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Title: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Pondus on August 26, 2009, 10:08:18 PM: It seems that IObit Security 360 becomes the target of malware due to its success.

http://www.iobit.com/fake.html
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: bob3160 on August 28, 2009, 02:38:33 AM: If you download the program from a known source, you wouln't have this problem. :)
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: CharleyO on August 28, 2009, 01:59:31 PM: ***

The problem is that newbies and the non-thinkers have no idea what is a known source.
One source is the same as another to them.

***
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: RejZoR on August 28, 2009, 02:34:21 PM: Quote from: bob3160 on August 28, 2009, 02:38:33 AM
If you download the program from a known source, you wouln't have this problem. :)

Even this doesn't exactly apply since the release of Win32:Induc virus...
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: cinchez on August 28, 2009, 03:27:08 PM: Quote from: RejZoR on August 28, 2009, 02:34:21 PM
Quote from: bob3160 on August 28, 2009, 02:38:33 AM
If you download the program from a known source, you wouln't have this problem. :)

Even this doesn't exactly apply since the release of Win32:Induc virus...
Well its evident alright!^^

NOTE to all: A piece of advice, download softwares from safe sources^^(if u nid to check the "safety" then u've come to the right place^^)

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Mr.Agent on August 28, 2009, 03:59:25 PM: Also in term of grammar the fake IObit isnt great. "Insteller" lol where did he take his grammar im curious you guy know ? ;D Its just funny to say it i wanted to warn you its so easy to see if its a fake like he did do or also look on Description....

Mr.Agent
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Unta on August 28, 2009, 04:31:04 PM: and its company value is "IObit Fuck Virus" :o He told you he is a virus already ;D and how in the security world a decent anti-virus will use the F word in its engine ?

http://www.iobit.com/Images/f3.jpg (http://www.iobit.com/Images/f3.jpg)
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Mr.Agent on August 28, 2009, 04:52:43 PM: The guy must not be so polite and got great reputation for sure lol. ;D
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Shiw Liang on August 28, 2009, 05:57:00 PM: Then that means Io Bit security is not good?
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: YoKenny on August 28, 2009, 06:36:10 PM: Quote from: shiw liang on August 28, 2009, 05:57:00 PM
Then that means Io Bit security is not good?
Try to un-install anything from IOBit and its as hard get rid of as anything from Norton (Symantec) as it leaves junk all over your hard drive.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: mevcit on August 28, 2009, 07:32:42 PM: Quote from: shiw liang on August 28, 2009, 05:57:00 PM
Then that means Io Bit security is not good?
No, not at all. You can trust in anything from IObit (at least for now). ;)
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: bob3160 on August 28, 2009, 09:51:43 PM: Quote from: shiw liang on August 28, 2009, 05:57:00 PM
Then that means Io Bit security is not good?
Nothing wrong with IObit unless your careless as to where you download your software.
Read and verify before you press that download button.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: YoKenny on November 02, 2009, 10:05:17 PM: Quote
IOBit Steals Malwarebytes' Intellectual Property

Malwarebytes has recently uncovered evidence that a company called IOBit based in China is stealing and incorporating our proprietary database and intellectual property into their software. We know this will sound hard to believe, because it was hard for us to believe at first too. But after an indepth investigation, we became convinced it was true. Here is how we know.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=29681
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Pondus on November 02, 2009, 10:42:47 PM: Quote
Quote
IOBit Steals Malwarebytes' Intellectual Property

Malwarebytes has recently uncovered evidence that a company called IOBit based in China is stealing and incorporating our proprietary database and intellectual property into their software. We know this will sound hard to believe, because it was hard for us to believe at first too. But after an indepth investigation, we became convinced it was true. Here is how we know.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=29681

Wow....... :o.....i will now remove "smart defrag" from all of my computers....... >:(
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: essexboy on November 02, 2009, 10:55:18 PM: We noticed this a few days ago when we received a complaint that malwarebytes only removed 20 infections and then charged for the rest

For those interested here is another company that is playing on the MBAM name
Code: [Select]
http://wwwmalware-bytes.org/malwarebytes/index.html XoftSpySE
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Pondus on November 02, 2009, 11:00:42 PM: Quote
During the course of our investigation, we uncovered additional evidence that IOBit may have stolen the proprietary databases of other security vendors as well. We are in the process of contacting these vendors.
I guess this is SUPERAntiSpyware and Ad-Aware..............
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Soure73 on November 02, 2009, 11:16:49 PM: Wow! :o Really disturbing news. Maybe Alwill should add their software to the Avast database of fake antivirus? >:( ;D
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: DavidR on November 02, 2009, 11:24:15 PM: Quote from: essexboy on November 02, 2009, 10:55:18 PM
We noticed this a few days ago when we received a complaint that malwarebytes only removed 20 infections and then charged for the rest

For those interested here is another company that is playing on the MBAM name hXXp://wwwmalware-bytes.org/malwarebytes/index.html XoftSpySE

It would be advisable to make the link to the suspect site unclickable, as in my quoted text just in case they have any other underhand tactics.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: essexboy on November 02, 2009, 11:26:08 PM: Fixed put in a code box
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Pondus on November 02, 2009, 11:35:47 PM: Is this the same, the name is written a bit different...

