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Title: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: lrbarton on February 03, 2010, 02:11:21 PM
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Can someone please help?? We have 2 laptops and both have the new avast version with no trouble...our desktop, though, has Windows XP and I have uninstalled and reinstalled 2x now...every time I try and connect to the internet the "page cannot be displayed" message comes up and then a red X appears over the Avast icon in the tray and it stops working. I go and FIX it and it keeps doing it...it will not update on its own...it says it is broken. Can anyone help me figure out why this is happening? Thanks!
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 03, 2010, 03:03:30 PM
Don't know what is happening, but the next step is to go to Windows uninstall and try to "Repair" the Program, If that doesn't work, try to "Change" or "Update" the program. Most of the time, one of those will fix the program.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: mezzy316 on February 03, 2010, 03:07:16 PM
The same thing is happening to me. My pc has crashed twice.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Jim Bryan on February 03, 2010, 05:46:14 PM
I am having the same issue, it started last Thursday, Periodic crashes with error 0x000000c5.  Ran the windows debugging tools and the results weren't helpful.  It seemed like the crashes would occur when the machine was idle for a while and I came back to it.  I removed Avast 5 and the machine hasn't crashed since.  I am not sure if it is related to a windows update or another program conflict?  Just for kicks I tested my Hard drive and memory, no problems found.

The event log entry for the last crash was
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck.  The bugcheck was: 0x000000c5 (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0x82d3404d).

After these crashes, I would uninstall avast in safe mode, then re-install.  The computer would be fine until the next day, then the problem would occur again.  Are there some updates to the AV engine that don't require a reboot, but change the way Avast works when the computer is restarted???
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 03, 2010, 09:45:08 PM
Yep. Can't tell you exactly what they are but the  fix and change commands do some serious changing and neither require reboots.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Sm3K3R on February 03, 2010, 09:55:59 PM
Reinstall Microsofts Visual C++ Redistributable and Flash player before reinstalling Avast.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!! - ME TOO -HELP?
Post by: wsimp71 on February 03, 2010, 11:04:02 PM
Hi

This has happened to me over last couple of days, i had 4.8 and the service stopped - wont fix, or restart and says the end points are missing. I uninstalled it and when i rebooted my lappy said it had recovered from a serious error. I then installed 5.0 and it appeared to be sweet. It has only been on the laptop for 2 days and the error has recurred. It is non responsive and tells me the service has stopped and I must restart it as system is unprotected - which it refuses to do and now sits with an X over the icon. When I click on anything it says Avast is in an unstable state - how do I make it stable. Interestingly when I bring the about Avast box up it says the version and files are unknown and again the endpoints cant be found?

Please can someone help?
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: pk on February 03, 2010, 11:37:22 PM
lrbarton, wsimp71: do you have any unp*.mdmp files in c:\ProgramData\Alwil Software\Avast5\log folder? If yes, could you please send me them to kurtin@avast.com?

Jim Bryan: could you please send me couple of latest minidump files from \Windows\minidump folder?

Thanks.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: wsimp71 on February 03, 2010, 11:48:21 PM
there are none, there is no log folder in there
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 04, 2010, 03:53:36 AM
Good point. At least in the English version, there is no LOG folder
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: marc-d-l on February 04, 2010, 05:17:54 AM
After installing and uninstalling 6 times, I couldn't get avast to turn on at start up.Tried everything finally fixed the problem. Went with AVG. Liked avast but avast 5 is a piece of GARBAGE.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Sesame on February 04, 2010, 12:14:12 PM
there are none, there is no log folder in there
Which OS are you using?  If it's XP, the folder is C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application DataAlwil Software\Avast5\log.

BTW, pk, how about putting your mail address on your profile like Vlk rather than letting bots harvest your email address?  Or are you showing your confidence on the protections of Avast! 5.0?  ;)
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Sm3K3R on February 04, 2010, 01:28:20 PM
After installing and uninstalling 6 times, I couldn't get avast to turn on at start up.Tried everything finally fixed the problem. Went with AVG. Liked avast but avast 5 is a piece of GARBAGE.

That is unfortunate.AVG free itself is crap (no offence).You ll have your PC fiiled with trojan horses very soon ,with AVG sitting there ,simulating an antivirus software ,but taking no action or not detectiing them.Avast 4/5 free >Avira free> AVG free.
Try and give information to the Avast team so you can make it work on your PC.It s for your own good mate.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Hermite15 on February 04, 2010, 02:39:46 PM
Good point. At least in the English version, there is no LOG folder

well first there is a log folder, with a log for each shield, and second that's not even where the avast dump files are located if any, they're directly saved under the alwill folder in either all users or program data. But obviously there won't be anything if AvastUI or Svc didn't crash.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Hermite15 on February 04, 2010, 02:44:52 PM
After installing and uninstalling 6 times, I couldn't get avast to turn on at start up.Tried everything finally fixed the problem. Went with AVG. Liked avast but avast 5 is a piece of GARBAGE.
then good luck with AVG; last time and only time I ever had a virus on my system, AVG was supposed to protect it. I had an alert... that the infection was already up and running. Thanks AVG  ;D
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 04, 2010, 06:46:45 PM
I feel sorry for that guy. I went with Avast because I got infected under AVG. And Norton's always had glitches also. AVG  is just above surfing without protection at all. That is why there is never a conflict!!
Good Luck Brother, you will need it.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: C4talyst on February 04, 2010, 10:22:34 PM
After installing and uninstalling 6 times, I couldn't get avast to turn on at start up.Tried everything finally fixed the problem. Went with AVG. Liked avast but avast 5 is a piece of GARBAGE.

