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Title: for avast team
Post by: EliyahuT on December 30, 2008, 04:25:38 PM
hello

why avast dosent have firewall?

today all anti virus have together firewall like:

1)AVIRA
2)AVG
3)BITDEFENDER
4)ESET
5)KASPERSKY
6)MCAFEE
7)NORTON
8)ZONEALARM
9)PC TOOLS

and alot more...

so if avast have 70 million people so why there no firewall?

you should to do a home edition stay like that and proffesional editon will get SCRIPT BLOCKING + FIREWALL....

and you should to do when scan finised on standard scan there be result...
beacuse when i do standard scan i not in computer beacuse i go school or watch tv but avast found virus and stuck at 40% and i need press delete for scan go on....

thank you for read!
bye ;D
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: RejZoR on December 30, 2008, 04:35:09 PM
It is planned for avast! 5 sometime in 2009 as Internet Security package.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: lukor on December 30, 2008, 04:41:53 PM
You might be surprised how terribly bad can software be and yet be named as firewall.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: DavidR on December 30, 2008, 04:58:25 PM
why avast dosent have firewall?

today all anti virus have together firewall like:
<snip>

Because it isn't a Suite, it is an anti-virus. You can get all of those mentioned as an anti-virus only if you wish and not as an Internet Security Suite. There are also many on your list that I wouldn't give HDD space to just because they have a firewall, because the rest is of suite has to be of a standard worth installing.

As RejZoR said avast has a firewall in development and when ready there will be an all in one option, but the AV will also be available as a stand alone application.

I don't like suites because the selection of which products in the suite is one made by the manufactures. I prefer to select what individual application is best for my needs in each category and not what someone else feels suits their needs.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Lisandro on December 30, 2008, 11:23:10 PM
You might be surprised how terribly bad can software be and yet be named as firewall.
You're talking about AVG firewall, aren't you? ;)
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Lisandro on December 30, 2008, 11:24:57 PM
1)AVIRA
2)AVG
3)BITDEFENDER
Not good firewall.

4)ESET
5)KASPERSKY
Don't know.

6)MCAFEE
7)NORTON
Need to say something about these monsters ;) ;D

8)ZONEALARM
9)PC TOOLS
Very poor antivirus.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: ky331 on December 31, 2008, 12:29:57 AM
I take the opposite approach:   I am NOT a fan of SUITES.   

Typically, a suite can be categorized by the cliché "jack of all trades, master of none" (well, more likely, master of ONE).   It is rare, if not impossible, to find a suite that's superb in all its component applications.

I would much rather have the ability to install separate components (AV, AS, firewall) so that i can pick-and-choose the combination of products that i feel works best for me:  for example, at present, i am running the following [under windows XP sp3]:
avast! anti-virus (which includes anti-spyware)
resident anti-malware:   windows defender (may not be the best, but there are very few quality choices among free products), together with spybot's teaTimer.
on-demand anti-malware scanners:   MalwareBytes anti-Malware, SUPERAntiSpyware
comodo pro 2.4 (yes, i still use 2.4) firewall.
passive protection:  spywareBlaster, together with spybot's immunization
host-file protection:  via SpyBot
pseudo protection:  WinPatrol

All of the above are compatible, and put little demand on my system resources.

also, separate components give me the option/flexibility of changing any one component, without having to consider how changing a "suite" might impact EVERYTHING in it.   (for example, i could always upgrade to comodo firewall 3, or switch entirely to online armor)

in conclusion, i was RELIEVED to read above that "avast has a firewall in development and when ready there will be an all in one option, but the AV will also be available as a stand alone application. "   

I would hate to see avast "decline" --- as so many other formerly good products have sunk to --- by trying to take on the role of a suite... bloating in size... but no longer offering the best of all worlds.

P.S.   I realize that other people may have their own opinions/choices of alternative programs that they use, combined, in place of a suite.   As prefaced, I chose a combination which seems optimal for me.   My point is not to get into a debate about other programs that someone else might consider preferable/better... which is certainly each persons prerogative... just trying to show how things can be combined --- and just as easily replaced --- rather than resorting to the bulk of a "do-it-all" suite.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: normishmael on December 31, 2008, 07:45:03 PM
Well said,and well thought out security regime ky331. (imo)
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Tarq57 on December 31, 2008, 11:17:20 PM
Totally agree with all responses.
Avast fits smoothly with my other applications, and is one of the AV's that "plays" well with almost everything.
The way things seem to go is that often, when a vendor turns their single purpose application into a suite, problems occur.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: CharleyO on December 31, 2008, 11:32:01 PM
***

Totally agree with all responses.
Avast fits smoothly with my other applications, and is one of the AV's that "plays" well with almost everything.
The way things seem to go is that often, when a vendor turns their single purpose application into a suite, problems occur.

Yep ... that is generally how it goes.


***
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: al968 on January 01, 2009, 09:03:10 AM
***

Totally agree with all responses.
Avast fits smoothly with my other applications, and is one of the AV's that "plays" well with almost everything.
The way things seem to go is that often, when a vendor turns their single purpose application into a suite, problems occur.

