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Title: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 21, 2009, 03:22:00 AM
Is it possible that if I upgrade my Ad-Aware 2008 Free to Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition) Free - witch has Live (resident) protection, that this protection would in any way interfere with my Avast 4.8 Home (Free) edition's resident protections? Please, tell me.  :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 21, 2009, 03:40:42 AM
I doubt it would interfere with avast, but my concern is its effectiveness as I feel there are better choices.

1. SUPERantispyware (http://www.superantispyware.com) On-Demand only in free version.
2. MalwareBytes Anti-Malware, On-Demand only in free version http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/malwarebytes/mbam-setup.exe (http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/malwarebytes/mbam-setup.exe), right click on the link and select Save As or Save File (As depending on your browser), save it to a location where you can find it easily later.
3. Or Spyware Terminator (http://www.spywareterminator.com/) Resident scanner (if you use this don't install the toolbar or crawler or the anti-virus module).

Or a-Squared free (http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/).

I suggest trying them in order as the order that represents the better detection and clean-up.

Some elements of the programs might not work if you have an older OS like win9x or winME, this is namely the resident protection in SpywareTerminator.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 21, 2009, 01:25:39 PM
Well, I am used to Ad-Aware for years, and I'd like to keep using it. I just hope that it's Live resident protection won't interfere with Avast! in any way. Avast is awesome, by the way. :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bluesman on January 21, 2009, 01:48:23 PM
Well, I am used to Ad-Aware for years, and I'd like to keep using it. I just hope that it's Live resident protection won't interfere with Avast! in any way. Avast is awesome, by the way. :)

Well...try it, and then you can report the results to other avast users ;)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 21, 2009, 07:28:45 PM
Hm, now I'm thinking about installing an other Anti-Spyware program.

Which one do you suggest, which one is the best of the free ones? What do you use?

(I have Avast 4.8 Home on Windows XP SP2.)

Thank you!
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 21, 2009, 07:32:39 PM
We (or rather I already have ;D), you just need to check my signature to see the two I'm using to accompany avast.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ardvark on January 21, 2009, 07:53:18 PM
Hi...

If you're looking for another program that offers realtime scanning for free, the choice is very limited...

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/defender/default.mspx (Windows Vista already comes with this.)

http://www.spywareterminator.com/

Windows Defender is more user friendly but less configurable while Spyware Terminator has more options but requires a bit more know how, in my opinion. Almost all of the other programs require you to pay in order to enable this feature. :(

Hope this helps. :)

May God Bless you! :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bluesman on January 21, 2009, 07:56:37 PM
Like DavidR, I'm using SuperAntiSpyware Pro and MalwareBytes AntiMalware
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 21, 2009, 08:11:03 PM
Thank you all for replies! But why do you use 2 anti-spyware programs?

I'm thinking of replacing Lavasoft Ad-Aware with SUPERAntiSpyware (Free edition) or SpyBot Search & Destroy (which even has the resident protection and is freeware). Which of those two you think is better? And which is better to have it with Avast? I don't want it to interfere with Avast.  :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 21, 2009, 09:21:44 PM
If the two anti-spyware applications are on-demand or only one is resident then there is no conflict and they then compliment each other, we see in these forums that one detects things that the other doesn't and that is why.

No contest SAS is the better, just because something has resident protection doesn't mean it has better detections and that really is the key here. In my list if I were to put S&D in it would be at no 4.

Item 3 in my list Spyware Terminator has resident protection, just make sure you also take the advice that I gave with it.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 21, 2009, 09:54:11 PM
Hello again!

I'm also thinking about having Avira's Antivir (Free edition) AND Alwil's Avast (Free edition) both on my machine, but with only one remote protection on (I would turn off the other one, so they would not interfere). Do you think this is a good idea? Or it's a stupid one?

Additionally I'm planning to install some anti-spyware products (free editions): Lavasoft's Ad-Aware, SpyBot's Search & Destroy, MalwareBytes' Anti-Malware and SUPERAntiSpyware, as you recommended.

Do you think that SpyBot's Or Ad-Aware's resident protection could interfere one with another or even with Avast's resident protections?

(I have Windows XP SP2 on a Pentium 3GHz with 1GB RAM.)

