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Title: Avast review rated #11
Post by: martik on May 17, 2004, 12:51:37 AM
http://www.anti-virus-software-review.com/avast-review.html

Any comments on this rather poor rating of Avast. I have tried the top-rated bitdefender but prefer avast because it has more options such as email, p2p, autoupdate etc.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: shgoh on May 17, 2004, 01:25:20 AM
avast! is rated #1 here though ;)
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: .: Mac :. on May 17, 2004, 02:13:49 AM
Under support they dont mention this forum!!! thats the best part and what do they mean it doesnt perform as well as the top ranking ones? this little jewl gets lots of Virus Builitten 100% awards!!!!!!!
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: videonut on May 17, 2004, 03:32:27 AM
What scares me the most is there is no 12th place!   ie. Avast came in LAST!  
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Lisandro on May 17, 2004, 04:39:42 AM
I will no comment this rate...
To everybody here, avast rulez  8)
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: LordDragonDan on May 17, 2004, 06:00:53 AM
You have got to be kidding. This reviewer left out the phone and email support as well. I have used the email before when I had and install problem (after I replaced a hard drive). They responded very very quick and it certainly wasn't an automated response! They also said the on demand and resident scanner were good. Ha! Avast catches things McAffee and Nortons miss. I have to wonder who owns and interest in this publication? Many aren't as "independant" as the claim. I know from the auto industry that review are often not independant. I notice that it is an eCatapult site. I went to eCatapult.com. Stange, when I clicked on "about us" I couldn't access the page. Even after disablling my firewall for the site. I know from the auto industry that review are often not independant.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: martik on May 17, 2004, 06:20:34 AM
You have got to be kidding. This reviewer left out the phone and email support as well. I have used the email before when I had and install problem (after I replaced a hard drive). They responded very very quick and it certainly wasn't an automated response! They also said the on demand and resident scanner were good. Ha! Avast catches things McAffee and Nortons miss. I have to wonder who owns and interest in this publication? Many aren't as "independant" as the claim. I know from the auto industry that review are often not independant. I notice that it is an eCatapult site. I went to eCatapult.com. Stange, when I clicked on "about us" I couldn't access the page. Even after disablling my firewall for the site. I know from the auto industry that review are often not independant.


I agree, you can't always trust these reviews to be unbiased. Avast is much better than AVG which rated 3rd.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: DavidR on May 17, 2004, 11:00:53 AM
These reviews, I fear are carried out over a short period of time, hense the missed pnone, email and forums for support.

It seems strange that in one breath they can say "It does provide good protection with the on-demand scanner along with the resident scanner. The email protection is adequate for POP3, SMTP,IMAP acounts." Then say it wasn't as effective as some of the others not all.

Based on this alone I feel avast should have been ranked higher, because after all this is about effectiveness (ani-virus protection) and is not a Beauty Contest.

Then to be beaten over the head by a comment relating to the Home version (it doesn't have script blocking) when the review is about Avast pro, which does have it.

When 4 of the top ten don't have Script Blocking in their paid for version and one of those managed to come third? To me the review is flawed.

This forum is populated with dissatisfied customers of many of those AV products ranked in the top ten, go figure!

Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Datagg on May 17, 2004, 11:27:31 AM
The reviewer is actually a Norton employee my sources tell me. :o





Avast rules period......
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: watchthisspace on May 17, 2004, 11:54:33 AM
I used to use AVG and I had 3 trojan virus i picked up while downloading a couple of pictures off Kazaa lite and did AVG find them??? No,
When i put Avast! 4 Home edition and it found those 3 trojans when it did the boot scan.
Avast! should 1st or 2nd or even 3rd not 11th!!
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: JAM-Computers on May 17, 2004, 04:43:49 PM
As a user of Avast, that review irratates me.  It doens't seem to be based on any kind of facts.  I sent that site the following email.  To show my disdain for their abhorrent behavior.

I emailed that review site this email

Hello,

I am a user of Avast home the "FREE" version and I have to state that it seems that you missed a few things about this program in your review.

