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Title: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 04, 2009, 02:49:32 PM
Hi,

i am using avast now for a long time, but one thing i didnt find till now.
Is it possbile to define rules with avast?
I mean, tell avast what to do if it finds a virus without popping up a dialog.
I often backup my whole harddisk over night, and the problem is, i dont wanna disable avast, but if i dont - it pop up a dialog a 10% and my backup hangs till next morning when i click on the avast dialog. That's really a problem for me - and i think for many others too.

Thank you very much, s0urce.
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 02:55:19 PM
Hi,

i am using avast now for a long time, but one thing i didnt find till now.
Is it possbile to define rules with avast?
I mean, tell avast what to do if it finds a virus without popping up a dialog.
I often backup my whole harddisk over night, and the problem is, i dont wanna disable avast, but if i dont - it pop up a dialog a 10% and my backup hangs till next morning when i click on the avast dialog. That's really a problem for me - and i think for many others too.

Thank you very much, s0urce.

I believe there is an option to Perform Same Function (or words to that effect) when it encounters a virus. You will have to wait until it does, then tell it to perform a function, (Send to Chest, Delete, Ignore, etc.) then check that option to perform that function without User intervention and let it continue.
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 04, 2009, 02:58:18 PM
Ah, this seems the only way i didnt already tired. :) thank you
But is the setting the rule for all scans now on, or just for one scan, or till i restart the pc?
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 03:01:25 PM
In my experience, it is valid for one scan only unless there is a configuration option I'm not aware of.
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 04, 2009, 03:04:33 PM
hm... ok...
i dont do a scan, i just copy files, and the avast resident scanner popup the messeges, so what is "one scan" in this situation.
but thank you for helping me, mb an admin can explain this a little more detailed
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 03:23:37 PM
As long as you have the Standard Shield active, it should catch any baddies that try to invade your system, and you receive your Avast! Updates regularly. Make certain that Automatic Updates are toggled on. There are times, however, when I've had to stop the Standard Shield to allow certain programs tagged as FP's to run, but toggle it back on when terminated. Within that space of time, I am at risk of picking up bogies from the Internet, so I make it a practice to do a complete scan at least once every week to be certain that the system is clean.

Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: onlysomeone on January 04, 2009, 03:30:06 PM
I'm afaid that this function is not available in the Home-Version of avast!
In the Pro you can set a default action or something like this i think...

yours
onlysomeone
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 03:33:44 PM
That's odd! I have the Home Edition and the option is available.
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: onlysomeone on January 04, 2009, 03:38:50 PM
That's odd! I have the Home Edition and the option is available.


really? can you post a screenshot?
(i use the pro and can do this but i thought the home wouldn't have the recognice-action or automatically do this or that...)
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 03:49:09 PM
I'm scheduled for a scan today. I'll Export a file from the Chest to cause the popup, and take a screen shot, then post it here.
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: onlysomeone on January 04, 2009, 03:50:00 PM
That's odd! I have the Home Edition and the option is available.


really? can you post a screenshot?
(i use the pro and can do this but i thought the home wouldn't have the recognice-action or automatically do this or that...)

Well - now i made a screenshot of avast home finding a virus while working (not in a scan) and there is no option of recognizing what to do...

probably i misunderstood the topic, but what i think that is meant is not available in the home-version... :)
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 03:52:37 PM
(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/9382/snap752ge9.th.png) (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snap752ge9.png)

Okay, I see the discrepancy. I'm getting a different popup message. Trojan Horse instead of Virus. Notice the box labeled "Don't show this dialog next time". If I check that, the scan will continue without popups.

Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: leomin on January 04, 2009, 04:31:02 PM
As far as I know, there is an option in the Home Edition to make the Guard react automatically when it finds a threat, but there is no such options for the scanner.
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: leomin on January 04, 2009, 04:33:26 PM
In the picture above, Yes means "ignore(and deny access)" and No means "quarantine"
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 04, 2009, 05:00:57 PM
@leomin: i found this option, but what it do if i make "yes"? "yes, delete it", "yes, move it" or "yes, ignore it"?

@GrizeBar: i dont have this option, i got the same as "onlysomeone" - wich version do u use?

