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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: sham1313 on July 01, 2009, 11:46:11 PM
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I need to learn how to do a back up the right way. the only way that I have done it is copy what I want saved on a disk witch I am sure I am not saving all I need if I had to restore it completely. I do have what is called a flash voyager witch hold some of a back up but not all of it. I have tried a couple of times by clicking on back up and restore files and I want to save it to a disk but it only wants to save it to my F drive witch is my flash voyager. I am not able to fine out how to put it on a disk. can some one help me with that please.
thanks Sharon ;D
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What backup program are you using and what's your operating system ???
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Click Mozy in my signature and you'll be able to do 2,2Gb of free online backup ;)
Do you want to make a full disk backup (partition backup) or files backup?
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Thank for the suggestion Tech and sorry guy for be off topic. If i need a backup i will try to look at your signature :)
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thank you i will be doing it soon as I can. this computer is a littlr over 1 year old and is an HP windows vista. also I did not know there was different types of backup's i just thought you either did just a backup or a re store. i was just wantting a back up not kept on the computer but on a disk. the computer does not have enought room to do a full back up any way.
thanks Sharon
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Flash Voyager (http://www.corsair.com/products/voyager/default.aspx) (if this is the one) is a usb stick with up to 64Gb of storage, for the big one.
It's not really a backup program; more a medium for storing files etc.
The medium you use for a full backup depends on how full your disk is; that is, how many Gb of information need to be backed up.
Several backup programs exist. These can make images of your entire OS, and using them is somewhat like using system restore.
They include the popular Acronis, Norton GoBack, and Macrium Reflect (http://www.macrium.com/) (free version available.)
The program needs to be installed. Once installed, you will need an external medium large enough to store the backup on. Typically this would be an external hard drive. A 64G flash drive would be sufficient for some systems.
Then the help files should be consulted, and the program set to make the backup, how you want, and where you want.
On my computer making a full disk image in this fashion, on to a 500G hard drive, takes about 30 minutes.
(Haven't had to test the restore function so far.)
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PS, here's the link to the free version of Macrium (http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp)
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I have a few things to reread and then try to do a correct backup. I will let ya all know.
thanks Sharon
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:) before my husband get on this evening I am going to have this post copy pasted on a note pad for my husband to read because he was told it was big enough to hold most any body's back up.
thanks Sharon
Flash Voyager (http://www.corsair.com/products/voyager/default.aspx) (if this is the one) is a usb stick with up to 64Gb of storage, for the big one.
It's not really a backup program; more a medium for storing files etc.
The medium you use for a full backup depends on how full your disk is; that is, how many Gb of information need to be backed up.
Several backup programs exist. These can make images of your entire OS, and using them is somewhat like using system restore.
They include the popular Acronis, Norton GoBack, and Macrium Reflect (http://www.macrium.com/) (free version available.)
The program needs to be installed. Once installed, you will need an external medium large enough to store the backup on. Typically this would be an external hard drive. A 64G flash drive would be sufficient for some systems.
Then the help files should be consulted, and the program set to make the backup, how you want, and where you want.
On my computer making a full disk image in this fashion, on to a 500G hard drive, takes about 30 minutes.
(Haven't had to test the restore function so far.)
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Well, it might be.
But there isn't enough information to know.
The required information would be: What size is the flash drive, and what is the total size of the files you want to back up?
And what type of backup do you want?
Just selected files/pictures etc, or an image of the entire disk?
(You can probably answer these questions yourself. If not, happy to help.)
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in about a hour or 2 I will have more time and will pull the guide up and and look because I don't recall right now. i have been just copy on a disk extra stuff that dont have room for on the flash voyager.
thanks Sharon
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in one of the posts above said to click Mozy in there signature line when I did I got this.
This site is using an outdated encryption method which is no longer classified as secure. It cannot sufficiently protect sensitive data. Do you wish to continue?
then I was givin this URL http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp and it has a download. I am confusied do I download this and store the full backup on the internet. my husband would not like that idea. or am I total wrong on how to do the backup.
thanks Sharon
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The site is perfectly ok. There is nothing wrong with encryption used by Mozy... That is a wrong information.
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my opera browser does that message on a few sites i have tried to view. i am still not sure if i download from mozy or the other URL i was sent if it is suppose to save it all on the internet or what. i am wanting to save it on disk. i still have a lot of reading and well go back and reread both URLs and try to figure it out.
thanks Sharon
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in one of the posts above said to click Mozy in there signature line when I did I got this.
