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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: mayakovski on March 11, 2010, 03:02:05 AM
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Well it's been fun.
I have been a happy Avast user since 2003, used it at home, in my company and have used it for the companies I used to support. But no more, I simply cannot use an AV program that regularly uses between 80% and 100% of my CPU doing nothing and eats up around 100 MB of RAM even with all shields off..
Even when I disable all shields and having nothing but Windows XP SP3 running the AvastSvc.exe hogs the CPU almost non stop.
This started happening about 5 days ago to all 3 of my computers, I have ensured everything is up to date, uninstalled malwarebytes, made sure no other Anti-Virus programs are running and still the same thing. The systems are basically unusable due to the Avast use of the CPU. The most amazing thing is that this even happens with all shields disabled.
This was happening to my Toshiba laptop with 1.7GHz and 512 MB RAM, to my work machine with 2.8GHz and 1 GB RAM and to my gaming system with 3.0GHz and 2 GB RAM.
I have removed Avast 5 from all 3 systems and installed Avira, now my systems are back to working again.
I'll try Avast again someday once the bugs have been worked out of version 5.
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Something is wrong with your install. I just checked my system and the report was
AvastSvc.exe 00 cpu,mem 13.9,peak mem 30.2
Running w2k 233mz/160mb
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Something is wrong with your install. I just checked my system and the report was
AvastSvc.exe 00 cpu,mem 13.9,peak mem 30.2
Running w2k 233mz/160mb
Not sure how it could be the install as this happened on all three of my computers. And one of them (the gaming one) I wiped blank, reinstalled Windows XP, installed Avast 5, and that was it, as soon as the system rebooted AvastSvc.exe went crazy and acted as before.
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No such problem on mine XP Pro SP3, image of cpu and resources taken whilst viewing this topic.
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No problems here, either, on my XP Pro SP3 machine, though I did have an odd persistent surge in "System" CPU use that *appeared* to be associated with the newly installed v5.0, but that resolved itself after a reboot.
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What version of avast are you using? free? pro? suite?
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What version of avast are you using? free? pro? suite?
Was using the most up to date version of 5, the free version.
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Well pal, we need the version number you were using if you want us to help you, because that statement of latest version doesn't help, because avast 5 since release date have had some more builds, and the latest is v5.0.462. And if you were using a previous build, maybe the newest have that issues solved. So, what version you were using?
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It seem that it was 4.8
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The CPU hogging problems are usually fairly easy to diagnose - we just need a dump of the offending process. It's usually very fast then to explain what's going on.
BTW you don't have any scheduled scans, rights?
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Hello,
i do have similar problem, cpu usage of 40-50% on laptop with no active scans going on.
avast version 5.0.462, virus definition 100311-0
started few days ago.
laptop specs: intel Core2 Duo CPU T5870 @ 2.00GHz, 2gb ram.
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Well pal, we need the version number you were using if you want us to help you, because that statement of latest version doesn't help, because avast 5 since release date have had some more builds, and the latest is v5.0.462. And if you were using a previous build, maybe the newest have that issues solved. So, what version you were using?
Hey;
Well the last machine was uninstalled yesterday afternoon, and that was after I had just run both update modules, so I guess the version specifically was what was current yesterday at about 2:00PM.
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Mmmm, i'm the same, i dont know if u are using v4.8 or v5. But what it seems to me is that you are using version 5.0.462. Or am i wrong? Is the avast icon blue or orange?
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me its run really fine here. take about 17-18k and 7-8k ;D
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Same for me.
Since I've switched to the new avast release, I notice that the "system" process sometimes uses almost 100% CPU.
I didn't connect that with avast until I decided today to investigate further.
After using tools like process explorer and kernrate, I realized that the culprit was actually an avast process.
I turned off all the avast services and magically, the system process went down to almost 0%. I turned them on and it went back to 90%.
So... good bye avast... too bad... I have to find a new antivirus :(
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No problems here running Avast 5. Task Manager shows 0%-2% like nothing. If there is a higher number, it settles down right away.
Instead of uninstalling Avast, you might want to check the number of Start up Processes in Task Manager, and use MS Config to disable the services you don't need. (30 or less start up items is good, but the less, the better.) Avast Version 5 seems to be less draining on resources than version 4. Sometimes I will get right-menu fade-ins if I have tons of stuff on the clipboard or a huge picture in memory, but since upgrading to version 5, it has been less than before:
Here are instructions on how to use MS Config. Make sure that you scroll down and select the correct OS before starting the process:
http://netsquirrel.com/msconfig/index.html
I also notice less memory usage running Firefox 3.6 than IE 8.
Jack
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I am having a similar problem.
I am currently running Windows XP pro sp3 Intel dual core 2 GB ram
Avast is Version 5.0418
At startup AvastSvc.exe runs for approximately 5 minutes, taking 90-100% CPU. It does not matter if I log in as Admin, or user on Windows (permissions make no difference).
I went onto settings in Avast, and changed the startup settings so that Avast does not start until other programs start, and that changed nothing so far, I am still going through settings and trying to figure out what exactly is happening.
I have went through the startup items, and I have the bare minimum running there, Basically what I need for windows to start;), no Torrent programs at startup, nothing else major. Mouse, Keyboard, Monitor, Wireless Modem, OO LED, and Avast are the only non-system boot items. I am on a laptop that I have owned for 2 years, this is a new problem, there has been no major hardware changes, and yes I tried rebooting :P.
Like most users when I start my computer, I kinda need my computer ;). I am in the computer field, and though I know I can make my system run very well, I don't look like I know what I am doing when I am working on a clients system, start mine up, and have to wait 5 minutes to be able to access my own personal computer.
If I can't get this problem sorted out I will have to go back (and I believe it is a step back) to AVG :-[.
Brad
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I have the same problem here even with the 462 update and seems to get worse a lot faster when viewing flash video files on the net from youtube etc...
It is not a problem with anythign else other than Avast. My machine is XP SP3 with a recent fresh install. AV 4.8 was flawless and the update to 5.0 brought about this problem.
I am going to monitor till the next release and if it is not fixed then I am going to have to recommend a different AV to my readers at Tweaknews.net.
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:o Jesus Christ, I was going to upgrade to version 5, but now that I've seen this topic, I think I will be staying with version 4.8 until this is fixed.
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:o Jesus Christ, I was going to upgrade to version 5, but now that I've seen this topic, I think I will be staying with version 4.8 until this is fixed.
There are around a million people using Avast 5 and only a few people are having this problem. So I'd guess the chances of you having this problem if you upgraded to Avast 5 is very small. I would bet money that the people with this problem have software or hardware that is conflicting with Avast 5.
I have installed Avast 5 either free or paid versions on close to a dozen PC's running XP, Vista or Win 7 and have never seen this problem.
When I upgraded my first PC to Avast 5 I made an image of my boot drive before hand just to be safe though I never needed it. If you have a backup program such as TrueImage you have nothing to loose, give it a shot!
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;) the only people who post their problem here is the people who have conflict with some other program, instead of asking help they put the bad side effect of software conflict but who knows maybe they don't really use the product and the intention is to ruin the mind of real avast user. but they only few compare to real user out there that do not have any problem or conflict with the software ;)
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I went ahead and switched and so far, so good...no problems at all other than the female voice over they replaced the 4.8 version with sucking ass. :P
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;D bob can help you about that. ;)
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I don't have any problems with my Windows XP SP3 either with Avast 5.0.462. In fact, it can do scans in less than 20 minutes on a machine that is rather old.
Chances are there are other programs or hardware causing the conflict with Avast, thus the CPU usage goes up.
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I don't have any problems with my Windows XP SP3 either with Avast 5.0.462. In fact, it can do scans in less than 20 minutes on a machine that is rather old.
Chances are there are other programs or hardware causing the conflict with Avast, thus the CPU usage goes up.
That's what I am thinking as well. Or a virus or some other PUP that is draining his memory and CPU usage. Questions for the OP? How did you get version 5? Did you override version 4? Uninstall version 4 first? Run the special Avast uninstall utility to completely remove all of Avast?
Are you on a network? Such as a wireless network? I was interested because you said multiple computers all had the same problem at nearly the same time? Did this happen right after you installed version 5? Maybe if you have tried all of the above, you could uninstall version 5 and go back to version 4. Try that for about two weeks, and send an e-mail to the techs about this based on Avast 4's performance. If your CPU usage jumps up using version 4, than it's got nothing to do with Avast 5, and is likely something else with your computer. If version 4 says light on resources after that two week period, it could be something with version 5 and your machines and I would report this information.
Avast 4.8 gets discontinued on December 31, 2010, and who knows they could be up anywhere from an Avast 5.2-5.5 by than. There's lots of time for you to still use version 4, and lots of time for new and improved builds to come out and address these problems. But people have to report the issues to the Avast tech team.
If you switch to something else like AVG, there's certainly no guarantee that your RAM use will go down. In fact, AVG is much heavier on resources than Avast.
Jack
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:o Jesus Christ, I was going to upgrade to version 5, but now that I've seen this topic, I think I will be staying with version 4.8 until this is fixed.
There are around a million people using Avast 5 and only a few people are having this problem. So I'd guess the chances of you having this problem if you upgraded to Avast 5 is very small. I would bet money that the people with this problem have software or hardware that is conflicting with Avast 5.
I have installed Avast 5 either free or paid versions on close to a dozen PC's running XP, Vista or Win 7 and have never seen this problem.
When I upgraded my first PC to Avast 5 I made an image of my boot drive before hand just to be safe though I never needed it. If you have a backup program such as TrueImage you have nothing to loose, give it a shot!
There is zero problems with 4.8 so I wouldn't upgrade and throw the dice when a lot of peopel are having problems.
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:o Jesus Christ, I was going to upgrade to version 5, but now that I've seen this topic, I think I will be staying with version 4.8 until this is fixed.
Hi...
Could we please watch the language? Thanks... :)
God bless...
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;) here some of my experience that makes my cpu higher usage, ;)
the time that the registry booster detect some error in my registry
my cpu usage go higher 60 to70% but registry boosters always point out the game installed in my comp. :D
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I have removed Avast 5 from all 3 systems and installed Avira, now my systems are back to working again.
Good luck with those numerous daily FP's, corrupt/failed often enormous updates (speaking of CPU usage, you ain't seen nothing yet) the annoying splash screen at startup and the even more so annoying daily "begging" screens to purchase the full version.
But no worries, mate..... the Avira support staff will promptly, courteously & professionally answer IGNORE your NUMEROUS DAILY FP queries!
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@ Jack 1000 wrote:
If you switch to something else like AVG, there's certainly no guarantee that your RAM use will go down. In fact, AVG is much heavier on resources than Avast.
Amen to that, brother. You forgot to add that while becoming increasingly more intrusive and also increasing it's resource usage, AVG is quickly becoming the "New" Norton (IMHO)---
Norton AVG is as useful to a home computer user as a screen door is to a submerged submarine.
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I have removed Avast 5 from all 3 systems and installed Avira, now my systems are back to working again.
Good luck with those numerous daily FP's,
I have been running the free version of Avira for several years on several machines, except for a short period when I tested Avast, since I was considering purchasing a family pack. (I gave up on Avast when I realized that despite 3 different users having reported the same bug in the v. 5 beta, Alwil had decided that we are not worth their trouble. I don't normally pay money to be treated with contempt, and don't quite trust a company which advertises a feature knowing full well that it doesn't work on a significant number of machines.) I am now running the free version of Avira 9 on two machines and the beta of Avira 10 on one. I have NEVER had a false positive on any release version of Avira, and the false positives I reported with one build of the beta were fixed in the next build 2 days later.
corrupt/failed often enormous updates (speaking of CPU usage, you ain't seen nothing yet)
I have never gotten a corrupt update. I have rarely had an update fail, and in those cases where it did it was always at the time of a major engine update, which apparently can overload the servers which they dedicate to free users. The problem always straightens itself out in a day or two. I have never had a CPU usage problem, despite the fact that I tend to run my machines so long that a respectable junk yard will no longer accept them.
the annoying splash screen at startup and the even more so annoying daily "begging" screens to purchase the full version.
My registry parameters are set to prevent my EVER seeing a splash screen, ad screen, or anything remotely related.
But no worries, mate..... the Avira support staff will promptly, courteously & professionally answer IGNORE your NUMEROUS DAILY FP queries!
As I said, my one FP report (2 or 3 FPs in the same beta build) were fixed in the next build 2 days later. As to other technical questions and problems which I posted on their support forums, they were always answered very quickly, courteously, and usefully by Avira staffers and/or other forum members.
A request: I have no objection to people disagreeing with me, but I would prefer not to be the target of fanboy nastiness, which I sometimes see on the this forum. Thanks for your consideration.
C.
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:) will user always find a way to their satisfaction, if you satisfied to use other product, what the purpose of posting here? :)
can you tell me what is this all about?
and what the point of this threads? :)
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I have removed Avast 5 from all 3 systems and installed Avira, now my systems are back to working again.