I apologise for asking/nagging, but I want to learn as much as possible before installing. Thank you for your answers and your patience.  :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ProgrammerGuy on January 21, 2009, 10:04:50 PM
Only one anti-virus should be installed...  That obvious choice between the two you mention is Avast!  There's always going to be some conflict even if one is 'turned off'...
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: polonus on January 21, 2009, 10:17:54 PM
Hi ProgrammerGuy,

There can be several non-resident av solutions and one resident av product on the same machine (the signatures should be not open to each other  though - Panda and avast do not agree in that respect),
I for one combine avast non-resident with ClamWin and DrWebCureIT.
Two resident av products together on one machine is problematic, because they will react somewhat similar as two dogs that have to guard one property and will start fighting among each other (bad for security of the property). The two will start to find each others signatures etc. so 'ergo conclusio' less security in stead of added security,

polonus
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ProgrammerGuy on January 21, 2009, 10:23:13 PM
Thanks 'polonus'; I have now been enlightened though that's contrary to what I read on another forum for another AV(G) which I shan't mention...
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 22, 2009, 01:48:26 PM
The personel at Avira said that it's not recommended to have two Anti-Virus programs, even if one's resident protection is "off". So I uninstalled Ad-Aware and am now using this combination:

Avast Home (Free) Edition, SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition and CCleaner.

I only don't understand why SUPERAntiSpyware.exe runs in the background all the time, if it's not using resident protection. Weird.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 22, 2009, 03:46:45 PM
The problem resolves round the fact that resident Anti-virus scanners install low level device drivers, these are what hook/intercept your call to execute a program, etc. so that your AV can first scan it.

Now disabling a resident AV just disables its services, etc. but it doesn't stop these low level device drivers from being loaded and it is these which can conflict as driver a battles with driver b for control over an intercept. This can on occasion cause a conflict, just how serious this conflict might be is the variable, worst case it could lock the system.

So this is why we don't recommend having two resident AVs installed even if one is disabled.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 22, 2009, 04:16:59 PM
I see... Interesting!  :)

But SUPERAntiSpyware's background running process won't interfere with Avast's protection & processes, right?  :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 22, 2009, 05:32:07 PM
They are different types of function anti-spyware V anti-virus, although the edges between both are blurred and there may be some overlap, we don't tend to see a problem between resident anti-spyware and resident anti-spyware.

Superantispyware free isn't resident in the same way even with a running process to enable you to do an on-demand scan (right click) on a specific file, it hasn't got low level drivers loaded to hook files so it might scan a file before opening like a resident AV. Even with the Pro version of SAS (which I have) doesn't seem to have any issues in combination with avast, nor for the most part any other resident anti-spyware that we might suggest in the forums.

The same is true of not having two resident anti-spyware applications as they too might conflict between each other.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 22, 2009, 06:54:03 PM
So... Should I install Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware and SpyBot's S&D to accompany Avast and SAS? Or are Avast & SAS enough?
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 22, 2009, 07:16:58 PM
I would say take a look at my signature below my posts (SAS and MBAM).
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 22, 2009, 07:57:16 PM
OK, I'll get MBAM too.  ;) But without S&D the only resident protection that I'll have will be Avast's. Do you think that's enough?
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 22, 2009, 10:08:52 PM
There is nothing to stop you continuing to use S&D for the limited resident protection it won't clash with avast.

I have the paid Pro version of SAS (one off small payment) which has resident protection, so don't need another resident anti-spyware.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 22, 2009, 11:00:31 PM
Do you use MBAM a lot? Regularly? What about SAS on-demand? I ran SAS quick and complete scan today and it says I have no malware. I'll only install MBAM now, I won't install S&D. I'll have just Avast for resident protection. Avast is a really cool program!
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 23, 2009, 12:02:44 AM
I run weekly scans for avast, SAS and MBAM as part of my regular weekly system maintenance, before running SAS and MBAM I download the latest updates.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 23, 2009, 12:35:49 AM
Aha. Well, I run Avast at least 2 times a day.  :P
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: polonus on January 23, 2009, 12:53:29 AM
Hi Bellzemos,

And it is also advisable to do a monthly full scan with programs like ad-aware or MBAM and SAS.
At least they themselves advise so, so who am I to disagree?
In the mean time a weekly quick scan may do, or you must suspect a recent infestation,

pozdravi,

polonus
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Diazruanova on January 23, 2009, 01:42:29 AM
The problem resolves round the fact that resident Anti-virus scanners install low level device drivers, these are what hook/intercept your call to execute a program, etc. so that your AV can first scan it.

