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Title: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Shiw Liang on August 01, 2009, 02:10:17 PM
I've downloaded free Pc Checkup and I have defrag my hard disk with it!My system and scan is working more quickly now!But why does the software which defrag my pc in accessories doesn't speed up my pc?
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Lisandro on August 01, 2009, 02:23:58 PM
I can see two scenarios:
1. Built-in Windows defrag isn't as intense as 3rd party ones.
2. Just a sensation of speed increase and not a real speed gain.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Shiw Liang on August 01, 2009, 02:26:53 PM
First it analyse
Then I think it free space
I don't know then
the fifth one is defrag
and the six is optimise!
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: cinchez on August 01, 2009, 02:28:59 PM
Defragmenting files as often as possible is a great way of maintaining the PC's performance^^

Smart Defrag is my choice anyway^^

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Omid Farhang on August 01, 2009, 02:35:35 PM
I use Auslogics BoostSpeed 4 http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/boost-speed to defragment hard driver and registry, to cleanup hard drive and fix registry problem, to tweak windows and and and...

I've used many program to do these and this one is best well program software that I've ever used. but it's not freeware
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: nmb on August 01, 2009, 02:36:03 PM
I use defraggler and ccleaner.

deraggler as soon as i install something

and ccleaner every now and then.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Black3agl3 on August 01, 2009, 02:36:39 PM
hmmm...
I've downloaded free Pc Checkup and I have defrag my hard disk with it!My system and scan is working more quickly now!
coulda also use Auslogics defragmenter....
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: .: L' arc :. on August 01, 2009, 03:06:44 PM
 Some of the best ways to speed up a scan without having to upgrade any hardware is by:

 (1) As stated above, defragging.

 (2) Clearing all temporary files. This will reduce the number of files to scan.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Shiw Liang on August 01, 2009, 03:10:51 PM
Yeah you are entirely right but if I clean all the errors will the scan be quicker?
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Omid Farhang on August 01, 2009, 03:13:31 PM
Some of the best ways to speed up a scan without having to upgrade any hardware is by:

 (1) As stated above, defragging.

 (2) Clearing all temporary files. This will reduce the number of files to scan.

may I add some too?!!

3. Disabling those windows services which is not needed (there are a lot of!)

4. choose stand-alone program instead of programs which has alot of background services.

5. use less programs in windows startup. run programs manually after windows boot time.

6. use latest version of updates hardware drivers.

7. keep computer/laptop bios up to date.

8. use cheap things to speed computer. for example windows readyboost is one of them that works with normal flash drives.

9. use tiny program when there are instead of using heavy program in computer.

 and a lot of other...

Yeah you are entirely right but if I clean all the errors will the scan be quicker?
sometimes it can help, but you should review every key that you are removing, because sometimes they cause problem more than what they fix.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: .: L' arc :. on August 01, 2009, 03:15:41 PM
Some of the best ways to speed up a scan without having to upgrade any hardware is by:

 (1) As stated above, defragging.

 (2) Clearing all temporary files. This will reduce the number of files to scan.

may I add some too?!!

3. Disabling those windows services which is not needed (there are a lot of!)

4. choose stand-alone program instead of programs which has alot of background services.

5. use less programs in windows startup. run programs manually after windows boot time.

6. use latest version of updates hardware drivers.

7. keep computer/laptop bios up to date.

8. use cheap things to speed computer. for example windows readyboost is one of them that works with normal flash drives.

9. use tiny program when there are instead of using heavy program in computer.

 and a lot of other...

 And yes, a whole lot more. You love typing huh? I am jealous with your typing speed.  ;D

Yeah you are entirely right but if I clean all the errors will the scan be quicker?

 "Errors" you mean? Well for sure cleaning them would help, errors are bottlenecks.

 Windows Disk Check Utility can help eliminate / correct some errors in your PC.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Omid Farhang on August 01, 2009, 03:18:54 PM

 And yes, a whole lot more. You love typing huh? I am jealous with your typing speed.  ;D

Yeah you are entirely right but if I clean all the errors will the scan be quicker?

 "Errors" you mean? Well for sure cleaning them would help, errors are bottlenecks.

 Windows Disk Check Utility can help eliminate / correct some errors in your PC.

Yes, I love it, I type in computer more than speaking in real world!!

and I think he mean fix errors in registry, "invalid keys in registry"
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Shiw Liang on August 01, 2009, 03:21:32 PM
Yeah but I heard that if some entries are also deleted your computer will have great trouble!
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: cinchez on August 01, 2009, 03:22:59 PM
Registry eh...U can try Glary Utilities^^

It has lots of useful gadgets such as a cleaner, registry defraggler, and cleaner...and muc much more^^(only more or less 5MB)^^

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Omid Farhang on August 01, 2009, 03:25:01 PM
Yeah but I heard that if some entries are also deleted your computer will have great trouble!
it's why I say you SHOULD take care what you are doing during clean up and fixing registry keys.
always have a backup from your registry before doing anything to your registry. don't use un-trusted programs to clean up it. defragment/compact it!
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: .: L' arc :. on August 01, 2009, 03:26:49 PM
 CCLeaner (http://download.cnet.com/ccleaner/) has a good registry optimizer. Light & fast.