First,
Under Help/Documentation you left out that even "Free" users have an on-line forum for help question found here,

http://forum.avast.com/index.php

and can email Avast directly at this email address

support@asw.cz.

found on their support page here

http://www.avast.com/i_idt_144.html

or by phone

(+420) 274 005 333.

or fax

(+420) 274 005 888.

found on their contact page here

http://www.avast.com/i_idt_140.html

As you can see they clearly offer the home user even the "FREE" user a superb level of support.  I have personally used the email and forum with great results.

Second,
Perhaps you missed their Awards page found here

http://www.avast.com/i_kat_13.html

Their Avast states that it is "ICSA" certified and has won numerous "Virusbtn" awards.  Along with a whole host of other awards.

Avast offers more than some "Pay" programs with subscription fees, to the home user for "FREE", I personally switched from "Norton" to "AVG" and then to "Avast".  "Avast" found two virus's that neither of the other two did, one was a worm the other a Trojan.  Avast also offers a virus removal tool, and can speak in ten languages.  I said speak because Avast also has verbal sound cues when a virus or possible threat is detected.  Avast is also skinnable, meaning you can replace the original appearance with "user" created interfaces.  One of Avast most endearing features is it forum which has over 4000 registered users, is actively moderated, and is a great place to get help.  Perhaps another look at "Avast", one that explores the program much more completely, is required by your reviewer to get the rest of the facts about "Avast".

Sincerely,
James Roettger

I will let you know if they email back.

Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: eda on May 17, 2004, 05:34:17 PM
There is official mail sent to this site:

Dear friends,

maybe it's not the first time I'm writing you about the review of avast! 4 Professional Edition on your site:

http://www.anti-virus-software-review.com/avast-review.html

There are some comments:

1. The developper and producer of avast! line of antivirus is:
ALWIL software - www.avast.com

2. I like to ask you to fill and send me the check table of avast! 4 Pro. If you do it, you'll find that the most of "features" is included in the avast! 4 Pro and there is very little number of missed one - be so kind and try to name them!

3. I'm not going to change your mind about the Ease of use, instalaltion or help/documentation. But the effectiveness is the next point I like to ask about. In AVG you wrote:
Effectiveness:    
The VB 100% logo is awarded to anti-virus products that:  etc.
Maybe you can find how many times avast! was awarded in the last two years and compare it with AVG results.

4. What I can't understand at all is 1 1/2 of 4 Overall rating with all ratings set to 2 of 4 and in the text we received 3 of 4 points for simplicity of instalation.

5. maybe you'll be interested, that we provide very popular avast! user forum at

http://forum.avast.com

where your review were comented by some of our users:

http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=4566

We like to receive any feedback. We count it as the most important way to improve our products, but your review doesn't contain anything which can help us or help our customers.

I like to ask you for answer

P.S. I'm going to post this mail as the official answer at our forum...

Best regards    Eduard

Eduard Kucera
Vice President
ALWIL Software
Prubezna 76, 100 00 Prague 10, Czech Republic
phone: +420 274 005 666, fax: +420 274 005 888
E-mail: kucera@asw.cz
Web: www.asw.cz, www.avast.com
 
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: jg_778x on May 17, 2004, 07:21:48 PM
I'm very happy with Avast! ;D
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: RejZoR on May 17, 2004, 07:48:49 PM
Haha AVG better than avast!. They got to be kidding.
All these reviews are so untrusted doh...

You can get best review on Download.com under rating comments.
Under Norton there are only few positive comments and under avast! there are just few negative comments. So which one is beter than?

Also i have tested practically all antivirus programs and AVG is the one which should be on the last place sharing it with H+BEDV. Ok they are free,but definitely not better than (free) avast! HE which is superb against those two which don't have ANY support (its only for payable products,and you cannot even submit suspect file if you don't pay for their product. This kinda s**ks doesn't it?)
On the top,there could be only Pc-cilln,NOD32,BitDefender and Kaspersky. Oh and ofcourse avast!.

And with my little tweak tool you can get rid of even the toughest parasites out there!

