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Other => General Topics => Topic started by: uffbros on June 25, 2004, 03:45:03 PM
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Your comments on these unbiased test results for Avast.....It sucks........... Your explanations please?
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?avist.xml (http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml?avist.xml)
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What sucks is your link...
I read a good discussion about this in these forums, if I can find it I'll post the link.
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If you would look at my link..The forum apparently only recognizes part of the address so you have to copy/paste the link into your browser.
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uffbros you must've been on a different planet for the last year... The VB tests have been discussed here about zillion times... :)
Try doing a search on the forum for keywords like Bulletin or VB...
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I get so tired of hearing about the VB100 tests, and people using that as the standard of how well an AV performs. Personally, I use the test of how many infections I have received from using my surfing habits. None so far!
That means Avast has received a perfect 100% on my tests! :P
Douglas
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Yea, failing the tests is often due to something incredibly stupid.
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Aside from the obvious, this is historical data when over the last two years there have been 6 passes and 3 fails a different weighting.
And this is not the end of the story because there is no mention in what area, technical, etc it failed. These are not the be all and end all and without full information should be taken with a liberal dose of salt.
As Vlk said this has been aired a number of times and always to my satisfaction anyway. It has probably been talked to death if you chose to look.
Before making comments like. It sucks........... Your explanations please?
Please do a little research before making sweeping statements, a simple search on these boards would have been a good start.
You have been around here for a while (21 posts), I would have thought you had seen enough live user proof (not test labs) that avast works and the support on this forum is second to none when compared to other AVs support.
You should also have your own user experience of avast.I Thought Avast Was Great Until Reading This.....
Nothing has changed with avast, simply you read some bare information on test lab results. Are you any less protected having read the report, I think not.
David
Tried the rest and like avast the best (no matter what the report said).
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VB tests = Hogwash most people know this.. People that don't, are quick to point to VB as an indicator of a product, until they read deeper, and find out the specifics.
Do a search, theres been 20 threads on this. =)
Avast is not perfect, its not even the best.. But it doesn't "Suck"...
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Firstly,
Everybody should look at what verson of Avast was tested in this nutty report.....Avast32!!!!
Avast Home and Pro have overcome many of the shortcomings of the predecessor versions.
The VB testing is not as simple as their bulletin seems to be!
Avast is a fine, stable, reliable AV. Are there better AVs around?
Maybe .... but not ones that justify the cost. :P
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Also it might be wise to mention, that the past failed tests do not even apply today! How could they? I wouldn't care if it failed everytime for the last two years, as long as it passed one of the most current tests. Looking at Avasts track record on the VB 100 test site, only proves that it is getting better and better. Its passing more and more of the tests.
Douglas
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Your comments on these unbiased test results for Avast.....It sucks........... Your explanations please?
Will you come back? Why did you ask for explanations if you don't come back? ::)
Well, 'sucks' is not a word of the vocabulary of this forum :P
Techie, thanks for the clarification about how professional was that test.
Thanks Kobra and Vlk for the technical support.
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Oh I like people like him... I like them a lot !!!
They don't know anything about this antivirus, they don't know anything about avast! users, avast! community, avast forums and our spirit.
First thing he had to say was: "It sucks !"... calm down dude, and first think you have to do is to learn how to introduce yourself in here in a best possible way... first impression is most important... or you too are one of those Norton promoters ? ::)
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Hi all, can someone explain me what does it mean "sucks" ?
Sorry, I'm thinking it' not necessary anymore, as Craftec says: first impression is most important ! ;D
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avast! doesn't suck at all. That Virus Bulletin crap is a joke. I wouldn't believe most of anything they claim. As Korba pointed out avast! isn't the best but it nowhere near sucks. avast! is better then a good bit of the AVs listed on that Virus Bulletin.
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Hi all, can someone explain me what does it mean "sucks" ?
Sorry, I'm thinking it' not necessary anymore, as Craftec says: first impression is most important ! ;D
it a rude saying for something really bad.
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Boy oh Boy! What a blanket statement to make about such a fine product as we all have here in using Avast. This applies especially to those folks that are using the Avast (free) version. My gosh, the old saying that "beggers shouldn"t be choosers" is applicable here.