XOFTspy Portable Anti-spyware for U3
http://software.u3.com/Product_Details.aspx?ProductId=103&Selection=15&Lang=en-US
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: DavidR on November 02, 2009, 11:48:36 PM: Fore some considerable tome xoftspy was listed on the spywarewarrior site (http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm (http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm)) as a rogue anti-spyware.

They were supposed to have cleaned up their act and were removed, personally there are many anti-spyware applications out there with no dubious history for me to ever use any of their software.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Pondus on November 03, 2009, 12:00:00 AM: It is on WOT now
http://www.mywot.com/en/forum/4775-iobit-steals-malwarebytes-intellectual-property
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/iobit.com#comment

Have also been posted on IOBit forum and removed........strange.....
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: YoKenny on November 03, 2009, 12:23:51 AM: Quote from: Pondus on November 03, 2009, 12:00:00 AM
It is on WOT now
http://www.mywot.com/en/forum/4775-iobit-steals-malwarebytes-intellectual-property
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/iobit.com#comment

Have also been posted on IOBit forum and removed........strange.....
Kinda like not positive things about Comodo on their forum?
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: bob3160 on November 03, 2009, 12:37:08 AM: Time to get rid of it and the rest of their software. :'(
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: nmb on November 03, 2009, 05:24:41 AM: Quote from: Pondus on November 03, 2009, 12:00:00 AM
Have also been posted on IOBit forum and removed........strange.....

see this : http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=29681&pid=152783&st=60&#entry152783

nmb
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Jtaylor83 on November 03, 2009, 05:37:43 AM: How very rude of these people.

Confirmed by hpHosts (http://hosts-file.net/default.asp?s=iobit).

Iobit is herby guilty of fraud.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Marc57 on November 03, 2009, 05:52:30 AM: Sounds like they're too lazy to come up with their own database. What a rip off.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Sesame on November 03, 2009, 06:13:38 AM: I wonder whether this software is like an illegal version of something like GDATA or it is simply "repackaged" version of Malwarebytes...

As an end-user, it shouldn't be a problem if anti-virus companies "share" their info but it's illegal in the context of intellectual properties, which is not always respected outside of so-called "Western" countries. I guess some agreements in the area of international laws are needed among developed countries and rising ones.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: YoKenny on November 03, 2009, 06:26:40 AM: Quote from: Marc57 on November 03, 2009, 05:52:30 AM
Sounds like they're too lazy to come up with their own database. What a rip off.
Thieves would rather steal than work as honest work requires effort.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Shiw Liang on November 03, 2009, 08:43:39 AM: That mean they don't need to work hard they just get new malware from other databases and just intergrate them in Iobit security 360!
Too bad smart defrag will miss us!
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: normishmael on November 03, 2009, 09:04:08 AM: Quote from: Jtaylor83 on November 03, 2009, 05:37:43 AM
How very rude of these people.

Confirmed by hpHosts (http://hosts-file.net/default.asp?s=iobit).

Iobit is herby guilty of fraud.

Wahl Hell Yeah!! Lets get our Rope!! We aint gonna burn no cross on your front yard,but we will shore as hell roast some marshmallows on the cross somebody else has lit!!"

Malwarebytes has all the street cred of Eminem.
These are the same Wally's that billed themselves as a "Complete Malware Solution" yet bitched when they were tested as such!! (EMSI tests+ earlier SSupdater Tests.)

The motivation?
How about quashing an up and coming rival in the already crowded arena of
"antispyware/anti malware"?

Believe what you want.
I believe Malwarebytes is so crooked, they have to screw their pants on.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: YoKenny on November 03, 2009, 10:50:28 AM: @normishmael

I say get the lawyers involved to settle their differences.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: SpeedyPC on November 03, 2009, 01:23:44 PM: Read the update news http://msmvps.com/blogs/donna/archive/2009/11/03/iobit-is-denies-stealing-of-mbam-database.aspx (http://msmvps.com/blogs/donna/archive/2009/11/03/iobit-is-denies-stealing-of-mbam-database.aspx)

It said

We also have many various sources of malware samples from warm-hearted users, computer security fans, and major security groups from all over the world. We have admitted that it’s hard to avoid mistakes, like a silly or duplicated name. But there is in no way means we steal Malwarebytes’ or any other's database. We are investigating and tracking on those items which Malwarebytes declared stolen.