Now disabling a resident AV just disables its services, etc. but it doesn't stop these low level device drivers from being loaded and it is these which can conflict as driver a battles with driver b for control over an intercept. This can on occasion cause a conflict, just how serious this conflict might be is the variable, worst case it could lock the system.

So this is why we don't recommend having two resident AVs installed even if one is disabled.

Hi David,

I have avast running as resident but also installed avira for on demand, but after reading your post here, I looked for some running avira drivers, and yes, there are three of them that boot along Windows (2000 Pro). Now I have had this configuration installed for more than one month and apparently there are no conflicts, or at least none that I am aware of.
Do you suggest un-installing avira? (it couldnĀ“t be the other way :)) or can I continue tempting my luck with both of them installed? 8)

Thanks a lot
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 23, 2009, 02:01:52 AM
That is the problem, you never know when they are likely to bite you in the a** and why we don't recommend it.

No way would I recommend uninstalling avast as IMHO it is better, whilst avira has relatively good detections, so to has avast, but avast has for more functionality that you don't get in avira, web shield, network shield, boot-time scanning, to name just those from the top of my head.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 23, 2009, 02:31:57 AM
Hi Bellzemos,

And it is also advisable to do a monthly full scan with programs like ad-aware or MBAM and SAS.
At least they themselves advise so, so who am I to disagree?
In the mean time a weekly quick scan may do, or you must suspect a recent infestation,

pozdravi,

polonus

Yeah, I see. I usually did a full-scan with Ad-Aware weekly, now I'm going to continue that tradition with SAS & MBAM.

Pozdrav!  :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Diazruanova on January 23, 2009, 02:35:47 AM
That is the problem, you never know when they are likely to bite you in the a** and why we don't recommend it.

No way would I recommend uninstalling avast as IMHO it is better, whilst avira has relatively good detections, so to has avast, but avast has for more functionality that you don't get in avira, web shield, network shield, boot-time scanning, to name just those from the top of my head.

Thanks David,

In fact I already UN-installed avira, mainly for the reasons you are explaining here and that is why, I installed avast as my resident AV instead of avira in the first place  ;)

Greetings from Mexico
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 23, 2009, 03:51:59 PM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: prettychinita on January 24, 2009, 07:36:38 PM
Hi there! Just like Bellzemos case..
I have recently upgraded my Ad-Aware 2008 to their new application Ad-Aware Anniversary Edition but aside from that I also have Avast! Free Home Edition 4.8.1296 as my Anti-Virus, is that ok? I mean one application is an anti-spyware and the other one's actually an anti-virus so it should not have any conflict right?

Im currently using the following programs as my line of defense:

OS: Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32-Bit

Anti-Virus: Avast! Free Home Edition 4.8.1296 with updated virus database

Anti-Spyware Porgram: Ad-Aware Anniversary Edition (with the Real Live Protection??), MalwareBytes
                               AntiMalware (MBAM), Windows Defender, SpywareBlaster (does this contradict with
                               Ad-Aware or not?), Trend Micro HiJackThis, CWShredder



**SpywareBlaster doesn't scan for and clean spyware--it prevents it from being installed in the first place. SpywareBlaster prevents the installation of ActiveX-based spyware, adware, dialers, browser hijackers, and other potentially unwanted programs. It can also block spyware/tracking cookies in IE, Mozilla Firefox, Netscape, and many other browsers, and restrict the actions of spyware/ad/tracking sites. ---> Is this considered as real-time protection as well? Should I then just shift to SuperAntiSpyware? I mean should I be uninstalling any of my current anti-spyware as mentioned above?
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ardvark on January 24, 2009, 07:50:07 PM
**SpywareBlaster doesn't scan for and clean spyware--it prevents it from being installed in the first place. SpywareBlaster prevents the installation of ActiveX-based spyware, adware, dialers, browser hijackers, and other potentially unwanted programs. It can also block spyware/tracking cookies in IE, Mozilla Firefox, Netscape, and many other browsers, and restrict the actions of spyware/ad/tracking sites. ---> Is this considered as real-time protection as well? Should I then just shift to SuperAntiSpyware? I mean should I be uninstalling any of my current anti-spyware as mentioned above?

Hi...

