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Title: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 15, 2010, 05:58:59 PM
1) Is there a link to a list as to what is new in avast! 5 over v4.8 (preferably on the download site rather than the forum)?  I tried searching for both "what's new" and "version history" and didn't get any hits.  The only thing I could find was a short list:

Quote
New user interface
Better performance
Safe and uninterrupted gaming
Fully compatible with new Windows 7

Which (other than Win 7 compatibility) doesn't tell me anything specific.

I also tried searching the forum to at least get some partial list, but couldn't find anything really useful without having to possibly slog through a LOT of posts (just bits & pieces of info here & there).

2) Also, is there a way to turn off the green pop-up box telling me that there's a version 5 available for download (I'm still running 4.8 and don't want to upgrade yet - especially not until I know what's new)?  I've got the Update (Basic) settings on Manual (for both database & program), yet I'm still getting the pop-up.  It happened once during a presentation, and that's really annoying! :)


Thanks!
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Jon_T on February 15, 2010, 06:30:21 PM
1)
Link below is the "Compare by technologies" chart:
http://www.avast.com/comparison-chart#tab3

The items noted "new" are the new features of avast! 5 Home, Pro and IS versions.

You can download a Quick Start Guide for avast! 5 Home, Pro and IS at:
http://www.avast.com/download-documentation
(The User Manuals are still for the 4.8 versions.)

You can find more info at the avast.com site.

2) Yes in avast! Settings.
(http://)
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: petusalem on February 15, 2010, 06:54:51 PM
2)

No Jon_T. He is using 4.8.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Pondus on February 15, 2010, 06:56:43 PM
Quote
1) Is there a link to a list as to what is new in avast! 5 over v4.8
Quote
(I'm still running 4.8 and don't want to upgrade yet - especially not until I know what's new)?
jepp he got 4.8... ;)
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Jon_T on February 15, 2010, 07:21:51 PM
2)

No Jon_T. He is using 4.8.
Ooops -- my bad.  :-[ Read the "Also, is there a way to turn off the green pop-up box ..".

Eyes focus on the "green pop-up" box. Only installed avast! 5 Pro one of my systems, and with with avast! 5, where the pop-up update is green.  Still using 4.8 Pro on my other system, and as today Mon (02/15) still only have the standard blue pop-up that the database has been updated; i.e., no green pop-up notification for avast! 5 program update. (yes I have auto update setup for both defs and program)
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 15, 2010, 10:18:41 PM
Thanks Jon_T for the links to what's new.  That does help give me most of the info I want.  Now all I need is a way to stop the 'new version' pop-up from appearing.

The closest thing I can see in v4.8 to your v5 image is a "Show sliding box after automatic updates" (which is currently checked).  Do you think unchecking this may stop the new version notice from appearing?  I'll try it, but it doesn't seem to fit my description (though the green notice is a box and it does seem to 'slide' up!).
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Pondus on February 15, 2010, 10:32:14 PM
see page 37, down in the right corner there is a details tab, if you click it there is moore settings, one called "silent" don`t know if it will work

http://download796.avast.com/files/manuals/user-manual-home-eng.pdf

found the picture here but text in Norwegian......
http://www.driftspartner.com/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=160&cntnt01returnid=96
It is on the left side of the tree last pictures where it says "Stille" (silent)
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 15, 2010, 11:05:43 PM
Pondus,

1) I can't seem to download the manual (I keep getting error messages - have tried direct and right-click to download).  Can you suggest another link?

2) The images on your link look more complex than in my program screens (admittedly it's hard to be positive going from Norwegian to English).  I should mention that on my current machine, I'm running the free version of v4.8.  Could this be the cause of different images?


UPDATE:  I may have found the same screen on my version, but I'm now wondering if I have to turn the running mode to "SILENT" in order to simply turn off this one notice.  When I actually manually update the database (and in the past, the program), I'd like to get status notifications of the progress.  But this new version notice pops up even when I'm not updating anything with avast!.  If I have to turn all notices off, I'll do so.  But I thought by having the updates done manually, then I wouldn't get info except when I'm actually doing the updates.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Pondus on February 15, 2010, 11:21:00 PM
only one way to fiend out, try silent and see what is happening the next week

and if you don`t like the " car stereo " look of avast, here is how to disable it
How to disable avast! anti-virus's default skin
http://forums.spybot.info/blog.php?b=24
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 15, 2010, 11:25:13 PM
Yup, I guess so!  :-[

Thanks for your help, even though it's not the answer I'd like, it is appreciated!
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Jon_T on February 15, 2010, 11:53:16 PM
Pondus,

1) I can't seem to download the manual (I keep getting error messages - have tried direct and right-click to download).  Can you suggest another link? ...
Did you try downloading User Manual from?:
http://www.avast.com/download-documentation
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Pondus on February 16, 2010, 12:10:07 AM
Pondus,