Yep ... that is generally how it goes.


***

Well, maybe one day a vendor will overcome that challenge  :)
It doesn't have to be this way, it just happens to be...

Al968
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Arup on January 01, 2009, 12:44:26 PM
If you are behind a router, you don't need the additional filtering of an inbound firewall, what you need is a good outbound firewall along with HIPS, thats all that matters.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Lisandro on January 01, 2009, 01:05:41 PM
If you are behind a router, you don't need the additional filtering of an inbound firewall, what you need is a good outbound firewall along with HIPS, thats all that matters.
Is there any 'outbound' firewall without 'inbound' protection? I don't think so... the core of a firewall is the inbound protection.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: .: L' arc :. on February 17, 2009, 02:36:32 PM
-= For me, I don't give too much attention to firewalls since avast displays pop up windows when an intruder tries to barge in.. Just like how a firewall works.. [I feel like I'm not making any sense.. haha..]
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: gate1975mlm on February 17, 2009, 02:49:53 PM
I do not need or want an extra firewall. I prey to god the Avast firewall will not be combined with Avast Antivirus. They need to be separate downloads!!!

I use a router and windows Vista/7 built in software firewall. Thats really all anyone needs.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: DavidR on February 17, 2009, 02:59:46 PM
@ chronoboi001
Well avast isn't a firewall and is only checking a very limited subset of ports, those commonly used for exploits, DCOM, etc... So a firewall is an essential part of your system security.

@ gate1975mlm
You may be disappointed as it looks like the avast firewall will initially only be available as part of a suite. But the avast anti-virus should still be available as a stand alone download, for those of us that like to choose individual security products.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: gate1975mlm on February 17, 2009, 03:30:13 PM
@ chronoboi001
Well avast isn't a firewall and is only checking a very limited subset of ports, those commonly used for exploits, DCOM, etc... So a firewall is an essential part of your system security.

@ gate1975mlm
You may be disappointed as it looks like the avast firewall will initially only be available as part of a suite. But the avast anti-virus should still be available as a stand alone download, for those of us that like to choose individual security products.

Why would I be disappointed?

As long as I can download Avast AntiVirus 4 or 5 as a stand alone download I will be happy :)


I just do not need a new firewall :)
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: .: L' arc :. on February 17, 2009, 04:01:01 PM
-= Same here.. I'm satisfied with I have now.. I wont have any need for firewalls [as of now.. haha]..
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Lisandro on February 17, 2009, 04:52:20 PM
-= Same here.. I'm satisfied with I have now.. I wont have any need for firewalls [as of now.. haha]..
Use, at least, the Windows firewall for inbound protection.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Mr.Agent on February 17, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
Yeah good idea you should got like Free version anti virus (maybe stay that like that but its you) + Paid Anti virus (like heuristic and behavior.....) + Avast! 5 Internet Security (with firewall and others)

And maybe to add a green area and neutral and red for the guy that wanna ignore or something.

Its my opinion i have let you know i hope i gived u a good point

Bye
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: .: L' arc :. on February 18, 2009, 11:22:22 AM
-= Avast internet suite..? hmm.. I'm not really fond of suites.. there are some features that I dont really use at all that takes up a lot of system memory..
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Tarq57 on February 18, 2009, 11:31:15 AM
Quote
Yeah good idea you should got like Free version anti virus (maybe stay that like that but its you) + Paid Anti virus (like heuristic and behavior.....) + Avast! 5 Internet Security (with firewall and others)

And maybe to add a green area and neutral and red for the guy that wanna ignore or something.
Don't Grisoft offer something similar, these days?
You want Avast to be like all the others?

Not me! No way!
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: .: L' arc :. on February 18, 2009, 11:35:35 AM
-= Hmm.. Wouldn't it be nice if avast start a new security trend rather than just making up a firewall..?
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Lisandro on February 18, 2009, 01:20:37 PM
a new security trend
What do you mean?
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Mr.Agent on February 18, 2009, 08:53:55 PM
like i say its alwil to do that not me sorry if i have offensed you i just wanted to suggest it ;D
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Giraffe on February 18, 2009, 09:47:01 PM
If v5 does have a firewall I hope that it can be turned off.

I'm currently using Comodo suite with the AV off and Avast! as AV, as I feel that Comodo's AV isn't yet mature (and probably won't be for a year or two), so having the choice would be best.

I like the way that Avast! stops some web sites (although I'm not sure that enermaxusa.com is really one!) and I don't know if Comodo does that.
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: Mr.Agent on February 18, 2009, 10:21:14 PM
yeah i had intruder on my network and suspicious file or web its stoped all and my friend had a trojan yesterday and avast helped him to get up without loosing a thing :D
Title: Re: for avast team
Post by: .: L' arc :. on February 18, 2009, 11:57:57 PM
-= "New security trend" a new way of protecting computers.. Got that idea while watching the anime .hack//..