Good luck with those numerous daily FP's,
I have been running the free version of Avira for several years on several machines, except for a short period when I tested Avast, since I was considering purchasing a family pack. (I gave up on Avast when I realized that despite 3 different users having reported the same bug in the v. 5 beta, Alwil had decided that we are not worth their trouble. I don't normally pay money to be treated with contempt, and don't quite trust a company which advertises a feature knowing full well that it doesn't work on a significant number of machines.) I am now running the free version of Avira 9 on two machines and the beta of Avira 10 on one. I have NEVER had a false positive on any release version of Avira, and the false positives I reported with one build of the beta were fixed in the next build 2 days later.
corrupt/failed often enormous updates (speaking of CPU usage, you ain't seen nothing yet)
I have never gotten a corrupt update. I have rarely had an update fail, and in those cases where it did it was always at the time of a major engine update, which apparently can overload the servers which they dedicate to free users. The problem always straightens itself out in a day or two. I have never had a CPU usage problem, despite the fact that I tend to run my machines so long that a respectable junk yard will no longer accept them.
the annoying splash screen at startup and the even more so annoying daily "begging" screens to purchase the full version.
My registry parameters are set to prevent my EVER seeing a splash screen, ad screen, or anything remotely related.
But no worries, mate..... the Avira support staff will promptly, courteously & professionally answer IGNORE your NUMEROUS DAILY FP queries!
As I said, my one FP report (2 or 3 FPs in the same beta build) were fixed in the next build 2 days later. As to other technical questions and problems which I posted on their support forums, they were always answered very quickly, courteously, and usefully by Avira staffers and/or other forum members.
A request: I have no objection to people disagreeing with me, but I would prefer not to be the target of fanboy nastiness, which I sometimes see on the this forum. Thanks for your consideration.
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Just my thoughts since I too once used Avira before shifting over to Avast. Just for balance.
For a free service from Avira, they do offer very limited coverage. The kind that I will have problems with. It basically does not have the kind of protection that the Free Avast offers. It lacks the Web Guard, the Email scanner, and Network Protection, Chat and even Peer to Peer shields. The free AV from Avira back then offers only basic anti spyware, and basic protection. While some will argue that the AV scans everything read and written in the PC the malware or virus is apprehended even before it can execute in the system. If the lack of features of the free product is a part of their marketing scheme, it sure does not leave a good impression if you ask me, as the paid version does not leave any form of guarantee that the additional features not present in the free version will work.
Not good enough though because prevention is still key. It still does allow it to get into the PC unlike Avast that it stops it even before the suspect file gets into the PC. This is very important.
As for the updates, one thing that really prevented me from ever going back to it: there is always a problem with their updates. I thought those were fixed as Avira claimed it will fix the problem. I still see their forums full of complains about it. Too much for someone getting something fixed. While other AVs do not have that the problem when more or less they have the same number of subscribers, I would not want to take chances on the way Avira do their updates. They continue to have those problems while other AVs don't. There were days that even the manual update failed. That was the last draw on my part. And no claiming of the very good heuristics protecting the PC will convince me that an AV missing the latest updates due to very inefficient servers will justify such situations.
As for the false positive... Well... I had one and it took them also a few weeks before they got it fixed. But after that, I did not bother with them.
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I don't use webshield, etc. Everything is filtered through the Proxomitron and running two proxies chained together reallly slows you down. I am not that happy with ANY AV program. I still have Avira on my host XP computer but it is version 8 that goes unsupported on March 31. I was a beta tester for them for three years until a week ago when they got upset because I mentioned I had put Avast on one of my virtual machines and they banned me from beta! Stunned me as I still have the beta on two other virtual machines (one running XP Pro and one running Win 7 RC and then the Vista one where I put Avast).
There is a thread in Avira forum currently about how mailguard and webguard are not needed and a Avira engineer (not one of the forum techs) states that webguard is necessary for protection because Guard is not updated as often or as quickly as webguard. That says to me that Avira should just get rid of the free version as they have admitted the protection is weak if you don't use webguard and ProActive which is their zero day protection available in the upcoming ver 10, BUT NOT available to the free users! It was learning this in beta that disgusted me. I started a thread in the beta forum about it and I suspect that was the real reason they decided to ban me from beta because I was very criticial of them leaving zero day protection out of the free version which has very trusting, naive users who really need that protection.
Me, I use ProcessGuard on XP for many years (the original classic HIPS) and on Vista I have the paid version of Online Armour which I use for its classic HIPS. That and the Proxomitron are my main defenses as antivirus programs don't do what I want and that is excellent, fast real time protection without the need for cumbersome things like webshield (guard as Avira calls it). I just use the basics in Avast realtime, on demand scanners and zero day protection.
When I first got Avira Jan 2007, on my first full scan it found 43 viruses! I had come from Kaspersky and the F-Prot for a couple of months and that was very unlikely considering I have never had a virus in over 10 years of having a computer. All 43 were False Positives. Since then I have gotten many FP's and I seldom run full scans on my host machine because of this and how hard it is to exclude in Avira. Avira detects a lot of systinternals programs as trojans and refuses to remove that detection. Then it detects all keygens including Jellybean and detected evID4226 patch for XP SP2 ...I mean...geez....Avira is known for high FP and that is how it rates so high detection wise and why AVComparatives penalizes it (and justly so). Avast used to have the same high FP rate but Avast has cleaned that up impressively and that is one reason I am using Avast on one virtual machine and may put it on the others soon.
Yes, you can violate the EULA and prevent Avira free ad screen but that is unethical. I, and others, have asked repeatedly over the years for Avira to make the ad smaller, make it show once a week, or make it static like Avast's but our comments fall on deaf ears.
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@ Cassy:
A request: I have no objection to people disagreeing with me, but I would prefer not to be the target of fanboy nastiness, which I sometimes see on the this forum. Thanks for your consideration.
1) Target? HUH??? My comments were directed toward the OP of the thread. AAMOF, I hadn't read your comment(s) and still haven't. How can you accuse me of disagreeing with something you wrote, without me having even quoted what you wrote or even READ what you wrote? If you're that thin skinned as to be "offended" by anonymous comments made on a public forum without any indication that the perceived (by you) "criticism(s)" were even DIRECTED to you, then that's on you. I criticized a product that you use and like.
Sue me.
2) The only person out of you and I who can even begin to be considered a "target" here is----I'll give you a hint: It's NOT YOU, as evidenced by---
"fanboy nastiness"
Now that sounds like one party making a direct attempt at slurring the other. Of course, it can only be considered an insult if the "sluree" were, you know, actually insulted by the "slurr-or".
I can assure you that I am not.
3) You're uhhh...welcome??? (Scratches head and wonders WTF? was that person THANKING me for???)
4) Don't bother responding. Or respond. Your choice, It's a great country that way. I'll not respond beyond this post to any more (feeble) attempts to draw me into a flame war. Had you limited your post to what you posted in defense of the PRODUCT, which was actually quite well written, we may have even started a useful dialog here. Stick to writing about the product, you're pretty good at it.
The personal mud-slinging? NOT SO MUCH.
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An interesting post, Union_Thug. As a matter of fact, nothing in those words of mine you quoted were intended to refer to you. In fact, they didn't refer at all to anything in this particular thread.
I'm glad that Vlk enjoys these threads as human documents. He'll love this one, if he sees it.
Vlk, did you ever read Moliere's defense of the line about the ribbon in L'Ecole des femmes? Or Baudelaire's attack on the judges in the Belgian edition of ales Epaves?
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@Cassy:
Mmm-Kay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cxNR9ML8k)
@VLK:
Is there an "ignore user's posts" easteregg hidden anywhere on this site?
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Me, I use ProcessGuard on XP for many years (the original classic HIPS) and on Vista I have the paid version of Online Armour which I use for its classic HIPS. That and the Proxomitron are my main defenses as antivirus programs don't do what I want and that is excellent, fast real time protection without the need for cumbersome things like webshield (guard as Avira calls it). I just use the basics in Avast realtime, on demand scanners and zero day protection.
In principle, my solution is the same as yours. I use the free MJ Regwatcher for HIPS, Avira and the free command line version of Asquared for daily scans, and Avira for background monitoring. I also use Proxomitron, a anti-malware hosts file, and some other odds and ends.
Mele, do you know the ready-made Proxo filters at http://www.buerschgens.de/Prox/ ? I find them very useful, though they mostly work through JavaScript.
Avira detects a lot of systinternals programs as trojans and refuses to remove that detection.
Odd. I have two or three small Sysinternals utilities, one of them open almost constantly, and Avira has never flagged any of them.
I suspect that one of the reasons I never get FPs with Avira, while others do, is the use I make of my systems. I never play computer games for example, and my software tends to be old and simple.
Yes, you can violate the EULA
Are there really words in the EULA saying that this is forbidden?
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God bless...
Hi...
Could we please watch the language? I'm an atheist. :)
The "I'm religious and I found your post offensive" card works both ways, pal. ;)
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Another topic going nowhere. ::)
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In principle, my solution is the same as yours. I use the free MJ Regwatcher for HIPS, Avira and the free command line version of Asquared for daily scans, and Avira for background monitoring. I also use Proxomitron, a anti-malware hosts file, and some other odds and ends.
Mele, do you know the ready-made Proxo filters at http://www.buerschgens.de/Prox/ ? I find them very useful, though they mostly work through JavaScript.
I had to use Google translate for that page. I may have used Avira for 3 plus years but I can't read or speak German! That's good there is an active German Proxo community. I use Sidki's 2/13/2009 filters. http://prxbx.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=44
The sysinternals detections (not on all sysinternals programs) depends on what you have checked for Extended Threat category but all the options there used to be checked by default with Avira. They changed that because of complaints of too many FP's. Still, most users will check all categories during installation.
I believe the EULA says you must not tamper with Avira which includes tampering with avnotify.exe. I have seen many posts in the forum, over three years, from both moderators and Avira technical support personnel assigned to the forum who all insist that it is illegal to tamper in any way with the ad. It was easy to tamper with it in versions 8 and previous but in version 9 Avira attempted to make it tamper proof and there are even more stringent methods used in version 10. That is not to say that there are no ways around it if one is really determined and more than an average user.
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Another topic going nowhere. ::)
Yup...
It figures...
Good thing I am not a moderator here. ;D
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I just read the EULA which came with my v.10 beta. It is almost certainly the same EULA which comes with all of the recent versions, since it is dated "1 July 2006". Even if we ignore any questions about its contractual validity if the end user attempts to validate the contract outside of Germany, there is not even the slightest hint of such a prohibition, or any prohibition even remotely like it, effective on the end user or anyone else on Earth. If you can find such a prohibition, please quote it and cite a source which someone could at least claim is contractually or otherwise legally binding. If not, please cite some legal source which would suggest that it would be illegal to block the execution of avnotify.exe in most jurisdictions. (Many people live in neither the USA nor Germany.) In fact, I'd like to see some binding law which would prohibit such a block even in the USA or Germany.
A few years ago, a giant software company was "known" all over the internet to be claiming that a certain type of tampering with their software is illegal. They were even suing a certain shareware company over the question. The prohibition looked to me to be legally problematic, to say the least. I eventually got some big-shot lawyer of theirs on the phone and asked. After a dead silence, he answered that it's not really illegal, but that as a favor to him I shouldn't say that he said so.
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I believe the EULA says you must not tamper with Avira which includes tampering with avnotify.exe. I have seen many posts in the forum, over three years, from both moderators and Avira technical support personnel assigned to the forum who all insist that it is illegal to tamper in any way with the ad. It was easy to tamper with it in versions 8 and previous but in version 9 Avira attempted to make it tamper proof and there are even more stringent methods used in version 10. That is not to say that there are no ways around it if one is really determined and more than an average user.
This is precisely the reason I use avast!
@ Cassy
If you and Mele20 want to discuss Avira's EULA why not do it on Avira's forum ???
Ask yourselves how many users here use Proxomitron never mind have even heard of it. ::)
I have heard of Proxomitron and its not for the average user and a few expert system users may be able to figure it out after several day's time of trial-an-error usage:
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well, i have been using avast for a long time. no problems ever. downloaded the new database sometime last week, not sure when, just heard the "virus database" updated voice, and soon afterwards, my computer started eating up ram. system slowed to a snail's pace. well, after suffering for a week trying to figure it out, i finally restored my system back prior to that d/l and everything went back to normal. soon after d/l auto again, same snail's pace. when i got my computer's system back, after an hour or so and much holding back my fist into my monitor, i uninstalled avast. no probs since. i reinstalled avg, sorry to say, and will continue using it until i get a firm reassurance that my computer will not be repeating the snail routine with avast. i'll check back from time to time to see if this prob has been resolved. thanks for the past virus-free protection avast and hopefully will again install it, problem free. not sure which version i had, i know it updates automatically with new database ... the voice reminds me of it. :) ...
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well, i have been using avast for a long time. no problems ever. downloaded the new database sometime last week, not sure when, just heard the "virus database" updated voice, and soon afterwards, my computer started eating up ram. system slowed to a snail's pace. well, after suffering for a week trying to figure it out, i finally restored my system back prior to that d/l and everything went back to normal. soon after d/l auto again, same snail's pace. when i got my computer's system back, after an hour or so and much holding back my fist into my monitor, i uninstalled avast. no probs since. i reinstalled avg, sorry to say, and will continue using it until i get a firm reassurance that my computer will not be repeating the snail routine with avast. i'll check back from time to time to see if this prob has been resolved. thanks for the past virus-free protection avast and hopefully will again install it, problem free. not sure which version i had, i know it updates automatically with new database ... the voice reminds me of it. :) ...
