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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: radicalb21 on June 21, 2004, 12:19:14 PM
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Does anyone know what new features will be in version 4.5 of AVAST? What improvements have been made? When will there be a BETA version to test? Last and certainly not least any idea when it will be realeased? Just curious by the way. Thanks again in advance.
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OK, it's probably time to disclose some more info... ;)
Feature wise, it'll add the following (only most important news listed):
- New "Network Shield" resident provider module to directly block network worms like Blaster, Sasser etc...
- Support for new archives/unpackers
- Support for much more IM/P2P programs built into the IM/P2P providers
- New scanning "TCP daemon" for easier integration with third-party software (even you can write one :-))
- Silent mode in the Outlook/Exchange provider
- VRDB 2.0 (greatly enhanced healing success rate)
The program will probably also feature a new default skin and we'll likely have a new web site design...
About the schedule: since I said "July" (with no further details) you might've figured it will not be somewhere around the Independence Day but rather around the end of the month...
Hope this helps,
Vlk
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Hey VLK,
It's radicalb21. First let me say thank you for disclosing some information on version 4.5 of AVAST. I do have one question could support be added for both Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird in AVAST version 4.5? Thanks again in advance.
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What about the mail protection? Current does its job well,but some kind of low-level interception would be nice(most of peoples don't know how to set it correctly if the mail client isn't supported by Mail Protection Wizard). Any changes around this one?
Thx
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I do have one question could support be added for both Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Thunderbird in AVAST version 4.5?
What kind of support are you talking about, exactly? The Mail Protection Wizard will support Thunderbird (even the latest version) but that's about it...
What about the mail protection? Current does its job well,but some kind of low-level interception would be nice(most of peoples don't know how to set it correctly if the mail client isn't supported by Mail Protection Wizard). Any changes around this one?
Yes, but not before avast 5... FYI low-level (network level) mail scanning has its drawbacks, too... E.g. the inability to scan encrypted messages.
HTH
Vlk
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He probably means Script Blocking i guess.
Thanks for that mail info,i'm looking forward to test 4.5 beta for you :)
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Can I ask you a favor?
Please, take a look into the WISHLIST... If we can, let's fill the users wishes and do not repeat all them again...
Vlk, when you say a new website design you mean you will let YaBB behind? (Wilders has done it...).
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Vlk, when you say a new website design you mean you will let YaBB behind?
No, I was not talking about the forum.
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Hm,but ashMaiSv.exe is not running as service as stated above.
Its initiated via Startup regstry section and is then resident in memory. Services are only for aswUpdSv and ashServ.exe.
I'll make a small test if i can use current ashMaiSv as service :)
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Ok i just rtied and it was working ok. I suggest that you make services for ashDisp.exe and ashMaiSv.exe. There will be no need for extra registry entries in startup section and i'll have a better information control with AEC ;) Unless there is some problems with these two executables and Windows 9x based OS ?
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ashMaiSv can be installed as a service - it's in the help file. I don't know if it has any advantages/disadvantages though. I guess the current state has a reason...
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Ok ashDisp.exe cannot be used as a service,because its not working properly and "a" ball is not shown in trey either.
ashMaiSv worked fine. It would be just easier to monitor with AEC for now,nothing more i guess :)
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ashMaiSv.exe makes good sense to run as service if you need to use it as a SMTP relay from other machines. The reason is that it will run even if no user is logged on...
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ashMaiSv.exe makes good sense to run as service if you need to use it as a SMTP relay from other machines. The reason is that it will run even if no user is logged on...
Any disavantage in Win XP? ::)
I'm guessing if I make it run like a Service too...
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ok another question. Will 4.5 have herustics in the scanners? then I wont have to have 2 backup herustic scanners that cost a fortune
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Hi,
Hopefully the amount of resources that Avast uses won't go up to much with this newer version? I wouldn't want to see Avast get bloated at all like the many other programs out there.
By the way I just started trying Avast about a week ago and I must say that I have been extremely impressed by the communication that I have seen coming from both VLK and Igor on this forum. It is really refreshing to see people that care so much about there users/customers. For this you both deserve a big Thank You!
Sincerly,
Yoga
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Hi,
Hopefully the amount of resources that Avast uses won't go up to much with this newer version? I wouldn't want to see Avast get bloated at all like the many other programs out there.
By the way I just started trying Avast about a week ago and I must say that I have been extremely impressed by the communication that I have seen coming from both VLK and Igor on this forum. It is really refreshing to see people that care so much about there users/customers. For this you both deserve a big Thank You!
Sincerly,
Yoga
First of all, WELCOME TO FORUMS Yoga !!!
