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Title: Firewalls!
Post by: magena777 on May 15, 2009, 12:39:40 AM
I have the Avast 4.8 Home Edition; however, i am using the Windows Firewall.  Can anyone please advise me if using the Windows Firewall is good enough protection along with this Avast 4.8 version? 

I am a beginner learning this stuff!  thanks ... :-\
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Lisandro on May 15, 2009, 12:50:53 AM
For a beginning, it's not bad.
Windows firewall give up inbound protection.
If you want outbound one, choose one of the freeware firewalls ;)

Online Armour (http://www.tallemu.com/free-firewall-protection-software.html)
PCTools (http://www.pctools.com/firewall/download/)
Outpost Firewall Free (http://www.filehippo.com/download_outpost_firewall/)
Comodo (http://www.filehippo.com/download_comodo/)
ZoneAlarm (http://www.filehippo.com/download_zonealarm_free/)

Personal Firewall Tests & Results. Firewall rating:
http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php
About the leak tests limitations: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=29259.msg247460#msg247460

Freeware firewalls:
http://www.firewallleaktester.com/tests_overview.php
http://www.thefreecountry.com/security/firewalls.shtml
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Mr.Agent on May 15, 2009, 12:51:22 AM
Well for me i never having any problem with it :) But i can say mine is the Vista one so i heard its not that bad :)

Mr.Agent
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: hlecter on May 15, 2009, 12:01:11 PM
I have the Avast 4.8 Home Edition; however, i am using the Windows Firewall.  Can anyone please advise me if using the Windows Firewall is good enough protection along with this Avast 4.8 version? 

I am a beginner learning this stuff!  thanks ... :-\

Hi;

Good enough is a very relative term, indeed.

Inbound protection is the most important. A must.

Outbound protection is more optional, many don't use it and many do.

Personally I like outbound protection and would not be comfortable without it.
My choice for firewall is ZA free.

Regards
HL
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Tarq57 on May 15, 2009, 12:20:19 PM
Hi Magena777,
it depends. A poorly set up firewall can leave you with less protection than a basic one which has no real setup involved.
What it depends on is how secure you want or need this computer to be, and how much you are willing to learn about internet security in order to ensure a low-risk environment.
If, for example, you are using the computer for banking or CC transaction, I personally would definitely want a two way firewall. (And a few other defense mechanisms, too.)
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Lisandro on May 15, 2009, 02:00:19 PM
Outbound protection is more optional, many don't use it and many do.
Vista has this protection. Just that it's difficult to configure.
I blocked outbound connection of some giveawayoftheday programs (that I'm not allowed to update).
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: magena777 on May 15, 2009, 02:48:14 PM
I do my banking transactions online alot. Also, purchases online, too.  So, what would be the best firewall to use and download that does not require alot of disk space, too?  Also, that may be FREE!

Recently, i have been having alot of virus attacks called:  Fake alert , trojan gen, etc., so i am worried about firewall attacks....  also, some name pop up saying  "securitydefender.com   and it told me to click on it and when i did .... avast made an alert of virus attack .....

so i do not know if my windows firewall is really protecting me ......please advise what to do here?
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Lisandro on May 15, 2009, 03:10:53 PM
See my reply above...
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: hlecter on May 15, 2009, 04:01:55 PM
Magena777;

Are you on XP or Vista or...

Then read the replies.

Regards
HL
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: magena777 on May 15, 2009, 04:21:33 PM

I have windows XP
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: CharleyO on May 15, 2009, 10:47:36 PM
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With XP, you have no outbound protection. So, you will need a software firewall as has been suggested above.

Also, never click on links in such pop ups as you did. Close them.


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Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: magena777 on May 15, 2009, 11:09:48 PM
OK ... thanks ....it seems these two are in the excellent category:   Outpost Firewall Free
Comodo


Also, do i need to add a spyware protection to the avast 4.8 version, all i really have is avast & windows firewall. Thats it for protection?
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Tarq57 on May 15, 2009, 11:59:37 PM
The idea of having a two way firewall is to control outbound applications. So if something nasty is on your computer, and tries to phone home, you have the opportunity to stop it, because the firewall will alert you.
It's possible you'll get a lot of alerts at first, and progressively less over time as the firewall learns the rules you give it.
So you have a little learning to do, as to what is safe to allow, and what might not be, when the popups start.