Oh My Gosh :o Have you not been reading what the Avast Evangelists have been saying for the past 2 months. Their is nothing wrong with Avast 5...it is your computer !! Their are millions using it with no problems it is your computer. All you have to do is un-install jump through a bunch of hoops in save mode that is. Then re-install and it will be working fine. If you do this once or twice a week Avast 5 will work fine for you. Why do you always want the easy way.....Why would you think it should work like it has for years....just install and work.....why would you want that.
Yes it is really sad....I was a happy Avast user for many years to. At 1st I thought they would get 5 working in no time....now I really wonder. Seem to feel it is working fine on enough machines so that is good enough. That isn`t what got them to the top.....but it is what has toppled many corps. these days. Time will tell.....wish it was the old days when I went around telling everyone to use Avast. I also do wonder where all these people are that are using it ? Less than a few months ago I knew no one using anything but Avast. Now I know no one using it. Quit a change in a few months. Here is to hope someday 5 is as good or better then 4.8........Peter
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And yet you stay. Why is that?
Is it because you see us migrate to the new release wit no problem at all.
My friend here, all the same.
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well, i have been using avast for a long time. no problems ever. downloaded the new database sometime last week, not sure when, just heard the "virus database" updated voice, and soon afterwards, my computer started eating up ram. system slowed to a snail's pace. well, after suffering for a week trying to figure it out, i finally restored my system back prior to that d/l and everything went back to normal. soon after d/l auto again, same snail's pace. when i got my computer's system back, after an hour or so and much holding back my fist into my monitor, i uninstalled avast. no probs since. i reinstalled avg, sorry to say, and will continue using it until i get a firm reassurance that my computer will not be repeating the snail routine with avast. i'll check back from time to time to see if this prob has been resolved. thanks for the past virus-free protection avast and hopefully will again install it, problem free. not sure which version i had, i know it updates automatically with new database ... the voice reminds me of it. :) ...
Oh My Gosh :o Have you not been reading what the Avast Evangelists have been saying for the past 2 months. Their is nothing wrong with Avast 5...it is your computer !! Their are millions using it with no problems it is your computer. All you have to do is un-install jump through a bunch of hoops in save mode that is. Then re-install and it will be working fine. If you do this once or twice a week Avast 5 will work fine for you. Why do you always want the easy way.....Why would you think it should work like it has for years....just install and work.....why would you want that.
Yes it is really sad....I was a happy Avast user for many years to. At 1st I thought they would get 5 working in no time....now I really wonder. Seem to feel it is working fine on enough machines so that is good enough. That isn`t what got them to the top.....but it is what has toppled many corps. these days. Time will tell.....wish it was the old days when I went around telling everyone to use Avast. I also do wonder where all these people are that are using it ? Less than a few months ago I knew no one using anything but Avast. Now I know no one using it. Quit a change in a few months. Here is to hope someday 5 is as good or better then 4.8........Peter
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Hi nothing wrong with avast in fact got new computer with antivirus installed on it computer slow because i am on a doggle which is wire free.
Uninstalled the one that was on it put avast on and now computer up and running fast and also no crashes or slowness.
I swear by avast and i let everyone i know all about it so as someone as told you got to be your machine not avast.
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well, i have been using avast for a long time. no problems ever. downloaded the new database sometime last week, not sure when, just heard the "virus database" updated voice, and soon afterwards, my computer started eating up ram. system slowed to a snail's pace. well, after suffering for a week trying to figure it out, i finally restored my system back prior to that d/l and everything went back to normal. soon after d/l auto again, same snail's pace. when i got my computer's system back, after an hour or so and much holding back my fist into my monitor, i uninstalled avast. no probs since. i reinstalled avg, sorry to say, and will continue using it until i get a firm reassurance that my computer will not be repeating the snail routine with avast. i'll check back from time to time to see if this prob has been resolved. thanks for the past virus-free protection avast and hopefully will again install it, problem free. not sure which version i had, i know it updates automatically with new database ... the voice reminds me of it. :) ...
Oh My Gosh :o Have you not been reading what the Avast Evangelists have been saying for the past 2 months. Their is nothing wrong with Avast 5...it is your computer !! Their are millions using it with no problems it is your computer. All you have to do is un-install jump through a bunch of hoops in save mode that is. Then re-install and it will be working fine. If you do this once or twice a week Avast 5 will work fine for you. Why do you always want the easy way.....Why would you think it should work like it has for years....just install and work.....why would you want that.
Yes it is really sad....I was a happy Avast user for many years to. At 1st I thought they would get 5 working in no time....now I really wonder. Seem to feel it is working fine on enough machines so that is good enough. That isn`t what got them to the top.....but it is what has toppled many corps. these days. Time will tell.....wish it was the old days when I went around telling everyone to use Avast. I also do wonder where all these people are that are using it ? Less than a few months ago I knew no one using anything but Avast. Now I know no one using it. Quit a change in a few months. Here is to hope someday 5 is as good or better then 4.8........Peter
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Obviously some people are having problems with Avast 5. People having problems have something in or connected to their PC's causing a conflict with Avast 5. Avast 5 plus some yet unknown variable(s) is causing these problems. ALWIL can't fix what they cant see! People with performance related problems need to do some leg work themselves.
Have you tried disconnecting all non essential external devices? Have you tried disabling all non essential hardware devices in control panel one at a time while Avast is running to see if a device driver has a conflict with Avast? To test for a video driver conflict it would be necessary to uninstall the driver and use windows defaults. Have you tried disabling all non essential drivers and software excluding Avast and MS services in msconfig.
Note: Not all PC users can handle the above task. If you can't you can't. I would guess enough people should be able to handle the above with or without assistance to help get these problems fixed. Once ALWIL knows the cause(s) a fix will come out. Either from ALWIL or the hardware or software manufacture that is causing the problem.
IMO people having problems with Avast 5 need to do what it takes to get a fix. If a person is unwilling to do anything but complain do not even post in this forums for help. All it does is make it harder to help people that really want help. Sometimes I wonder if some of these posts are from AVG/Avira trolls.
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You know you're a fanboy/fangirl if...
everybody else is just plain wrong. Those idiots. --Alan Stafford, via our Facebook page
you check the Wikipedia page of your favorite product every couple of hours to ensure that no unfair, unsubstantiated, and deeply hurtful comments have been added to the entry and are now just sitting there unchallenged. --Steven Gray, PC World
you've experienced feelings of sexual arousal during new product demonstrations. --Mark Sullivan, PC World
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I resent being called a fan boy simply because something works for me, although I am not an Avast Evangelists, but considering I have always been saying here that I never really had issues with Avast. It only goes to show that people who say these things are either disgruntled or they really do not know what they are saying. Read: Sour Grapers!!!
For one, my PCs, work with Avast 5. It performs very well. The only time I ever had problems with Avast was that when it was still bloated, which got fixed by 4.8.1368 and the update fiasco which turned almost everything into false positives, but that was still with Avast 4.8.
Now if I say I have never seen any problems with Avast 5.0 ever since having it, am I therefore a fan boy? I think not. It is basically with experience the same reason why I say it. When I read issues with Avast 5.0, specially with those using Windows 7 and Windows XP SP3, I cannot help but wonder, why am I not having the same problem? If there is really something wrong with Avast 5.0 then by all means all Windows XP SP3 PCs should experience the problem, same with Windows 7 and Windows Vista.
Read again: All of us install stuff in the PC. This is where we all differ. I basically know how to take care of my PC and thus do know what I put into it. To say that one thing doesn't work in another machine simply because it is using Windows XP SP3, hey, look at your machine. When others with the same OS is not experiencing it, it simply means one thing: you have placed something in that machine that causes the program to behave like that. It would be worth it your time and Alwil to tell them what is in your PC instead of grumbling here and there and calling everyone not having the problem as fan boys or fan girls.
The mature way to go about this is to check which programs are in the machines that work well and check it with yours. Too bad, most of the people who say those that do not have problems are fan boys does not follow this attitude. It gives me the impression that they are sour grapers.
For those who think we who do not have problems with Avast as Fan boys: GROW UP!!!
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well, i have been using avast for a long time. no problems ever. downloaded the new database sometime last week, not sure when, just heard the "virus database" updated voice, and soon afterwards, my computer started eating up ram. system slowed to a snail's pace. well, after suffering for a week trying to figure it out, i finally restored my system back prior to that d/l and everything went back to normal. soon after d/l auto again, same snail's pace. when i got my computer's system back, after an hour or so and much holding back my fist into my monitor, i uninstalled avast. no probs since. i reinstalled avg, sorry to say, and will continue using it until i get a firm reassurance that my computer will not be repeating the snail routine with avast. i'll check back from time to time to see if this prob has been resolved. thanks for the past virus-free protection avast and hopefully will again install it, problem free. not sure which version i had, i know it updates automatically with new database ... the voice reminds me of it. :) ...
Oh My Gosh :o Have you not been reading what the Avast Evangelists have been saying for the past 2 months. Their is nothing wrong with Avast 5...it is your computer !! Their are millions using it with no problems it is your computer. All you have to do is un-install jump through a bunch of hoops in save mode that is. Then re-install and it will be working fine. If you do this once or twice a week Avast 5 will work fine for you. Why do you always want the easy way.....Why would you think it should work like it has for years....just install and work.....why would you want that.
Yes it is really sad....I was a happy Avast user for many years to. At 1st I thought they would get 5 working in no time....now I really wonder. Seem to feel it is working fine on enough machines so that is good enough. That isn`t what got them to the top.....but it is what has toppled many corps. these days. Time will tell.....wish it was the old days when I went around telling everyone to use Avast. I also do wonder where all these people are that are using it ? Less than a few months ago I knew no one using anything but Avast. Now I know no one using it. Quit a change in a few months. Here is to hope someday 5 is as good or better then 4.8........Peter
On a Windows XP SP3 with 1 Gb of RAM, with 2 HDDs 40 Gb each, I can do a full system scan in 25 minutes. So isn't that an improvement over 4.8 which takes it almost an hour to finish. And the PC is not sluggish since the AV does not use so much CPU power as well as memory. And take note, my PC has a Pentium 4 1.8 Ghz and it hums like a pro. It is way faster on my main machine (whose specs are in my signature).
Almost everyone I know uses Avast 5.0. So how then ours works and yours doesn't? Bad product? Oh well... I doubt. It is your machine perhaps. I need not say more.
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You know you're a fanboy/fangirl if...
everybody else is just plain wrong. Those idiots. --Alan Stafford, via our Facebook page
you check the Wikipedia page of your favorite product every couple of hours to ensure that no unfair, unsubstantiated, and deeply hurtful comments have been added to the entry and are now just sitting there unchallenged. --Steven Gray, PC World
you've experienced feelings of sexual arousal during new product demonstrations. --Mark Sullivan, PC World
You can call me a fanboy if I can call you a troll. I know and you know some people are having problems with Avast 5. Either help fix it or GTFO.
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Seem to feel it is working fine on enough machines so that is good enough. That isn`t what got them to the top
Yes, that's the point.
Judging by what has happened to similar companies in similar situations, this is how the story will continue. (I am getting good and clear signals from my crystal ball.):
A year or two or three down the road, some people in the company's management will notice that they are rapidly losing market share. Management will (continue to) blame the stupid customer. In fact, judging what has happened to some other companies, they will go into a 'death spiral' where they will almost intentionally allow customer service to get worse and worse while refusing to consider any changes in the product. (Try hitting something like http://www.google.com/search?q="death+spiral"+"market+share" . You'll see some interesting names.)
And noone at the company will care. The highest levels of management will either continue to get amazing salaries or take their golden parachutes and go on to other companies, while many of the lower and middle level employees will lose their jobs in one way or another and will blame economic conditions. The actual owners of the company, whoever they are, will probably lose some money, and some of them will both care and understand why, but they will not have the power to change anything.
Is there anyone else here old enough to remember when almost the entire AV market was owned by two companies called Symantec and McAfee? Even in the tiny Asian country where I've been parking my bones for the last few decades, EVERYONE was using AV software by one or the other (or none at all). I don't know anyone here who is using theirs now, and my impression is that in the big, developed markets, they are competing desperately against such names as Alwil, Avira, and ESET, which noone there had heard of then.
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;) the only people who post their problem here is the people who have conflict with some other program, instead of asking help they put the bad side effect of software conflict but who knows maybe they don't really use the product and the intention is to ruin the mind of real avast user. but they only few compare to real user out there that do not have any problem or conflict with the software ;)
First off Mr. Bong, I am not slamming Avast, I have only discussed this program here, on this forum, and with other Computer nerds I hang out with. Avast is still the top recommendation on my website.
I am an owner of a computer repair shop, and an installation tech, I make a living off of computers, and I know what I am doing.
Second, I did ask for help, I was under the impression that this was the place to ask. I searched for the problem I was having, and posted under that thread.
