit and sputter and attack your hard drive), StartRight will give the OS time to execute the program before running the next program. The OS should become much more responsive almost imediately after logon.

Since avast! version 4.7.807 the Standard Shield has a feature called do not scan system libraries (by default on) that dramatically decrease the number of files scanned during computer boot.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: YoKenny on December 18, 2008, 08:01:01 PM
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Notes for a Happier Computer and User
o Do not use "msconfig" to disable services, type "services.msc" in the Run box instead!
o disabling any service, check out the service information about each by selecting the service name links provided. 

http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on December 18, 2008, 08:36:39 PM
I use Winpatrol for controlling start up programs and also for delayed start. One of my all time favorite proggies.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: bob3160 on December 18, 2008, 10:04:38 PM
I use Winpatrol for controlling start up programs and also for delayed start. One of my all time favorite proggies.
Even the free version allows those functions. This is one of those programs that deserved my support and investment. :)
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 04:09:11 AM
Delayed start.......using Windows Services?
No.
Try Startup Delayer (http://www.r2.com.au/software.php?page=2&show=startdelay).
This freeware controls the windows startup (Windows 98\Me\2k\XP\Vista) that does not follow a strict order.

You can set some applications to start very after the boot (logon) itself.  ;)
They will manage the execution of programs that are automatically started by the operating system at logon time. Instead of executing many programs at once (causing your OS to spit and sputter and attack your hard drive), StartRight will give the OS time to execute the program before running the next program. The OS should become much more responsive almost imediately after logon.

Since avast! version 4.7.807 the Standard Shield has a feature called do not scan system libraries (by default on) that dramatically decrease the number of files scanned during computer boot.

Thanks Tech & darth_mikey,

Tech using Startup Delayer while editing a application, what changes do you make, like ......Launch type.....Normal to minimized?

What about Delay & other parameters like Label, Target, Parameters, Delay, Start In, Pause Startup Delayer until application is closed ?

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/eDOC/14-1-1.jpg)

To me none is important on this Sony machine.....so how do I configure em.......uncheck them all.........or how do I make use of the Edit options?

Winpatrol is more confusing.

Thanks.


Tech
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 04:14:10 AM
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/eDOC/15-1.jpg)
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 04:49:05 AM
darth_mikey using winpatrol how long should be the delay for appls not required at startup......30, 40, 50 secs?

Or should I give a different timings to each, for a delayed start?

Avast should be at normal?

Thanks.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: CharleyO on December 19, 2008, 05:29:41 AM
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Hi Yezinki -

I will add my favorite to this by saying I use the Startup tab in this program ... What's Running. Unchecking the box next to an entry prevents startup of a program but, as with any such program, please be careful what you uncheck.

You can read about it at the link below ......

http://www.whatsrunning.net/whatsrunning/main.aspx


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Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 05:33:00 AM
Hi CharleyO,

If it's just to uncheck, than why not use msconfig & uncheck there?

Why use this programs/appls?

Thanks.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: CharleyO on December 19, 2008, 05:56:02 AM
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Well, for me, it is easier to use and shows more information.

Start > Run > type in (or select from list) msconfig > click OK > click Startup tab

against ...

Double click destop icon > click Startup tab


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Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 05:57:23 AM
True I agree thanks CharleyO!
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: CharleyO on December 19, 2008, 06:00:17 AM
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You are welcome.   :)


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Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Lisandro on December 19, 2008, 01:16:13 PM
You can delay superantispyware, nerofilter and sunjava for sure...

ARE YOU USING AVIRA ANTIVIRUS? ???
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 02:36:41 PM
You can delay superantispyware, nerofilter and sunjava for sure...

ARE YOU USING AVIRA ANTIVIRUS? ???

Avira is for trail on this test machine but have Avast on note book & installing Avast back after testing Avira.

Delay the ones you mentioned for how long & using which appl?

Thanks.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Go Pack Go on December 19, 2008, 03:39:48 PM
You can delay the startup of services in Vista to be delayed.  Does WinPatrol offer more options or something?  Why is it better than setting the delay with Vista?
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: alanrf on December 19, 2008, 04:09:38 PM
WinPatrol cannot control the startup of services - it can be used to delay the applications that are set to run at startup.

I do not believe that Vista provides that function.

 
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on December 19, 2008, 05:16:23 PM
(http://www.shrani.si/f/N/Ag/41USOi6B/services.jpg)
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Lisandro on December 19, 2008, 06:38:19 PM
Delay the ones you mentioned for how long & using which appl?
Trial and error...
Start the ones more necessary first, then the others, delay some minutes for the non essential ones.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 06:49:59 PM
My conclusion is that Avast Home & SpyBlaster are a must.

Rest like MBAM, WinPatrol if present definitely provide extra protection/detection.