I would definitely recommend a demand scanner. A good way to double check your system is not harboring trojans etc.
No one application can catch them all, all the time.
Try MBAM (http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php) and/or SAS (http://www.superantispyware.com/download.html).
Both have free versions, both are very good. Download install update then run.

From you description, it sounds altogether likely that you may have the remnants of a rogue program on board, so don't be at all surprised if either of those scanners find some weird stuff. (You should always quarantine anything found, rather than delete it,unless you know it to be safe in which case it can be ignored.)

A gram of prevention is worth a kg of cure. "Google" SpywareBlaster, and MVPS Hosts file. No harm in improving the odds a bit by blocking known bad sites. If you use IE, nothing wrong with increasing the default security settings a bit, too. At least have it prompt to run scripts.
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: DavidR on May 16, 2009, 12:01:50 AM
The anti-spyware it an integral part of avast.

Though many forum members use one or both of these to compliment avast:
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Tarq57 on May 16, 2009, 12:07:04 AM
PS, if you choose the Comodo firewall, know that  the installer provides an included antivirus. This can not/should not be installed while Avast is installed. (2 or more AV's conflict.)
So although you have to download the "package", you can choose which of the components to install from it. Just choose the firewall. (Unless you want to change AV's, in which case install the lot, but uninstall Avast first..although that wouldn't be my choice.)
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Pondus on May 16, 2009, 12:55:13 AM
ASK LEO - firewall info

http://ask-leo.com/is_an_outbound_firewall_needed.html     Is an outbound firewall needed?


Ask Leo! Search Results on firewalls

http://ask-leo.com/ask_leo_search_results.html?cx=partner-pub-6711026890334492:2ql765kqz48&cof=FORID:10&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=firewall&sa=Search+Ask+Leo! 
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: DavidR on May 16, 2009, 01:26:49 AM
Me I'm biases, since I use the Outpost Firewall Pro and you get all the good elements in the free version that got the good results in the firewall tests, the other stuff is for the most part bells and whistles as I have much of them disabled in the Pro version.

See http://free.agnitum.com for a comparison of what isn't in the free version. The anti-spyware and Web protection are taken care of by avast, so in conjunction with avast you almost have the full Outpost Pro version level of protection.
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: magena777 on May 16, 2009, 06:49:58 AM
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I would definitely recommend a demand scanner. A good way to double check your system is not harboring trojans etc.
No one application can catch them all, all the time.
Try MBAM and/or SAS.
Both have free versions, both are very good. Download install update then run.

From you description, it sounds altogether likely that you may have the remnants of a rogue program on board, so don't be at all surprised if either of those scanners find some weird stuff. (You should always quarantine anything found, rather than delete it,unless you know it to be safe in which case it can be ignored.)

A gram of prevention is worth a kg of cure. "Google" SpywareBlaster, and MVPS Hosts file. No harm in improving the odds a bit by blocking known bad sites. If you use IE, nothing wrong with increasing the default security settings a bit, too. At least have it prompt to run scripts.



After downloading the two you mentioned above:  MalwareBytes Anti-Malware and SUPERantispyware.  Do i uninstalled them after before i download the SpywareBlaster?  I really don't need all three?  Right?


Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: dansorin on May 16, 2009, 08:34:37 AM
you can keep all three. you just run them manually when in need. altough, if you use IE, you should update Spywareblaster regularly.
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Tarq57 on May 16, 2009, 08:41:31 AM
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After downloading the two you mentioned above:  MalwareBytes Anti-Malware and SUPERantispyware.  Do i uninstalled them after before i download the SpywareBlaster?  I really don't need all three?  Right?
You don't need any of them. But there is no harm in having all installed unless you are running very short of disk space.
Both MBAM and SAS can be installed, and will only run when you command that, although SAS does start with Windows - a default recommended setting - that you can change with no ill effects.
SpywareBlaster once installed has an icon like a Knights' head (representing armour) and doesn't run at all. What you do is open the program, update it, select "enable all protection", let that happen, and close it. It makes some registry changes to block known bad websites/cookies, and places some other websites into the Internet Explorer "restricted zone".
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Mr.Agent on May 16, 2009, 02:15:46 PM
He can have like Avast!,WOT or Mcafee Site Advisor,SAS Free,MBAM Free,Windows Defender,Comodo or Outpost as Firewall,For browser IE and Firefox or Safari instead of Firefox he is also good.