No, definately keep SpywareBlaster! :)

The program is "passive" and does not load or run in memory. It doesn't conflict with avast and shouldn't with any other application. I have installed SpywareBlaster on many systems and have never seen a conflict. ;)

In my opinion, you have a pretty good "line of defense." :)

May God Bless you!
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 24, 2009, 07:50:42 PM
I have recently upgraded my Ad-Aware 2008 to their new application Ad-Aware Anniversary Edition but aside from that I also have Avast! Free Home Edition 4.8.1296 as my Anti-Virus, is that ok? I mean one application is an anti-spyware and the other one's actually an anti-virus so it should not have any conflict right?

I don't know what functionality the latest adaware has - If it has a resident AV then yes it can conflict with avast even if disabled as they load low level drivers to intercept files so they are scanned before being run, etc.

Personally with the other applications you have AdAware is surplus to requirements not to mention it is a second resident anti-spyware (windows defender), which like AVs you should avoid having more than one resident anti-spyware...

SpywareBlaster conflicts with nothing it is a passive means of protection, it isn't running, so it isn't real-time (resident).

I have to declare that I'm no fan of AdAware as it really isn't keeping pace with other anti-spyware applications. However I haven't tried (and have no intention) the new version.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: YoKenny on January 24, 2009, 08:19:24 PM
Don't bother with Ad-Aware as it is now a second rate application.

Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ardvark on January 24, 2009, 08:36:25 PM
Don't bother with Ad-Aware as it is now a second rate application.

Hi...

Why is this? What is it not doing? It used to be a good program. ???

Best Regards...
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: prettychinita on January 24, 2009, 09:05:44 PM
Hi David! Thanks for the reply! I just have a few questions though..

Personally with the other applications you have AdAware is surplus to requirements not to mention it is a second resident anti-spyware (windows defender), which like AVs you should avoid having more than one resident anti-spyware...
---> so does that mean I would have to delete Ad-Aware since I already have a resident (built-in) anti-spyware which is Windows Defender? Is MBAM enough? Or should I then install SuperAntiSypware in exchange of Ad-Aware or no need to??

**And btw, I was thinking of installing a firewall I've been reading through some of the posts in the forum and I've read that there's been a problem with ZoneAlarm and Avast! being used at the same time? Is Comodo a better substitute then? Or it's not really required/necessary to download a firewall app anymore?
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 24, 2009, 09:08:56 PM
<snip>
Why is this? What is it not doing? It used to be a good program. ???

That's right, a long time ago it was a good program, it simply hasn't kept pace.

What's it not doing, detecting anything!
Previously the only thing it ever reported on my system was cookies, which on a scale of importance is a 1 out of 10.

Now just giving away resident protection in the free Anniversary Edition to my opinion doesn't change anything. I remember another date orientated product windows Millennium Edition and we all know just how good that was ;D
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: prettychinita on January 24, 2009, 09:09:44 PM

Hi...

No, definately keep SpywareBlaster! :)

The program is "passive" and does not load or run in memory. It doesn't conflict with avast and shouldn't with any other application. I have installed SpywareBlaster on many systems and have never seen a conflict. ;)

In my opinion, you have a pretty good "line of defense." :)

May God Bless you!

thanks  :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ardvark on January 24, 2009, 09:21:39 PM
That's right, a long time ago it was a good program, it simply hasn't kept pace.

What's it not doing, detecting anything!
Previously the only thing it ever reported on my system was cookies, which on a scale of importance is a 1 out of 10.

Now just giving away resident protection in the free Anniversary Edition to my opinion doesn't change anything. I remember another date orientated product windows Millennium Edition and we all know just how good that was ;D

Hi David...

Sounds like I struck a raw nerve. ;D

Thanks for your explanation. :)

Best Regards...
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ardvark on January 24, 2009, 09:22:59 PM
thanks  :)

Hi...

You're welcome, glad I could help. :)

Best Regards...
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 24, 2009, 09:29:09 PM
Hi David! Thanks for the reply! I just have a few questions though..
<snip>
---> so does that mean I would have to delete Ad-Aware since I already have a resident (built-in) anti-spyware which is Windows Defender? Is MBAM enough? Or should I then install SuperAntiSypware in exchange of Ad-Aware or no need to??

You need only look at my signature below my posts to get my answer ;D

I hate it when that swear word 'delete' is used, it has so many negative connotations when what you really mean is uninstall ;D so yes to uninstalling adaware.

