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Title: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Kees1958 on June 27, 2009, 10:20:33 PM
Any news yet,

It stays very quiet.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Lisandro on June 27, 2009, 11:26:34 PM
It's scheduled for late this year. Probably, October ;)
It will be preceded by a beta phase.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: DavidR on June 28, 2009, 12:35:32 AM
Any news yet,

It stays very quiet.

What's the rush, it will be ready when its ready, I can't see what everyone is in a flap about. I certainly don't want them to rus something out the door to meet any artificial schedule.

Keep monitoring these forums and you will see when the Beta build is released and that should hopefully mean the regular release isn't too far off.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: spg SCOTT on June 28, 2009, 12:58:21 AM
I agree with DavidR here,
Every other post is about when it is coming out, do people not use the search function anymore ???
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Mr.Agent on June 28, 2009, 01:37:55 AM
Any news yet,

It stays very quiet.

What's the rush, it will be ready when its ready, I can't see what everyone is in a flap about. I certainly don't want them to rus something out the door to meet any artificial schedule.

Keep monitoring these forums and you will see when the Beta build is released and that should hopefully mean the regular release isn't too far off.

+1
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Tarq57 on June 28, 2009, 05:19:04 AM
Since Avast 4.8 is working so well, I am in no rush for #5, although certainly a little interested in it.
I don't mind if it takes another year, if it needs to take that long. (Don't think it will, but I have seen the results of software rushed into existence too often.)
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 28, 2009, 07:37:42 AM
Any news yet,

It stays very quiet.

What's the rush, it will be ready when its ready, I can't see what everyone is in a flap about. I certainly don't want them to rus something out the door to meet any artificial schedule.

Keep monitoring these forums and you will see when the Beta build is released and that should hopefully mean the regular release isn't too far off.

+1

+2
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: scythe944 on June 28, 2009, 08:53:56 AM
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Any news yet,

It stays very quiet.

LOL.  At least they're not as bad as Blizzard Entertainment.  We could be waiting years for an update then.

It'll be soon, just hang on....
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: STONER on June 28, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
Any news yet,

It stays very quiet.

+1
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: alanrf on June 28, 2009, 10:12:37 AM
Maybe you can advise us, while waiting, what feature of avast 5 you now do not have that makes you impatient for the new release?

I assume it must be something more significant than "I just want it".
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: chetzZ on June 28, 2009, 11:31:56 AM
hi frnds well it would be cool if avast 5 is released this year as avast 4.8 doesnt use  heuristic  and i think with that avast will be a great security software:) well i use avast with malwarebyte pro and i think its very good coz malwarebyte catches virus avast miss!
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Tarq57 on June 28, 2009, 11:33:57 AM
Welcome to the forums, chetZ.
And tell me.
Exactly what is "heuristics"?
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: chetzZ on June 28, 2009, 11:41:38 AM
hey man u joking lol heuristic is the abiltility to detect unknown viruses welll i was jst saying that it will be cool i knw u will all tell me it will have lots of false  positive and so on bt prevention is better than cure;)
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Tarq57 on June 28, 2009, 11:44:21 AM
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hey man u joking
No, I mean it. Welcome to the forums.  :)

And how are "unknown viruses" detected using heuristics? What mechanism?
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: chetzZ on June 28, 2009, 11:53:49 AM
ok man no prob well im nt into coding bt i think it scan fr suspicious file or bad coding like exe hey man i was downloading a crack for tray skin a software which modifies ur windows time style welll avast didnt detect anything i patch it  when i click launch the software spyware detected in c program lol so i scanned the patch no virus found only when it modifies the exe thats a virus is found when u launch the software lol how come and yeah my operating system is tiny vista jst put it yesterday im someone who  kinda spend 18hr on pc kinda adict lol
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Tarq57 on June 28, 2009, 11:58:25 AM
Frankly, boasting of downloading a crack, and then expecting that your AV should protect you from it isn't the sort of thing most folk here are into.
Avast will help you protect yourself very nicely indeed.
No AV will protect you from yourself.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: chetzZ on June 28, 2009, 12:15:14 PM
no man u didnt get me well i  didnt say that avast shoul protect me lol i said it didnt detect it at first  well im someone who uses a lot of keygens and crack and well i dnt care abt reinstalling my os several time  sometime i even put the protection off to crack a software what i wanted to say that avast is  a good software and it was a granted a 99.3 detection in 2008 virus test i think and avira was the first bt in 2009 it was not awarded a good ranking in the test may b with the new version avast will be may b one  of the best security software with detection over 99.6 anywayz anywaz avast keep the good job going tc mate!
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: spg SCOTT on June 28, 2009, 12:26:34 PM
ChetzZ,

I can imagine that when (notice that I said when and not if) you get infected and ask for help, you may find that many people here will not even bother to help you because of your poor attitude to security.