1) I can't seem to download the manual (I keep getting error messages - have tried direct and right-click to download).  Can you suggest another link? ...
Did you try downloading User Manual from?:
http://www.avast.com/download-documentation
If he clicked the link i gave, yes. It goes direct to the english pdf.doc
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 16, 2010, 12:19:06 AM
Pondus,

1) I can't seem to download the manual (I keep getting error messages - have tried direct and right-click to download).  Can you suggest another link? ...
Did you try downloading User Manual from?:
http://www.avast.com/download-documentation
If he clicked the link i gave, yes. It goes direct to the english pdf.doc

My bad.  I was (logically) trying to save the PDF to the avast! folder, but avast! makes that folder read-only, so every attempt to save it there failed.  I discovered this by trying the same thing with another browser, but this browser gave me a more useful error message.  So I saved it elsewhere - problem solved! :)
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 16, 2010, 12:26:35 AM
Unfortunately, the documentation says NOTHING about 'sliding box' or even 'Update options', even though both terms are used in the 'Details' section of Update (Basic) - grrrrr!  ???
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 16, 2010, 01:43:28 AM
Okay, unchecking the 'sliding box' option does NOT work.  :(

So I'm still looking for a way to turn off the pop-up (without silencing all notifications when I do a manual update) - maybe editing an INI file?
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: DavidR on February 16, 2010, 02:22:02 AM
I guess you didn't check the avast help file, see image (F1 key when the UI is open). From the avast Settings, Updates section, Details, click the small inverted triangle to expand the Details. Uncheck the Show notification box after automatic update.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 16, 2010, 02:31:21 AM
I'm using v4.8, so the options are slightly different.

The equivalent in v4.8 seems to be "show sliding box after automatic update".

I tried unchecking that box (and then clicking OK twice), but later on the "update to v5" notification still appears.  So that doesn't seem to be the fix.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: DavidR on February 16, 2010, 02:37:59 AM
That is a different question to the one I addressed, I thought your only concern was to stop the notification after an update and thought you were on 5.0 already.

Honestly 5.0 isn't the minefield you think it is, yes some people have had a problem and this is a support forum so this is where they come to with their problems. The ones who have no problems don't come here (well very few of them) to say they have installed and haven't had any problems.

I don't know is setting the Update (Basic) Program update to Manual would stop the pop-up you mention as it is currently set to Ask.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 16, 2010, 02:51:19 AM
Here's my current screenshot:

(http://i49.tinypic.com/27xp5qc.png)

Both update options are set to MANUAL (left side), and on the right side is the box I unchecked to NOT "Show sliding box after automatic update".  As I said, unchecking it did not stop the notices.

As to whether or not I'll eventually upgrade to v5 is besides the point.  This notice never occurred until about a week ago.  I need it to stop (without upgrading to v5 for now). 

The computer I'm using is used for public presentations daily.  I currently can't risk ANY problems having to do with an upgrade.  And because it's used for presentations, I don't want pop-ups appear during the presentation (which has already happened once).

If I didn't need to connect to a network in order to run the presentations, I'd just turn off avast! until the presentation was over.  But because I need net access while I'm presenting, I'd rather not turn off the AV software while it's connected.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: DavidR on February 16, 2010, 03:01:20 AM
As I said I don't know if that would work as essentially it isn't part of the update, but something else, Alwil trying to cycle users through the Update to avast5 to try and balance server load.

Is this avast 4.8 pro that you are using, as the only thing I can think of outside of what has been suggested is it might be tied to the ad in the 4.8 home version or possibly the iNews option.

I take it that your presentation are in full screen mode ?
If so perhaps the option not to display whilst in gaming or full screen mode.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 16, 2010, 03:24:35 AM
DavidR,

Yes, this machine is running v4.8 home.

No, the presentation isn't solely in full screen mode (only some of it - the other part is actual software demonstrations), so checking the full screen option will only help some of the time.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: DavidR on February 16, 2010, 04:56:00 AM
Theoretically if it is used for public presentations it should be the Pro version I would ave thought, and that doesn't have the ad that 4.8 home has. I don't know if that is 4.8 ad causing the display points about the new avast5 or not.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 16, 2010, 05:46:07 AM
DavidR,

The machine is a personal machine, and the presentations are not for any business purpose (it's a presentation at school).  BTW, here's the pop-up I've been talking about (finally got a screen grab of it):

(http://i50.tinypic.com/30ni5nk.png)




P.S.  Unrelated to the above (but related to your avatar): Blue Skies?  ;D
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: RejZoR on February 16, 2010, 06:55:31 AM
Or you can just update to a superior avast! 5.0...
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: YoKenny on February 16, 2010, 11:29:46 AM
Or you can just update to a superior avast! 5.0...