On this test machine, I install/uninstall never worry what shall clash or get corrupted but still is clean & working error Free.

No registry or image back ups......uninstalled appls like Avast their services still present & so on..........

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/eDOC/17-1.jpg) Delayed startup

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/eDOC/16-1-1-1.jpg) Uninstalled appl Services

MBAM log:

Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 1.31
Database version: 1512
Windows 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3

12/19/2008 10:39:24 PM
mbam-log-2008-12-19 (22-39-24).txt

Scan type: Full Scan (C:\|G:\|)
Objects scanned: 98290
Time elapsed: 17 minute(s), 34 second(s)

Memory Processes Infected: 0
Memory Modules Infected: 0
Registry Keys Infected: 0
Registry Values Infected: 0
Registry Data Items Infected: 0
Folders Infected: 0
Files Infected: 0

Memory Processes Infected:
(No malicious items detected)

Memory Modules Infected:
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Keys Infected:
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Values Infected:
(No malicious items detected)

Registry Data Items Infected:
(No malicious items detected)

Folders Infected:
(No malicious items detected)

Files Infected:
(No malicious items detected)

Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 06:54:12 PM
Just using Spyblaster immunizations/restriction, blocked sites & blocked Active X etc........nothing else.

No Cookiesafe, Adblock, NoScript FF addons.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 06:57:38 PM
Thanks to Alan Baxter.

"Not easily, but it's not necessary.  Just use Spyware Blaster.  That's what I do.  It's not a real-time scanner and doesn't conflict with any other software.  Not only does it update the IE cookies block list, it also populates IE's list of restricted sites and blocks ActiveX from known bad sites,  I highly recommend it.  Spyware Blaster also adds its own cookie block list to Firefox.  It's list has about 230 sites in it, most of which overlap with the CS Lite block list.  Go ahead and let Spyware Blaster "Enable All Protection".  It coexists with CS Lite perfectly well."
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 06:59:15 PM
Conclusion:

Avast 4.8 + SpyBlaster..........
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 07:02:09 PM
Using this combo I have visited most restricted sites either they don't open or if they do my machine remains clean...........what else can be a test??
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: DavidR on December 19, 2008, 07:29:55 PM
Well you can add another passive device to your overall protection and that is OpenDNS.com this you set your connections to use this DNS server, it has a blacklist of sites which can help and since they aren't on your system, you don't have to maintain the list ;D

The firefox add-on WOT is another that is very light on resources and isn't on your system for you to maintain.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 07:47:17 PM
Thanks again DavidR .....you have been of great assistance/info.

For a test ask me to visit the worst URL.......to check how good/bad, my protection measures are lol.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: DavidR on December 19, 2008, 07:52:20 PM
I don't collect malware site URLs ;D

Nor would I suggest visiting live malware sites just to test your defences, even when using a drive imaging software as you would still have a lag between your last image and if you did get infected. Not to mention you may not even know you are infected and could potentially be infecting others.

But from previous posts in these forums, google sponsored links seem to be a breeding ground.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Lisandro on December 19, 2008, 07:54:24 PM
For a test ask me to visit the worst URL
You can test the security of your email system here: http://www.gfi.com/emailsecuritytest/

To see the Standard Shield and other protection:
1) Is the 'a' blue icon swirling?
2) Right click the icon once and see what are the 'last scanned files'...
3) Use eicar virus test.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 07:55:21 PM
Spyblaster doesn't open some of those links.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Lisandro on December 19, 2008, 07:57:19 PM
Spyblaster doesn't open some of those links.
Do you mean they're blocked into Firefox or IE?
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: YoKenny on December 19, 2008, 08:20:11 PM
Thanks again DavidR .....you have been of great assistance/info.

For a test ask me to visit the worst URL.......to check how good/bad, my protection measures are lol.

This is a good place to go but be very careful as they announce some real nasties:
http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?showforum=30 <== you have to become a member to see this.
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 08:20:36 PM
All viruses trapped.

All Trojans etc sent to quarantine.

Got 24 test emails........Viruses caught on scan before opening attachments.

For Trojans, Avira asked for action.........

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/eDOC/50-1.jpg)
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 08:23:35 PM
What do you think Tech....think didn't do bad lol!
Title: Re: MSCONFIG
Post by: Yezinki on December 19, 2008, 08:26:56 PM
Thanks again DavidR .....you have been of great assistance/info.

For a test ask me to visit the worst URL.......to check how good/bad, my protection measures are lol.

This is a good place to go but be very careful as they announce some real nasties:
http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?showforum=30 <== you have to become a member to see this.

YoKenny.......too tired got a stiff back have to get my note book ready for work.......I'll visit this site tomorrow.

First gotto become its member.

Thanks any how.

Tech suggested site bombed me with 24 emails in one go.........I felt nukes flyin all over lol