Yeah, and you didn't see nothing yet... stick around and you'll see what's the real communitation between avast! programmers and avast! users... unbelievable. What's best of all, they are not just programmers - they are our friends in the first place !
Go Alwil, go !
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Thank you very much Craftec!
The Avast guys sound like some pretty remarkable people! I think I'll stick around for awhile. :)
Great work by the way on the skins! Thats really awesome what you've done. We are using the pirates theme right now on ours which is really cool. I plan on trying the rest of them out here soon though. :)
Take care!
Sincerly,
Yoga
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Are there any new updates on version 4.5 of avast? Any idea on possible release date or even a possible date for a PUBLIC BETA? Also will heuristics be used in all the modules of avast? Any new features or upgrades to current features? Thanks again.
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Are there any new updates on version 4.5 of avast? Any idea on possible release date or even a possible date for a PUBLIC BETA? Also will heuristics be used in all the modules of avast? Any new features or upgrades to current features? Thanks again.
it seems i'm not only one who gets eager about Avast 4.5 !
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Radicalb, what I've heard it won't have a beta, but I could be wrong. Not everything is done right now... VRDB needs improvements, etc.
About heuristics in all the modules of avast, remember that this was said before: only in version 5 or later. In version 4.5 it won't be possible. Anyway, heuristic analysis could not be the 'better' detection solution and avast could not add it to other modules than mail scanning. Well, I'm only guessing 8)
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Well i changed my mind with heuristic stuff. After some normal usage of NOD32 and AntiVir i encountered 2 samples which were detected by both heuristics and not by avast!. I did submit them to alwil team,but this isn't the same.
What about triple layer scanning?
First check file with signatures,if nothing found check with heuristics and if nothing found Sandbox-ing the sample. This would make almost a perfect detection system. The only problem might be a performance/memory usage tradeoff...
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The only problem might be a performance/memory usage tradeoff...
The loses are too big for that in my opinion...
Better a backup scanning or on-line.
Are you sure that AntiVir did not give you false alarms? For me it occurs 4 times... I submited the files to Alwil but they give no answer to me... :'(
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Vlk wrote:
The program will probably also feature a new default skin and we'll likely have a new web site design...]The program will probably also feature a new default skin and we'll likely have a new web site design...
Stupid question, but what can I do... Is there any chance for default skin to be one of those professional looking made by me ? I already know the answer - NO. Martin is main person in Alwil, responsible for graphics, and that's understandable... but, no one said anything about how that skin will look like... I'm guessing it's gonna be something professional looking, just because of all those requests from avast! users for something professional looking, not "747 cockpit" skin like they used to call it...
I mean I made first "professional looking" skin, it's normal to ask is there any chance to integrate that skin at least into that package among the other 3 default skins that comes with avast download...
Sorry for bugging you guys with something that is not really important...
Cheers !
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Hi SZC, not a stupid question at all...
The fact is, we already have a skin ready for avast 4.5... And it's not exactly one of the serious-looking. That's because we have no intention of making avast dull.. ;) We somehow feel that many people like to have something non-standard, and the default skin should meet this criterium. :)
Bundling one of your skins instead one of the default 3 is quite a good idea, though... Which one would you like to use? :)
Radical, please forgive me but the info you're asking is still under embargo. It will be posted as soon as it is clear. Sorry. (I hope that doesn't ruin your business :) :))
Cheers,
Vlk
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BTW heres the design of the avast 4.5 skin. :)
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Uuuu very nice design :) If you're planing on adding one SZC's skins i 'd vote for RejZoR-Sharp. Not because of the naming,but because of the design :) (maybe also Lite-On and Bionic)
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Hey Vlk, thanks for answer !
This skin proves that Martin is the KING !!!
Skin is so clean, sharp and easy to navigate... what do you need more ? It just reminds me on some older avast! skins, but I guess that is somethng like trademark, logo, emblem...
Skin is perfect, and I agree with you Vlk... you shouldn't make avast! dull and ordinary looking, because avast! is not just ordinary antivirus tool... it's the best. OK, kill me 'cause I'm agressive, but I love it so much I could do anything to defend it...
I would be so happy if you decide to integrate one of skins made by me into default bundle... I just don't know which one... I like BIONIC very very much, on the other hand, REJZOR-SHARP is something that is so clean and professional looking (IMHO)... I'll let you guys decide... OK ? Maybe REJZOR-SHARP 'cause that way, all those users that are asking for some "serious" looking skin, will be able to choose it from default package, without any additional downloading and installing... I don't know... put them both, hehe... sorry, joke...
Cheers !
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I like the defult skin, looks cool.