**And btw, I was thinking of installing a firewall I've been reading through some of the posts in the forum and I've read that there's been a problem with ZoneAlarm and Avast! being used at the same time? Is Comodo a better substitute then? Or it's not really required/necessary to download a firewall app anymore?

I don't use any of those firewalls and I believe the later zone alarm is bloated with trial functions of the pro version in the hope you will buy it. It also restricts outbound protection in the free version again I guess so you will buy the pro version.

See A Forum discussion on free firewalls http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30808.0 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30808.0)
See http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php (http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php).

@ ardvark
Not a raw nerve, I just feel disappointed that many people rely on a program that really isn't up to the job. When I start to see adaware being recommended on certain malware removal sites as a tool to detect and clean malware then perhaps that would change.

I used to use AdAware and Spybot S&D for a long time when there were effectively best of breed but those days are gone. So I move on and leave the also rans behind, sorry if this is harsh, but for me that is how I see it
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: prettychinita on January 25, 2009, 12:06:42 AM
You need only look at my signature below my posts to get my answer ;D

I hate it when that swear word 'delete' is used, it has so many negative connotations when what you really mean is uninstall ;D so yes to uninstalling adaware.

I don't use any of those firewalls and I believe the later zone alarm is bloated with trial functions of the pro version in the hope you will buy it. It also restricts outbound protection in the free version again I guess so you will buy the pro version.

See A Forum discussion on free firewalls http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30808.0 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30808.0)
See http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php (http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php).

@ ardvark
Not a raw nerve, I just feel disappointed that many people rely on a program that really isn't up to the job. When I start to see adaware being recommended on certain malware removal sites as a tool to detect and clean malware then perhaps that would change.

I used to use AdAware and Spybot S&D for a long time when there were effectively best of breed but those days are gone. So I move on and leave the also rans behind, sorry if this is harsh, but for me that is how I see it

I just wanted to ask you said on your previous posts that SuperAntiSpyware is only on-demand.. But I just read on their website that they provide Real-Time Protection as well:

    * Real-Time Blocking of threats! Prevent potentially harmful software from installing or re-installing!
    * First Chance Prevention examines over 50 critical points of your system each time your system starts up and shuts down to eliminate threats before they have a chance to infect and infiltrate your system.
    * Schedule either Quick, Complete or Custom Scans Daily or Weekly to ensure your computer is free from harmful software.

"Why is SUPERAntiSpyware.exe process active all the time, if the Free editions doesn't have the resident (constant) protection?" --> By Bellzemos @ forums.superantispyware.com
Disable or remove it in "start_up"
but you'll get a better protection with the SAS Pro realtime_protection_shield
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 25, 2009, 12:26:20 AM
Well once again if you look at my signature you will see I have SAS Pro, the paid version with resident protection.

The reason there is a service running in the background of what is an on-demand scan is that if you right click on a file you can scan it then and there with SAS. Rather than have to do a complete scan of your system.

As has been said by your reply, you can disable it if you wish, but I believe that the context menu scan won't be available to you.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ardvark on January 25, 2009, 07:15:01 AM
@ ardvark
Not a raw nerve, I just feel disappointed that many people rely on a program that really isn't up to the job. When I start to see adaware being recommended on certain malware removal sites as a tool to detect and clean malware then perhaps that would change.

I used to use AdAware and Spybot S&D for a long time when there were effectively best of breed but those days are gone. So I move on and leave the also rans behind, sorry if this is harsh, but for me that is how I see it

Hi David...

I'm sorry to hear this about Ad-Aware concerning its effectiveness. :(

I will be curious to see how the Anniversary Edition stacks up...

Best Regards...
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: YoKenny on January 25, 2009, 11:29:03 AM
ardvark, if you are interested in my opinion it found nothing but my cookies I want to keep with the Quick scan.

I have hpHosts and MVPS HOSTS file installed and after two hours of its Full scan that was interrogating the HOSTS file at about 1 every 2 seconds I canceled it. 

I have un-installed it.

It is a shame as Ad-Aware was my introduction into the whole field of malware fighting back in 2000 although then it was known as spyware or adware.

It has not kept up with the times.

I like Windows Defender and WinPatrol. 
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ardvark on January 25, 2009, 06:15:44 PM
ardvark, if you are interested in my opinion

Hi YoKenny...