These tests are really no more of an indication than say looking at a new automobiles window sticker and noting that the average Gasonline mileage in the city is .....and that the average mileage in the country is ...... I bought a new car last year and my wife and I consistenly get better gas mileage than what was stated on the window sticker. My point is like the point that others here before me have made and that is nothing may be perfect that is man made but by gosh this product is sure one heck of a lot better than other products that are supposed to protect a computer that I had to pay for before switching over to a better product such as Avast. I think while you may have the right to express an opinion here you ought to do some homework on the product that your talking about before making such statements. One last thing that has been mentioned is this, the tech support help that a person can receive here from the team is worth more to me than anything else. Nothing is any better than the "warranty so to speak" that comes with it, if it even has a "warranty/tech support" :)
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Here is my response.Where better than a lab or experts testing all the major antivirus products. You say that isn't accurate..well then where is??? I disagree with you on that. I actually like Avast and especially as you say for free. I had Norton by the way and Nothing but problems on several machines I and my friends own with auto protect..so I don't promote Norton as someone suggested. I simply read that test results and was shocked that Avast failed. Several tech sites I participate in find that test site very reputable. Take care.
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Here is my response.Where better than a lab or experts testing all the major antivirus products. You say that isn't accurate..well then where is??? I disagree with you on that. I actually like Avast and especially as you say for free. I had Norton by the way and Nothing but problems on several machines I and my friends own with auto protect..so I don't promote Norton as someone suggested. I simply read that test results and was shocked that Avast failed. Several tech sites I participate in find that test site very reputable. Take care.
No, we do not have to take care.
That test worth nothing: old version of avast, not professional method and so on.
They must be care ;D
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Here is my response.Where better than a lab or experts testing all the major antivirus products. You say that isn't accurate..well then where is??? I disagree with you on that. I actually like Avast and especially as you say for free. I had Norton by the way and Nothing but problems on several machines I and my friends own with auto protect..so I don't promote Norton as someone suggested. I simply read that test results and was shocked that Avast failed. Several tech sites I participate in find that test site very reputable. Take care.
I ranked em with a 321 virus sampleset here:
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=5248
Sicne then, i've done way more testing....
Picking an AV is a hard decision - LOL! I know! So test after test after test.. I've finally put every AV through almost 30,000 virus samples, i've tested everything from the companies responses to virus samples, to support issues, and even watched their definition response times. Its not ALL about detection, and depending on your tastes, and what you like/dislike, it could be something as simple as the interface or asthetics that are important to you! Hell, even *I* have trouble making these decisions, and would like some reinforcement sometimes!
So what I finally did, was assign numbers to each product based on where I feel they stood in the following catagories:
Support, Definition Response, Stability, Resources/Performance(hog=low, light=high), Asthetics, Detection Power
I decided to rate each product from 1 to 4 in each catagory, 1 being horrible, 4 being superb. So I went about each product, and assigned a number to each one, for each product. Then I took all of the numbers, and added them up for each product, and came out with a 'Total' number for each product. Then I came up with a list of them, ranked in order, based on this final number: (I decided to only include the top 15 scoring products in detection on my virus test runs)
1) Kaspersky 21
2) eXtendia AVK 19
2) F-Secure 19
2) BitDefender 19
3) MKS_Vir 18
3) CommandAV 18
3) F-Prot 18
4) GData Avk 17
5) Virus Buster 15
5) Panda 15
6) DrWeb 14
6) ETrust 14
6) Avast Pro 14
6) AVG Pro 14
7) KingSoft 13
7) NOD32
8) McAfee 12
8) Norton 12
8) Trend 12
Now lets keep in mind, some scored very high in one area, and low in others, and this brought down the score... For example, AVK scored horrible in "Support" because they offer almost no technical support. But if support is a non-issue for YOU, then you can discard this number if you want, and look at everything else, and in that case, AVK scored higher! Here is how they broke down for each product.
(in no particular order)
Numbers rankings are in the order as listed per catagory below:
Support, Definition Response, Stability, Resources/Performance, Asthetics, Detection Power
So for example, MKS was 2-Support, 3-Definition Response, etc...
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MKS_Vir 2 3 2 4 3 4 - 18
eXtendia AVK 1 4 3 3 4 4 - 19
Kaspersky 4 4 3 3 3 4 - 21
McAfee VirusScan 1 1 2 2 2 4 - 12
F-Secure 2 4 3 2 4 4 - 19
GData AVK 1 2 3 3 4 4 - 17
RAV No longer available.