EDIT:
After some more reading i started to laugh out very loud ahaha lol. This review is the most primitive of all of them.
I mean they mention features for some antivirus like ICSA which is needed for any antivirus to be sold at all (its like a Quality assurance standard required for the product to be sold). Also i don't know where did they miss the VB100% awards where AVG performs terribly against avast! and other antivirus solutions.
I think someone should complain because they are giving false opinions on software like avast! and the whole review isn't serious at all.
Heh guess i'll have to start writting reviews on my page to give correct point on all of this ::)

EDIT 2:
I'll send the complaint by myself. They are doing reviews on personal opinion and not by the facts. The most hated thing from my perspective are false reviews (the most noticeble is in gaming industry but as it seems normal PC software isn't so different...)
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: JAM-Computers on May 17, 2004, 08:34:18 PM
Rejzor, I sent them a complaint as well.  
Read
UP  
a few posts.  
I think we should ALL complain!
  >:(  Probably, the Irish in me  ;D
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: RejZoR on May 17, 2004, 08:53:12 PM
Hehe you did the nice mail. Mine turned out into serious complaint with not so nice "sound".
I didn't focused on avast!,but on the overal undetailed and misleading review with reviewers own opinions instead of techical facts.

Here is also the real ladder which has been done by our own test on Security-Ops :)

#1 BitDefender
#2 ESET Nod32
#3 PC-cillin
#4 AVAST! 4.1 Pro
#5 F-Secure Anti-Virus
#6 McAfee VisurScan
#7 F-Prot for Windows
#8 Panda Anti-Virus
#9 Norton AntiVirus
#10 AVG Anti-Virus
#11 eTrust EZ Antivirus

This is how the thing really stands but there was also the point on which avast! could get into 3rd place but some other factors forced it on 4th place. Its also a very good result :)
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: .: Mac :. on May 17, 2004, 09:25:25 PM
ah goo to see avast nad F-Secure next to each other
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: bassbag on May 17, 2004, 09:44:33 PM
fprot for windows "effectiveness" summary sums up this site...

Effectiveness:    
F-Prot did do a good job as far as effectiveness.  A 1.5GB folder on my PC(PIII/650MHz) took 12 minutes to scan; not too bad.  
 

Wowee...3 out of 4 antiviral effectiveness because it scans the guys computer in 12 minutes !!!
Pathetic really isnt it.I just hope no one actually takes that site seriously.
me
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: RejZoR on May 17, 2004, 09:58:15 PM
It takes avast 12min to scan 20GB disk of mine (Maxtor,5400 RPM,2MB cache) :P :D
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: martik on May 18, 2004, 01:18:58 AM
It takes avast 12min to scan 20GB disk of mine (Maxtor,5400 RPM,2MB cache) :P :D

15 mins for a standard scan on 44GB of a 80GB WD 7200 RPM, 8MB cache on an Athlon XP 1700+ with 256MB
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: neal62 on May 18, 2004, 02:17:59 AM
I also sent this company an e-mail that questioned the validity of their so called test and the ratings of Avast. Perhaps this might wake someone up, perhaps not, but at least they will know that what their report states is not factual to alot of Avast users. ;)
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: RejZoR on May 18, 2004, 07:23:27 AM
I also don't get it how did they managed to put ESET's NOD32 on 8th place!? And under detection efficiency it doesn't get 4 out of 4 !? Every idiot knows that NOD32 has the most sophisticated detection engine on the market (100% detection in all VB100% tests). When i do the job,i do it thoroughly not like this reviewer heh ??? ::)
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: .: Mac :. on May 19, 2004, 12:13:40 AM
Here Is my Email to them:

Hello,

I do not know Why you rated Avast! so badely. Especially in the support area when all users Home OR Pro have a Forum to get help on at
http://forum.avast.com/index.php
and can email Avast directly at this email address
support@asw.cz.

Avast! Has won many VirusBtn 100% awards so why is it rated low on preformace?

I hope you will re-evaluate Avast! in the near future.