Yes, I am. Thank you for sharing this with me. :)

It is a shame as Ad-Aware was my introduction into the whole field of malware fighting back in 2000 although then it was known as spyware or adware.

It has not kept up with the times.

Mine too, believe it or not, and in the same time frame as well, 2000-2001, with version 4.6. :) I didn't realize the problems with it today were this extensive. :(

I like Windows Defender 

Me too. 8) It is my program of choice with my clientel as well. In part because it's...

1. Free
2. Offers realtime scanning
3. Easily configured and complexity is kept to a minimum.

Thanks, YoKenny! :)

May God Bless you!
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 26, 2009, 12:10:08 AM
Another question...

Do you recommend SpywareBlaster with Avast, SAS and MBAM? Is it worth having SpywareBlaster installed? Cons/pros? Has anyone had any issues with it? Thank you!  :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: YoKenny on January 26, 2009, 12:35:04 AM
SpywareBlaster is good to have and it is passive but you need to check at least once every two weeks (fortnight for the UK blokes) for an update.

I don't use SAS but it is good.

I use MBAM Fee version but I do not let it automatically update nor run a Quick scan because I prefer to do it manually when I choose.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: ardvark on January 26, 2009, 12:36:17 AM
Another question...

Do you recommend SpywareBlaster with Avast, SAS and MBAM? Is it worth having SpywareBlaster installed? Cons/pros? Has anyone had any issues with it? Thank you!  :)

Hi....

Yes, absolutely! I've not experienced any major problems with it in the years I have worked with it and it one of the programs I use on a regular basis with my clientel. The only issue I have come across with it a couple times was that it had a difficult time loading the definitions on Firefox and I had to repeatedly click "enable all protection" two or three times before they would "stick." However, there may have been other issues that were causing this rather that SpywareBlaster. Also, if you using Windows 98 and do not have the file MSVBVM60.DLL installed on your system, SpywareBlaster will come up with an error message stating that this file is needed to run the program. If you are running this particular OS and don't have this file, you can download a copy here...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7B9BA261-7A9C-43E7-9117-F673077FFB3C&displaylang=en

SpywareBlaster is indeed worth having and is a good supplement to the security software you are currently using. :)

May God Bless you!
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: normishmael on January 26, 2009, 05:13:07 AM
Yes,if the free edition of SuperAntiSpyware is set to NOT start with Windows,
the right click context scan does not work.
(However,you can hit the program shortcut,and start the process,do your right click scan,and the close the program through the little beetle icon in your tray.)
 Also,on the SuperAntiSpyware forum, they recommend the program be allowed to start with Windows,not only for the context scan functionality,but also because some malware can prevent security apps from starting.
The running process helps avoid this.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 26, 2009, 02:57:36 PM
I have 2 more questions...

1. I use Firefox for internet browsing. How SpywareBlaster handles Firefox updates? If Firefox updates itself, will SpywareBlaster still work right with the new FF version? I heard about some problems with FF/SB combination... Do you use Firefox with SpywareBlaster? Any problems?

2. Has SpywareBlaster many "false positives" - meaning it won't allow me to go to web sites that are clean, but "accidentaly" flagged as malicious by Spywareblaster? Is that a common/rare occurance?

Thank you! :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: normishmael on January 26, 2009, 08:07:48 PM
I have 2 more questions...

1. I use Firefox for internet browsing. How SpywareBlaster handles Firefox updates? If Firefox updates itself, will SpywareBlaster still work right with the new FF version? I heard about some problems with FF/SB combination... Do you use Firefox with SpywareBlaster? Any problems?

2. Has SpywareBlaster many "false positives" - meaning it won't allow me to go to web sites that are clean, but "accidentaly" flagged as malicious by Spywareblaster? Is that a common/rare occurance?


Hi Bellzemos.
 I have had the same SpyWareBlaster installation through at least two Firefox updates,with no problems related to updating.
I have had the problems with losing restricted site protection for some entries for
Firefox in SpywareBlaster.
Link to unresolved thread on this issue in their forum below:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=229360

I thank the site blocking list is pretty well maintained.
so false blocking has never been a problem for me.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 26, 2009, 11:38:08 PM
I have had the problems with losing restricted site protection for some entries for Firefox in SpywareBlaster.