Norton 1 1 2 2 3 3 - 12
Dr.Web 1 2 3 3 2 3 - 14
CommandAV 3 3 3 4 2 3 - 18
F-Prot 3 3 4 4 1 3 - 18
BitDefender 2 4 3 3 4 3 - 19
ETrust 2 2 2 4 2 2 - 14
Trend 2 2 2 2 2 2 - 12
Avast! Pro 4 1 2 2 3 2 - 14
Panda 2 2 3 3 3 2 - 15
Virus Buster 2 3 3 3 2 2 - 15
KingSoft 1 1 3 3 3 2 - 13
NOD32 1 1 2 4 3 2 - 13
AVG Pro 2 1 3 3 3 2 - 14
Consider that Kaspersky, AVK, F-Secure and BitDefender are really close, and each has their own strengths and weaknesses. AVK for example, has a way better interface than Kaspersky, but AVK lacks any measure of technical support. BitDefender took a slight hit in support area, but overall is a solid, stable product, that gets definitions pretty quickly. F-Secure uses KAV definitions, and backup engines, so of course it detects great, the interface is great, but it gets some lower marks on support, resources and some minor stability.
Thats it, thats my final rundown, make your own decisions, or use this as a guide, its all up to you in the end. Best of luck.
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Kobra, which Anti virus do you use? Or is it a mixture? Or have you not decided yet and keep randomly switching weekly ;)
Also, have you tested the main four free versions - AVG 6.0, Avast! Home, Anti Vir PE and BitDefender Free?
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from that new Kobra test i see there is lot of things to be changed in Avast,
i see u gave Avast lowest definition response time ...
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Kobra, which Anti virus do you use? Or is it a mixture? Or have you not decided yet and keep randomly switching weekly ;)
Also, have you tested the main four free versions - AVG 6.0, Avast! Home, Anti Vir PE and BitDefender Free?
I've actually never stopped running my base setup, which is eXtendia AVK.. I run/test the others on MS's VPC as needed.
I tested AVG7 and Avast Pro, as well as BitDefender Pay one and AntiVir.. Generally, I avoid testing free versions of products personally, as I never believe in something free as important as an AV. Thats like putting free tires on my car. :P
PS: Another reason is I don't think anything free, can support extremely timely, and rigorous updates of the database. That requires people and man hours, and as a result - MONEY.. But again, thats just my opinion.
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I tested AVG7 and Avast Pro, as well as BitDefender Pay one and AntiVir.. Generally, I avoid testing free versions of products personally, as I never believe in something free as important as an AV. Thats like putting free tires on my car. :P
Edit by myself:
I remove my post from this thread like I do not want to be messed in a personalities battle of nothing.
I won't change my mind about the other users of this forum. I know them enough. They support me when I need. I'll support them when they need.
We are the dream team. We are a band of brothers: so unique so united 8)
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Generally, I avoid testing free versions of products personally, as I never believe in something free as important as an AV. Thats like putting free tires on my car.
PS: Another reason is I don't think anything free, can support extremely timely, and rigorous updates of the database. That requires people and man hours, and as a result - MONEY.. But again, thats just my opinion.
Well, I don't know about that... avast! Home Edition works so well, that you practicaly can't tell the difference between Home and Pro version. Saying that free programs are not as good as paid for versions is completely unadvisedly... totaly untrue. avast! Pro gives you more options than Home Edition, but nothing more in protecting your computer from outside pests than wonderful Home Edition.
You are one of those guys who like to be always in the center of everything, and I can tell that... but, I think that your how-antivirus-works knowledge is much bigger than you even know... it's just you are that kind of guy... it seems like you like a lot to make statements like that. I've read somewhere in these forums that you said you had to leave some other forums because some people jumped all over you... calm down a little bit, and no one will force you to leave these forums. That's not the way. You're probably so young and full of energy, but after some time, you'll speak much more wisely, trust me...
Use avast! no matter is it Home or Pro version. You and me, we both know that this application is great. Let's keep avast! forum best in the world...
Cheers !
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Sometimes I wish I was young and full of energy... :-\
Married, 2 kids, and rapidly approaching middle age. Everything is great in that statement except middle age.. LOL!
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No matter, you are not less worth if you have 40 years or so...
I'm just telling, that sometimes you speak like little brat (sorry, nothing personal)... You have great, GREAT,
G R E A T knowledge, and I can tell that by reading all those virus tests you've done... something unbelievable. We all need people like you in here, and certainly, we won't force you to leave, actually, we will try to make you stay here as long as it's possible... but, you have to speak according to your knowledge. Remember that...