                                                 
--------------------------------------------
Assistant Editor of MacWorld Mag.
www.macworld.com
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: BBFI on May 19, 2004, 01:04:24 AM
Back in November 2003, we had a post on this same site http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1801 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=1801). It appears that nothing much has changed from these so called 'reviewers' since then. They still do not like Avast. :o
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on May 19, 2004, 01:41:54 AM
Hahaha... and take a look at this one (form the same review - link martik  gave us in his first post):

Quote
It also would have a much better look if it was consistent throughout the package. For example, the "on-demand" scanner window has a nice interface which is intuitive and easy to use. Most of the other screens have a standard Microsoft Windows look and feel to them. Overall, it doesn't seem quite as polished as many of the other programs reviewed.


NOT POLISHED AS MANY OTHER PROGRAMS ???
Is he blind or just stupid ? Oh my God... Oh my...

Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: LordDragonDan on May 19, 2004, 02:00:03 AM
Hahaha... and take a look at this one (form the same review - link martik  gave us in his first post):

Quote
It also would have a much better look if it was consistent throughout the package. For example, the "on-demand" scanner window has a nice interface which is intuitive and easy to use. Most of the other screens have a standard Microsoft Windows look and feel to them. Overall, it doesn't seem quite as polished as many of the other programs reviewed.


NOT POLISHED AS MANY OTHER PROGRAMS ???
Is he blind or just stupid ? Oh my God... Oh my...



I vote for stupid.

Actually, I originally thought they were bias for other reasons (like money). But after having a second look at the site, I realized they are just plain incompetent.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: wilbertnl on May 19, 2004, 02:58:48 AM
http://www.anti-virus-software-review.com/avast-review.html

Any comments on this rather poor rating of Avast. I have tried the top-rated bitdefender but prefer avast because it has more options such as email, p2p, autoupdate etc.
This review is more s list of statements, I miss the foundation of these statements. For each statement I read, I think: how did they come to this rating and to this conclusion. How do they measure?

This review is rated #11 in my list of reviews.  :D
I suggest that you read better founded reviews first.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: martik on May 19, 2004, 03:53:27 AM
I use a router and enable the firewall therefore no need for a SW firewall.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: DavidR on May 19, 2004, 11:51:32 AM
I use a router and enable the firewall therefore no need for a SW firewall.

My understanding of a router is it effectively masks (stealth) all ports downline of the router, so blocking most/all incoming hostile traffic.

But what stops outbound traffic  ??? not your router, unless it also has some sort of software interface?

If my understanding is incorrect I'm sure someone will correct me.

You say you enable the firewall, the Windows XP default one I assume? If this is correct then you need to cross your fingers as well as it is pretty basic at stoping outbound trafic. Many people recommend that you use a third party firwall rather than the XP firewall.

Perhaps you need to do a LeakTest at grc.com and confirm your router protects you from outbound traffic.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on May 19, 2004, 12:22:35 PM
I use a router and enable the firewall therefore no need for a SW firewall.

My understanding of a router is it effectively masks (stealth) all ports downline of the router, so blocking most/all incoming hostile traffic.

But what stops outbound traffic  ??? not your router, unless it also has some sort of software interface?

If my understanding is incorrect I'm sure someone will correct me.

You say you enable the firewall, the Windows XP default one I assume? If this is correct then you need to cross your fingers as well as it is pretty basic at stoping outbound trafic. Many people recommend that you use a third party firwall rather than the XP firewall.

Perhaps you need to do a LeakTest at grc.com and confirm your router protects you from outbound traffic.

You are right my friend... hardware + software firewall = perfect combination

You have some Hardware routers/firewalls like Linksys, with outbound protection also... but alsways is good to use software too...

Cheers !
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: JAM-Computers on May 19, 2004, 09:21:39 PM
That site has

Bitdefender as #1
Here is virusbtn.com rating
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?bitdefender.xml

PcCillin as #2
Here is virusbtn.com rating
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?trend.xml

Avg as #3
Here is virusbtn.com's rating
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?avg.xml

and our AVAST is ranked 11th
again here is virusbtn.com's ranking
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?avist.xml

Seems to me that our AVAST can hang with any of those and outright trounce most or all of the 11 on the list.  Futher proof that this review is CRAP!
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Lisandro on May 19, 2004, 10:24:05 PM
We are loosing time with this rank...  :-*
Ask to anybody is avast is the 11th or not  :P
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Dwarden on May 19, 2004, 11:55:15 PM
 ;D :o

http://www.anti-virus-software-review.com/index.html

WHERE THE HELL IS IN FEATURE COMPARSION TABLE AVAST 4.1 ?

i answer myself, they NOT included it to make sure rest of AVs not looks like joke :)
(ok to be fair just most) ...
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: MikeBCda on May 20, 2004, 01:18:25 AM
I won't bother writing them myself, but I'm sure others here still will (besides the ones who already have, that is).