If you do include one of SZC's skins i would like to vote for my personal fav of his, and thats Black Liquid.
--lee
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I'm still stuck on LCARS. :) Wonder why?
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Sasha, please, choose the third default skin by your choice, the one you like most... 8)
For me, Black Liquid ;)
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If they ask me, it would be Rejzor-Sharp and Bionic. Maybe they could put 4 skins inside default bundle for avast! 4.5
avast! v4.5 - with 4 default skins, hehe ;D
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SZC,
Are you from Mars? ;D the Little Avast green men! ;D
I might have to call you 'little skins green men!'
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The problem with puting of more than 1 skin to the installation package is that it would increase its size which is something not really desirable....
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Yeah, you're right Vlk... especially with those installation skin files with phisical sizes above 600 kb... you're completely right.
I don't know... then, BIONIC is much smaller in phisical size (1.3 Mb), comparing to Rejzor-Sharp (2.1 Mb).
Do you think Vlk, that integrating BIONIC into standard bundle, would be a good idea ? If you think so, then we can go with BIONIC maybe... however, it's my favorite anyway. I remember, you said once it's your favorite too...
Search for your reply number 9 in this thread:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=5443;start=msg40045#msg40045 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=5443;start=msg40045#msg40045)
SpeedyPC wrote:
SZC,
Are you from Mars? ;D the Little Avast green men! ;D
I might have to call you 'little skins green men!'
SpeedyPC - if you start to call me like that, I may have to ask CoJo to call you Mr.Handsome ;D ;D ;D
Thanks !
SZC
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Well when i last checked the size of RejZoR-Sharp it was 322KB in compressed state (like in installer). Bionic is twice the size of RejZoR-Sharp.
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SpeedyPC - if you start to call me like that, I may have to ask CoJo to call you Mr.Handsome ;D ;D ;D
Hey Little Skins Green men!
Your to late to call me Mr Handsome, why? I am un-handsome and very scary.
Okay................Little...............Skins...............Green................men
Planning any more avast skins?
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Well when i last checked the size of RejZoR-Sharp it was 322KB in compressed state (like in installer). Bionic is twice the size of RejZoR-Sharp.
I'm talking about extracted file size and taking up user's HD space after first avast! installation... I don't know... Rejzor-Sharp is kinda OK, but too plain for my taste... Vlk said, they don't wanna make avast! look dull... BIONIC is explosion of graphics... ;D
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Aaaah disk space isn't the issue for a long time. There is still lots of dialup users(here is the real size issue),but all of them have at least 10GB drive trust me. 30MB is nothing on 10Gig disk,but majority of users have 40GB+ drives. This is certainly not a problem i'm sure. And most of users seek for pro looking skins remember... ;D
If you take a bit more time its possible to make almost everything with ActiveSkin. Remember how i made Sensitivity dropdown for Resident Scanner on MacLover2000 skin? (yeah still not done heh) You can make even more complex things.
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RejZor wrote:
And most of users seek for pro looking skins remember...
Well, I guess all they have to do is go to avast! skins download section and download additional skins. Then, they can have "Pro-looking" skin... ;)
Really, Bionic is my best skin ever, and I really would like to see it in standard bundle. Just take a look at those nice "unreal" buttons, and that effect never seen before in any avast! skin... Vlk ?
If you take a bit more time its possible to make almost everything with ActiveSkin. Remember how i made Sensitivity dropdown for Resident Scanner on MacLover2000 skin? (yeah still not done heh) You can make even more complex things.
Yeah, I used that effect back in "Flat'n'Simple"... remember ?
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Sorry,haven't used Flat'n'Simple. Just tried it for a very short time,so i don't remember too well.
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maybe offer one addition install package where will be all qualite skins included ?
and for default package keep 1 skin (that neat 4.5 one :) ...
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That wouldn't be quite clever thing to do... avast! is well known as skinable antivirus tool. If they deliver avast! without at least 3 skins in standard bundle, it will confuse everyone. Anyway, it's not like we are talking about hundreds of MB, install versions of skins are 100-700 kb large in phisical size.
Cheers !
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All you are talking about 4.5 version of avast! I want to ask if all these great new features mentioned will be included in home edition or not?
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A little off-topic here, but I wanna ask if the "Unpack temp files in memory" feature will be implemented in Avast 4.5?
By "Unpack temp files in memory" feature, I mean the files in archives such as RARs or ZIPs which cannot be directly scanned by avast!.
Also this feature would keep fragmentation and disk-writes to a minimum since unpacked files from archives are not extracted to the temp folder. Would prefer a user-selectable RAM size for avast! to reserve for the archive unpacking.