Stay here and don't be mad at my friend Technical. He is so wise and very good fried, I don't have to repeat that... it's well known in here...
He's just trying to calm you down a little bit... I also received some complains through IM, but we all think we can solve that problem easily by talking to you. That's exactly what we're doing right now.
Cheers !
EDIT: You said you don't like skins and you don't like to use them... I don't have problem with that. I don't wanna force people use skins, I'm not like that, everyone in here knows that... I make them, but if someone finds them ugly, he can choose not to use them... fine, problem solved... I'm offering you our friendship here in forums, and I think that's nice gesture... like Technical said before, you won't find this atmosphere anywhere else... if you say you don't like to have friends... then we have problem...
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He's just trying to calm you down a little bit... I also received some complains through IM, but we all think we can solve that problem easily by talking to you. That's exactly what we're doing right now.
LMAO, shows you what I know, I wasn't aware there was a "Problem" that needed to be talked through..
Anyway, like I said in another thread, I am no longer running Avast, its not currently up to the level I require in an AV, so i'm basically checking out of the forum, and will drop back in when the next version comes out and its time to test it again. Unfortunately, I won't be sending in samples to Alwil anymore for various reasons you can figure out. I'll check back in though from time to time.
Have fun.
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I'm basically checking out of the forum... Unfortunately, I won't be sending in samples to Alwil anymore for various reasons you can figure out. I'll check back in though from time to time. Have fun.
That was not our intention.
Everybody here knows my intentions and my behavior.
You can stay. You will be very helpful, but we need to learn how to survive here 8)
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Yeah, well you're not basically checking out, but turning your back to us... as we already said - Kobra, stay with us. No matter you don't use avast! as your antivirus tool, stay here as friend and valuable database knowledge...
Can you do that for us ?
Can you be a friend ?
Running away from every single forum you visit is not the answer ! Think twice...
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This type of thread happens where ever Kobra goes. Over at the security forum at BBR, the same thing happened. He acts like he is doing all this good, but he offends people where ever he goes. He said the same thing at BBR, that he was done and would check back later. He never left....hes still posting there. I don't have a problem with people lending a hand, but Kobra thinks he is the expert AV tester, and that is not true. He is a total ameteur, and would not even reveal his test bed of virus that he used in his tests at the security forum at BBR where he started the same AV test thread. As far as Extendia AVK goes, they have no trial to test the AV. Their tek support is beyond horrible. You have to buy their product, before they will even answer an e-mail. Even then its spotty at best. They have no return policy, and their AV is known to slow even fast systems because it is a resource hog. I would highly discourage anyone from even considering the AVK AV that Kobra claims he uses.
Douglas
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I'm just curious why everyone suddenly got mad. He offered his advice and personal opinion which is what I asked for.
Honestly, guys, lay back a bit. What's the problem?
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I'm just curious why everyone suddenly got mad. He offered his advice and personal opinion which is what I asked for.
Then I suggest you take his advice for what its worth. :)
Douglas
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Staind, you have to read all his posts and replies first to understand this, but doesn't matter anymore... however, that's behind us. We asked him not to leave, we want him to stay, but I guess he is the only one who will decide... as we don't want to force anyone to leave (that's not this forum's policy), we don't want to force anyone to stay... he is grown up, very clever man, I just hope he's coming back.
Cheers !
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Strange is kobra rarely answers to questions, various ones ...
but i will be always thankfull to re-discover for me MKS , i thought they not exist anymore ... well i was totally wrong :) they still here and powerfull ...
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I'm just curious why everyone suddenly got mad. He offered his advice and personal opinion which is what I asked for.
Then I suggest you take his advice for what its worth. :)
Douglas
I take any advice I can get into account. You guys just shouldn't criticize him though when I specifically asked for his opinion.
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No one said anything about his opinion and answer to your question. He said that freeware programs are not good as paid for versions and that was very unadvisedly... It's not true, completely not true, and that was the problem...
Anyway, this forum is not the only one where he jumps into verbal fights. We asked him very nicely to calm down a little bit and not to leave this forum, what else should we do ? Beg him ?
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I'm just curious why everyone suddenly got mad. He offered his advice and personal opinion which is what I asked for.
Then I suggest you take his advice for what its worth. :)
Douglas
I take any advice I can get into account. You guys just shouldn't criticize him though when I specifically asked for his opinion.
