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Title: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Pondus on October 27, 2009, 02:53:41 PM
Some Windows 7 users complain 'I am stuck in limbo' when upgrading to the new OS.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/174329/windows_7_upgrade_hell_some_vista_users_face_endless_reboots.html
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: YoKenny on October 27, 2009, 03:24:37 PM
I am going to find out today as I am going to rebuild my Vista capable system from scratch after I take backups of the data I want.

I'll be installing a new hard drive as primary and the old one as secondary then install Vista Home Premium and get it working then use the Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade that I can get from my local PC store that I purchase the system from.
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: bob3160 on October 27, 2009, 05:05:58 PM
I've now done over 30 installations of Windows 7 and am still waiting for the first problem.
It always helps to follow instructions and make sure that you don't have any incompatibilities before you update. :)
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Marc57 on October 27, 2009, 05:18:46 PM
This has to do with the student version and it has now been fixed.

http://windowsitpro.com/windowspaulthurrott/article/articleid/103032/flawed-student-version-of-windows-7-now-fixed.html
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: bob3160 on October 27, 2009, 05:43:05 PM
For the qualifying students, you can get your copy at:
http://www.win741.com/ (http://www.win741.com/)
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: roro on October 27, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
I think this is like any upgrade or change of the Windows system.  I will wait at least a month (probably 3 or 4 months) before installing Windows 7 to see what fixes will occur, before I install the windows 7 system that I received today.  It definitely seems to me that a clean install of 7 is the answer, so I definitely won't upgrade Vista.  BTW, I have no problems with Vista, but probably don't use my computer as much as most.
I know it is difficult to wait and I want to see the new Windows speed etc. too.
I hope all of you, like Bob, will have a good experience with installing Windows 7.
RoRo
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Marc57 on October 27, 2009, 09:56:57 PM
I've now done over 30 installations of Windows 7 and am still waiting for the first problem.
It always helps to follow instructions and make sure that you don't have any incompatibilities before you update. :)



I've done 3 installs (All clean installs) and have yet to have a problem.
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: bob3160 on October 27, 2009, 11:28:07 PM
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It definitely seems to me that a clean install of 7 is the answer,
A clean install is nice but you can still save your user data and at least transfer it over to your new Windows 7 install.
There really isn't any need to wait. Windows 7 has been very reliable even during the beta testing. :)
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: essexboy on October 27, 2009, 11:33:55 PM
I would concur there, I installed 7 straight over the Beta - 20 minutes later working like a dream 
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: YoKenny on October 28, 2009, 12:11:23 AM
I was talked into purchasing the full Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit package and its installed and working like a champ.
The system seems much quicker than before but that might be the larger hard drive that I put in and installed.
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: bob3160 on October 28, 2009, 12:27:48 AM
I was talked into purchasing the full Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit package and its installed and working like a champ.
The system seems much quicker than before but that might be the larger hard drive that I put in and installed.
I highly doubt that extra storage space increases speed.  :)
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: YoKenny on October 28, 2009, 01:27:24 AM
I was talked into purchasing the full Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit package and its installed and working like a champ.
The system seems much quicker than before but that might be the larger hard drive that I put in and installed.
I highly doubt that extra storage space increases speed.  :)
Wait until I load all of my applications and now I have to check if they are 64bit compatible.
I have avast! V5 beta2 running on it  8)
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Marc57 on October 28, 2009, 03:29:56 AM
I was talked into purchasing the full Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit package and its installed and working like a champ.
The system seems much quicker than before but that might be the larger hard drive that I put in and installed.
I highly doubt that extra storage space increases speed.  :)

It's not the space, it's the performance. The Western Digital Caviar Black I put in a couple months ago made a BIG difference.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: scythe944 on October 28, 2009, 04:44:07 AM
Well it does have 32MB of cache, which may be larger than your last hard drive (probably 8MB) so that will increase the speed a bit, but as Bob said, and increase of storage shouldn't increase speed.

Glad you're shopping from newegg now, if you haven't before.  It's a kick ass company!
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: YoKenny on October 28, 2009, 10:30:19 AM

It's not the space, it's the performance. The Western Digital Caviar Black I put in a couple months ago made a BIG difference.