+1

By the way, relating to DavidR's avatar:
If at first you don't succeed then skydiving's not for you.

 
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: spg SCOTT on February 16, 2010, 11:59:54 AM
I am a little confused, the setting there is manual, NOT ask, so surely it shouldn't be showing that popup ???
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: YoKenny on February 16, 2010, 12:26:36 PM
@ spg SCOTT

I am confused.

What is Win7 FC?
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: mkis on February 16, 2010, 12:28:35 PM
Agree with spg SCOTT.

Perhaps at one time you ran a trial of avast 5, Muad'Dib.
If so, then there may still be remnants of avast 5 in your system.


@YoKenny - I wish it to mean Football Club because I'm hoping to join soon.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: spg SCOTT on February 16, 2010, 12:40:29 PM
@ spg SCOTT

I am confused.

What is Win7 FC?

Windows 7 Firewall Control...It was all I could fit into my sig, and I wanted the quote to still be there. Maybe I should change it, it is a bit confusing... :)

EDIT: Changed it now, and it fits :D
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Jack 1000 on February 16, 2010, 01:27:06 PM
That's strange that he's getting that pop-up notice with BOTH definitions and program updates set to Manuel.  Personally, I would at least set the definitions file to Automatic, BUT to deselect the Automatic Update "Show Sliding Box" if you don't want to be interrupted during your presentations.  Keep this in mind, not just for Avast 4.8, but for 5.0 as well.

Seriously, you run a greater risk of infection by having manual updates at manual and messing something up than having the definitions file update automatically.  I would still set the Program updates to "Ask When Update is Available." Set your Database Definitions to Automatic.  You can make those changes, turn off the sliding box after automatic update, but at least you will be protected.

What element is distracting during your presentations?  Is it the voice that announces the update or the sliding box itself?  Your answers to these questions may help us to guide you in setting up the program.  But I definitely would say, put the database definitions to automatic at least.

5.0 works great provided that you uninstall 4.8 first for best results.  The default setting is what I use for 5.0, which is the same as 4.8 is the following:

1.) Update Virus Database......Automatic

2.) Update Program...Ask when update is needed

In terms of solving your problem with 4.8, have you tried uninstalling 4.8 and reinstalling 4.8 to see if that makes a difference? (Yes you would have to re-register your license key.)  OR, you could just uninstall 4.8, get 5.0, after the AV updates,  right-click on the Registration Tab, fill out the form, click submit, and get protected for 12 months.

Jack
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Muad'Dib on February 16, 2010, 03:38:04 PM
In response to several questions about the problem I'm having.

1) I've never installed v5 (trial or otherwise). I didn't even know about v5 until the green pop-up started.

2) It's the visual pop-up that's a problem, I'm not getting any voice announcing the update (if I had, I would have probably turned off avast! completely!).

3) I realize the risks of manual updates, but it's a risk I consciously take.  I update definitions frequently and scan often, but these are done on my schedule.  With settings to manual, I've never had any pop-up from avast! until now. 

4) I will probably eventually update to v5, but at this point I can't afford the time to do so, or even the (probably tiny) risk that there may be problems when I do so.  So for now v4.8 is what I'm staying with.

The only thing I'm trying to find out at this point is how to turn off the green box without turning off avast!.  I appreciate the advice on how to better protect my machine, but that is getting beyond the scope of my current problem.  Thanks!
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: DavidR on February 16, 2010, 04:45:45 PM
The Green pop-up is the old 4.8 program update notification, which 'should' be gone if you opted for Manual program updates, why it isn't I don't know. This however, may be considered an important update and the normal policy of not displaying it is being over ridden, but as an avast user I don't know this.

But you also spoke of another window giving details about version5 or is it just this box.
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: mkis on February 16, 2010, 08:18:13 PM
The Green pop-up is the old 4.8 program update notification, which 'should' be gone if you opted for Manual program updates, why it isn't I don't know. This however, may be considered an important update and the normal policy of not displaying it is being over ridden, but as an avast user I don't know this.

Yes I think you're right DavidR. But I have to think back over this one as I'm nearly always on avast 5 now. I usual have program update set for Manual. and I may recall getting a similar pop-up once a little ago, maybe two weeks, one week ago, and I would have clicked through to update, but cant exactly recall as I would have been shifting few things around at the time. Maybe another 4.8 user recalls this pop-up coming through. 
Title: Re: What's New in avast! 5 (and how to stop green notice)?
Post by: Jack 1000 on February 17, 2010, 08:15:51 PM
The thing is,

I don't know anyone that has both program upgrades and definition updates set to Manuel.  Starting to think that the message the OP is getting has been set by Avast as an emergency over-ride update notice other than the regular "New version is available" message.

Jack