One suggestion is to facetiously "compliment" them on apparently having invented what must be brand-new testing methods and benchmarks, since their results disagreed with just about every other third-party service's assessment of not only avast but the others as well.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Dwarden on May 20, 2004, 02:02:29 AM
Scanning Capabilities   Avast!Pro 4.1.396   Avast!Home 4.1.396
On-access Scanning   Yes   Yes
Realtime Scanning   Yes   Yes
On-demand Scanning   Yes   Yes
Scheduled Scanning   Yes   Yes
Heuristic Scanning   Yes   Yes
Manual Scanning   Yes   Yes
Script Blocking   Only infected   No
Scan Compressed Files   Yes   Yes
Auto-Clean Infected Files   Yes   Yes
Quarantines Infected Files   Yes   Yes
Email POP3 Protection   Yes   Yes
WebMail Protection   Yes   Yes
Instant Messaging Protection   Yes   Yes
Other Features      
Password Protect Settings   Yes   No
Pass ICSA Tests   Yes   Yes
Integrated Firewall   No it's AV   No it's AV
Updates      
Automatic Definition Updates   Yes   Yes
Automatic Program Updates   Yes   Yes
Manual Definition Updates   Yes   Yes
Manual Program Updates   Yes   Yes
Yearly Subscriptions to Definition Updates   Yes   Yes
Technical Support      
Toll-Free Phone   No   No
Fee-based Phone   Yes   Yes
Email   Yes   Yes
Chat   Yes   Yes
Knowledge Base/FAQs   Yes   Yes
Product details   Yes   Yes
Supported Configurations      
Windows 95   Yes   Yes
Windows 98/98SE   Yes   Yes
Windows ME   Yes   Yes
Windows NT 4.0   Yes   Yes
Windows 2000 Pro   Yes   Yes
Windows 2003 Server   Yes   Yes
Windows XP/XP Pro   Yes   Yes
Macintosh   No   No
Linux   No *1   No *1
MS-DOS   No *2   No *2


*1 - Avast use standalone product for Linux, VBA100%award      
*2 - For this obsolete OS there is Avast! 7.5 , still updated      

No mention this product received various VBA100% awards.
No mention this product support also various P2P programs.
No mention this product support critical PUSH update feature.
...etc..

- Avast help files is part of installation, reachable over F1 in AV main program window.
- Avast support forums actively visited by Alwil staff
- various types of tests for viruses are usually in rating very good upto 100%
- Your script blocking description is incorrect, AV must know this script flaw/exploit to
be able block it , so they can't stop virus if these script definitions are not updated too.
Or You meant script blocker which totally prevent execution fo ANY Java, VBS, VM etc scripts?
Quote
Script Blocking  
Script Blocking technology monitors Java and VBS scripts and alerts users of virus-like behavior. They stop these viruses before they can infect a system without needing virus definitions.    

Your site is now point of jokes for publishing awfull reviews.

P.S. Your miserable score for NOD32 (probably top1 AV in world) seems to be questionable too ...

---
well let see if they learned theirs lesson  ;D ;)
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: .: Mac :. on May 20, 2004, 09:24:49 PM
Quote
Macintosh   No   No

and I want to see this Fixed SOON
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Staind on May 20, 2004, 10:39:20 PM
Hello.

I recently read your list of Anti virus reviews and I'd have to say that
the review is total bogus (found here:
http://www.anti-virus-software-review.com/). I hate to inform you of
this but Grisoft AVG has only passed four AV "INW" tests, while Avast!
passed nine.  To say that AVG's scanner is much better than Avast is
totally bogus (VirusBT ratings here:
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?).  Another thing
is,  Avast! has much more features than AVG, allowing real time scanning
of applications such as trillian, kazaa, DC++, etc.  AVG does not offer
these features.  Also, when AVG picks up a virus there is no automatic
removal, you must scan the entire computer to remove the virus while
Avast!'s resident shield can do it for you.