This site is using an outdated encryption method which is no longer classified as secure. It cannot sufficiently protect sensitive data. Do you wish to continue?
then I was givin this URL http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp and it has a download. I am confusied do I download this and store the full backup on the internet. my husband would not like that idea. or am I total wrong on how to do the backup.
thanks Sharon
Don't mix up the two methods. Mozy free is an online storage facility. Macrium reflect is a program that allows you to back up files, folders, data, or an entire disk image to an external media, such as an external hard drive.
No reason why you shouldn't use both, if you have certain files on the computer that you would like backed up in more than one location.
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so I was right it is all saved on the internet I need to fine the right words to explane to my husband the right way that the information on that site will be to where hacker can't get it. both of us have had bad experience with some one was getting into his account and removing small amount from his account at a time. we don't have much but still he was getting into his account and removing $5.00 $10.00 ever once in a while. mike is good in math and new he should have a certain amount. Mike with drew some money to where he should have had at least 15.00 in the bank but he was over drawn bye 10.00. then there was mine they but 125.00 of porn on my credit card. that one was caught and i did press charges. now we only have mike account threw paypal and my credit card thew paypal.
I have to reread each pg a few more times to make sure I do every the right way it takes a while for me to retain what iI read. the reading most of the time is easy but I have trouble remembering thing in order and doing each part {won't say any more there}. I have certain important things I need to do 1st but I am sure by the end of the day I can report back and tell you how and what I have done.
thanks Sharon
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I won't mix them up that is one reason why I have to do all the rereading and all the extra things i do before i send most post. I do one more time want to thank every one.
Sharon
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some time i try to go fast i miss someting and i missed this yes i would like to do a disk backup.
Macrium Reflect Free now that I have red alot this one is what i will try. my husband wants the computer and in the evening is the only time he can be on. next when i can i will do
Macrium Reflect Free
thanks to every
thanks Sharon
Click Mozy in my signature and you'll be able to do 2,2Gb of free online backup ;)
Do you want to make a full disk backup (partition backup) or files backup?
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Just make sure that you have a medium (external HD or DVDs) with enough capacity to store what you backup.
There is no reason why you shouldn't also backup >2G of important files/pics etc to Mozy, if you want. Just so long as you know they ae two completely different processes.
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create a backup image of an entire disk or selected partition{s}
if i mark local hard disk
i get cannot write 2D:/
THIS DESTINATION IS INCLUDED ON THE BACK!
if i mark network is says browse for network folder
it wants me to name the use ID as the file name, but that part that is grey and you cannot mark there what do i go please?
i am not sure when i can come back and check for replies
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You're talking about making a backup with Macrium?
And I guess you are at the point where it says " Choose a local directory, network, or removable drive to contain the backup image".
If so,
What are you trying to backup the image to? Have you plugged an external drive or DVD in? If so, browse to it.
If not, you need to.
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I have a DVD player in the computer. i can watch any DvD i put in the computer. so it should already have what it needs. it plays both dvd and cd and that part is in a grey area and can't click on it. i am also wanting to put a backup on a disk. got to run will be back in the morning i am right at the point you thick i am
thanks Sharon
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If you right click on the "my computer" icon on the desktop, and click either "open" or "explore", is the DVD/CD drive visible?
Should be similar in appearance to my screenshot. The names, and possibly the locations, will differ.
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I have a DVD player in the computer. i can watch any DvD i put in the computer. so it should already have what it needs.
If you intend to use DVD's to back up your System then you need to make sure your DVD is capable of writing to a DVD.
Reading alone will not help you when it comes to making a back-up.
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morning to you Targ and every one els. or i should;g say good night to some like targ.
there a little bit of difference to start off with, just enough to confused me some times. I use to click on my computer just like you to start with. now I have to go to start then click on computer. after that if I put a blank disk in and click autoplay and the menu comes up and you can click on create disk or edit image and it will open up and you will see a blue square box that Say's cyberlink DVD suite Deluxe it will have 7 icons under those words. one of then being copy and backup under that you will see watch a DVD. I am not sure if I have to use that to start the backup or not. under that you can click on watch a DVD.
i am not sure when you say click either "open" or "explore", is the DVD/CD drive visible?
where I put the DVD or CD has to be visible maybe you might be talking about the little blue box that is visible. if your not talking about that I am not sure what you are talking about. in the other post you can read what it says about where I am at after when i can click on macrium refelct.
thanks Sharon
If you right click on the "my computer" icon on the desktop, and click either "open" or "explore", is the DVD/CD drive visible?
Should be similar in appearance to my screenshot. The names, and possibly the locations, will differ.
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I am not sure how to fine this out can you explane how? I think you are using window 7 if I remember right. i am using windows vista on a HP computer.