Third, yes there are only a few of us. Since I have had this problem I have installed Avast on 6 other systems, and mine is the only one that has had this problem. It's still a problem.
Is this how well this forum is moderated? New members are berated by fanboys that think everyone that has a problem is just an idiot?
I'm still working on the problem on my end. I believe it is hardware related, but I have to do some more testing to know one way or another. It doesn't seem to matter what is running at startup. I have some video I am working on getting up, you know so the fanboys can critique it to pieces.
Fats
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People stating that there is nothing wrong with AVAST 5 and it is something wrong with our systems are indeed fanboys.
I have had the same system with no changes other than Avast 5 and it is now my computer's fault???!!! Give me a break and wake up.
I am now downgrading to Avast 4.8 and getting my speed back.
Multitasking with Avast 5 is a nightmare and I have a quad core QX6700 now at 100% to jsut load a webpage.
Avast 5 should still beta and will be turning a lot of people away from this product.
I am not longer promoting it on my website till it gets fixed.
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I quit AVAST for their crazy policy. They developed AVAST 5 using brand new computers from the start point. The vast majority of us are using OLDER computers 2-3 even 8 years old. All other AV softwares work fine. AVAST 5 won't. Should we all send money to the NEW PC industry to quench AILWIL new TASTE for extravaganza!!! ???
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Maybe your avast has been damaged.you can try to heavy it again.Good lucks to you.
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I quit AVAST for their crazy policy. They developed AVAST 5 using brand new computers from the start point. The vast majority of us are using OLDER computers 2-3 even 8 years old. All other AV softwares work fine. AVAST 5 won't. Should we all send money to the NEW PC industry to quench AILWIL new TASTE for extravaganza!!! ???
Yes,exactly! Please note the quoted post was from a long time,respected member of your forum,and not a upset newbie with a hosed computer,curtsy of Avast 5,such as myself.
I do not care if 1 out of 100 have a problem(s) with your software.
MY problem still exists!!
Avira lacks a hell of a lot being perfect,but it is so far ahead of Avast!,
that it amounts to the same thing!!
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I quit AVAST for their crazy policy. They developed AVAST 5 using brand new computers from the start point. The vast majority of us are using OLDER computers 2-3 even 8 years old. All other AV softwares work fine. AVAST 5 won't. Should we all send money to the NEW PC industry to quench AILWIL new TASTE for extravaganza!!! ???
That is patently rubbish, as the resources for avast 5.0 are effectively lighter than 4.8, so it should work on the same hardware that 4.8 worked on as many many users are happily doing; or this forum would be lit up like a Christmas tree if this problem were across the board.
If this isn't the case for you then there is something wrong, given the mix of security software software according to your signature, it might be might be introducing a conflict, I just don't know.
Why it is happening to some using avast 5.0 is beyond me. What is sure is that for those that it is impacting, it is a serious problem and one that many feel they can't live with in the current condition.
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I quit AVAST for their crazy policy. They developed AVAST 5 using brand new computers from the start point. The vast majority of us are using OLDER computers 2-3 even 8 years old. All other AV softwares work fine. AVAST 5 won't. Should we all send money to the NEW PC industry to quench AILWIL new TASTE for extravaganza!!! ???
That is patently rubbish, as the resources for avast 5.0 are effectively lighter than 4.8, so it should work on the same hardware that 4.8 worked on as many many users are happily doing; or this forum would be lit up like a Christmas tree if this problem were across the board.
If this isn't the case for you then there is something wrong, given the mix of security software software according to your signature, it might be might be introducing a conflict, I just don't know.
Why it is happening to some using avast 5.0 is beyond me. What is sure is that for those that it is impacting, it is a serious problem and one that many feel they can't live with in the current condition.
You assume of course all of these potential millions with problems, know the location to these obscure Forums,rather than blaming their on lack of knowledge,and striking out blindly to find an answer?
I admire your loyalty,but it proves nothing.
Rather,I propose those most likely to report their problems on this forum,are those most likely to be able to troubleshoot their own issues!!
While the bulk of those suffering from Alwil incompetence,do so without guidance.
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I quit AVAST for their crazy policy. They developed AVAST 5 using brand new computers from the start point. The vast majority of us are using OLDER computers 2-3 even 8 years old. All other AV softwares work fine. AVAST 5 won't. Should we all send money to the NEW PC industry to quench AILWIL new TASTE for extravaganza!!! ???
I'd like to point out that I'm using a Compaq Presario 722 US laptop with an AMD (Duron) Processor @ 1.1 GHz and 352 MB of RAM and I haven't noticed my computer running any slower on Avast! 5 than when I was running Avast! 4.8.
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I quit AVAST for their crazy policy. They developed AVAST 5 using brand new computers from the start point. The vast majority of us are using OLDER computers 2-3 even 8 years old. All other AV softwares work fine. AVAST 5 won't. Should we all send money to the NEW PC industry to quench AILWIL new TASTE for extravaganza!!! ???
I'd like to point out that I'm using a Compaq Presario 722 US laptop with an AMD (Duron) Processor @ 1.1 GHz and 352 MB of RAM and I haven't noticed my computer running any slower on Avast! 5 than when I was running Avast! 4.8.
Have you noticed it running any faster?
That is the Alwil party line.
Avast! 5 is lighter than 4.8.
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I quit AVAST for their crazy policy. They developed AVAST 5 using brand new computers from the start point. The vast majority of us are using OLDER computers 2-3 even 8 years old. All other AV softwares work fine. AVAST 5 won't. Should we all send money to the NEW PC industry to quench AILWIL new TASTE for extravaganza!!! ???
"All" other AV software works fine? Have you actually confirmed that?
If you want to see how little of your computer's resources Avast uses compared to others popular AV's, install something like Norton 360 or Kasperky Security Suite on your older machine(s) for a few days.. Your appreciation of how little resources are used by Avast in comparison to most other brands should be renewed in no time. ;D
Cheers...
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I quit AVAST for their crazy policy. They developed AVAST 5 using brand new computers from the start point. The vast majority of us are using OLDER computers 2-3 even 8 years old. All other AV softwares work fine. AVAST 5 won't. Should we all send money to the NEW PC industry to quench AILWIL new TASTE for extravaganza!!! ???
I'd like to point out that I'm using a Compaq Presario 722 US laptop with an AMD (Duron) Processor @ 1.1 GHz and 352 MB of RAM and I haven't noticed my computer running any slower on Avast! 5 than when I was running Avast! 4.8.
Have you noticed it running any faster?
That is the Alwil party line.
Avast! 5 is lighter than 4.8.
I'm not sure if it is or not, I really can't seem to tell a difference either way, but I can tell you that it scans my system faster on a full thorough scan than 4.8 did.
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I quit AVAST for their crazy policy. They developed AVAST 5 using brand new computers from the start point. The vast majority of us are using OLDER computers 2-3 even 8 years old. All other AV softwares work fine. AVAST 5 won't. Should we all send money to the NEW PC industry to quench AILWIL new TASTE for extravaganza!!! ???
"All" other AV software works fine? Have you actually confirmed that?
If you want to see how little of your computer's resources Avast uses compared to others popular AV's, install something like Norton 360 or Kasperky Security Suite on your older machine(s) for a few days.. Your appreciation of how little resources are used by Avast in comparison to most other brands should be renewed in no time. ;D
Cheers...
Just for clarification: You are saying Avast5 uses less RAM and CPU than Avira 9?
You have task manager screenshots to prove that?
Please do not go into the "Avast provides more shields than Avira"!!
The only Shields that really matter, are the standard, and the Web Shield.
Avira free does not provide a web shield,and Avast! 5's is unworkable.
And what relevance is a comparison of Kaspersky Security SUITE,with Avast free? or paid AV?
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You assume of course all of these potential millions with problems, know the location to these obscure Forums,rather than blaming their on lack of knowledge,and striking out blindly to find an answer?
I admire your loyalty,but it proves nothing.
Rather,I propose those most likely to report their problems on this forum,are those most likely to be able to troubleshoot their own issues!!
While the bulk of those suffering from Alwil incompetence,do so without guidance.
I assume nothing, I see it in the forums if there is a serious issue believe me it does light up and very fast. Like some time ago when a VPS update in one particular virus signature was released late one night, without it first having been run against the white list to ensure it was OK (against) and it caused the worst False Positive occurrence I have seen in avast. They all managed to find the forums and most of them were first time posters.
Loyalty my ass, I don't work for Alwil but am just an avast user for six years and if I find something wrong I'm not known to hold back. Perhaps I have been lucky for the last six years where I haven't had a serious problem with avast even when beta testing. But if there is something which I can see is wrong I speak out about it I follow no party line.
Where have you seen me blame the user for a lack of knowledge. As for striking out blindly I haven't been following gdiloren problem, if he has posted it in another topic, my response was based only on the post I quoted. So I only mentioned what I saw in his post and signature.
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Just for clarification: You are saying Avast5 uses less RAM and CPU than Avira 9?[/quote]
Where on earth did you get Avira out of what I wrote? lol.. I actually said nothing about Avira 9 or any other versions of it. I tried Avira once a year or two ago on one of my home machines and hated its interface (personal preference) so it didn't last more than a few days on my machine.
I"m talking about well known mainstream AV brands which is what I would normally compare a product against.
You have task manager screenshots to prove that?
Oh please.. do you have screenshots to dis-prove it? I didn't claim anything of the sort when it comes to Avira as I don't really know one way or the other. Perhaps I didn't realise that this was meant to be an Avira vs Avast type thread. :D
Please do not go into the "Avast provides more shields than Avira"!!
The only Shields that really matter, are the standard, and the Web Shield.
That's a pretty big statement you're making there Bootstrap. On what basis can you make a statement like that? What's totally unimportant to you might be exactly what someone else is looking for and needs.
Avira free does not provide a web shield,and Avast! 5's is unworkable.
Then I have a total of 14 workstations here running an unworkable antivirus then. I must be some sort of magician. ;D
And what relevance is a comparison of Kaspersky Security SUITE,with Avast free? or paid AV?
Computer performance during active real time protection by a proven well performing (protection wise) product is the relavence - something that would be important to just about anyone that enjoys speed, which in my opinion, would take in just about all commputer users in general. The two I mentioned, Norton and Kaspersky, are proven peformers, both with respectable scores on independant AV comparison tests I've read in the past.. both however can also, and do, grind a computer's performance down to frustrating levels. This I know from personal past experience, which is why I chose those two as my examples. Avast on the other hand, hardly makes a difference to a computers performance at all in my experience, apart from when it's doing a full scan or updating itself.
I thought your complaint was that Avast 5 was made on super fast new computers and therefore unworkable on older machines? That hasn't been my experience with the product at all.
Cheers...
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Please do not go into the "Avast provides more shields than Avira"!!
The only Shields that really matter, are the standard, and the Web Shield.
Avira free does not provide a web shield,and Avast! 5's is unworkable.
I had only the standard and behavior shields installed and everything was fine. Then I installed all other shields and my system(w2k) was so bogged down it was unusable. Restored from known clean image- install avast5 with only the two shields running-no issues.
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andrewlen:
"I thought your complaint was that Avast 5 was made on super fast new computers and therefore unworkable on older machines? That hasn't been my experience with the product at all."
Yes,that is part of it,my compliant also included the lack of validity of comparing the RAM/CPU use of a full Suite such as Kasperkey's,with a basic Av such as Avast!.
(would you care to compare the same resource use between Avast! free and its Suite?)
Do I have screenshots? Why no,I do not.
Nor am I the one stating:
"If you want to see how little of your computer's resources Avast uses compared to others popular AV's, install something like Norton 360 or Kasperky Security Suite on your older machine(s) for a few days.. Your appreciation of how little resources are used by Avast in comparison to most other brands should be renewed in no time. Grin"
The Kaspersky Suite reference is comparing main battle rifles to assault rifles,and Avira is at least as relevant (popular) as Norton 360.
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two fresh installs today
avast! free in laptop which appeared to have broke IE (no favicons / logos would render on IE8 pages) so happy people left with Chrome doing the business and sparkly fresh v.5 running like a dream.
Also another laptop now loaded with Security Suite on my advice, after my successful over install of avast! free. This time I uninstalled v.4.8 prior to clean installing the Suite. Remarkable. The owners were going to go free version, but now looks like they will opt for the x3 Internet Security Suite, which is appealing as an ideal family package. They have a desktop they share with the kids, and now have to decide between another laptop, or another desktop. I have to pop over sometime and upgrade the avast! free on the old desktop, something I am enjoying immensely. It doesn't matter which is the best antivirus really. Avast v.5 is good enough for us and that's all that matters.
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It doesn't matter which is the best antivirus really. Avast v.5 is good enough for us and that's all that matters.
Now, that is a honorable and truthful answer!!
(for Us=you and buddies)
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I have downgraded to 4.8 and my computer is back to being fast and finally able to multi-task without throwing my cpu up to 100%.
I won't be going up for a while. Anyone saying Avast 5 is faster is full of bull. It should still be in beta. When I have to restart my computer every two hours so it doesn't max out my cpu opening up a webpage, then something is wrong.
I am a power user and I don't like getting the newest AV to get a downgrade in performance. That's what had me walk away from AVG.
