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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Pondus on March 07, 2009, 02:02:38 AM
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http://mtc.sri.com/live_data/av_rankings/
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Not bad, room for improvement, some very strange results (bad) from some of the big players.
With only 4% difference between 1st and 12th (with avast at 11th) is only 4%.
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jepp, and ESET: The world`s fastest, most effective internet security suite......(http://www.eset.com/) jepp i can see that ;D
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I was surprised that Microsoft was 3rd and I guess the means Windows Defender.
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or this one : http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-gb/default.htm?mkt=en-gb#
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-= Sophos at top 1..? I heard that it have too many false positives.. Maybe, those false positives helped a lot for it to reach the top.. Most of the antiviruses that have the least detection of false positives are at the bottom.. hmm.. haha.. ;D
-= NOD32 is at the bottom..? It was a shock..
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Sooner or later we'll have an official word about the weakness of this particular test or the way it was conducted...
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I know we have to wait for the ALWIL's official words.
But I guess SRI test is basically different from the tests of both of AV Test and AV Comparative.
SRI says :
Our detection rates represent the TRUE POSITIVE detection rates. The results do not take into consideration the false positive rate of a given tool, and thus a tool that declares everything to be infected would appear to have the highest true positive percentage rate.
As they says, SRI's samples include clean files like as the samples Virus.gr took for their tests.
And also, SRI has NEVER said they put their samples to Virus Total before their giving them to some security vendors.
So, there may be time lag to detect their samples SRI had among security vendors.
I would like to be able to believe that SRI does NOT send any their samples to any vendors.
PS
I'm sorry I don't speak English well. Japanese is my native. ;)
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So, there may be time lag to detect their samples SRI had among security vendors.
But, what if the file is clean? They just set some files that have to be detected? Why? ???
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Hi, my dear, Tech
SRI knows their files include clean files as we know on their explanation
Our detection rates represent the TRUE POSITIVE detection rates. The results do not take into consideration the false positive rate of a given tool, and thus a tool that declares everything to be infected would appear to have the highest true positive percentage rate.
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Im surprised for the result also for nod32 because alot guy in internet say its the best when lol he is 30th
Hahahaha :D
Its made my day thank guy lol
PS : ALWIL didnt take care about this test you are still the best for me :D
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%3-%4 difference with top doesnt mean anthing in daily life so avast! is great and enough for me. Thanks Avast Team . :)
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I am not surprised of NOD32, my brother had it for three months and get many virus, so he replaced.
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-= Lets just wait for AV comparatives to release another result.. Moreover, AV conducts tests more accurate than other 3rd party websites..
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-= Lets just wait for AV comparatives to release another result.. Moreover, AV conducts tests more accurate than other 3rd party websites..
And you get this from where ?
av-comparatives would be considered a 3rd party website also, whilst it is a better source than many, however this test if you know its method and limitations then it is relatively good.
1. All antivirus binary analysis results are provided via virustotal.com.
2. Each binary is submitted for evaluation within 24hrs of our harvesting it live from the Internet. Each antivirus tool is only given this one attempt to detect the binary. Our intention is to evaluate how the antivirus tools are performing against the latest malware on the Internet, at least from the narrow vantage point of our honeynet.
So essentially this is somewhat different from av-comparatives.
The company has been around for some time and appears reputable, http://www.sri.com/about/ (http://www.sri.com/about/).
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It doesn't really convince me a bit but that is something to know. As I've always known avg is not the same with AVAST in detection and protection (believe me i am not being a fanboy here) i will pass this one . Please don't spam us with such things and besides VB or something similar i wouldn't even boyher reading.
have a nice weekend
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or this one : http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-gb/default.htm?mkt=en-gb#
I forgot about Windows Live OneCare.
A friend of mine uses it and she likes it because she says it is easy to use.
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one strange thing:
GData are yousing 2 antivirus engies Bitdefender and Avast (in 2009) ( in 2008 kaspersky and Avast)
Bitdefender is Nr.6
Avast Nr.11
GData Nr.15 ?....why
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-= So far, AV release a more detailed result than the one presented before so I put more trust in it..
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this test is alot strange because alot guy switched to avast free have say that avast have detect more trojan or thing on his cpu that avg missed and avg got 90 % detection ? huhuhu im not trusting this result i dont think its the true well let see av-comparative test when its done
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-= GData uses 2 antivirus engines..? Does it mean that it is better than avast and bit defender itself..?
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one strange thing:
GData are yousing 2 antivirus engies Bitdefender and Avast (in 2009) ( in 2008 kaspersky and Avast)
Bitdefender is Nr.6
Avast Nr.11
GData Nr.15 ?....why
I also find this test quiet suspicious...
But what has to be said is that GData really uses these two engines (Avast + BitDef.), but not the most actual ones... (something like Avast 4.8.1201 or i don't know which one exactly...) so probably there have been improvements till the actual version 1335 which the original avast! can use and the gdata-avast-engine not... (and that there is something similar with bitdefender)...
but i don't know :)
yours
onlysomeone
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The page seems to be updated every 24hrs
Antivir is now nr.1 and sophos nr.2
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That is basically what is said in the introductory notes of the submission of samples trapped in the honeynet being submitted to virustotal within 24hrs.
So it looks like after the submissions, the rolling totals and results are updated, so it is not bad in that respect.
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Too much noise in this test... :P
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so it is almost like a live virustotal ?
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Not quite, as it is only from sri.com's honeynet captured samples, however big that might be, but it wouldn't be as much as the sample submissions from all sources submittint to VT.
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if avast can add my zilontrainer.exe to the list so its will be a -1 in missed files because i think he didnt want to add it when 35 or more anti virus detect it
PS : Its a Trojan-Spy Ardamax so well its still amazing look out http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/6284bd01c3556399650ea45195d18b6f and avast didnt wanna add it i still scan on the chest and he didnt added it so far im cryed i was about to execute it so i hope there a virustotal web that saved me :D
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If you do a search for ardamax you will find that a) this is a legit keylogger, b) it was previously detected by avast, but then removed.
The problem with keyloggers is 'intent' there are legit programs and there are malicious ones and the legit ones can also be used for malicious intent, like any tool it can be used for good or evil and an anti-virus can't easily determine intent.
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-= Even though it is legit.. I hope avast still classify it as a "possible riskware" & be included in its detections..
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If you say its legit then its cant infect my pc right ?
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If you say its legit then its cant infect my pc right ?
No. It's legit because the company sells the program, you can uninstall it but it is a spy tool.
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-= I still can't believe that microsoft & sophos is at the 3rd spot while nod32 and g data at the lower ones.. well, many things might have improved..
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i told u this test is strange
Now Sophos is 1st there a fight Anti Vir vs Sophos lol
Cmon ALWIL punch them and go 1st lol
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This won't change dramatically as this is updated daily and so there won't be any huge changes, especially when you consider the small percentage spread over the top 12 in the results.
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avast! needs to employ more honey monkeys.
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lol by experience just two days before my last try to avg convinced me i am not going to let it go near my pc. i had a flash drive plug in my laptop and avg scaned it and found nothing than i had to go another computer and AVAST found two trojans and i thought something must be wrong here. rescanned it with avira and it did find the trojan. I ditched avg which i had payed for . bleh a piece of crap ???
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lol gery :D for this time my friend was not false that avg didnt picked alot trojan that avast find haha go AVAST !