Even though I doubt that this feature is going to come in version 4.5, will this feature be considered into the "to-dos"?
Archive unpacks are driving my GoBack crazy... >:(
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All I could request is that Avast 4.5 is an equal regarding resource-usage like the current version! (take care of people who have a non-new-pc) ;D
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Wouldn't it be interesting if all the possible skins could be posted and allow the members to vote on the one they like best? :)
Sojourner
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Sojourner,
If you want to see and download the skins, just go HERE (http://www.avast.com/eng/download/skins/index.html)
Enjoy
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Wouldn't it be interesting if all the possible skins could be posted and allow the members to vote on the one they like best? :)
Sojourner
There were some 'old' threads about polling on skins... They were not so 'famous'... few votes at all... Better is to choose your own best skins!!! 8)
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Well, that "bright"idea didn't last long! :D
Too bad -- I thought we could have some fun!
Sojourner
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Besides Sojourner
We have most of our fun on the Off-Topic Forum.
Here it's mostly solving problems. :)
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Sojourner, welcome to forums !
Here is new version of your avatar. If you like it, use it, if not, just erase it... ;)
(little bit smoother edges)
Cheers !
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SZC,
I like it! I was thinking the one I used was a bit too large and this is GREAT! :-* Thank you! :-*
Sojourner
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No need to thank me Sojourner... I like to make people happy if I can somehow. It was my pleasure.
Btw, is that you on the photo ? If that is you, I just can't believe how many great looking (beautiful) ladies we have in here... CoJo, Suszannah, Miss Juna (btw, where is she ?), Awake (she just disapeared... where is she ?), and now we have new member Sojourner... great !
Cheers !
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SZC,
Yes, it was taken four years ago, though. I think I'll keep it --- seems that people just can't take good pictures of me any more! :D
Bob,
I will see you on the Off Topic!
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Sojourner
Bob,
I will see you on the Off Topic!
Among others. I try to look at all of them. :)
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Ok i don't want to be pain in the rear,but what's with the 4.5 now?
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Ok i don't want to be pain in the rear,but what's with the 4.5 now?
Vlk is in Paris...
Igor in his vacation...
Pavel is out too...
I think we must wait until the end of the summer 8)
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Well, we would certainly like to release the update as soon as possible (especially because of the new WinXP SP2), but the truth is that there are still things to do... e.g. a few issues regarding the (un)packers.
The problem with software development is that it's hard to predict when all known problems will be fixed...
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No problem at all Igor... We can wait, no matter how long it takes. It's better to finish those things working slow, than to release it fast and invoke million other problems. We can and we will wait.
Cheers !
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I have no problem with waiting, but is it possible for a rough estamite, i.e october?
--lee
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Well, as I said, it's hard to estimate when you discover problems...
Personally, I hope it will be released in the beginning of Septemer (but I'd rather wait what Vlk says about it).
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igor
The impatience of youth!
Don't bow to peer pressure like Microsoft did with SP2.
We'll wait till it's right. :)
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Good morning, :)
I guess I missed something back a few months ago; just wondering why we are so eagerly waiting for version 4.5?
Bob, have you had any problems with SP2? I'm waiting as the article suggested, for a month. I am keeping everything updated, and I'm happy! :D
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Hi Sojourner,
For a discussion on XP2 please go HERE (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=6665;start=0) Thanks :)
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BTW, will the script blocker work for Morzilla firefox (new one) in v4.5?
--lee
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Any idea when it will be available as a BETA to test or when it will be released? When this happens how soon will BART CD 2.0 or ADNM?
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This should be clarified during this week (when we're finally back from the vacations...).
Thanks
Vlk
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Thanks VLK. Can't wait to hear the release schedule. I hope everyone enjoyed their vacations.
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The anticipation... the want to have and to see... Makes the experience all the more satisfying when we finally get to d/l the new v. :)
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This should be clarified during this week (when we're finally back from the vacations...).
Thanks
Vlk
Thanks for the infomation, hope that we'll be able to hear some good news soon...
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2 Questions
1) will the script blocker work for Morzilla firefox 0.9.3 (currently don't seem to).
2) Will it fully scan the registry for viruses, like some spywere programs do.
As when i deleated a worm recently i noticed it left behind a registry key so it would still try to start the now non-exsistent worm up on boot. All i would get is an error.
--lee
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1) No and I don't think it ever will. There's just no applicable interface to use.
2) Yes. Well not fully scan the registry but be much smarter :)
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All I could request is that Avast 4.5 is an equal regarding resource-usage like the current version! (take care of people who have a non-new-pc) ;D
I second that (I use a 300 MHz celeron pc :-[ )
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Are there any updates on version 4.5 or BART CD 2.0 or ADNM?