The new 320GB hard drive:
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?name=st3320310cs-pipeline-hd-sata-320gb-hd&vgnextoid=9539b5346d05a110VgnVCM100000f5ee0a0aRCRD&locale=en-US

The old 160GB hard drive:
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?name=null&vgnextoid=075a7ea70fafd010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD&locale=en-US

Made sure I had the latest drivers for the Gigabyte motherboard G31-ES2L as they had updates for Windows 7.
Their driver download site is in Taiwan and horribly slow. :'(
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: bob3160 on October 28, 2009, 05:13:34 PM
I just replaced the 3 IDE drives I had in my system with the following:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001RB1TIS/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=4043272197&ref=pd_sl_46aroyjg75_b (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001RB1TIS/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=4043272197&ref=pd_sl_46aroyjg75_b)
I didn't get it at Amazon. It was installed at the computer shop and I think they made a mistake since I only paid $150.00 :)
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Pondus on October 28, 2009, 05:25:59 PM
Good price. Price here is  274.951 USD  http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=430925
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: scythe944 on October 28, 2009, 08:31:24 PM
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It was installed at the computer shop and I think they made a mistake since I only paid $150.00

Uh... can I get the name and number to that computer shop? I need some stuff with prices like that!
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: bob3160 on October 29, 2009, 03:48:35 AM
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It was installed at the computer shop and I think they made a mistake since I only paid $150.00

Uh... can I get the name and number to that computer shop? I need some stuff with prices like that!
I never realized the kind of bargain I received till YoKenny made his post and I did a little research on the drive I just had installed. :)
Not to worry, I'm sure he made it up in the 4 gigs of ram he sold and installed. :)
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: bob3160 on October 29, 2009, 01:43:11 PM
ISO Downloads and Fixes for Windows 7 Student Download (http://lifehacker.com/5391688/iso-downloads-and-fixes-for-windows-7-student-download)

Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Avast Eagle on October 30, 2009, 01:35:08 PM
Windows 7 will work properly on my laptop specs?

Processor AMD Turion 64 X2 mobile technology TL-50 / 1.6 GHz Dual-Core 64-bit processor
RAM Installed Size 1.0 GB (Upgrading to 3.0 GB)/ Technology DDR2 SDRAM - 533.0 MHz
Video Graphics Processor NVIDIA GeForce Go 6100 (256vram shared)
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: YoKenny on October 30, 2009, 01:47:54 PM
@Otaku Ichise

I would add at least 1GB RAM but 2GB would be better.
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Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor

Brief Description

Download and run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor to see if your PC is ready for Windows 7. It scans your hardware, devices, and installed programs for known compatibility issues, gives you guidance on how to resolve potential issues found, and recommends what to do before you upgrade
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1b544e90-7659-4bd9-9e51-2497c146af15&displaylang=en
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Avast Eagle on October 30, 2009, 06:58:50 PM
Thanks just bought a new memory ram 2gb today, i now have 2,75gb since my NVidea VGA does share 256 video ram.

Gona try Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor now  :)
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Alan|Cvette on October 30, 2009, 08:23:47 PM
Upgrading to Win7 for free thanks to HP. I hope I don't have to face these reboots  :-[
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Avast Eagle on October 31, 2009, 12:16:08 AM
ok only the "Aero" thing didnt pass.

hum wonder whats diference in choosing windows 7 architeture 86x or 64x?
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: YoKenny on October 31, 2009, 12:34:45 AM
Its 86x or commonly called 32-bit

The Aero should pass but maybe you need to update the video driver for the NVIDIA GeForce Go 6100 adapter:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

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Aero
The Aero desktop experience, available in the Home Premium, Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions of Windows 7, mixes cool graphics with useful new ways to manage your desktop.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-CA/windows7/products/features/aero
Title: Re: Windows 7 Upgrade Hell: Some Vista Users Face 'Endless Reboots'
Post by: Avast Eagle on October 31, 2009, 12:24:00 PM
Thanks, it wasnt necessary to go to Nvidea Website, Windows 7 Updates gave me the drivers for my Nvidea Ge Force Go 6100, dunno if it was from the company Acer who asked Nvidea support for this older laptops, or maybe Nvidea decided to itself since W7 is so nice  ;D
I installed the 64 bit version since i have AMD 64 and seems like a new computer with 3gb of memory ram  ;D

(I see so 86x is 32bit, i shall remember for the future  ::) )