SpeedyPC
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: FreewheelinFrank on November 03, 2009, 01:33:21 PM: Quote from: SpeedyPC on November 03, 2009, 01:23:44 PM
Read the update news http://msmvps.com/blogs/donna/archive/2009/11/03/iobit-is-denies-stealing-of-mbam-database.aspx (http://msmvps.com/blogs/donna/archive/2009/11/03/iobit-is-denies-stealing-of-mbam-database.aspx)

It said

We also have many various sources of malware samples from warm-hearted users, computer security fans, and major security groups from all over the world. We have admitted that it’s hard to avoid mistakes, like a silly or duplicated name. But there is in no way means we steal Malwarebytes’ or any other's database. We are investigating and tracking on those items which Malwarebytes declared stolen.

SpeedyPC

MalwareBytes never released their "fake" detections into the wild. There's no way they could have been submitted by users.

Either MalwareBytes is lying, or IOBits is.

I know who I believe.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: SpeedyPC on November 03, 2009, 01:36:17 PM: Who Sherlock Holmes!.............MalwareBytes ;)
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: cinchez on November 03, 2009, 02:25:15 PM: The "truth" shall prevail, must that be the reason why we should stop this?

No, I dnt think so...Someone has got to pay for "their" deeds, reaping "their" fruits that "they" bore...

Justice be done my friends..^^ :)

-AnimeLover^^
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Lisandro on November 03, 2009, 04:35:48 PM: Quote from: bob3160 on November 03, 2009, 12:37:08 AM
Time to get rid of it and the rest of their software. :'(
I did it quite some time ago. I lost confidence when then did Advanced Windows Care a shareware.
Time to get rid of their Defragmentation tool...
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Pondus on November 03, 2009, 05:05:55 PM: All IObit software is now removed from my computers.
Advanced system care and smart defraggler
the new defraggler is http://www.piriform.com/defraggler
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Lisandro on November 03, 2009, 11:03:50 PM: Quote from: Pondus on November 03, 2009, 05:05:55 PM
the new defraggler is http://www.piriform.com/defraggler
My new defragmentation tool, very flexible, http://www.auslogics.com/go/diskdefrag/en
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Pondus on November 03, 2009, 11:29:01 PM: Quote
My new defragmentation tool, very flexible, http://www.auslogics.com/go/diskdefrag/en
Interesting, think i must try this "Auslogics Disk Defrag Screen Saver"
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Lisandro on November 04, 2009, 01:29:40 AM: Quote from: Pondus on November 03, 2009, 11:29:01 PM
Auslogics Disk Defrag Screen Saver
Screen Saver ??? ???
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Shiw Liang on November 04, 2009, 04:24:34 AM: But is Aulogic better?
It seem to defrag very fast I had some doubt about it!
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: cod head on November 04, 2009, 03:39:54 PM: I have now got rid of Iobit 360 security and advanced system care although neither gave me problems.Its just I trust MBAM more.I have been using Auslogics disk defrag for a while now with no problem.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: YoKenny on December 09, 2009, 11:30:01 PM: IOBit Theft Conclusion
Quote
Nevertheless, IObit did subsequently remove all of Malwarebytes' definitions from their database (thereby cutting their database size by ~40% in one fell swoop). Though we did not receive an apology from them, nor any official acknowledgment of their theft, this reaction speaks for itself. Removal of our intellectual property was what we wanted, and we therefore consider that we have won. We thank the community, online media outlets and our partners for their support in helping us achieve this favorable result.
http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=33217
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Omega40 on December 10, 2009, 12:09:23 AM: I'm glad to hear the good news. ;D
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Lisandro on December 10, 2009, 11:27:00 AM: Thanks for the news.
Indeed, no iObit products in our computers anymore.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: cod head on December 10, 2009, 04:28:04 PM: It goes to show what people power can do in boycotting a product.If everyone had said they were not bothered I doubt if Iobit would have done this.It also shows that MBAM were right to get the story out.
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: drhayden1 on December 10, 2009, 04:39:03 PM: never used them in the first place
and i guess i won't use them at all
their products are now in the last place-crap ;D
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: Avast Eagle on December 30, 2009, 08:42:37 PM: Total disapointment, oh well... wont miss it then :o
Title: Re: IObit Security 360 Kills Fake IObit Anti-Malware
Post by: DavidR on December 30, 2009, 10:10:08 PM: I have never used them and personally after this I never will. There really are plenty of applications out there that will do the same across the whole IObit range, that don't have this stigma hanging over them to choose a different company.