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Nobody has answered the question yet. VLK said more would be coming as of last week. Any updates on Avast 4.5, ADNM, BART CD 2.0? Please I would appreciate a response from the alwil staff. Thanks again in advance.
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Avast 4.5 is still in the work... Tweaking email engines :)
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Thanks Softwareguy for the response but I'm still curious what alwil has to say on the subject
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This is for VLK, Igor or any other person on the Alwil team. VLK wrote more info would be released as of last week and we still haven't heard anything at all as of yet. I was just wondering what the status of version 4.5 of Avast, ADNM, and BART CD 2.0 are? Some of the webpages need to be updated. They are still showing July. Any and all information would be very helpful as clients have asked me about the new products that are coming out soon. Thanks again in advance.
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ok
It doesn't matter how many times you ask guys, they probley don't know either, we were told by them about the end of sept (this month), as they are "making" new software there will alwys be delays because of bugs ect, there is no way to tell accuratly or roughly as there is no way of telling how many more bugs will come out, or at the last miniute they might find a tweak they could do.
You shouldn't rush these things, i would rather it come out and have less bugs ect then i come out with them, wouldn't you?.
Radicalb21, if your clients keep asking you of a time, then keep saying "the end of september", inform them there is alot to do while designing software, such as packers, email engines, debugging the command lines, the smart registry scan, any inprovments, bugs ect.
I mean im no expert but i would say these would take no short time and shouldn't be rushed.
--lee
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Any new updates on version 4.5 of Avast!, ADNM, or BART CD 2.0?
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my guess is ... we should all be patient..
it's hard, but hey, why "rush" it? life's a rush because one makes it so... ;)
as they say in belgium: "haast en spoed is zelden goed"
in english: probably it won't be a good thing if you're to fast....
;D
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my guess is ... we should all be patient..
it's hard, but hey, why "rush" it? life's a rush because one makes it so... ;)
as they say in belgium: "haast en spoed is zelden goed"
in english: probably it won't be a good thing if you're to fast....
;D
Or 'More Haste, Less Speed' which is a common English saying. e.g. 'The faster you go the more mistakes you are likely to make, slowing you down.'
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After a major re-work to Windows xp kernel (sp2) and the summer holiday season in Europe, I am pleased that Alwil aren't rushing out a new version.
I'm happy to wait for all the testing to be done and have a stable release of the new programme. Seems like good business sense to me.
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Amen!
By the way, how do you pronounce"ALWIL"?
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ALWIL, but like this............ alwil.
With reverence!
Sorry, English sense of humour which doesn't always translate too well.
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ALWIL, but like this............ alwil.
With reverence!
Sorry, English sense of humour which doesn't always translate too well.
Thanks inthewildteam!
I thought it might be " ALVIL". ;)
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I thought since it is Hungarian
No :-[ :-[
Czech Republic 8)
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Hi Technical,
Thank you -- :) You caught me in a trap, though -- you quoted my mistake!
By the way, I decided to make copies of those other files; the info is in the English folder on my computer. There is some possibility that some editing was done, after all. I is good practice to make copies, anyway.
I feel like everything is in order on my computer, thanks to my friends on the forum! 8)
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Sojourner,
Why are you making copies of everything? You only need a backup copy of something that you intend to change so if something goes wrong, you can correct it. Once things are working ok, the backup isn't needed. As far as the rest of the files go, they are installed by the Instalation Program so as long as you have it, making backups of all the files is a waste. But, if it makes you happy, be my guest. ;D
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How about: If you haven't got time to do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to fix it? :)
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Sojourner,
Why are you making copies of everything? You only need a backup copy of something that you intend to change so if something goes wrong, you can correct it. Once things are working ok, the backup isn't needed. As far as the rest of the files go, they are installed by the Instalation Program so as long as you have it, making backups of all the files is a waste. But, if it makes you happy, be my guest. ;D
Hi Bob,
I guess these threads grow so fast it is hard to get everything, but Technical told me what he thought would be a good thing for me to do --- and I appreciate any help you technical people can give me, so I did all of the things he suggested. From my inexperienced point of view, I will never lose anything, so I am NOT going through making copies of files and folders, except for what Technical suggested, and none of that would have happened if those copies of files and folders hadn't been discovered in the DATA folder. :) :) I guess we will never know where they came from, but I did NOT do it; I had never opened that folder before; I opened it when I was looking for the Ini file. ???
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Sojourner,
I guess we have another computer gremlin on our hands. ;D
Come to think of it, I had one of those not to long ago. :)