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Title: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: zone12 on December 20, 2008, 04:53:04 AM
Does anone know whats going on I just got this comp and its hard disk light is always on.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: CharleyO on December 20, 2008, 09:36:18 AM
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Well, you have not really given us much information to go on. Maybe some computer specs, software you've loaded onto it, etc.


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Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: Lisandro on December 20, 2008, 02:12:48 PM
Which is the computer? Notebook?
Does this occur only after login or at any time?
Does the light on and off or keep always on?
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: DavidR on December 20, 2008, 04:48:53 PM
A common suspect in this is the windows indexing service updating its database to help speed up file searches, etc. Personally I think this is a huge waste of time as most people don't do enough searches (or have low performance systems) to make this overhead worthwhile.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: Lisandro on December 20, 2008, 05:07:28 PM
A common suspect in this is the windows indexing service updating its database to help speed up file searches, etc. Personally I think this is a huge waste of time as most people don't do enough searches (or have low performance systems) to make this overhead worthwhile.
Yeah... sometimes I feel it slow down the shutdown of the computer also, am I wrong?
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: DavidR on December 20, 2008, 05:24:11 PM
Well it is possible, it would depend if just before you shut you were working on lots of files. I have had it disabled on my systems for years and occasionally I get a shutdown that takes a little longer, so that can't be down to the indexing service.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: Lisandro on December 20, 2008, 05:33:10 PM
I'll have to change my notebook, maybe I never discover what made this HP have a slow shutdown.
Of course, I do not want my new Dell come with this problem...
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: DavidR on December 20, 2008, 05:48:18 PM
So that can't be down to the indexing service.
I'll have to change my notebook, maybe I never discover what made this HP have a slow shutdown.
Of course, I do not want my new Dell come with this problem...

Well your quote on what I said is rather restricted because I have the indexing service disabled, so in my circumstance any slow shutdown couldn't be attributed to the indexing service. If you still have it enabled it could have an impact.

If this happens all the time try disabling the indexing service and see if it makes any difference.

I don't know what OS is on your system but XP used to have a common problem with slow shutdowns and I had to run the user hive profile closure tool UHPClean I think and that did help, but it doesn't seem to work with XP SP3.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: Lisandro on December 20, 2008, 06:40:14 PM
User Profile Hive Cleanup Service seems to be only for XP and not Vista :'(
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: zone12 on December 24, 2008, 07:41:54 PM
im on vista 64 bit
6gb of ram
Amd phenom cores
750 hard drive

its a pc with a reg tower
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: DavidR on December 24, 2008, 08:20:51 PM
I don't know much about Vista and less about the 64bit version, but I suspect that it too would have this indexing service, so you would have to see if it exists in the Vista64 Services or its equivalent. normally I would get that via the Administrative Tools (in XP Pro) or by typing services.msc in the Start, Run window.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on December 24, 2008, 11:02:35 PM
Indexing enabled here and a it's a huge huge database i have(yes i use the search tool ALOT), but i don't see any slowdowns at shut down(besides the search indexer stops as soon as there is any user activity detected). However the hdd is working continuosly at boot up for a few minutes but i don't believe it's the indexing service causing this since all files are already indexed(i usually rebuild the index manually after i've added any big amount of new files not to mention it runs in the background when the computer is not used and since i don't restart that often this should be taken care of). 

What could be causing this hdd activity ?

Well it could be any one of the following things or all of them together ...

Search Indexer
SuperFetch(for me it's this one that is usually causing the hdd activity but it get's better over time, same goes for indexing service)
Automatic Restore points/Shadow Copies creation
ReadyBoost

Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: DavidR on December 25, 2008, 12:34:27 AM
Thanks for the input darth_mikey, hopefully it will give zone12 some other things to check out.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: zone12 on December 25, 2008, 12:44:41 AM
i disabled the indexing and it doesnt seem to do alot its faster by a little but it seems to be slow for the frist few hours if you use it. I reallly dont know whats happening i disaled alot of the start up things too
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: DavidR on December 25, 2008, 12:52:54 AM
I wish I could help more but this will need the attention of someone with mush more Vista experience that I have.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: Hard_ROCKER on December 25, 2008, 02:06:34 AM
I see you mention it does this for hours, this is very strange as the initial disk activity at boot shouldn't last longer than 5 minutes, usually it's less than that.
Have you tried disabling the other things i mentioned like SuperFetch ? I don't really believe that is the problem here but it's better we try it just to make sure. I suspect some third party program is creating an issue here but i am just guessing.

Can you tell us which programs you have running in the background(like virus scanners, firewalls, anti-spyware etc.) ?

Also can you go to Task Manager - Performance - Resource Monitor and click the Disk tab. See which process is creating the most disk activity, this should help us narrow it down ...

(http://www.shrani.si/t/1z/bL/2aRWBlbM/resource-monitor.jpg) (http://www.shrani.si/?1z/bL/2aRWBlbM/resource-monitor.jpg)


Cheers !

Mikey
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: Lisandro on December 25, 2008, 04:02:41 PM
Does Vista performance logs inform anything about it?
http://www.devx.com/dotnet/Article/35157
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: bob3160 on December 25, 2008, 09:48:35 PM
i disabled the indexing and it doesnt seem to do alot its faster by a little but it seems to be slow for the frist few hours if you use it. I reallly dont know whats happening i disaled alot of the start up things too
Is this a legitimate copy of Vista ??? I'm asking because I know that some of the software out there
to bypass Microsoft's prying eyes unfortunately adds it's own prying eyes.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: zone12 on December 26, 2008, 06:07:31 PM
it seems to stop if i leave my computer on for a very long tme but then again what could be causing it?
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: Lisandro on December 26, 2008, 06:40:58 PM
it seems to stop if i leave my computer on for a very long tme but then again what could be causing it?
It's not easy to troubleshoot, each computer has a set of programs, services running in background, etc. Maybe you should call a technician that could check your computer in loco.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: bob3160 on December 26, 2008, 08:02:26 PM
You still haven't answered my question.
If it's legal, then maybe you should follow Tech's advice and take it in for service.
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: zone12 on December 27, 2008, 05:51:34 PM
The hard disk light turns off after a few minutes of running but when i do even the slightist thing it tends to prolong it what could it be?
Title: Re: computer hard disk light stays on performence slows down HELP!
Post by: Lisandro on December 27, 2008, 09:31:39 PM
The hard disk light turns off after a few minutes of running but when i do even the slightist thing it tends to prolong it what could it be?
A hardware problem...
An operational system failure...
Who knows...