What do you mean with this? I don't understand... Thanx!  :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: normishmael on January 27, 2009, 03:21:15 AM
Bellzemos,I am sorry,I was not more clear.
SpywareBlaster offers restricted site protection,in a manner similar to a extended host file.
In a normal case,when SpywareBlaster updates,a few new sites are added to the block list,and after downloading the update,you simply "enable all protection" to add the new sites to your list.
For some reason,some sites,30-40 in the Antivirus 2008-2009 family, were reverting to a unprotected state.
As thousands of people no doubt use the same combination of on demand scanners as I did,without problems,i feel it must be something unique to my system.
As it was not time proximate to a Firefox update,I do not thank that had any effect
on my problem.
I was somewhat disappointed that my help thread was simply abandoned by Java-cool.
In any event,I now use only A-Squared free as a on-demand scanner,and have had no more problems with restricted site protection loss in SpywareBlaster.
To be honest SpywareBlaster is more important for users of IE,than Firefox,but I did not mean to discourage you from using it.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: Bellzemos on January 27, 2009, 03:52:59 AM
Thank you. I have installed it.  :)
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: prettychinita on January 27, 2009, 07:36:53 AM
In any event,I now use only A-Squared free as a on-demand scanner,and have had no more problems with restricted site protection loss in SpywareBlaster.
To be honest SpywareBlaster is more important for users of IE,than Firefox,but I did not mean to discourage you from using it.


Hi normishmael! I just read ur response from the topic I posted with regards to A-Squared Free.. Just a question though, u said u now use A-Squared Free instead of SpywareBlaster.. Does that mean using both AS and SB would conflict each other? Or its ok to have both apps installed since SB (SpwareBlaster) is a passive program anyway?
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: normishmael on January 27, 2009, 09:16:43 AM
Hello prettychinita!

No,There is no conflict with A-Squared Free and SpyWareblaster.
They work fine together.
I still have them both on my computer.
It was Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyWare that I removed,but not
because of any proven conflict,just trimming where I can.

As far as Avast,its really pretty hard to find something it does not run well with.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: coppertrail on January 30, 2009, 04:14:03 AM
I have 5 Antispyware apps on my machine, all of which have resident scanning disabled (including AdAware 2009 AE). The only resident scanner I run is Avast!
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 30, 2009, 02:51:31 PM
Well you can certainly get too much of a good thing and 5 anti-spyware (AS) applications would certainly come under that heading. Though you don't say what the other four are I would say AdAware doesn't bring anything special to the party.

Apart from the you also become a salve to them in having to keep them all up to date multiple resident applications of the same category like AS or AV could conflict with one and other as even when resident functionality is disabled they may have drivers loaded.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: coppertrail on January 30, 2009, 03:00:12 PM
Who's to say that 5 Antimalware apps are too much? Especially when they're not running at startup and none of them are running resident scanning. They're not hurting performance or anything else being there.

I've read articles by experts that recommend having at least 3-4 different Antimalware apps. The reason being is one might be able to remove something the others don't.

As far as keeping them updated, it's not a hassle as I don't update definitons every day.

If anything, I'd say that's not too much of a good thing.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: DavidR on January 30, 2009, 03:26:14 PM
How do you know they aren't running at startup, just because you can't see anything loaded in the task manager doesn't mean that they don't load drivers at startup (as most resident security applications do to hook files for scanning) as they aren't displayed in the task manager.

This is the same as recommendation as not having two resident AVs installed because of the low level drivers that are still loaded even when the resident function is disabled.

Your system your choice, you haven't said what the AS (resident) application are that you have so I can't be any more detailed. It isn't my job to try to change your mind so I won't waste your time or mine trying.
Title: Re: Ad-Aware AE (Anniversary Edition)
Post by: mevcit on January 30, 2009, 03:55:27 PM
Calm down guys. :)

I use G DATA IS 2009 and Windows Defender for active protection; and use Avira Premium (no start-up item, no resident protection, and the remaining service is set as manual), A-Squared Free (the service is set as manual), Malwarebytes Antimalware, Spybot S&D for on-demand scans. I run the update processes only when I do a scan, and scan my computer approximately once a month. For immunization I have Spyware Blaster. I think there has been no conflict on my system so far. ;D

But David is also right, I think there are not any problems on my combination. If there is/are, say please. :)

By the way, I consider that using Ad-Aware is just waste of time and resources. ;D