@all: Any1 else knows a solution how to set rules?

thx
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 05:31:59 PM
>@GrizeBar: i dont have this option, i got the same as "onlysomeone" - wich version do u use?

According to the About Avast! screen, it's Avast! Version 4.8 Home Edition, lastest update was Dec. 27. 2008.
 
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 04, 2009, 05:50:19 PM
i got version 4.8 Home Edition too

Built Dec2008 (4.8.1296)

very strange....

mb there is a difference between finding a virus and finding a trojan
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 06:21:07 PM
I don't know, but the same popup appears whatever the scanner encounters.
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: leomin on January 04, 2009, 06:22:23 PM
@leomin: i found this option, but what it do if i make "yes"? "yes, delete it", "yes, move it" or "yes, ignore it"?

@GrizeBar: i dont have this option, i got the same as "onlysomeone" - wich version do u use?

@all: Any1 else knows a solution how to set rules?

thx

yes--avast! will not touch the file, but then the file will not run and no progress has the access to it until a system restart
no --avast! will delete the file and make it a copy in the quarantine

I believe in the case of copying a number of files, after one of them is blocked by avast! Guard automatically with a "Yes" or a "No", Windows will continue it's copying. But I'm not sure, maybe you can make a test ;D
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 04, 2009, 07:22:35 PM
so if i do "Yes" the file will be ignored by avast, but will it be copied or blocked?
if i do "No" the file will be deleted and moved, but will it be copied? ;)
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 08:22:53 PM
As far as I know, there is an option in the Home Edition to make the Guard react automatically when it finds a threat, but there is no such options for the scanner.

Would it be possible to translate that screen or post a similar screen from the English version?
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: onlysomeone on January 04, 2009, 08:29:01 PM
As far as I know, there is an option in the Home Edition to make the Guard react automatically when it finds a threat, but there is no such options for the scanner.

Would it be possible to translate that screen or post a similar screen from the English version?


i think it should be something like this ;) :
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 04, 2009, 08:38:30 PM
Okay, check Silent Mode and With General Answer Yes (OK)
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 04, 2009, 10:28:19 PM
Quote
yes--avast! will not touch the file, but then the file will not run and no progress has the access to it until a system restart

so if i check this option, the file will not be "touched" but also not "run" ....

... what it means? it will not be deleted, but also not copied?

in my case, i copy a punch of files:

1) it will skip the infected file and continue copy the other files?
2) it will skip the infected file and stop?
3) copy this and other files?

... and what does "No"?
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 05, 2009, 01:34:17 AM
I'll leave this to the Techs, as I'm in over my head. Apparently your version is different than mine.
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: leomin on January 05, 2009, 02:37:40 PM
sorry i'm back late and thanks for the english screen :)
"yes" means ignore and "no" means quarantine
but when avast! ignores a threat it doesn't mean that avast! totally ignores it, the infected file will be offline to all the progresses running in the system
so i assume(only an assumption) that the infected file will not be copied even you check on "Yes", but the Vorteil is that this single file will be skipped and the copying of the other files can be continued instead of waiting there for you to make a choice until next morning~~
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: onlysomeone on January 05, 2009, 03:33:43 PM
Vorteil
german?

sry for off-topic
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 05, 2009, 06:27:11 PM
i set option to "Yes" - now i never saw a popup waiting for my choice, but my sync tool "Microsoft SyncToy 2.0" always crash at half of syncroniation with the error "no access to file x"

mb this appears cause the option "yes"?
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: GrizeBar on January 05, 2009, 11:16:55 PM
Vorteil
german?

sry for off-topic

Yup, it means 'advantage'.
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 06, 2009, 04:14:16 PM
i tested it now several times, and i always get this error while copying files...
now i will test it without avast running - not my favorite way, but if there is no solution with avast -.-
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: onlysomeone on January 06, 2009, 06:52:24 PM
but if there are real viruses are found, these files should be quarantined or deleted!

or are you sure that these files aren't dangerous?
Title: Re: Define rules?
Post by: s0urce on January 06, 2009, 10:23:17 PM
ofc i am not sure, but if there is no other way...
...and it seems it wasnt avast, i stop the standard provider and the error occurs anyway - or have i to close the whole program?