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oh sort out yr computer, will you, I'm sick of this drek
do v.4.8 if you want, its yr computer, just dont come here if you dont need help
or go do a do a computer course or something
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Well...
To those saying that we who do not have problems with Avast 5.0 are fanboys, well think again SOUR GRAPERS....
I know what is in my PC and I know how it works. If you guys claim you know what you guys are doing just because you know how to tinker around with your machines, then by all means, GO BACK TO SCHOOL because clearly you know nothing about your machines since you guys cannot even pin point what the heck is wrong with it. Oh sure... Blame the new software installed. The question is, what is in your PC in the first place that made the new software react? Ever thought of that geniuses who lack neurons? It is not only you guys who knows how to use that argument. I do play around with the PC and its OS for a living. So two can play that game. If one thing doesn't work on the other machine, it clearly does not have anything to do with the OS. Rather what is in the PC because if it is the OS... Duh!!! Then everyone should have the same problem.
As for the bloke using a crystal ball... Well... You are just good at that... Stare at your crystal ball because for all you know you will learn something out of it... Perhaps your crystal ball can magnify your brain and show you that in reality it is really just so small you might even need an electron microscope to see it.
A lot of those stuff against people who do not have issues with Avast are rubbish. For one, they cannot posts something technical worth looking into. We sure have a lot of trolls in the Forum these days.
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So I am a full of bull? Simply because it works on my Pentium 4 1.8 Ghz machine and in my main machine (stats in my sig).
I can play games with my Pentium 4, while Avast is running in the background. And these are online games. Also, I can play music with it, and the CPU is not even eaten up. Checking the task manager, if it gets maxed out, not because of Avast but rather a processor intensive program is using it.
The question is what is in your PC that makes it that way. Funny how you consider others full of bull just because it doesn't work for you. Ei buddy... YOU ARE NOT THE BIBLE with technology. It doesn't mean if it doesn't work in your machine, it is the general law of the universe already.
For a power user like you, I definitely find you very amusing. More like a bloated user if you ask me. Power users are more or less scientific in their approach to problems with the PC. They use logic and technical skills. In your case, better upgrade your cognitive faculties as it is showing already you are from the era of 386 PCs. Make yourself useful.. Post something relevant instead of garbage.
I have downgraded to 4.8 and my computer is back to being fast and finally able to multi-task without throwing my cpu up to 100%.
I won't be going up for a while. Anyone saying Avast 5 is faster is full of bull. It should still be in beta. When I have to restart my computer every two hours so it doesn't max out my cpu opening up a webpage, then something is wrong.
I am a power user and I don't like getting the newest AV to get a downgrade in performance. That's what had me walk away from AVG.
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In your case, better upgrade your cognitive faculties as it is showing already you are from the era of 386 PCs. Make yourself useful.. Post something relevant instead of garbage.
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This goes both ways my fan-boy friend......A friend of mine the other day asked me if Avast 5 was working for me. I said no I had a lot of problems with 5 when it 1st came out. Went to their forum and just got blown off because I was mad and not a fan-boy. Basically told 5 was working fine for them so must be what is on my machine. As you know my machine is brand new win.7 64 machine with nothing on it but Photoshop. I went back to 4.8 and it is working perfectly. I still see people with problems on the forum so now I`m thinking of MSE. Why are you having problems ? Yes upgraded to 5 and it keeps freezing up and says I`m uncovered. Have you tried reloading ? Yes twice....did the clean in safe mode and everything. Have you tried the forum ? Ya right went there and lurked for a while.....no way I`m going on there and get abused by a bunch of fanboys......That is a true story my friend....yep keep up the good work Mikos...your really giving Avast a good name.....
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@ PAL10
How many avast! users use Adobe Photoshop CS4 with a cost of US$699?
How many avast! users do photo editing like you do?
I'm not going to become a fanboy of Adobe Photoshop CS4 for sure.
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In your case, better upgrade your cognitive faculties as it is showing already you are from the era of 386 PCs. Make yourself useful.. Post something relevant instead of garbage.
This goes both ways my fan-boy friend......A friend of mine the other day asked me if Avast 5 was working for me. I said no I had a lot of problems with 5 when it 1st came out. Went to their forum and just got blown off because I was mad and not a fan-boy. Basically told 5 was working fine for them so must be what is on my machine. As you know my machine is brand new win.7 64 machine with nothing on it but Photoshop. I went back to 4.8 and it is working perfectly. I still see people with problems on the forum so now I`m thinking of MSE. Why are you having problems ? Yes upgraded to 5 and it keeps freezing up and says I`m uncovered. Have you tried reloading ? Yes twice....did the clean in safe mode and everything. Have you tried the forum ? Ya right went there and lurked for a while.....no way I`m going on there and get abused by a bunch of fanboys......That is a true story my friend....yep keep up the good work Mikos...your really giving Avast a good name.....
The times that I've needed to delve into the forums for support, I've found that the people who actually work for Avast are quite professional and courteous. It's only the fanboys that ruin this place, who for the most part alternate between giving out bad info and flame fests (as has been thoroughly demonstrated in this thread). It would behoove Avast to rein them in, least their corporate identity get tainted. My suggestion is that anyone who actually gains "Evangelist" status be limited to a few posts per day, with the suggestion that they find something useful to do with their life.
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@ faust
One does not progress from being a Newbie like you to Jr. Member like PAL10 without posting something.
The forum here is for posting experiences and if you perceive that we "Evangelists" are fanboys then I guess there is no way for you to become an avast! Überevangelist like DavidR.
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I am not a fan boy my friend. Granting your PC only has Windows 7 x64 and Photoshop, and you still experience the problem, to say that it is Avast, and yet it works for other PCs with the same OS will still point to your machine. The idea that it is only the OS being present and Photoshop is actually a misnomer as Windows 7 alone does have a lot of things in it already. I would have checked what component like drivers, or other components that may work with Avast 4.8 yet it runs contrary to 5.0. An OS is not really just the OS per se as we all have different PCs. It does contain drivers and other stuff depending on what is in our computers. I would have had a changed perception if you have been more analytical about your response. But it turns out, it is not.
Our computers are different from each other depending on how we build them or how we set them up. To entirely blame the software without logically tracing where the problem is the way of those who do not use their cognitive faculties in trying to resolve the problem. Of course there is always an easy way out which is to remove the software and just change it to something that works immediately. But to simply say "hey fix your software" without giving the details in what is in your PC is rather futile for either the one having the problem or the one trying to fix it.
So now, who needs to upgrade what my fan boy friend?
In your case, better upgrade your cognitive faculties as it is showing already you are from the era of 386 PCs. Make yourself useful.. Post something relevant instead of garbage.
This goes both ways my fan-boy friend......A friend of mine the other day asked me if Avast 5 was working for me. I said no I had a lot of problems with 5 when it 1st came out. Went to their forum and just got blown off because I was mad and not a fan-boy. Basically told 5 was working fine for them so must be what is on my machine. As you know my machine is brand new win.7 64 machine with nothing on it but Photoshop. I went back to 4.8 and it is working perfectly. I still see people with problems on the forum so now I`m thinking of MSE. Why are you having problems ? Yes upgraded to 5 and it keeps freezing up and says I`m uncovered. Have you tried reloading ? Yes twice....did the clean in safe mode and everything. Have you tried the forum ? Ya right went there and lurked for a while.....no way I`m going on there and get abused by a bunch of fanboys......That is a true story my friend....yep keep up the good work Mikos...your really giving Avast a good name.....
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Now why would they do that? It is the active members that really gain an understanding on the product that they deal with.
The problem here is that people perceive those that do not experience problems with the software as fan boys. This is entirely unfair. Just because it does not happen to them and they say that they are already fan boys. This is the same as putting words in their mouth. As I have stated before, if it does not work in your machine, then it is about time you check your machine because it works with those who have the same OS. Our computers are not exactly alike as we use different video cards, different software, different peripherals... Etc. The analytical way to resolving such problems would be to inform the one who will come up with a solution what is in one's PC.
I am not discounting the fact that a problem can occur in other computers of the same OS. I am simply pointing out that for people to call us fan boys just because we say we do not have problems with the software in question is way out of line. There is clearly a wrong predilection of thinking here. We are not fan boys and we do not intend to. People who do not clearly analyze their situations are merely sour grapers. There is an intelligent way to deal with this and sadly not too many are too keen on it... I guess those who call us as fan boys should start using what is between their shoulders, and stop demonstrating that what is between their ears is just full of air.
In your case, better upgrade your cognitive faculties as it is showing already you are from the era of 386 PCs. Make yourself useful.. Post something relevant instead of garbage.
This goes both ways my fan-boy friend......A friend of mine the other day asked me if Avast 5 was working for me. I said no I had a lot of problems with 5 when it 1st came out. Went to their forum and just got blown off because I was mad and not a fan-boy. Basically told 5 was working fine for them so must be what is on my machine. As you know my machine is brand new win.7 64 machine with nothing on it but Photoshop. I went back to 4.8 and it is working perfectly. I still see people with problems on the forum so now I`m thinking of MSE. Why are you having problems ? Yes upgraded to 5 and it keeps freezing up and says I`m uncovered. Have you tried reloading ? Yes twice....did the clean in safe mode and everything. Have you tried the forum ? Ya right went there and lurked for a while.....no way I`m going on there and get abused by a bunch of fanboys......That is a true story my friend....yep keep up the good work Mikos...your really giving Avast a good name.....
The times that I've needed to delve into the forums for support, I've found that the people who actually work for Avast are quite professional and courteous. It's only the fanboys that ruin this place, who for the most part alternate between giving out bad info and flame fests (as has been thoroughly demonstrated in this thread). It would behoove Avast to rein them in, least their corporate identity get tainted. My suggestion is that anyone who actually gains "Evangelist" status be limited to a few posts per day, with the suggestion that they find something useful to do with their life.
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It would behoove Avast to rein them in, least their corporate identity get tainted.
IMHO, they do this very well. See, for example, http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=55395.msg468667#msg468667 . It's never easy to find and hold to the golden mean in matters of censorship, especially since this isn't a major part of the job of any of the Avast professionals here, but just something they do by the way when they notice a problem.
Good luck.
C.
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I am not a fan boy my friend. Granting your PC only has Windows 7 x64 and Photoshop, and you still experience the problem, to say that it is Avast, and yet it works for other PCs with the same OS will still point to your machine. The idea that it is only the OS being present and Photoshop is actually a misnomer as Windows 7 alone does have a lot of things in it already. I would have checked what component like drivers, or other components that may work with Avast 4.8 yet it runs contrary to 5.0. An OS is not really just the OS per se as we all have different PCs. It does contain drivers and other stuff depending on what is in our computers. I would have had a changed perception if you have been more analytical about your response. But it turns out, it is not.
Our computers are different from each other depending on how we build them or how we set them up. To entirely blame the software without logically tracing where the problem is the way of those who do not use their cognitive faculties in trying to resolve the problem. Of course there is always an easy way out which is to remove the software and just change it to something that works immediately. But to simply say "hey fix your software" without giving the details in what is in your PC is rather futile for either the one having the problem or the one trying to fix it.
So now, who needs to upgrade what my fan boy friend?
In your case, better upgrade your cognitive faculties as it is showing already you are from the era of 386 PCs. Make yourself useful.. Post something relevant instead of garbage.
This goes both ways my fan-boy friend......A friend of mine the other day asked me if Avast 5 was working for me. I said no I had a lot of problems with 5 when it 1st came out. Went to their forum and just got blown off because I was mad and not a fan-boy. Basically told 5 was working fine for them so must be what is on my machine. As you know my machine is brand new win.7 64 machine with nothing on it but Photoshop. I went back to 4.8 and it is working perfectly. I still see people with problems on the forum so now I`m thinking of MSE. Why are you having problems ? Yes upgraded to 5 and it keeps freezing up and says I`m uncovered. Have you tried reloading ? Yes twice....did the clean in safe mode and everything. Have you tried the forum ? Ya right went there and lurked for a while.....no way I`m going on there and get abused by a bunch of fanboys......That is a true story my friend....yep keep up the good work Mikos...your really giving Avast a good name.....
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How do you know what I did to try and solve my problems ? You know nothing about me.....I have watched you .....you and your friends are to busy being Fan-boys and flaming on people like me and others that have problems with Avast 5. Your normal answers are .....their is nothing wrong with Avast 5...it is your computer....un-install, clean in safe mode, re-install and your fixed. Do you know how many times this has been said on this forum. Do you know how many times people have tried this and finally gave up as I and went back to Avast 4.8 or just moved on ? No you don`t but I would guess a lot more than you think. I did this many times...so many times that I can un-install, clean in safe mode, re-install in my sleep. I have looked at driver problems till my eyes bleed I could not figure it out....that is why I went back to 4.8. I don`t think (or have every seen) any software should be this hard to get to work. That is why I say their is a problem...or many. Microsoft is not the best company for sure....but if they would have had the attitude I see around here they would be long gone. And Microsoft is not known for their attitude for sure. My system is probably different then yours for sure.....but what I was trying to point out is it is not old, it is not full of sh*t and I should not have been having all these problems. Nor should most of the people I know be having so many problems with Avast 5.