Ther are many free and capable programs that you can use instead and sometime they can be even better than the paid for programs.

-Scott-
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: chetzZ on June 28, 2009, 12:30:17 PM
LOL
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Tarq57 on June 28, 2009, 12:31:16 PM
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no man u didnt get me well i  didnt say that avast shoul protect me lol
Oh, I actually understood you very well.
I was being kind. Kinda sarcastic.

It seems you didn't understand me, though.
Simply and nicely put, stop looking for cracked software/keygens, you leech. >:(
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: chetzZ on June 28, 2009, 12:34:57 PM
well man im jst joking be cool nowadays everyone like to test a new software dnt tell me u never use a pirated software any ways i jst wanted to say keep the good work going
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Tarq57 on June 28, 2009, 01:11:15 PM
Well, thanks for the good thoughts, but the fact is, I actually don't use any pirated software, and never knowingly have.
And I am sure there are a lot of folk just like me in that regard.
No need to.
I mean, what's the point?
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: cinchez on June 28, 2009, 01:23:41 PM
"i mean whats the point" by Tarq57^^

Umm..I think "they" want the paid version so badly, "they" try those cracks for their own benefit not knowing the consequences "they" might encounter in the future...

U know wat they say, The Pro versions r better the the Free ones...

But personally i dont get "them"....

As everybody know...the best things in life r "Free"^^

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: .: L' arc :. on June 28, 2009, 01:36:29 PM
well man im jst joking be cool nowadays everyone like to test a new software dnt tell me u never use a pirated software any ways i jst wanted to say keep the good work going

-= LOL ;D
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: mevcit on June 28, 2009, 06:00:48 PM
the coming out story of avast 5 ;D it must be having a hard time lolol
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: jadinolf on June 28, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
I would at least like to see what it looks like. :)
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Kees1958 on June 29, 2009, 12:09:28 AM
@Alanrf, come on, do I need to explain?

Have a look at the Windows Defender agents. That is a nicely setup list of vulnarable points to monitor. My ideal Avast standard module would have those options (now it only has on exection and read and write check).  Checking every execution is not a sophisticated way of dealing with the blacklist.

When a programs registers itself, makes permanent changes on Vista/Windows 7 virtualised areas (file + reg), loads a driver, accesses disk, keyboard, memory directly or tries to intrude a kernel object, I would like Avast to check its black list data base. I would also like to tell the behavior 'monitor' to apply different sensitivity levels for different age patterns (like new programs < 1 day = high, between a day and a two weeks = medium, older than two weeks = low)


When malware behaviour patterns are recoginised, profile the executable (when it is not in the black list) and send it to Avast server for analysis. This to shorten the time between launch of zero-day malware and first recognistion of it in the wild.

Getting earlier malware samples from around the world, increases the effectivity of Avast, reduces time Avast professionals are now scanning for it and reduces the time between malware launch and recognition.

Regards Kees (by the way the same one as from wilders)
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: polonus on June 29, 2009, 12:41:25 AM
Ha die Kees1958,

Yes this is the newer av approach, however already some time with us, malware analyzing mode. I think in the light of the newer developments and online threats the thing that should be brought in is virtualization, so you can throw the application after the malware or vice versa and get rid of the infection completely. This even seems effective to thward a very destructive file infector like vitro, for which av at the mo (for XP at least) is offering no remedy other then f-disk- re-format and re-install.
Virtualization is a good policy for users that do not know how to confgure their OS and apps properly to be protected and use a special range of protection software. Real experts that aplly safe hex on an O.S. with only user rights and good in-browser protection, e.g. fx with NS and RP etc. hardly need resident AV or FW software, but I would not recommend this for the average user that does not know how to secure themselves. But virtualization and in the cloud scanning will be the future to keep malcode at bay,

groetjes van,

polonus

Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Lex on June 29, 2009, 09:49:53 AM
avast needs not only virtualisation as checks in virtual environments are easily recognized by malware code and it hides its malware features. avast also needs behavioral analysis in real environment. These two technologies are already implemented in BitDefender 2010 for example.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: alanrf on June 29, 2009, 10:01:20 AM
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@Alanrf, come on, do I need to explain?

Well, yes and you did and many thanks for your input. 

I am just an avast user like you so I will be glad to see how much of your wish list is actually included in avast 5 when we see it.   If the avast team agree with you it will be there.  I strongly suspect that folks posting wish list items for the avast 5 release right now are just lucky or will be disappointed. 

Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: DavidR on June 29, 2009, 03:35:19 PM
avast needs not only virtualisation as checks in virtual environments are easily recognized by malware code and it hides its malware features. avast also needs behavioral analysis in real environment. These two technologies are already implemented in BitDefender 2010 for example.