 What I can't recommend is IObit's Advanced System Care's Registry Scanner, modifies entries that are pretty sensitive.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: DavidR on August 01, 2009, 06:07:22 PM
I can see two scenarios:
1. Built-in Windows defrag isn't as intense as 3rd party ones.
<snip>

The Windows defrag isn't that bad actually, having defragged with windows, check with some other defrag tools and you won't find any fragments. I also have Power Defragmenter, DeFraggler and JKDefrag.

These confirm the windows defrag does what it says on the tin, whilst the last two have many more bells and whistles and options selective defragmenting, moving files to optimise their loading, leaving some space at the start of a partition, etc. etc. All of these are fine, but over an above a simple defrag which windows defrag does fine.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Black3agl3 on August 01, 2009, 06:13:23 PM
I have once tried Windows defragmenter... It seems to take much more time...
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: nmb on August 01, 2009, 07:15:06 PM
Defragmenters other than windows defragmenters generally defragment only the fragmented files but windows defragmenter not only defragements the files but also put the files continuously in the sense no free spaces between files so it takes much time.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Black3agl3 on August 01, 2009, 07:17:21 PM
so, windows defragmenter does its job better?
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: DavidR on August 01, 2009, 07:51:59 PM
Defragmenters other than windows defragmenters generally defragment only the fragmented files but windows defragmenter not only defragements the files but also put the files continuously in the sense no free spaces between files so it takes much time.

That isn't entirely correct as when I defrag partitions, as you get a before and after graphical representation of the partition and you will frequently see gaps in the partition, so no contiguous sorting on mine by default on XP Pro.

For me the windows defrag is very quick, but I have a good CPU enough RAM, a fast SATA 2 HDD which is NTFS file format.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: nmb on August 01, 2009, 08:03:18 PM
well for me, if i use windows defragmenter and defragment the drive and analyse the disk using defraggler it doesnt give me any spaces .. that is it'll be continuously blue.(to indicate)
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Lisandro on August 01, 2009, 08:16:36 PM
Defragmenters other than windows defragmenters generally defragment only the fragmented files but windows defragmenter not only defragements the files but also put the files continuously in the sense no free spaces between files so it takes much time.
That isn't entirely correct as when I defrag partitions, as you get a before and after graphical representation of the partition and you will frequently see gaps in the partition, so no contiguous sorting on mine by default on XP Pro.
+1
Besides, there are 3rd party ones that not only defragment but reorganize and compact.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: nmb on August 01, 2009, 08:23:11 PM
Defragmenters other than windows defragmenters generally defragment only the fragmented files but windows defragmenter not only defragements the files but also put the files continuously in the sense no free spaces between files so it takes much time.

well i probably didnt get the right words to post then. now tech gave me those right words.. reorganize and compact.

i think - generally quick defragmenters use the only defragment option and not the both defragment and compact by default. but windows defragmenter does them both.

edit : if i use full defragment(that is defrag and compact) on defraggler then it takes time. then it'll be continuously blue(to indicate) but if i use quick defrag then there will be spaces (white blocks) in between files.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Lisandro on August 01, 2009, 08:25:41 PM
i think - generally quick defragmenters use the only defragment option and not the both defragment and compact by default.
Generally, good defragment tools have both options: quick and complete defragmentation ;)
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Omid Farhang on August 02, 2009, 11:17:44 AM
Generally, good defragment tools have both options: quick and complete defragmentation ;)

For example?

Yeah give some examples please!

Defraggler (for free), Diskeeper and PerfectDisk for paid programs.
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Black3agl3 on August 02, 2009, 07:20:29 PM
Defraggler (for free), Diskeeper and PerfectDisk for paid programs.

Wat do u hav to say about AusLogics Disk Defrag?
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Omid Farhang on August 02, 2009, 07:29:28 PM
Defraggler (for free), Diskeeper and PerfectDisk for paid programs.

Wat do u hav to say about AusLogics Disk Defrag?
That's what I am using myself, but if you are looking for a defragment tool to re-arrange all files and continues your hard drive free-space, it don't do it
Title: Re: New discover for speeding up scan!
Post by: Omid Farhang on August 02, 2009, 09:16:01 PM
but, is it good?
Yes, it is. It defragment quick and fine.