The earlier versions of Avast were some of the best software I have ever seen. That is why myself and many others recommended it to everyone we knew. Simple for anyone to load and it just worked like a dream. That is why some of us are complaining......Avast set the bar....now we are just holding them to it. If I didn`t think Avast was a great company I would have just moved on and never would be posting here. But I am not a Fan-boy.....I want to see Avast 5 be a program that is of the standards that Avast set for themselves in the past. That is not even close to what Avast 5 is right now. To have to dance the jig and jump through hoops to get it to work is not going to go fare for sure. Avast is much better then this and they don`t need all you Fan-boys Flaming users that have problems....
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@ PAL10
How many avast! users use Adobe Photoshop CS4 with a cost of US$699?
How many avast! users do photo editing like you do?
I'm not going to become a fanboy of Adobe Photoshop CS4 for sure.
Well my friend I would think Avast would hope that every Adobe Photoshop CS4 user would be using Avast sotware......Photoshop is the standard for Photography and some of us beg and barrow and save to get it. It is widely used around the world by people with money and people without much.........So I would hope that Avast as a company would be looking for users in all kinds of places......So what is the point you are trying to make.....or are you just trying to prove how little you know about the world.....
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PAL10, well said! I'm sure the Avast Team will work out the bugs in Avast 5. Not because of Fanboy's, but because of dedicated intelligent users with integrity like yourself...
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What computers does this seem to be affecting the most? The newer ones? Is it any particular OS?
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Humanity_Blows, I think that is still being weeded out by the Avast Team, so it's kinda like asking "who's on first" at present. Very good question though...
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What computers does this seem to be affecting the most? The newer ones? Is it any particular OS?
That is the 100 million dollar question. From what I read around here it will load and work perfectly on one system. Then on another of the same operating system and similar build it will not work at all....or only temporarily....needing to be re-installed all the time. It seems to conflict with any prior antivirus being in the system even if it has been un-installed. This even includes earlier versions of Avast. I had many problems and had a new system that Avast 5 was the 1st antivirus to even be installed. It seems to conflict with all kinds of drivers for some people and not conflict with any drivers for other people. I don`t understand at all why it is so unstable for some and not for others ...so sorry I can`t be of any help......just wish I was one of those that it works perfectly for.
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It works perfect on my outdated laptop, I was just curious as to whether or not anyone made any headway on what computers seem to be the most affected.
It will be interesting to see, should it ever get sorted out.
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Could we please watch the language? I'm an atheist. :)
The "I'm religious and I found your post offensive" card works both ways, pal. ;)
Let me pose this request another way: How would you like it if someone swore using your name (as the curse word?)
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Boy... You have some serious attitude problems there... I do not appreciate people who use vulgar words, indirectly or directly in their post. It only shows their lack of maturity and not to mention their sense of decency. No sense in talking to you... Talk to the hand mister. I do not appreciate your use of words. You are too damn decent. Must you resort to using the word "s***"? I do not care if this is just a part of your expression. Too bad. You just lowered yourself and lost my sense of respect.
And excuse me. I hardly post here. So what are you watching? Do not ever align me with the Avast Envangelist or other people you consider as fan boys because they are a different breed. I am simply stating my experience with the product and how the matter should be approached. If your cognitive faculties cannot handle it, that someone can say something about a product without being a fan boy, then it is no longer my problem. I am not a fan boy. Read... I said, I do not discount the possibility that the problem can exist in other systems with the same OS. I even stated how the approach should be done. I did not see a process of isolation or elimination in your post. All you did was reinstall, install... And yes, you mentioned in another post, you deal with drivers and all that. But what have you done with it? Oh I know... Call the guys who are plain people like me who do not have problems with Avast in their systems FAN BOYS... Very good.
Your approach: if other people, plain people, do not have problems and they say it, they are fan boys... Great!!! What a great technician you are!!! Whoa... The best in the world. You must be a fan boy yourself if you have been watching me... Duh!!! It is only recently I started posting considering that some blokes love to call ordinary people as fan boys when these people's experiences run contrary to theirs... Do not ever align me with any of the Avast Evangelists as they are a different breed... They know their stuff. I am just an ordinary guy who happens to have no issues with the product. Is there something wrong with that? Am I considered then a fan boy? Duh!!! I will then be considered a fan boy of Intel, of Nvidia... And other stuff out there that I use simply because it works for me... Very nice way to reason... Shows you have a lot in between your ears... A lot of air if you ask me... That you have to use the S word in your post.
You have good intentions for raising the bar of Avast 5. I just do not agree with your approach to people who do not experience the same problems as yours, by calling them fan boys. It is too inappropriate. Be careful of how you label people. It might just back fire on you. After all, you are not the bible in technology Sir.
I am not a fan boy my friend. Granting your PC only has Windows 7 x64 and Photoshop, and you still experience the problem, to say that it is Avast, and yet it works for other PCs with the same OS will still point to your machine. The idea that it is only the OS being present and Photoshop is actually a misnomer as Windows 7 alone does have a lot of things in it already. I would have checked what component like drivers, or other components that may work with Avast 4.8 yet it runs contrary to 5.0. An OS is not really just the OS per se as we all have different PCs. It does contain drivers and other stuff depending on what is in our computers. I would have had a changed perception if you have been more analytical about your response. But it turns out, it is not.
Our computers are different from each other depending on how we build them or how we set them up. To entirely blame the software without logically tracing where the problem is the way of those who do not use their cognitive faculties in trying to resolve the problem. Of course there is always an easy way out which is to remove the software and just change it to something that works immediately. But to simply say "hey fix your software" without giving the details in what is in your PC is rather futile for either the one having the problem or the one trying to fix it.
So now, who needs to upgrade what my fan boy friend?
In your case, better upgrade your cognitive faculties as it is showing already you are from the era of 386 PCs. Make yourself useful.. Post something relevant instead of garbage.
This goes both ways my fan-boy friend......A friend of mine the other day asked me if Avast 5 was working for me. I said no I had a lot of problems with 5 when it 1st came out. Went to their forum and just got blown off because I was mad and not a fan-boy. Basically told 5 was working fine for them so must be what is on my machine. As you know my machine is brand new win.7 64 machine with nothing on it but Photoshop. I went back to 4.8 and it is working perfectly. I still see people with problems on the forum so now I`m thinking of MSE. Why are you having problems ? Yes upgraded to 5 and it keeps freezing up and says I`m uncovered. Have you tried reloading ? Yes twice....did the clean in safe mode and everything. Have you tried the forum ? Ya right went there and lurked for a while.....no way I`m going on there and get abused by a bunch of fanboys......That is a true story my friend....yep keep up the good work Mikos...your really giving Avast a good name.....
How do you know what I did to try and solve my problems ? You know nothing about me.....I have watched you .....you and your friends are to busy being Fan-boys and flaming on people like me and others that have problems with Avast 5. Your normal answers are .....their is nothing wrong with Avast 5...it is your computer....un-install, clean in safe mode, re-install and your fixed. Do you know how many times this has been said on this forum. Do you know how many times people have tried this and finally gave up as I and went back to Avast 4.8 or just moved on ? No you don`t but I would guess a lot more than you think. I did this many times...so many times that I can un-install, clean in safe mode, re-install in my sleep. I have looked at driver problems till my eyes bleed I could not figure it out....that is why I went back to 4.8. I don`t think (or have every seen) any software should be this hard to get to work. That is why I say their is a problem...or many. Microsoft is not the best company for sure....but if they would have had the attitude I see around here they would be long gone. And Microsoft is not known for their attitude for sure. My system is probably different then yours for sure.....but what I was trying to point out is it is not old, it is not full of sh*t and I should not have been having all these problems. Nor should most of the people I know be having so many problems with Avast 5.
The earlier versions of Avast were some of the best software I have ever seen. That is why myself and many others recommended it to everyone we knew. Simple for anyone to load and it just worked like a dream. That is why some of us are complaining......Avast set the bar....now we are just holding them to it. If I didn`t think Avast was a great company I would have just moved on and never would be posting here. But I am not a Fan-boy.....I want to see Avast 5 be a program that is of the standards that Avast set for themselves in the past. That is not even close to what Avast 5 is right now. To have to dance the jig and jump through hoops to get it to work is not going to go fare for sure. Avast is much better then this and they don`t need all you Fan-boys Flaming users that have problems....
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I use Photoshop CS4 Extended and the entire Adobe CS4 suite. And yet I do not have issues with Avast. Fan boy again...??? Yeah right... I am so impressed at you... Really... I cannot believe you would call average people fan boys when their experience run contrary to yours. Darn!!! Either the world is going back to the dinosaurs or you are from another species in the past transported to the world of homo sapiens sapiens.
Granting you want the product to improve... But hey buddy... Be careful of generalizing people and calling them fan boys. Your intentions are good... The way you do it though is inappropriate and very much offending.
@ PAL10
How many avast! users use Adobe Photoshop CS4 with a cost of US$699?
How many avast! users do photo editing like you do?
I'm not going to become a fanboy of Adobe Photoshop CS4 for sure.
Well my friend I would think Avast would hope that every Adobe Photoshop CS4 user would be using Avast sotware......Photoshop is the standard for Photography and some of us beg and barrow and save to get it. It is widely used around the world by people with money and people without much.........So I would hope that Avast as a company would be looking for users in all kinds of places......So what is the point you are trying to make.....or are you just trying to prove how little you know about the world.....
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I have been having this problem since upgrading to 5.0.462. Prior to that, I was really enjoying v5.
For the record, I am running WinXP SP3, on a P4 3.0Ghz HT CPU, w/3Gb of 2.99Ghz RAM. Lots of free disk space...
Not really sure why this is suddenly cropping up, but it's killing me. I can't do anything when Avast is running. I tried some of the suggestions like unchecking the HTTP scanning box, selecting only the IM & P2P apps I have installed, disabling email scanning, etc. As others have reported, "System" just starts consuming massive amounts of CPU.
I don't know if this helps, but I went through and disabled everything and re-enabled stuff one thing at a time. I seem to have minimized the effect quite a bit by disabling the "Behavior Shield". The web shield slows browsing down a bit, but the Behavior Shield appears to be what was killing my CPU. I have not had any other vscan packages on my system for a year or so now, at least. I upgraded to 5.0 from 4.8.
I hope this info helps, as I really love using Avast and I think v5 is a huge improvement, excepting this very critical issue.
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In your case, better upgrade your cognitive faculties as it is showing already you are from the era of 386 PCs. Make yourself useful.. Post something relevant instead of garbage.
This goes both ways my fan-boy friend......A friend of mine the other day asked me if Avast 5 was working for me. I said no I had a lot of problems with 5 when it 1st came out. Went to their forum and just got blown off because I was mad and not a fan-boy. Basically told 5 was working fine for them so must be what is on my machine. As you know my machine is brand new win.7 64 machine with nothing on it but Photoshop. I went back to 4.8 and it is working perfectly. I still see people with problems on the forum so now I`m thinking of MSE. Why are you having problems ? Yes upgraded to 5 and it keeps freezing up and says I`m uncovered. Have you tried reloading ? Yes twice....did the clean in safe mode and everything. Have you tried the forum ? Ya right went there and lurked for a while.....no way I`m going on there and get abused by a bunch of fanboys......That is a true story my friend....yep keep up the good work Mikos...your really giving Avast a good name.....
The times that I've needed to delve into the forums for support, I've found that the people who actually work for Avast are quite professional and courteous. It's only the fanboys that ruin this place, who for the most part alternate between giving out bad info and flame fests (as has been thoroughly demonstrated in this thread). It would behoove Avast to rein them in, least their corporate identity get tainted. My suggestion is that anyone who actually gains "Evangelist" status be limited to a few posts per day, with the suggestion that they find something useful to do with their life.
I am not sure about the people who actually work for Alwil being so great,but the
rest of your post is Gold Standard.
Although for Gods sake I do not know why you would back to Avast 4.8.
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Welcome BigMike
What other applications do you run on your system ???
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Could we please watch the language? I'm an atheist. :)
The "I'm religious and I found your post offensive" card works both ways, pal. ;)
Let me pose this request another way: How would you like it if someone swore using your name (as the curse word?)
It wouldn't bother me one bit. ;D
And I don't see where you get off being all offended with that post when you apparently like to twist holy scripture to suit your tastes. Last time I checked, John 3:16 doesn't say anything about not being an Avast! Evangelist. ::)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-4/1306626/Not%20John%203_16.jpg)
I normally wouldn't have bothered to even reply to your second post because I shouldn't have even replied to your first one, but if there's one thing I can't stand, it's a religious hypocrite.
I would say if you have something else to say, use the PM system, but I'm done replying to your posts, so kindly take your religious hypocrisy somewhere else.
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Welcome BigMike
What other applications do you run on your system ???
Thanks, YoKenny...