Another thing is you didn't specify the entire amount of support that
Avast! offers you (which I know other people have already sent you
emails about).  They have a forum, phone and email support.  Plus, a
large group of dedicated users who are willingly to help at any time.  
Maybe if your reviewer actually went to the Avast! website (which is
www.avast.com , please forward that to him) he would realize this.

My last problem with the review is the reviewer claiming that Avast!
looked like shit: "It also would have a much better look if it was
consistent throughout the package. For example, the "on-demand" scanner
window has a nice interface which is intuitive and easy to use. Most of
the other screens have a standard Microsoft Windows look and feel to
them. Overall, it doesn't seem quite as polished as many of the other
programs reviewed."  Well, I'm sorry but when you rate an Anti virus
based on it's look there's a fucking problem.  That comment really
pissed me off, because AVG looks like it's from some Windows 3.1 -
blocky, disgusting and overall shitty.

Thanks for reading.
PS. I also liked how the reviewer did not know how to average scores.  
Since when did getting 5 ratings of "2" result in an overall score of
1.5?, I also liked how in the review Ease of setup was marked as rated
3, while in the overview it was marked as rated 2.  It's obvious the
person who did this review is biased, and should be stopped from making
more reviews so people don't miss out on great products, such as Avast!
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on May 20, 2004, 11:05:51 PM
My last problem with the review is the reviewer claiming that Avast!
looked like shit: "It also would have a much better look if it was
consistent throughout the package. For example, the "on-demand" scanner
window has a nice interface which is intuitive and easy to use. Most of
the other screens have a standard Microsoft Windows look and feel to
them. Overall, it doesn't seem quite as polished as many of the other
programs reviewed."  Well, I'm sorry but when you rate an Anti virus
based on it's look there's a fucking problem.  That comment really
pissed me off, because AVG looks like it's from some Windows 3.1 -
blocky, disgusting and overall shitty.

As one of two avast! skin designers, I must interupt here... no one tried to rate avast! by it's look. They just mentioned that as one of few other normal things that should be rated in all programs, not just avast! Let's be realistic... GUI or Graphical User Interface is very important... very important. Maybe not to you, but to all others, that's for sure. Just ask them, I'm 100% sure what kind of answers you'll get...

Second thing - if you already answered to them regarding avast! look the way you did, you could also mention that their review maker forgot to take a closer look at avast! and all other features as changeable skins. I mean, if someone has all those privileges to review such a good product, he needs to know product that he reviews as his own palm... he can not make review and I'm 300% sure he doesn't know anything about avast! forum , avast! skins download section, or any other useful part of this comunity....

As they already forgot, you could mention that there are some nasty, gamey, modern, professional, plain or neat skins in there... something little for everybody. Just try to find one thematic that is not covered by our skins. I think, we deserved that people find out about our hard work, at least...

If they said "avast! is ugly, no graphic interface, blah, blah...", you could say this: "...no it's not true ! avast! has more than 15 good looking skins. You just have to try them and find one apropriate for you...", and not "f**k the look of the program..."

You reacted on their review, so you could give them some directions.

Cheers !
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Staind on May 21, 2004, 02:05:40 AM
My main point was though, that GUI shouldn't have really been added into the ratings. Honestly, if you had a choice between a crap looking Anti virus and could find every virus, or one that looked great and found very few viruses which are you going to pick? (luckily, Avast! looks great and finds viruses :P)
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Staind on May 21, 2004, 02:06:04 AM
Oh, his response to me was very fulfilling:

Forget Grisoft, what about the other products that are ranked higher?

Why aren't you ranking yourself against the top products?

-sorry about the double posting.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on May 21, 2004, 02:20:22 AM
Oh, his response to me was very fulfilling:

Forget Grisoft, what about the other products that are ranked higher?

Why aren't you ranking yourself against the top products?

-sorry about the double posting.