Your request for advice from Kobra, has nothing to do with my dislike for his online behavior, and his un-friendly way that he sometimes posts, here and in other forums. Our responces to Kobra, have nothing to do with you, and are not generated from your replys at all.
Douglas
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I just want to add my thoughts on this. Avast 4 Home has always been a good program for me and as a FREE one at that. I have ALWAYS had better protection with Avast than I once did with paid versions of McAfee and Norton. I use other free programs that I choose to use and have had very good results with all of them. There abviously has been a thought among some people that "free is not worth using". As all of you know that IS NOT true. I just want to reinforce my appreciation to the Devs, Moderators, and everyone
here who has been kind enough and patient enough to help me with questions that I have had in the past. If I can ever be half as good knowledge wise about Avast as most of you are then I will feel I am accomplishing something to be able to help others. And to any new
members reading these posts here, Avast as a program, with the type and kind of free forum support you can get no matter if you use the free version or the paid version of Avast is worth more than any amount of money I can ever have. Thanks to you all. :)
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This is exactly what I'm talking about... people like neal62 should be greatest example for averyone who ever decide to visit these forums. You already have genuine avast! forums spirit. This is the way we all shoud talk to each other !
A way to go !
Cheers !
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Hi all,
I'm just a lucky avast! user, I love the product and this great forum, and I'm looking for PEACE !
Have a nice day !
ps: come on avast! :D
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Well I see it this way, use whatever AV you choose too. As long as the AV does what you need it to do then who cares.... Doesn't matter if you use avast!, AVK, Norton, McAfee, etc. If you think your AV missed a virus then check it with a different one to see.
But everything free might not be that good, but just cause it's free doesn't mean it's not worth using. How many AV's out there that you have to buy are that good? Norton is one that most people seem to dislike a lot and you have to buy that.
avast! might not be the best out there but it is getting better and better as time goes on. :)
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avast! might not be the best out there but it is getting better and better as time goes on. :)
I've heard that before already, but I must tell... considering all those characteristics (antivirus efficiency, user support, frequency of updates, forum friendship and readiness to help, forum spirit etc. etc. etc.)
avast! is complete product. And like it or not,
avast! is the best !!!
Just find me some product that has all those characteristics, just name it please.
I wouldn't be here if I think different...
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Saying Avast! is the best is a bit extreme. I won't argue with you, it's a great Anti virus product. It's free, has good support, etc. etc. you know this. But, overall though, I would say that maybe Kaspersky and a few others have it beat. But, believe me, after my Dad's norton subscription runs out I'm definitely installing it on his computer, and I've already installed it on some relatives. So I mean, I love Avast! :P
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You don't get me... I said "...all those characteristics..."
"...Kaspersky and few others..." - OK, probably great antivirus products, but show me their forum support, interaction between users and forum members like in these forums...
And, no, I'm not extreme... I just pledge my allegiance to avast! I'm not one of those who finds one virus in their computer that avast! maybe missed, and give up on this product... what are we searching for ? Something perfect ? Well, I have to tell ya... in my whole life (33 years) I didn't find anything perfect, just because there is no such a thing... it's just expression.
I live with avast! and I can see that this product is improving with every single update... they listen to their users, they change immediately any error or bug that is reported by avast! users, they help their users... that's what counts ! Correct me if I'm wrong...
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I agree with you as I said. I haven't seen any Anti virus that has the support that avast! does. You can post a problem here and literally in about an hour have a good, solid response that corrects the problem.
But, you have to admit that in many cases other Anti viruses do "out-detect' Avast! which is understandable in some regards. Although your chances of getting one of these viruses is low :P. Although, I will say that Avast!'s updates are kind of slow compared to others. But, I guess they do get out the updates quick if there's a major outbreak.
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Avast!'s updates are kind of slow compared to others.
Well, we ourselves read in this forums the table of responses...
Sometimes Symantec and McAfee were slower than our beloved avast 8)
Time of reaction can be compared with push updates Technology that we, the Pro users, have? :P
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Time of reaction can be compared with push updates Technology that we, the Pro users, have? :P
I don't know what this feature is.
edit - messed up quote function
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Speaking of reaction times:
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns/executive_tech/article.php/3316511
Almost all the "big ones" are at bottom of the list. Symantec, McAfee, Panda, Trend Micro etc... avast! is not so bad, not bad at all.