I run a lot of other applications, but have been randomly shutting them down and disabling them to see if they might be the culprit. I thought it was my backup application (Vembu Home, beta) but after shutting down all services for it, the problem continued. I also run Tivo Desktop/server, but shut those down, too. I have Office 2007 and run Outlook for email, and IE8. I run Windows Live Messenger, Yahoo Widgets, and RocketDock. Finally, I have itunes installed so I have the ipodservice that comes with it. None of those have ever given me an issue with previous Avast versions, and I was quite happy with version 418. It has only been since upgrading that I've had the problem. I hate to uninstall my backup app, as I'd lose my entire backup config set. :P
Maybe it would have been easier to tell you what I DON'T run... haha! :o ;)
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maybe u want 2 post a hijackthis log...?
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@ BigMike
I doubt all of those applications would run on my Windows 7 system either. ;)
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ROFL... they're not all running at the same time, usually... but again, never had a problem with 4.8 or 5.0.418 ... it was only after the recent update. :(
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That's really odd that you're only having problems after the most recent update.
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That's really odd that you're only having problems after the most recent update.
Yes... and it's most definitely related to the "Behavior Shield". :(
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That's really odd that you're only having problems after the most recent update.
Yes... and it's most definitely related to the "Behavior Shield". :(
so, turn it off then...
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I hardly see any activity in my Behavior Shield on my XP Pro system when viewing the results for the last week.
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That's really odd that you're only having problems after the most recent update.
Yes... and it's most definitely related to the "Behavior Shield". :(
so, turn it off then...
I did... I don't even know what it does... but I wish when I turned it off that the little exclamation piont didnt show up over my tray icon.
OF course, I'd also rather it work like it used to... turning it off doesnt explain why I suddenly starting having this problem?
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I hardly see any activity in my Behavior Shield on my XP Pro system when viewing the results for the last week.
peak from last month: 22!
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My peak was like 12, but otherwise it doesn't do much... that is, it doesn't do much other than cause the "System" process to eat CPU for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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I did... I don't even know what it does... but I wish when I turned it off that the little exclamation piont didnt show up over my tray icon.
Hi, see this thread. hope this helps
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=56142.msg474008#msg474008 (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=56142.msg474008#msg474008)
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Very little activity in the Behaviour Shield with a Peak of 16 today installing new/updated software, average 0.289 over the last month.
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I did... I don't even know what it does... but I wish when I turned it off that the little exclamation piont didnt show up over my tray icon.
go 2 preferences - status bar and disable the module u don't want 2 watch.
asyn
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My peak was like 12, but otherwise it doesn't do much... that is, it doesn't do much other than cause the "System" process to eat CPU for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
isn't that hungry here... ;)
but imo it's not!!! that important, so just drop it if problems occur.
asyn
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I did... I don't even know what it does... but I wish when I turned it off that the little exclamation piont didnt show up over my tray icon.
go 2 preferences - status bar and disable the module u don't want 2 watch.
asyn
Thank you!! That helps... it's nice to have my CPU back again, and also not be alerted that I'm not "fully protected"! I'd like to resolve this long-term so I can turn it back on, but I think I can live without it.
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I have mine fixed now.
I have been trying a lot of different approaches to repair the "issue" of Avast taking all of my CPU for approximately 5 minutes upon System Startup.
If I logged into my router it showed quite a bit of transfer, or attempted transfer during this same 5 minute period. Avast also manages to disable the firewall during this time. Just the firewall being down should worry the average user, thankfully most people nowadays run a firewall through their routers as well.
I any case. Getting rid of the problem is easy.
First download the newest release of Avast 5.0462, and save it where you can get at it easily with admin privileges. Simply updating to the newest version DOES NOT WORK!!
After download restart in safe mode, and uninstall Avast through the downloaded installer (clicking install package should give you the option to Uninstall/repair the Avast installation.
Restart again in safe mode, you can start in "regular" if you disable your internet connection (just not wanting any open doors here).
Once again, install the Avast install package. Typical install, make sure you un click the community option if you do not want it.
Restart the Computer, and if you had if disabled, enable the internet again.
This seems simple, and it is, the newest release is really what fixes the problem, but once again, updating just doesn't cut it, you have to completely remove Avast, and re-install.
Brad
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First download the newest release of Avast 9.0462
i'm also shure that all problems will b fixed till version 9.0 !!! :D
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version 9.0 !!!
this is new ;D
ten years ahead
maybe your os will be dead because
window update and restoration not yet invented
super avast 9.0 ;D
:D :D :D :D
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First download the newest release of Avast 9.0462
i'm also shure that all problems will b fixed till version 9.0 !!! :D
LMAO Sorry about that, My brain has a few bad sectors.
Yep, the hardest part of fixing it is getting version 9 lol. You have to build a time machine, and I am not sharing that part of the fix... For free. ;D. If you are lucky enough to be a chosen community by Google you may have fast enough Internet to actually see the version before it is created though!!
Fats
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First download the newest release of Avast 9.0462
i'm also shure that all problems will b fixed till version 9.0 !!! :D
LMAO Sorry about that, My brain has a few bad sectors.
Yep, the hardest part of fixing it is getting version 9 lol. You have to build a time machine, and I am not sharing that part of the fix... For free. ;D. If you are lucky enough to be a chosen community by Google you may have fast enough Internet to actually see the version before it is created though!!
Fats
lol! :D ;D
no prob, makes even a hard day worth living... even thought bout borrowing ur time machine 2 download the v9 in the future if u won't share... ;)
have a nice day,
asyn
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;D what time machine ??? ???
it already built long time ago
if talk about time machine
here some example of time machine ;D
watches-it is invented to monitor time so time machine ;D ::)
recording tape/cd/dvd-it is use to record the events so it is time machine also
you can go back in time by playing this record traveling time as observer
maybe they develop one to make time travel as existed mode but maybe not today ;D ;D ;D ;D
edit: no need to download security software that far ahead than os its more dangerous if you have it.
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I could build a perfect workstation to use V9 then. ;D
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here some example of time machine ;D
watches-it is invented to monitor time so time machine ;D ::)
recording tape/cd/dvd-it is use to record the events so it is time machine also
you can go back in time by playing this record traveling time as observer
maybe they develop one to make time travel as existed mode but maybe not today ;D.
rofl!! i like that!! :D
but i only accept the watch example as 'real' time machine, since the others can only go back in time. ;)
@yokenny: like your design, have u already tried it? :)
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you got it again yokenny ;D ;D ;D
the future is now why still searching?
avast 5.0.462
edit:
but i only accept the watch example as 'real' time machine, since the others can only go back in time
but they want's their CPU back so much better to design a back steps than futuristic :-X
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So is this mainly a Windows XP problem?
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So is this mainly a Windows XP problem?
What do you exactly mean? (it's a long thread)
No problems here on different xp systems.
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All my XP systems have to rebooted every 2 hours to stop the constant 100% cpu and memory utilisation with Avast 5.
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Avast has been giving me problems as well and I cannot completely remove it from my system for some reason..error 536870929 appears
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@tweaknews: We are expecting an update soon...
@coroline: http://avast.com/uninstall-utility (use it in safe mode)
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@tweaknews: We are expecting an update soon...
@coroline: http://avast.com/uninstall-utility (use it in safe mode)
Oh nice!
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Hi :)
Avast 5 Free - Laptop .. No Problem!
Avast 5 Free - Desktop .. Not Quite Sure! :-\
My 13 year old son uses the desktop computer.
But I've noticed that only since Avast 5 has been installed...
Now and again when my son has been on You Tube and his Online Game for a couple of hours.
And then he goes off to play on his XBox or PS3...
I go to check on the desktop... :o
Opening any browser or any software sends the CPU Crazy .. 100% in all four cores :'(
The only way to stop it... Shut Down - & - Boot Up Again ::)
I keep shouting at my Son :-[
But my instinct tells me... He's not doing anything that should cause It! ???
Hally
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Much activity on both YouTube and Online gaming can be tough on a system and drive the CPU to 100% ... especially when such activities are done back-to-back.
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Much activity on both YouTube and Online gaming can be tough on a system and drive the CPU to 100% ... especially when such activities are done back-to-back.
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Stop making excuses.
The fact is this happened to me as well and it is not during them being used. When this is happeneing, I can close everything down, and restart youtube 4 hours later and it will peak the cpu and mem usage with AVast 5.
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Never happens with me at all. And I am now running all versions of avast.
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mkis, why would it help someone who has this problem, read your statement that you don't have this problem? Sorry, I really don't get it...
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they have to look at the environment in which this is happening - Youtube and Online games - that is a good indication
- I'm sorry but we do not have telepathic vision ???
I benchmark my systems against best case scenario not worst case scenario
What would you say is the problem here - if you want to just lurk in the background and snipe - find another forum Entity
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Entity, I know this reply from me or the picture I am posting is not
going to help Hally when her son watches You tube, but the fact is
that when I am watching You tube videos Avast does not peak (%).
I am running XP SP3.
<a href="http://img106.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33118_Avastcpu0_122_252lo.JPG" target=_blank><img src="http://img106.imagevenue.com/loc252/th_33118_Avastcpu0_122_252lo.JPG" border="0"></a>
(http://<a href="http://img106.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33118_Avastcpu0_122_252lo.JPG" target=_blank><img src="http://img106.imagevenue.com/loc252/th_33118_Avastcpu0_122_252lo.JPG" border="0"></a>)
@Hally, maybe you have a program conflicting with Avast.
Good luck
Bo
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This is the link
http://img106.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33118_Avastcpu0_122_252lo.JPG
Bo
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Avast seems to get slow the more and more you use your internet browser and do some video watching. After a certain time even if you close the browser and open it up later, it struggles and uses max resources just to do everyday tasks.
Only a reboot will fix it.
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Can you provide us with more information Tweaknews?
what are you watching when yr internet browser get slower, what I mean is some programs are unknowingly loading cookies and the like into yr system as you go, so poor computer is carrying a heavier load all the time.
I guess you know how to clean out Temporary Internet files using Control Panel \Internet Options \Settings \View Files
- but also look in View Objects to see if anything in there is broken or damaged
Now when you reboot, do you have your earlier speed back? or is it still a bit slower than previous, and quickly gets very slow again. I say this because this is very typical behavior of malware, though generally will slow PC much quicker than with Halley's case where the son was watching for a couple of hours
- but do consider that the PC might be getting swamp with temp files, cookies, etc..
Also would help to outline yr system specs - hardware, software, and yr systems protections against malware (current and previous)
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Also would help to outline yr system specs - hardware, software, and yr systems protections against malware (current and previous)
+1
We don't even know, which browser you use, what's your os, etc....
But sure a cleanup with ccleaner, wouldn't be a mistake.
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Avast me I was 100% of CPU process AvastSvc when I opened Outlook Express, now I switched to Thunderbird and the problem is solved, AcastSvc 40%
I would say welcome Avast 5.0 free
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Well, I must say, even on quite old computers, I find the performance of Avast 5 to be quite acceptable. If you're having problems, don't just dump it.....help us fix it. The vast majority of the people who have used Avast 5 like it......including myself. If you don't like 5, use 4.8. You have great options. Avast is a great AV, and keeps getting better.
As for the person who commented that it was a dog for the first 5 minutes, I always turn off the rootkit scan on startup because it does that. I also always check the load after system services. Both of those are on the troubleshooting tab of the settings panel. I don't feel that the performance trade-off is worth the small amount of security improvement.
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Can you provide us with more information Tweaknews?
Also would help to outline yr system specs - hardware, software, and yr systems protections against malware (current and previous)
I run Windows XP
Intel Quad Extreme QX6700
2 gigs of memory
nothing virus or malware running other than Avast.
This has nothing to do with anything with my system other than the antivirus. Going back to Avast 4.8 has my machine running perfectly.
The water is not going to be muddied with people pointing fingers at my system WHEN IT WORKED AND NOW WORKS PERFECT WITH AVAST 4.8.
It seems to slow faster if you are viewing online flash based video files and it has nothing to do with cookies or cache or anything related to my system.
This has nothing to do with a problem other than AVAST slowing the computer down to a level that a reboot is necessary.
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okay thats fine, Tweaknews. There are others who have returned to avast 4.8, because their system is run better on that version.
Obviously you would prefer to be on v5 if it could be made conducive to the environment in which yr system currently run smooth.
Unfortunately I do not know the answer to this problem. Other than perhaps, the new Beta build 5.0.492 may prove conducive.
I guess that v5 Free AV would be first stop. If works there, likely be the same with Pro and IS.
Just let us know what you can as you go, in yr free time. Sometimes it takes a bit of time to find the ideal environment.
I've been setting up a new computer over last few days, and a couple of things I just cannot seem to get without getting mixed up.
But finally I think I'm okay and system is go. I'll be running AIS on this unit, so upgrade to new Beta build and see how we go.
I know you can't keep do uninstall / reinstall merry go round, but new Beta build might be worth a go, or wait for official release. :)
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I guess some people's Windows are so dirty and corrupt that they need to format their PC with a Fresh Install
Some people install these Tweak Software and mess things up such as registry and so on
So that installed softwares act like bananas
Just an observation
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I guess some people's Windows are so dirty and corrupt that they need to format their PC with a Fresh Install
Some people install these Tweak Software and mess things up such as registry and so on
So that installed softwares act like bananas
Just an observation
and a poor observation at that. My OS is 3 months old.