But i can say he can have just Windows Defender with Avast! and his Firewall but if he feel that he is infected he can alway do a boot time scan with Avast! and fast scan with Windows Defender. If the two didnt find anything then he could get a extra like MBAM Free or SAS Free. But if he want another protection he can use SpywareBlaster.

Mr.Agent
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: sham1313 on May 16, 2009, 03:44:10 PM
     :)I am still kind of new here and don't really know if I should have click on one of the earlier post or reply here at the end. I have only ask a couple of questions here and this is only the second time I have reply to a question that some one els started. the question is that some said my windows firewall maybe off. how do I check this? if it is off I think I need to turn it back on.
thanks Sharon sham1313
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: hlecter on May 16, 2009, 03:58:59 PM
Go to Windows/Contol Panel - Windows Firewall and have a look.

Regards
HL
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: sham1313 on May 16, 2009, 04:52:03 PM
    when I click on the link in my bluelight it took me right to your message I well read the URLs that you sent me and some of the above will help me to, but you say for me to ask leo he must be some one in this certain Forum. I guess I will see if I can fine him to ask. on these URL'S I'm almost sure the answer will be there too. just letting every knowI am not to Bright at doing the up keep of this computer. all so my grammer is not good and some times people have trouble understanding me because of my lack of schooling. please let me know of any thing I write here is like that. I will re-write and try to do better. thanks Sham1313
thanks Sharon sham1313

ASK LEO - firewall info

http://ask-leo.com/is_an_outbound_firewall_needed.html     Is an outbound firewall needed?


Ask Leo! Search Results on firewalls

http://ask-leo.com/ask_leo_search_results.html?cx=partner-pub-6711026890334492:2ql765kqz48&cof=FORID:10&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=firewall&sa=Search+Ask+Leo! 

Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: YoKenny on May 16, 2009, 05:33:14 PM
 
Ask Leo! Search Results on firewalls

http://ask-leo.com/ask_leo_search_results.html?cx=partner-pub-6711026890334492:2ql765kqz48&cof=FORID:10&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=firewall&sa=Search+Ask+Leo! 
Have a look at Vista Firewall Control topic:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30234.15 <== second page has good information

Sharon, you could update your profile to indicate the system you are using.
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: sham1313 on May 16, 2009, 06:52:21 PM
I found and and turn it on thank you.
Sharon sham1313

Go to Windows/Contol Panel - Windows Firewall and have a look.

Regards
HL
Title: Re: Firewalls!
Post by: Tarq57 on May 17, 2009, 02:47:26 AM
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     :)I am still kind of new here and don't really know if I should have click on one of the earlier post or reply here at the end. I have only ask a couple of questions here and this is only the second time I have reply to a question that some one els started. the question is that some said my windows firewall maybe off. how do I check this? if it is off I think I need to turn it back on.
thanks Sharon sham1313
Sharon, I answered this for you 2 days ago, here. (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=44788.msg378903#msg378903)
Have you stopped reading my replies to your old questions?
I also mentioned it's a good idea to do one thing at a time, and post follow up to the threads they were started in.
So I say it again here. You've got unresolved problems in your two main threads that are still running and being replied to. In some cases it is not known whether you have followed the advice offered in some of the reply posts, because you have not always indicated you have read a post or done what is suggested.
Example: I still don't know if you have tried running the AVG removal tool as an administrator (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=44788.msg379420#msg379420).
There is no need nor is it really appropriate to post your question to somebody else s' thread.

Hope that answers your question at the beginning of the quote.