-- Jeccu --
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Actually, you're totally right. I take back what I said about Avast! slow response time. :)
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I don't know what this feature is.
Push iAVS is a special kind of update available only in Professional version.
Seems to be an exclusivity of avast! Enjoy.
Sometimes, it might be very important to perform the update as soon as possible (e.g. when a new virus starts to spread heavily). With push iAVS, it is possible to start the update remotely, on the request of ALWIL Software specialists. The request is done by a special e-mail message. avast!, checking the incoming e-mails, will recognize the message and automatically start the update.
Enable. Enables the push iAVS function
Add information about performed action into e-mail. If you select this option, avast! will add a note to the message saying if and how the update was performed.
Registration. The push iAVS service (Professional version only) must be activated by registration. After clicking on the link, an on-line form will open in your browser; here, it is necessary to enter the e-mail address that messages to start iAVS will be sent to.
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All I have to say is HA! I have been called rude for calling jack a$$es out that only come here to cause trouble. I swear there is such a thing as MANNERS, I think the forum leaders here are pretty lenient. I have seen people get banned at other forums for so much less. This is supposed to be a POSITIVE place to get help, and discuss Avast! Not a forum for rude b@st@rds that simply want to get a rise out of a community of friends. Yes, everyone likes CONSTRUCTIVE critism but no one like destructive cristism. The guy that started this link says it Sucks! points to one reference and leaves. I got something he can suck. Kobra seems so very condesending like Douglas said, he shows nothing except scores that for all we know he made up in his head. I mean really who has that much time on their hands, I have a job, go to college, play games and do family video editing. Hunting down a testbed of "30,000" virus's and constantly changing AV's while constantly formatting a hard drive seems like a lot of work. Even I get PM's discussing this dude or pointing to his links. Good riddance, see ya later, don't come back on my account.
Before you all start bashing me, think about it. We come here to discuss Avast! We answer questions to help others, check out some of my other links, we listen to constructive cristism (until it becomes destructive) we are a band of brothers and we will defend each other and our CHOICE of product. I have used other products I HAVE CHOSEN AVAST!
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This is my kind of man !!! KezzerDrix, I admire you !!!
This is best example of the way we all should think. These forums are ment to be like help forums. Their name says that in the first place - SUPPORT FORUMS... but it looks like there is more and more people who found these forums to start flamming and bashing other users only...
We are unite, oh so unite !!!
KezzerDrix - I'm not gonna argue with you, I'm at your side. Finally someone has guts to say it aloud, and you did it my friend !!!
We all are here - Technical, Techie101, MacLover2000, CoJo, DavidR, Chameleon, bbfi, MikeBCda, Bob,3160, Hurricane, Minacross, Miss Yuna, radicalb21, RejZor, shgoh, Tipton, dwarden, humble myself, whole Alwil team, and bunch of great newbie avast! users which we must not forget - they are avast! future !!! Sorry if I forgot to mention someone... you all are in my thoughts...
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Also this is interesting
Some of the programs were able to detect some of the viruses in the testing period heuristically — without needing an update. Ikarus, Quickheal, and Virusbuster were able to do this with the Dumaru.Y virus, whereas Norman and RAV were able to do it with Bagle.B.
Kobra what do you have to say about Quick heal's Herustics now?
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All I have to say is HA! I have been called rude for calling jack a$$es out that only come here to cause trouble. I swear there is such a thing as MANNERS, I think the forum leaders here are pretty lenient. I have seen people get banned at other forums for so much less. This is supposed to be a POSITIVE place to get help, and discuss Avast! Not a forum for rude b@st@rds that simply want to get a rise out of a community of friends. Yes, everyone likes CONSTRUCTIVE critism but no one like destructive cristism. The guy that started this link says it Sucks! points to one reference and leaves. I got something he can suck. Kobra seems so very condesending like Douglas said, he shows nothing except scores that for all we know he made up in his head. I mean really who has that much time on their hands, I have a job, go to college, play games and do family video editing. Hunting down a testbed of "30,000" virus's and constantly changing AV's while constantly formatting a hard drive seems like a lot of work. Even I get PM's discussing this dude or pointing to his links. Good riddance, see ya later, don't come back on my account.
Before you all start bashing me, think about it. We come here to discuss Avast! We answer questions to help others, check out some of my other links, we listen to constructive cristism (until it becomes destructive) we are a band of brothers and we will defend each other and our CHOICE of product. I have used other products I HAVE CHOSEN AVAST!