Sorry, but I realy don't understand who are you talking to... why should I rank myself against those top products ? Not quite clear to me I must confess... Probably, that's just quote from someone's reply to your letter to them... I don't know... put that under quotes next time please, it will be much clearer...

My point was... when  they said avast is ugly, you were angry like we all were angry, but you didn't say to them that they are wrong about that... the truth is - avast! is not ugly, avast! is very, very "pretty"... let them find me one antivirus that has so much nice skins and what's most important, in the same time catches so many viruses... this product is top product ! It's efficiency, it's look and what's most important Alwil cares what their customers and users think about their products... I think those things puts avast! directly to the top... correct me if I'm wrong...
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: rosswilliammarie on May 21, 2004, 06:17:10 AM
 ;DI just got avast last week and have told a few more people about it. It s great. Had Norten 2003 and it crashed my puter  (windows Me)  all the time . Took it off and used A V G  It missed a lot of virus. I rate avast #1
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: bear020369 on May 21, 2004, 09:14:02 AM
Hi Everyone

I just wanted to add my two cents worth as well.  I just wanted to let everyone know that I have used 8 out of the 11 products (including Avast!) listed on that review page so I feel that I should have a fair idea on how they all rate against Avast!.  They are BitDefender, AVG, Norton, McAfee, PC-Cillin, , Etrust EZ Antivirus, Panda Antivirus (Platinum and Titanium) and finally Avast! Antivirus Pro.

Let me assure you all that NONE of them rate as good as Avast.  I have just about tried all the antivirus products out there and I have uninstalled every single one of them except for Avast.  The simple reason is the fact that avast inserts a note on all incoming and outgoing messages on whether the email is cleaned, the database file that is has used and the date that it was scanned/tested.  I know that AVG has this as well, but what has been mentioned on this thread earlier, AVG doesn't pick up anywhere as near viruses/trojans that avast does.

I  have Avast Pro as my antivirus, Sygate Personal Firewall Pro and the firewall that comes with XP as my firewall.  I also use Foxmail as my email client.  I can now finally say that I feel safe with these products whereas previously, I couldn't.  

Lastly, I would like to say a very big thankyou to the developers that put all their hard work into creating Avast HE and Pro.  You have made a terrific product that we can all be proud of.  It's a shame that not many others are aware of how good this antivirus product really is.  The majority of people normally go for the "big name" products like Norton, McAfee, Panda and AVG.

Also, would also like to thank everyone for their input with this forum.  I have had the need to ask for help in the past and a response has been quickly given, but I can't say the same thing to the support for Norton or McAfee.
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Fast on May 21, 2004, 10:13:49 AM
If you guys are interested in a serious review, please look here: http://agn-www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/vtc/agn_content_vtc.htm

All the other reviews are "coloured".

Fast
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: S.Z.Craftec on May 21, 2004, 11:55:56 AM
- Reply to bear020369 -

I  have Avast Pro as my antivirus, Sygate Personal Firewall Pro and the firewall that comes with XP as my firewall.  I also use Foxmail as my email client.  I can now finally say that I feel safe with these products whereas previously, I couldn't.  

Just one small remark... that's good that you finally can feel safe. It's not neccessary to have two firewalls activated, though. If you have hardware fireawall, then it's good thing to have software firewall too, but certainly not 2 software firewalls... it's almost same like you never want 2 antiviruses to run in the same time on your computer. Believe me, you will not be more protected, but the only thing is, you can make your system much more unstable using 2 firewalls in the same time... believe me, they can fight each other...

My advice: turn OFF Windows standard  firewall, and use your Sygate only, of course accompanied by avast! (Greatest antivirus in the world). Sygate is fantastic product, and also it's very light on system resources... believe me, it will give you enough protection that you safely can go and disable Windows firewall. Two software firewalls can give you just headache and troubles...

Thanks for reading this !

S.Z.C
Title: Re:Avast review rated #11
Post by: Kerim on May 21, 2004, 01:18:05 PM
As an anti-Virus,  Avast! 4 Pro  is MY #1.
I feel lucky that I heard about it while searching for an antivirus software in Yahoo!

Now, I recommend Avast! 4 (Home or Pro) to my friends that I do care for.  :)

Kerim