Thanks Sharon
I have a DVD player in the computer. i can watch any DvD i put in the computer. so it should already have what it needs.
If you intend to use DVD's to back up your System then you need to make sure your DVD is capable of writing to a DVD.
Reading alone will not help you when it comes to making a back-up.
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I use all windows operating systems between the various systems it use and maintain.
The type of system doesn't matter.
If your DVD can't write to a DVD then you can't use it as a back up tool because you can't burn DVD's with a DVD READER.
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I am not sure how to fine this out can you explane how? I think you are using window 7 if I remember right. i am using windows vista on a HP computer.
Thanks Sharon
I have a DVD player in the computer. i can watch any DvD i put in the computer. so it should already have what it needs.
If you intend to use DVD's to back up your System then you need to make sure your DVD is capable of writing to a DVD.
Reading alone will not help you when it comes to making a back-up.
Most Optical drives have some indication on the front of the DVD Drive, mine has DVD RW (read Write) on the front of the loading tray.
If you use My Computer, View System Information, Device Manager, then find the DVD/CD-ROM Drives and expand that it too should say what the drive type is, see image. Now that is for XP Pro, you will have to find the same/equivalent in Vista.
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maybe mine is not setup to do this kind of backup because looking at Device Manager it has a disk drives witch has the Corsair Flash voyager USB Device and WDCWD12OOBEVS-60UST0ATA Device. it has nothing that says DVD on it. all I really wanted to do to start with was to learn how to do a backup on a disk or two. because all I have been doing is copying certain things from the computer to a disk not knowing really if I got all I needed or not. thanks every one for the help so far at least i am still learning some thing.
Sharon
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What does it say at the front of the drive, where you put the disk in?
The set of numbers/letters suggest that your CD/DVD drive is by Western Digital.
Should be on the computer spec sheet/pamphlet somewhere, if you kept it.
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I'd suggest an external USB or Firewire Harddrive, then use Windows Vista's built-in backup program to schedule backups. It's free, and very simple to use. The only problem is that you won't be able to backup exe files and other things that are self-executing. However, documents and everything can be saved. Also, entire disk images can be saved as well, so you can restore the entire PC back to how it was when the backup was ran.
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there is a little I cannot see even with my glasses and a magnifying glass. it is hard to see but the bigger letter I will write. a big R W word next to it is DISK then DVD under the big RW is little litter dvd r w under the big DVD is a little dvd. then under the last ones is rewriteable muttl recc the rest of that word I cant see if you need that too. I will see if I can read it in the morning I think there is just a few letters I cannot see. I cannot get the computer box down tonight to see any of the paper work in the morning I can get that to.
I hope what i just gave you help some. that little print i don't know how any one see that it is the tinyies i have ever seen.
till tomorrow
thanks Sharon
What does it say at the front of the drive, where you put the disk in?
The set of numbers/letters suggest that your CD/DVD drive is by Western Digital.
Should be on the computer spec sheet/pamphlet somewhere, if you kept it.
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where would i fine the USB or firewire harddrive i don't have the manual for this computer but i do have the book on a disk
i will look threw nit tomorrow too.
thanks Sharon
I'd suggest an external USB or Firewire Harddrive, then use Windows Vista's built-in backup program to schedule backups. It's free, and very simple to use. The only problem is that you won't be able to backup exe files and other things that are self-executing. However, documents and everything can be saved. Also, entire disk images can be saved as well, so you can restore the entire PC back to how it was when the backup was ran.
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It sounds from the bits you've been able to see as if that is a read/write dvd drive.
The USB drive is any USB port on your computer.
Did you try opening "my computer" to view, as per my picture? What is there?
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then under the last ones is rewriteable muttl recc the rest of that word I cant see
Are you looking at the computer or the DVD's?
This sounds more like a description of a rewritable DVD not the description of the actual Player.
where would i fine the USB or firewire harddrive
You can purchase them in any store that carries computer equipment.
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I not sure what is going on here yesterday when I went to computer after I click I saw only 3 things I thought there there should be 4 things there but all I saw was local disk HP (c) HP recovery (D) and corsair (F). this morning I see one more DVD RW Drive (E). remember I have windows vista I don't click on my computer I have to go to go to start then click on computer.I look in the box for the paper work and done was there of corse mike thinks i put it some where and i think he has it on the back porche where bhe keeps every think like that at. i will look at the user guide in a few min
thanks Sharon
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DVD RW Drive (E)
DVD Read/Write (Drive E)
Now all you need is to buy some Blank DVD's and start doing your backup using one of
the programs suggested to you.
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I already have blank DVD
thanks to every one and I should have look at the user manual before because I found this. just one more question why yesterday was the E drive not there but today it is? .
