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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Farrukh on June 24, 2004, 05:13:42 PM
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Hi
I would like to know that what major difference does Avast and Trend Micro Internet Security have.
I need to buy one of them, but i cant make up my mind.
please, dont suggest Macfee or Norton as I hate those products.
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Well, here it will be better to ask 'what will I do with Trend Micro'?
No doubt, avast! 8)
Best and fast updates, skinned application, forum support, etc. etc. etc. ;D
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Well Trend Micro IS contains other components - such as firewall and parental control. But you can get a decent freeware firewall (such as ZoneAlarm Free or Sygate Free) that works with avast and most people don't need parental-control type applications... ;) :)
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I have read many reviews on the net that place trend Micro on the top of all Anti Viruses.
Macfee and Norton also fall short.
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Well... Trend Micro products really aren't bad but avast isn't bad either... ;)
What I mean is that details matter - some people like NAV, some like Trend and some like avast. You'll have to make the decision... :P
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I have read many reviews on the net that place trend Micro on the top of all Anti Viruses.
Macfee and Norton also fall short.
Care to elaborate? I hate strong claims like this, without appropriate facts to back them up. For one how does McAfee fall short? Its one of the best detection and definition products out there. Although I don't like its interface and internet center crap, it doesn't "Fall Short". For another, i'd like to see under what criteria any reviewer would rate Trend's product as the best, i'd question the thoroughness of any test that said that.
For another, Trend at best is a mediocre product. My personal testing, which is up to 30,000 viruses, shows trend to be merely "Average" in all catagories. Overall, with most all threats, it scores in the 92-93% range on my samples. If I put in rebased/repacked threats, this score drops considerably, as Trend doesn't seem to detect nonstandard threats very well.
Trend also proved to be somewhat unstable, a bit buggy, and its firewall was "Average" at best.
In summary, is Avast a better product? Yes... (in my opinion)
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A lot of us use Trend's Housecall (online scanner) for a "second opinion" if we question the results of an avast scan (don't forget to pause avast's Standard shield while you do that). After all, just about any a-v (or for that matter, any kind of security product) in the world will occasionally throw out a false-positive at you, or on the other hand a "false-negative" in the sense of missing something.
But we very rarely use two installed a-v's, simply because they almost always conflict with each other.
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When I used Trends PC-cillin I always had problems with their on-line auto updates. It was always quicked to do it manually and this is a bad thing as if you skip manual updates you can be caught out.
Avasts auto update for the most part is seamless and quick and it offers forms of protection that are not available on trends product.
This forum also has many ex trend customers. Yes some of us use the housecall on occasion for a second opinion, but you can't have that without lots of the other baggage.
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Don't forget to pause avast's Standard shield while you do that
Mike, is it really necessary? Will it afect the scanning?
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Reviews and ratings from ZDNet
ZoneAlarm Security Suite
Rated : 8.0
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/internet/0,39024165,39156882,00.htm (http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/internet/0,39024165,39156882,00.htm)
Norton Internet Security 2004
Rated : 7.7
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/internet/0,39024165,39118036,00.htm (http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/internet/0,39024165,39118036,00.htm)
Norton AntiVirus 2004
Rated : 7.8
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/internet/0,39024165,39118036,00.htm (http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/internet/0,39024165,39118036,00.htm)
McAfee VirusScan 8.0
Rated : 7.5
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/utilities/0,39024210,39116726,00.htm (http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/utilities/0,39024210,39116726,00.htm)
McAfee Internet Security 4.0
Rated : 7.2
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/utilities/0,39024210,10000133,00.htm (http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/utilities/0,39024210,10000133,00.htm)
Sophos Anti-Virus 3.7
Rated : 7.3
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/utilities/0,39024210,39116394,00.htm (http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/utilities/0,39024210,39116394,00.htm)
PC-cillin Internet Security 11
Rated : 8.1
http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/utilities/0,39024205,39119029,00.htm (http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/utilities/0,39024205,39119029,00.htm)
Kobra. I have not started this thread so that people can come and flame. If you like MacAfee, then stick to it. I am not asking anyone to drop your Choices for Trend Micro.
Moreover, this thread is b/w Trend Micro and Avast.
I want to buy a product. I need advice. Not flames
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Mike, is it really necessary? Will it afect the scanning?
Necessary? I haven't a clue, to be honest. Just one of the habits I've acquired, essentially not running two a-v's at once even if one's resident and the other on-demand.