Wow, now thats mature, its amazing the things that are allowed on this forum (the whole suck reference is pretty bad kid)... You talk about manners, then post a atrociously bad 14 year old tempertantrum message like that???? .. Now stop PM'ing me, so I don't get anymore emails sent to my hotmail account telling me to come here and read this rubbish. I'll have to find a way to turn that off.
Oh, and dippy,
1) I don't format my hard drive.. I use MS VPC, and can have 5-10 PC's loaded onto my desktop. If that doesn't suit me, I have 3 other spare 2-3ghz machines here I can use as testbeds.
2) I didn't "Hunt down" my 30k samples, they were sent to me by a friend that works in an AV lab for one of the AV companies.
3) Sorry you don't have time.. I do... I'm not some starving college kid with a bad attitude, and pent up anger about something - only god knows what.
You guys all act like a irrational bunch of hippy cultist wierdos.. Get a life.
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Kobra wrote:
You guys all act like a irrational bunch of hippy cultist wierdos.. Get a life.
Maybe, maybe... but that's much better than act like some agressive brat, whose only aim is to put down avast! and it's users... no one wants that.
We are way ahead of you my friend... we are trying to help each other, not to blame and backbite... as I said, we all have to calm down about this...
I just suggest Alwil moderators to close this thread, 'cause we tried everything to calm this thing down... I tried everything, I spoked nicely without using any single bad word... nothing helped, so I don't know what else to do... I'm sorry, but we all have more important tasks in here than playing some stupid childish argue-game.
We like avast!, you don't... How simple is that ?
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I just suggest Alwil moderators to close this thread...
I wish I could do it by myself :-*
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Kobra wrote:
You guys all act like a irrational bunch of hippy cultist wierdos.. Get a life.
Maybe, maybe... but that's much better than act like some agressive brat, whose only aim is to put down avast! and it's users... no one wants that.
We are way ahead of you my friend... we are trying to help each other, not to blame and backbite... as I said, we all have to calm down about this...
I just suggest Alwil moderators to close this thread, 'cause we tried everything to calm this thing down... I tried everything, I spoked nicely without using any single bad word... nothing helped, so I don't know what else to do... I'm sorry, but we all have more important tasks in here than playing some stupid childish argue-game.
We like avast!, you don't... How simple is that ?
Um, he has helped Avast! users before, and he's just being honest. Again, you guys start the arguing - brought him here (by emailing him) and then when he responds you say he's an asshole. I'm thinking Kobra is definitely right here you guys do need to grow up.
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Um, he has helped Avast! users before, and he's just being honest. Again, you guys start the arguing - brought him here (by emailing him) and then when he responds you say he's an asshole. I'm thinking Kobra is definitely right here you guys do need to grow up.
Stained,
If you have a problem with other forums members about their behaver and it driving you nuts, it very simiple and straight forward "Common Sence"
Don't reply their massage at all and don't go into the forum subject thread.
Very simiple and it not to hard to wipe your back side with a toilet paper.
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Staind, what's your problem, ha ? Aren't you maybe Kobra2 ? ::) His second himself ? Multiple personality, so you are taking his side so strong without any visible reason... what's best of all, no one is forcing him to leave. We asked him nicely to stay, but to change his approach in this forum. No one said, he must think of avast! as best antivirus ever. That's my opinion and opinions of 98% of users who gathers in this forum. These forums are support forums, and if someone has nothing helpful to say, I really don't see why he bothers to stay here. Remember, these forums are not meant to be flamming forums...
I'm asking moderators again to close this thread once for all... this becoming so silly, just like chidls play... my father is stronger than your father... we don't need that. If you don't like this product, very simple... try to find some flamming forum or go to Norton forums... maybe you'll find better support there ::), and maybe you'll find better friends... but, I doubt that... you guys are here just to make fights. People can recognize it, and they don't like it wherever you go... believe me.
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OK here's some facts:
1. avast is NOT the best AV program on the planet (detection-wise).
2. The purpose of this forum is to provide (technical) support for avast users. Comments/suggestions are also welcome as far as they stay on topic.
3. It's perfectly OK to question avast's capabilities on this forum. We're not a riligious sect that wants to silence everyone who's not exactly sure about the product.
4. Posts about mutual antipathies of forum users will not be tolerated.
5. I'd recommend everyone to take it easy -- it's just an AV, OK??? ;)
Howgh!