Well avast 5 doesn't 'need' behavioural analysis, as it is already reported as being part of avast 5
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: smage on June 29, 2009, 08:39:49 PM
There is no need to hurry and release a buggy program, let the team takes its time and deliver a quality product.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: gery on June 29, 2009, 08:58:20 PM
yes there is no need to hurry but i think people are getting a little frustrated because there is no set time.
personally would love to know when the new AVAST  might be out
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Mr.Agent on June 30, 2009, 12:55:54 AM
More its take time more its can be good and less bug. So you want a security suite buggy or a great 1 ? I think a great 1. Then you should wait. If needed count the day.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Texas-Hansen on June 30, 2009, 04:03:08 AM
I think some forum members frustration with discussions about Avast 5 stems from the fact that the discussions on the forum about Avast 5 go back to about a year or more ago and, IIRC, there were some posts from the insiders that indicated a Fall release and promises of some screen shots that did not come about. Given that they've been cooking Avast 5 for over a year and the competition is developing products with more sophisticated detection methods, I don't think it's unreasonable that customers expect Avast to get it done. It's been s long time coming. At the same time, I respect Avast for making sure the product is fully cooked before releasing it publically.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Giraffe on June 30, 2009, 08:56:18 AM
Yes, better cooked than half-baked and causing trouble like another AV programme recently.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: smage on June 30, 2009, 04:51:47 PM
Whatever they make, they better make it good given that Microsoft is now offering a full AV for free.
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Conogo on June 30, 2009, 05:20:34 PM
Yes, better cooked than half-baked and causing trouble like another AV programme recently.

Another AV programme ...  ;D Any hint on which AV ? ;)
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Tarq57 on June 30, 2009, 10:49:48 PM
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Another AV programme ...  Grin Any hint on which AV ?
I would have thought anybody who had a friend who's mum's sister knew someone who had a brother who once had the product hinted at installed on their computer would have known the answer to that.

Here's a hint: Starts early in the alphabet. Comes from Europe. Not Avira.
(As evidenced by thousands of posts on help forums.)
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Giraffe on June 30, 2009, 11:30:23 PM
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Another AV programme ...  Grin Any hint on which AV ?
I would have thought anybody who had a friend who's mum's sister knew someone who had a brother who once had the product hinted at installed on their computer would have known the answer to that.

Here's a hint: Starts early in the alphabet. Comes from Europe. Not Avira.
(As evidenced by thousands of posts on help forums.)

Very Good  ;)
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Conogo on July 01, 2009, 03:26:40 AM
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Another AV programme ...  Grin Any hint on which AV ?
Here's a hint: Starts early in the alphabet. Comes from Europe. Not Avira.
(As evidenced by thousands of posts on help forums.)

Is it a privately-held Czech company formed in 1991.  ;D
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: igor on July 01, 2009, 11:24:14 PM
Well, I'm not sure how much "Czech" it still is...
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: Lisandro on July 02, 2009, 01:11:45 AM
What do you mean?
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: hyjaxltd on July 05, 2009, 08:09:23 PM
I would have thought anybody who had a friend who's mum's sister knew someone who had a brother who once had the product hinted at installed on their computer would have known the answer to that.

Here's a hint: Starts early in the alphabet. Comes from Europe. Not Avira.
(As evidenced by thousands of posts on help forums.)

...ohhh, code...my favorite...

so lets see that would be;

...my auntie...
    ...gee...
       ..um..mmm...?   :o

Man, thats a tough one...

I give up your really good at this, maybe I'll google it since I didnt hear the real deal...an oh yeah,..as one who runs his 60+ year old momma's PC from across the country I just gotta say I cant wait to go full Avast for security with Avast5...the only things Id like to see is better pricing on multiple licensing...like 3 for the price of one ...I would probably buy the paid version, I dunnno though, Avast Home is pretty kick a$$!!!  I'll test it for ya though...gimmie a beta..or a charlie...hell gimmie a damn umbrella in one like what I hear Avast 6 is supposed to be finally!!!

Patiently...just eager as a kid waitin for prom...waiting ;)
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: .: L' arc :. on July 06, 2009, 03:27:05 PM
Well, I'm not sure how much "Czech" it still is...


-= Another "what do you mean..?" here..
Title: Re: The fameous Avast V5 will it ever come? sighh
Post by: igor on July 06, 2009, 03:37:46 PM
The reference was to Conogo's post - who talked about an undisclosed AV company... ;)

I don't know their property relations, but they did have quite some foreign investements... so I was just saying that "Czech company" might be questionable... but it's really just a guess, without necessary background :)