LOL...good luck w/ that. I work in IT (Linux and Cisco for 11 years, specifically) and had been using McAfee and AVG for the past 10 years. Avast is better.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: KatznCohen on February 04, 2010, 11:30:14 PM
Every A-V misses some viruses, as you'll note if you read the reviews and stats. AVG has slid down in the ratings, but Avira and Avast are still near the top with (the paid) Norton. That's why there are free online scans to doublecheck our security.

Try checking out virtualdr. com. and other forums, and you'll see that problems with installing v.5 are rife, to say nothing of the other v5 builds that preceded  it. Avast shouldn't have released a version that has so many problems with so many users. Upgrades should run smoothly, and play nicely with other security apps, unless there's something seriously amiss in the user's computer. 
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: ts4putt on February 05, 2010, 12:01:59 AM
Say what you want I had no problems with 4.8 Updated to new avast. Tons of problems. Uninstalled,cleaned out crap, reinstalled 4.8. Beautiful. Unless this is cleaned up another one will be sliding down to use the latest term Thanks, Another Happy 4.8 User
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Rednose on February 05, 2010, 12:14:46 AM
Well, I installed Avast! 5 free on more than 20 PC's from friends/relatives now, and had only one problem that was solved with the last update. What you guys forget is that Avast! 5 is a complete new release, and it is impossible to test it with every OS-version/software configuration. So yes, some bugs have to be ironed out, and you can help the Dev's with that. Just telling that you have "Tons of problems" simply doesn't solve them ;)

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 05, 2010, 03:16:41 AM
well first there is a log folder, with a log for each shield, and second that's not even where the avast dump files are located if any, they're directly saved under the alwill folder in either all users or program data. But obviously there won't be anything if AvastUI or Svc didn't crash.
====================================

Hmmmm........ Logos says there is a Folder called Log also. Wonder where mine is?????  Logos, where is it?
We were looking for a crash type file not a note on a page like in the Avast window wth shields
 
(http://alwil.jpg)
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: YoKenny on February 05, 2010, 07:06:15 AM
@ jeffj4873

Look in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Alwil Software\Avast5\log
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Hermite15 on February 05, 2010, 11:16:49 AM


Hmmmm........ Logos says there is a Folder called Log also. Wonder where mine is?????  Logos, where is it?
We were looking for a crash type file not a note on a page like in the Avast window wth shields
 


in XP, just like Yokenny said
in Vista/Seven >>> Program Data\Alwill
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: YoKenny on February 05, 2010, 11:21:09 AM


Hmmmm........ Logos says there is a Folder called Log also. Wonder where mine is?????  Logos, where is it?
We were looking for a crash type file not a note on a page like in the Avast window wth shields
 


in XP, just like Yokenny said
in Vista/Seven >>> Program Data\Alwill

He's running XP but not added this in his signature for the helpers to see for some reason.  ???
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Hermite15 on February 05, 2010, 11:24:58 AM
I know, I saw on his screen shot he was running XP, I just added for Vista/Seven for the others reading the thread... :)
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 05, 2010, 06:20:16 PM
yokenny C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Alwil Software\Avast5\log doesn't exixt on my computer. I don't even have an application data folder.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Hermite15 on February 05, 2010, 06:38:06 PM
yokenny C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Alwil Software\Avast5\log doesn't exixt on my computer. I don't even have an application data folder.

show hidden files  ::)  :)
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 05, 2010, 06:59:01 PM
Nope. none hidden. Even a search for application data came up negative and avast folders only exist in start menu and under programfiles/alwil
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Hermite15 on February 05, 2010, 07:11:03 PM
Nope. none hidden. Even a search for application data came up negative and avast folders only exist in start menu and under programfiles/alwil

oh come on, it's under documents and settings in XP  ;) ...

Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Sesame on February 05, 2010, 07:21:23 PM
Nope. none hidden. Even a search for application data came up negative and avast folders only exist in start menu and under programfiles/alwil
Could you confirm that you are running XP?  If so, log files should be placed in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Alwil Software\Avast5\log."

Also, please read this (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/win_fcab_show_file_extensions.mspx?) to let your system show you the hidden files.
Quote
1. Open Folder Options in Control Panel.  Click Start, and then click Control Panel.  Click Appearance and Themes, and then click Folder Options.
2. On the View tab, under Hidden files and folders, click Show hidden files and folders.

PS  Well, I wonder if the other people gave up sending files to pk...
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 05, 2010, 07:26:30 PM
You guys tell me.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: YoKenny on February 05, 2010, 09:49:41 PM
Its not Windows 7 it looks like XP.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 05, 2010, 10:43:22 PM
I work in xp3. Just trying to show there is no folder like described, at least on my computer.
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: YoKenny on February 05, 2010, 11:00:54 PM
Are you running as Limited User or Adminstrator?
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Hermite15 on February 05, 2010, 11:27:07 PM
@ jeffj4873: just wondering, you know where folder options are, right?
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 05, 2010, 11:32:35 PM
Sure I know where folder options are. Is there a sxitch I don't know about??
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: Hermite15 on February 05, 2010, 11:47:09 PM
Sure I know where folder options are. Is there a sxitch I don't know about??

humm..well yes, that's where you can "un-hide" hidden folders...
Title: Re: AVAST 5.0 KEEPS STOPPING!!!!
Post by: jeffj4873 on February 05, 2010, 11:59:53 PM
I stand corrected! There were hidden files and under windows under that app data is alwil and Avast5.
Will avast creat some kind of dmp there ffor lockups? I see logs directory. "usntr" is the only file of size really. I knew some of you guys knew more than me on this stuff