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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: Avastfan1 on March 20, 2009, 07:38:48 PM
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Dear Forum,
I posted this question before but it has disappeared? :o
Will a manual install of IE8 adversely interfere with normal Window$ updates?
I have turned automatic updates off and manually update myself.
Would be keen for any help or guidance!
Avastfan1
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I think this is not the problem.
It worked for me on Vista, on XP it crashed... shame, I have to overinstall Windows and get back to IE6. Now I'm on Windows Update trying to get the good and old IE7.
IE8 will be released in next weeks by Windows Update. I've disabled my automatic update... what a nightmare...
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Personally I would wait and see if there are any issues with this, because IE is an integrated part of the OS, this isn't just a browser update.
See Tech's problem, http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=9671.msg364121#msg364121 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=9671.msg364121#msg364121).
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I'm now updating to SP3 and having to apply tons of Windows Updates patches to my XP installation...
I can't guess what get wrong, maybe it is not the addons, as I've tried to run IE in Safe Mode and it opens and closes (crash).
No error message, just opens and closes...
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I have updated 7 XP computers (all at SP3 level) and three Vista computers so far with nary a problem. This has been the easiest update of IE ever.
As of this morning, it is not available from Windows update. Of course, I always download the file first, save it, reboot, and then run the install. I did not pause any service of Avast.
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It's still a mystery for me what is wrong in my XP computer... ::)
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Dear All,
Thank you for the replies.
I took a risk and installed it on my computer (XP SP3) and two other computers (also XP SP3).
The installation appeared to complete without error. All computers are running perfectly. Up until now (you never know what's around the corner with Shiternet Explorer!)
Tech: I hope you get that problem with your computer sorted. As an expert I am sure you are best positioned to deal with it. :-)
Hope everyone has a great weekend!
Avastfan1
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Watch out for the first security update on IE8, there is an vulnerability/exploit already. Just another reason I always hang back.
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Also no problems here on updating to IE8 on win XP Pro SP3 ... it works just fine in the testing I performed.
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Watch out for the first security update on IE8, there is an vulnerability/exploit already. Just another reason I always hang back.
Can you provide a link so I can inform myself of the vulnerability?
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-= As of now, no problems on xp after installing it manually.. though I'll reformat my pc after 2 more days..
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For sure something is messed...
I've overinstall Windows, get IE6 back, it worked, update to IE7 through Windows Updates... failure.
I has IE7 before running... I also uninstalled K9 to see if it helps... nothing.
I removed IE7 and the IE6 is working.
I'm trying to update from IE6 directly to IE8.
Does anyone knows how to debug or log which problem could it be?
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Look up under windows for a logfile. IE8 creates one for itself (ie8_main.log). IE7 did the same albeit a different file name. When I get to my XP computer, I'll look it up.
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IE8 is running now... but, man, things became very very slow. I had only 1Gb of RAM in this XP machine and things take molasses to load... I do not know what get wrong in the first installation of IE8 and I do not know what makes my system slow right now.
By the way, it was not K9 filter. It's running now and IE8 is not crashing...
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On my 10-year old XP Pro computer with 384 M RAM, IE8 it loads as slow as IE7 did. However browsing is faster compared to IE7.
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I wish I could debug what is happening...
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How about using MSCONFIG and disabling all at startup. Then add one back at a time and see where the conflict is. The XP computers which I have updated successfully all have Windows FW, Windows Defender, and Avast running.
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I have nothing to disable at startup... two or three programs that I run for years in my XP and nothing related to Internet or browsing or IE at all. I'm deffragmenting the partitions... Man, a lot of programs are taking all the CPU to run, not only IE8...
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I would do it anyways since it would enable you to eliminate which program, if any, is causing the program. I will also assume you ran chkdsk and it reported no errors.
Does it run at proper speed in safe mode?
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IE8 - Manual install from Micro$oft Website failed on my XP SP3.
A download of IE8 (http://www.filehippo.com/download_internet_explorer/) from filehippo worked without any problems on both of my XP SP3 computers.
The M$ IE site said beta & filehippo showed final, I guess that was the difference. I did both upgrades to IE8 yesterday.
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I have nothing to disable at startup... two or three programs that I run for years in my XP and nothing related to Internet or browsing or IE at all. I'm deffragmenting the partitions... Man, a lot of programs are taking all the CPU to run, not only IE8...
I like System Explorer as it is an enhancement to Task Manager but I do not let it replace Task Manager
Major Features:
• Detailed informations about Tasks, Processes, Modules, Startups, IE Addons, Uninstallers, Windows, Services, Drivers, Connections and Opened Files.
• Easy check of suspicious files via VirusTotal or Jotti service.
• Easy search details about file/process via online databases.
• Security Extension for automatic check of processes,modules and selected files.
• "New Task..." dialog with integrated AutoSearch and AutoCompletion.
• Action History for monitoring processes activities.
• Performance graphs for monitoring usage of system resources in time.
• System Snapshots for easy finding of system changes.
• System Report builds rich text report containing major informations about your System.
• Multilanguage and Plugins Support.
• Can be used as Task Manager replacement.
http://systemexplorer.mistergroup.org
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Watch out for the first security update on IE8, there is an vulnerability/exploit already. Just another reason I always hang back.
Can you provide a link so I can inform myself of the vulnerability?
Knock yourself out, a present from my friend google, http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+ie8+vulnerability (http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+ie8+vulnerability) and http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/03/19/researcher-hacks-just-launched-ie8 (http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/03/19/researcher-hacks-just-launched-ie8).
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Watch out for the first security update on IE8, there is an vulnerability/exploit already. Just another reason I always hang back.
Can you provide a link so I can inform myself of the vulnerability?
Knock yourself out, a present from my friend google, http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+ie8+vulnerability (http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+ie8+vulnerability) and http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/03/19/researcher-hacks-just-launched-ie8 (http://www.thestandard.com/news/2009/03/19/researcher-hacks-just-launched-ie8).
As IE is the most popular browser the script kiddies love to play and boast to their other script kiddie buddies how they break things maybe with a hope of getting a meaningful paying job. ::)
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Yes it probably has more to do with one-upmanship on the first day launch of IE8 than anything else and winning $5000 and a system to boot.
So does it matter how popular IE8 is since it has only been released (technically we don't know how popular it is) or are we going to find out that this vulnerability exists in IE6/7 also, then it is a bigger user base.
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Thanks for the links to the vulnerability. Even if it is true, that vulnerablity would not be enough cause me to return to IE7. I am not as paranoid as others and practice safe hex.
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It would cause me not to install it until the patch was released, but since I don't use IE as my default browser I'm in no rush to install IE8 anyway. I haven't installed IE7 and by the looks of it I won't be, but end up installing IE8 when any kinks are ironed out that might be found early after release.
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-= I run IE8 in a very old pc with 256 MB RAM.. It wasn't really slow.. ;D For me I think its a little faster [and lighter in resources] than IE7..
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Same experience - I installed IE8 today on my vintage 2000 system (XP Pro SP3 - 1Ghz processor and 512Mb memory - the max for that machine) and it installed and runs just fine.