I red below and it say you have to have a certin kind of disk.
on my disks it's 120min video 4.GB data one the other side of disk it say's DVD-R 1-16 speed do I need to tell every one what is wrote all around the disk? I sure hope this is the kind of disk I need. I said just one more question i was wrong i lost count of how many i just asked every one. one quetion you do not need to answer i reread and yes I do have the right kind of disk.
8 Backup and recovery
Recovering system information
Tools provided by the operating system and Recovery Manager software are designed to help you with
the following tasks for safeguarding your information and restoring it in case of a system failure:
● Backing up your information regularly to protect your important system files.
● Making a set of recovery discs (Recovery Manager software feature). Recovery discs are used to
start up (boot) your computer and restore the operating system and software programs to factory
settings in case of system failure or instability.
● Creating system restore points (operating system feature). System restore points allow you to reverse
undesirable changes to your computer by restoring the computer to an earlier state.
● Recovering a program or driver (Recovery Manager software feature). This feature helps you reinstall
a program or driver without performing a full system recovery.
● Performing a full system recovery (Recovery Manager software feature). With Recovery Manager,
you can recover your full factory image if you experience system failure or instability. Recovery
Manager works from a dedicated recovery partition on the hard drive or from recovery discs you
create.
Creating recovery discs
After setting up the computer for the first time, be sure to create a set of recovery discs of the full factory
image. The recovery discs are used to start up (boot) the computer and recover the operating system and
software to factory settings in case of system instability or failure.
NOTE: Handle these discs carefully and keep them in a safe place. The software allows the creation of
only one set of recovery discs.
Note the following guidelines before creating recovery discs:
● Use any of the following types of discs: CD-R, DVD+R, DVD+R DL, DVD-R or DVD-R DL (purchased
separately). The discs you use will depend on the type of optical drive installed in your computer.
Because DVDs store more information than CDs, DVDs and DVDs with double-layer (DL) support
reduce the number of discs required.
NOTE: Read-write discs, such as CD-RW, DVD+RW, and DVD-RW, are not compatible with the
Recovery Manager software.
: The computer must be connected to AC power during this process.
Only one set of recovery discs can be created per computer.
Recovering system information 131} another question it says one time recovery disk I guess that has nothing to do with backing it up. i guss i should do that to but why will it only let you make one? if i make a mistake doing it the 1st time can't try doing it again.
thanks Sharon
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Recovery CD's are not the same as a system backup.
Recovery CD's are used to restore the system to the way it was when you first received it from the manufacturer.
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it said backup and Recovery disk that is what had me fooled
thanks Sharon
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I am not sure if this problem as any or if it is all because of the backup I was trying to do. when I 1st started the backup and I was sure it was putting the 1st backup on a disk because it had to format the disk before it started doing the backup. then it got to the part that it was going to take 2 or 3 hr's to do. I left the computer to do its things. I set in my chair. i had not been getting much sleep and so that is what happen. I was going to check it in an hour but I was out cold. mike came in and wanted to check his mail quick before he had to get back to work. he notice I was doing some thing and saw IT had 100% in stead of hitting finished or what ever should have been click them he closed Every thing I had open by clicking the x then it frozed and would not do any thing. i told him what i was doing and i don't know any more then that. i had him click ctrl alt delete a few times to try to get task manager and close the non responding program that way. could not do it. sense there was no other way. i had him try to shut it off by just holding down the on off key. it would not do that. so i tried hitting ctrl alt delete a few times nothing happen i tried the esc witch has never worked for me then i held the on off key for about 30 sec and it went off mike waited 5 min then turn it on it got to the desktop and he went to his ebay it would do nothing so he shut it down the right way waited turn back on and went to a black screen with the little -in the left hand corner blinking and would not do any more. we remember in the 1st week we had the computer about a week and it went to the black screen and 30 min it was still there and hp had mike unplug take the battery out Wait then put the battery back in and now it is working.
i check there is nothing on the disk. mike said that it said it was 100% complete so i don't understand why there is nothing on the disk. a few people here know there has been a little some thing with the computer because i had told them on the nights we shut the computer off at night it would take longer and longer to come all the way back on and a couple of times it had gone to the black screen before. then i tried ctrl alt delete and then click task manager click all the program closed threw it and re start the computer and it work but now this happen i am not sure if thy have any thing to do with each other. any one know whats going on?
thanks Sharon
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while I was waiteing for a reply I thought i try to do another backup so I put a disk in and i could not recall how to start. if i click create a backup image of the entire disk or selected partition(s) when i put the blank disk in it where i want to click in is a grey area witch is clicking to do the backup on a disk.
if i click on auto reply on the E drive you have four to choose from burn a dvd data disk, burn files to disk, burn a dvd video disk and create disk or edit image. i don't remember witch to do. i know you have to fomatt the disk but forgot how to do it.
thanks Sharon
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Right. A picture is worth a thousand words. (Hint. Learn to make screenshots.)