And there are situations where things definitely seem to run smoother if the Standard shield's paused (I've got it set to High, which might make a difference) -- Win Update, for one. And an Ad-Aware scan is a little faster and smoother if Standard's paused, too.
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Zdnet is the most un-credible source of Reviews out there. Not only does Zdnet not even use their own samples for testing, they lack technical knowledge to even be considered credible review sources. Not that i'm a technical guru, but my god, they are newbish beyond belief.
For example:
"In past VirusBulletin tests, Trend Micro's PC-cillin has been tested on Windows systems six times since November 2001 and earned its coveted VB 100 percent title five times. By comparison, Norton AntiVirus has been tested on Windows systems six times since 2000 and passed each time; McAfee VirusScan has been tested and earned the coveted VB 100 percent title only once. "
So apparently, they think they can credibly recommend a product based on someone ELSES testing? That makes no sense to me whatsoever. Secondly, Virus Bulletin is nothing more than an indicator of relative ITW performance, but by no means is real world. Even 1 false positive disqualifies many people, so the details must be closely examined. Any reviewer that uses VB awards as a method to add credibility to their own reviews, deserves no mention at all in my book.
A more reliable test - if you exclude his DOS virses, would be:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/
Which as you can see, Avast scores a bit higher than Trend with the on-demand test, and comparing that to my own personal inhouse testing, he's pretty acurrate. Oh, and look at McAfee's scores here, compared to the other products listed... I don't run McAfee personally - and I probably never will run it, but few can deny its raw effectiveness with detections.
So your short answer: Avast is better than Trend.
PS: I don't see how you read into my first reply as a flame.. I just don't see it at all. You asked a question, and I answered it. The only thing I questioned, was your "Assumption" that everyone else thinks McAfee and Norton are lacking. Thats just not the case. Hopefully with my post, you'll be armed with more knowledge, allowing you to make an informed purchase decision for your AV product. Good luck.
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I think you may sound a little aggressive Kobra. Most people feel belittled when someone overwhelms them with technical speak or aggressively challenges what they say. Let's all just take it easy. :)
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Kobra, use what ever you like. Please, dont reply to this thread.
You can open a new thread for your Macfee.
This thread is for Trend Micro and Avast products only.
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I was using PC-Cillin2000. Unfortunetly, Trend Micro decides to kill all updates possibilities ( it's working since 2000 with the virus list. Only the engine i've have to update manual). So, i've decide to test internet Security and i've hated it! It installs a firewall without your wish and the memory usage were bigger then PC-cillin. So, i've decide to change my AV software and i discovered avast!. Oh .....nothing is better then avast!. A great software with one thing that no other AV have: this great forum and support.
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Kobra, use what ever you like. Please, dont reply to this thread.
You can open a new thread for your Macfee.
This thread is for Trend Micro and Avast products only.
Why the hate mate?
My McAfee? Ive never even run the program beyond the 1 hour I had it on to test it with my samples. I cannot stand the internet center, and I don't like the speed they update. Sooooo... Draw your own conclusions..
As for Trend vs Avast, raw data shows Avast as a better product. See my link above. But Avast has no firewall, which I think are pretty useless anyway, so that might be your ultimate deciding factor in your decision. But Avast has plenty more features in other areas.
I'm being kind, diplomatic, and informative man.. I'm trying.
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Other free firewalls could be used in conjunction of avast.
I think it will be better if you use this way. An all-in-one-systemworks-like-application is on the opposite side of th layered defense, which is usually the best solution.
avast and ZoneAlarm, or Sygate or Agnitum Outpost or Kerio... you will be protected, in my opinion, in a better way than a single integrated application like Trend Micro.
Consider too: updates and support ;)
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Mike, is it really necessary? Will it afect the scanning?
Technical while it may not be NECESSARY I like to turn it off anyway to avoid any possible conflicts between the scanners
And dont forget the other great online scanners
Command on Demand
F-Secure
KAV
BitDefender
RAV
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Hi all,
Ive use Trend mirco IS 2002 and 2004 and they both suck (in my opinion). The interface is really horriable and the updates that quiet a while to download, I never played with the firewall so I dont know if its any good.The only reason i got trend mirco IS 2002 and 2004 was that they came with my motherboard and my brothers motherboard, (and that i'd never heard of avast :( )