Here are 4 pictures showing the steps using Macrium reflect.
Disregard this if you are using the Vista backup utility. Since you didn't say what you were using, I can only guess that this might be useful.
Picture 1: Click at the top right, "disk image", the wizard (pictured centre) will open, click "next.
Picture 2: Shows in this case my two partitions on the same disk. (This configuration varies, computer to computer). I have inserted a tick into both boxes.
Picture 3: Have clicked on "CD/DVD Burner", in order to select that as the backup destination. (This would not work in my case, as the size of the backup exceeds the size of a DVD, but it is to give an idea how to locate where to go.
Picture 4: Self explanatory. Insert a disk. Press OK.
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Pic 2 and 3 if it will fit.
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Pic 4
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I'd suggest an external USB or Firewire Harddrive, then use Windows Vista's built-in backup program to schedule backups. It's free, and very simple to use. The only problem is that you won't be able to backup exe files and other things that are self-executing. However, documents and everything can be saved. Also, entire disk images can be saved as well, so you can restore the entire PC back to how it was when the backup was ran.
You are absolutely correct but should probably also mention that you CANNOT create system images with Vista's built in tool if you are running one of the Vista HOME versions. It is only available with Ultimate, Business and Enterprise versions. :)
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i am not sure external USB or Firewire Harddrive is that like and old zip drive. my sister Iva and newphew marshall witch I have not seen in years is her for a coupe of days and maybe marshall can help wit this. Idid not know making a backup on disk would be so hard.
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i am not sure external USB or Firewire Harddrive is that like and old zip drive. my sister Iva and newphew marshall are here witch I have not seen in years.they are here for a coupe of days and maybe marshall can help with this. I did not know making a backup on disks would be so hard. I do thank you for your help.
Sharon
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i do i did not fine that to click. I may wait a day before I try again
thanks for all your help;
Sharon
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I am so mad at myself. I had this full post type out I was just adding a big smile at the end and I not sure what I did wrong, but when I added just one smile the post disappeared and the smile symbols of the smile was there but the post was gone. all that was there was the smile symblem. I tried right clicking to click undo and that word was in a grey aera. so I could not click there. that is why most times I write it down on a note pad 1st then copy paste it here. I hope I can write this post as will as I did the 1st one.
let see now. what I said was this but first I will show you what I copy pasted of my about my F drive.
my F: drive
used space 8.031.277.056 bytes 7.47 GB
Free space 6.053,888 bytes 5.77 MB
capacty 8,037,330,944bytes
http://www.corsair.com/products/voyager/default.aspx
now then I think my husband wants to buy some thing bigger like this flash voyager, but not A USB external. what do you think about that? before my sister and nephew go back to Portland Oregon I will know the best easy way to do a prober backup on this HP windows vista. my sister works at the collage there and Say's there teg there will not even let windows vista get tried there at work. they were going to wait till the real version of windows 7 comes out before the change from windows XP. she as did a little on my computer and says she knows why I prefer any of the other windows that I have used. I did have more then this wrote the 1st time, but think I remember the best part of what I wrote. I do want to thank you all for caring and helping me and the rest of that need your help with out you most of us would be lost and not having are computers working or how not to loose all we got on our computers.
thanks Sharon
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If you had the text highlighted (selected) then adding the smiley could over type the selected text. If something like this happens in the future press the Ctrl and Z keys, this is an undo command this undoes the last action and may work. It isn't infallible and you may lose a little of what you did but generally all of what you did.
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my sister before she and my nephew went back to oregon she said she remember she had a friend that was using vista and there was a special program for vista to make a backup and totally restore she could not recall the name, but well talk to her friend after her vac. is over and email me as soon as she can with the information. when she does I will come back here and let every knowl what it is and how I had to do it. I still thank every one for there help. Sharon
I'd suggest an external USB or Firewire Harddrive, then use Windows Vista's built-in backup program to schedule backups. It's free, and very simple to use. The only problem is that you won't be able to backup exe files and other things that are self-executing. However, documents and everything can be saved. Also, entire disk images can be saved as well, so you can restore the entire PC back to how it was when the backup was ran.
You are absolutely correct but should probably also mention that you CANNOT create system images with Vista's built in tool if you are running one of the Vista HOME versions. It is only available with Ultimate, Business and Enterprise versions. :)