Too many people pointing fingers at the systems and not the real problem. Scape goat excuses benefit no one and undermines the feedback process.
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Make sure Java Quick Starter is disabled in Java Control Panel available in Control Panel.
Are you using DSL or cable Internet connection?
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Make sure Java Quck Starter is disabled in Java Control Panel available in Control Panel.
A little off topic, but I've always wanted to know about this: What exactly does Java Quick Starter do? Can it always be safely disabled? Can it be safely uninstalled?
Thanks.
C.
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Hi Cassy please read:
http://java.com/en/download/help/quickstarter.xml
In my opinion unless you use Java very often then its good advice to
disable it, like YoKenny is suggesting. I personally always have Java
disabled by NoScript and I enable it only during American Football
season when I follow games on the PC and Java is needed for that.
The rest of the year I don't use Java so in my case is advisable to
disable it. Probably you rarely use/need Java or JQS, so its probably
advisable for you to disable it.
Bo
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I run Windows XP
Intel Quad Extreme QX6700
2 gigs of memory
nothing virus or malware running other than Avast.
This has nothing to do with anything with my system other than the antivirus. Going back to Avast 4.8 has my machine running perfectly.
The water is not going to be muddied with people pointing fingers at my system WHEN IT WORKED AND NOW WORKS PERFECT WITH AVAST 4.8.
It seems to slow faster if you are viewing online flash based video files and it has nothing to do with cookies or cache or anything related to my system.
This has nothing to do with a problem other than AVAST slowing the computer down to a level that a reboot is necessary.
I have the same problem here. After many tests, I had to disable the Behavior Shield to fix my problem. I really hope that Alwil will find a solution...
Jeff-K
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@ Cassy
Re: Java Quick Start, dubious?
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22803369-
Go to PROFILE then Modify Profile then Forum Profile Information then update your Signature: with information like my signature as this helps the helpers offer pertinent advice.
I don't need Java much but I do use it occasionally to make sure that my system is up to date:
Secunia Online Software Inspector (OSI)
http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online
With Java Quick Starter disabled on my XP Pro system the OSI scan takes a long time to start.
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Hmmmm, not sure but this seems to be the place to ask this question. I have Avast 4.8pro and PC Tool spyware doctor 7.0.0.543 running and I get lockup or crawlspeed after being online for 3 hours or more. The pages fragment and everything crawls to a stop. Even to shut down takes forever. Things speed up if I unplug the modem and shut down Avast and then reopen. Ideas???????
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Hi fasteddy,
Try disabling avast! Web Shield and see if things improve. Please post back the results. :)
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I think PC Tool spyware doctor is far behind the avast protection.
If I were you, I'll uninstall it and not disable WebShield.
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Hi Cassy please read:
http://java.com/en/download/help/quickstarter.xml
In my opinion unless you use Java very often then its good advice to
disable it, like YoKenny is suggesting. I personally always have Java
disabled by NoScript and I enable it only during American Football
season when I follow games on the PC and Java is needed for that.
The rest of the year I don't use Java so in my case is advisable to
disable it. Probably you rarely use/need Java or JQS, so its probably
advisable for you to disable it.
Bo
Well strange as it seems, even with the Java Quick Start unchecked in the Java Control Panel, mine was still there in the Task Manager.
So some may find the same even with the option unchecked in the Java Control Panel, I Stopped the process in the services.msc and changed the startup from Automatic to Manual which allows it to be started by the Java process when required.
I too only use it infrequently and mainly when visiting Secunia to check my system is up to date.
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I think PC Tool spyware doctor is far behind the avast protection.
If I were you, I'll uninstall it and not disable WebShield.
Does the web shield offer spyware protection????
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There's definitely a problem with the new version. I just bought Avast Internet Security 5.0 a couple days ago (version 5.0.462). As soon as the download was completed, my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1501 running Windows XP) locked up. I could move the pointer with the mouse, but that's it - I couldn't select anything with it, Cntrl-Alt-Delete to get to the task manager didn't work, nothing. The only thing I could do was power it down. It turns out, whenever I power up the laptop with my wireless router turned on (it connects to the internet automatically if it senses my network), the thing locks up solid. If I power up without connecting to the internet, everything is OK. So I disabled the firewall, and then I turn on the router, connect, and everything works OK. Oddly enough, I just re-enabled the Windows firewall (had been running with it off before because I had other firewalls) then, just for kicks, turned the Avast firewall back on. For the first time since I installed it, everything seems to be OK. CPU usage is nothing, memory usage is 6080K. We'll see if that keeps up. I'm extremely disappointed with the new Avast version.
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This could involve an issue with dell laptops and avast which is solved by updating the driver
best check out the following link and see how you go -
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=45715.msg390432#msg390432
Edit - see next post - are you able to go to System Information and provide us with some more details?
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Hi, I'm also having this same problem and am unable to discover the cause of the CPU Usage (70 % to 99%), and thus I'm finding it hard to write this reply.
The attached "DxDiag.xml" file has just been generated by DxDiag.exe running in 64 bit mode. You can find my system information there.
I'm running "avast! Free Antivirus" "Program version 5.0.462" "Virus definitions version: 100408-1"
Please help, I need this issue resolved as soon as possible!
Thanks, Xil3
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okay the issue is likely to be yr graphics card. But you will need to provide a bit more basic information.
Firstly, is the DxDiag reading correct - NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS - if correct, have you upgraded to this card?
or conflict between two devices - probably how yr system is set up for games
what are yr computer specs?
- what is yr system manufacturer?
- what is yr system product name?
I'm not using Windows 7 or 64bit, but here goes --
Can you bring up System Information? - Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> System Information
First - under Hardware Resources - go to IRQ - and can you provide a screenshot of this page
Second - under Components - go to Problem devices - can you provide the information that is on this page
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I first built it in 2005, upgrading as I went along, so therefore the system manufacturer is: Cyber-Connexions, a company that my father started and my brother continued.
The system specs are stated in the DxDiag.txt file, under the "System information", if this isn't enough specify in detail what I need to provide.
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ (2 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 2078MB used, 10202MB available
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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 116.2 GB
Total Space: 476.8 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: SAMSUNG HD501LJ SCSI Disk Device
Drive: E:
Model: LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1653S ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 00:19:54, 147456 bytes
Drive: D:
Model: PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117 ATA Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/14/2009 00:19:54, 147456 bytes
I didn't have this problem before I updated to avast! 5, so why am I getting it now?
The screenshots are linked:
(http://img718.imageshack.us/i/irqs1.gif/)
http://img718.imageshack.us/i/irqs1.gif/ (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/irqs1.gif/)
(http://img254.imageshack.us/i/irqs2.gif/)
http://img254.imageshack.us/i/irqs2.gif/ (http://img254.imageshack.us/i/irqs2.gif/)
(http://img101.imageshack.us/i/irqs3.gif/)
http://img101.imageshack.us/i/irqs3.gif/ (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/irqs3.gif/)
(http://img255.imageshack.us/i/problemdevices.gif/)
http://img255.imageshack.us/i/problemdevices.gif/ (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/problemdevices.gif/)
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@Xil3 - just a couple of points
I am not on Windows 7 or 64bit but I currently working on a similar system - here is the DxDiag (was already on desktop)
http://docs.google.com/View?id=ah85g3kzb4tn_269hm4xvs66
I have had no problem loading the v5 Free AV and then upgrading to IS AV. and this was before I started tidying up the system.
But that really is not much help to you is it?
perhaps that you are 64bit with Win7 makes a difference - there have been a few issues, but not sure whether with Free AV.
Anyway I think best start yr own thread for this, even tho might turn out to be an easy fix - add link to new thread in a reply here
- and put something in the header to say that system is used for games
Plenty IRQs - acpi-compliant - but I think that is okay for now, normal for a system like yours
But USB wireless Network Adapter is disabled - what gives there? Is it possible to enable even if not being used.
I think best run a HijackThis scan as well so we can see if anything there of interest about the system
Click here – (will take direct to download)
http://www.filehippo.com/download_hijackthis/download/8571e06e5eb8ab03c649f3b5d647c599/
Download and run.
Then do scan and save a log file.
Post the log file to this thread. If it is too large you may have to post in two parts.
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Attached is my system information (saved information from dxdiag)
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You can use: Eset?
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Attached is my system information (saved information from dxdiag)
These DxDiag do not give much insight into the run of avast on yr system. better to run one of the following
HijackThis Click here – (will take direct to download)
http://www.filehippo.com/download_hijackthis/download/8571e06e5eb8ab03c649f3b5d647c599/
Download and run.
Then do scan and save a log file.
Post the log file to this thread. If it is too large you may have to post in two parts.
Or OTL - see http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53253.msg451454#msg451454
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Here is the HijackThis file
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@ tom2112my - yr system appears to be very congested - is this from long time use loading programs and web apps etc...?
perhaps a lot of stuff that you don't actual use anymore, but I'm not going to bother about that just yet cos not priority
Firstly yr HjT log -
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - (no file)
Fix this entry - put checkmark in box next to the entry and click Fix Checked in bottom left hand corner of the screen
- after fixed checked, you need to run Scan to bring up a new log - I prefer to fix one entry at a time
O16 - DPF: {44990301-3C9D-426D-81DF-AAB636FA4345} (Symantec Script Runner Class) - https://www-secure.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/ss/sa/sa_cabs/tgctlsr.cab
This is web app helper from Symantec, but you do not run any Symantec / Norton - so I say fix this as well (see note below)
O16 - DPF: {6A344D34-5231-452A-8A57-D064AC9B7862} (Symantec Download Manager) - https://webdl.symantec.com/activex/symdlmgr.cab
This is web app helper from Symantec, but you do not run any Symantec / Norton - so I say fix this as well (see note below)
Note - did you have Symantec / Norton on yr system - if so, then best run the specialist norton uninstall tool if you have not already.
Find the right one here - (someone might have a better site for the Norton uninstall utility)
http://www.symantec.com/norton/support/kb/web_view.jsp?wv_type=public_web&docurl=20080710133834EN
Restart
Okay now a quick cleanup of the desktop
download - http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/ (top right-hand corner - 3.22MB)
(1)Run the first two cleaners - Windows and Applications
(2)Got down to tools -> Startup - and look at what is set to start in yr system when you boot up, you have too many programs set to start cos if set to manual these programs will start anyway when you click a relevant program in runtime
- if you need help with this, then just do step (1) and see how you go
Reply post here
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thanks mkis. i did as you suggested. first off, yes, i did have norton until very recently. i had both norton and avast for a while to compare them and it was always avast that caught any problems. i guess the uninstall tool i used didn't do a complete job.
after all the cleanup (everything on your list, but i left most of the startup stuff alone for now), i have a cleaner system, but i still have the same issue with avast. if i try to start up with the wireless router on and the avast firewall active, the system locks up solid. oh well. i've been getting around it by booting up with the router off, disabling the avast firewall for 10 minutes, then turning the router on. that usually works for me. i see there's a new avast 5.0 version available for beta testing. i will wait until it is generally available for use, but i am hoping that the new version will help.
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tom2112ny
did you see this link to Dgillham and issue with Dell laptops - there have been some good results?
Dgillham - http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=45715.msg390432#msg390432
link - http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=56876.msg491066#msg491066
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still slows down, cant see anything out of the ordinary...
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okay I'm in a bit of a rush at the moment and will have time to look in more depth later
But for now -
Fix this entry, unless there is some specific reason that you know that it should be there
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
To fix the entry - put checkmark in box next to the entry and click Fix Checked in bottom left hand corner of the screen
- after fixed checked, you need to run Scan to bring up a new log - I prefer to fix one entry at a time
This seems to lead nowhere, so I think best fix checked unless you have specific reason not to - but wait for second opinion this time
O4 - Global Startup: Logitech SetPoint.lnk = ?
perhaps allows for the link to be picked up by another one of yr apps (and prob keylogger involved for yr usage?)
Punkbuster - I think this is some Beta testing app that may now have passed its use-by date
O23 - Service: PnkBstrA - Unknown - C:\Windows\system32\PnkBstrA.exe
you would know better than me about this - but here is an uninstall utility anyway - http://www.evenbalance.com/downloads/pbsvc/pbsvc.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~2\Office12\EXCEL.EXE/3000
Spelling mistake but perhaps nothing sinister to this - wait for second opinion about the entry
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\samsrv.dll,-1 - Unknown - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing)
I wont make call on this because lsass.exe is involved - probably fix checked - but certainly, wait for second opinion
well I will be back soon Xil3 and have a closer look. Meantime someone else may have more to offer.
Since this machine is a self-build, I am a bit unwilling to rush straight into fix checked option, but certainly the Gopher Prefix entry is known to reduce computers to a crawl if left to persist by its own means
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im not sure what gopher prefix is... so im going to fix that one,
PnkBstrA.exe and PnkBstrB.exe are services used by punkbuster. Punkbuster is an anti-cheat client used in Call of duty series and Battlefield series. Without PnkBstrA.exe and PnkBstrB.exe i wouldnt be able to join online servers. This exe stays.
Pretty sure thats just MS Excel, not sure why its got "E&xport"...
samsrv.dll This file is part of Microsoft Windows Operating System. Samsrv.dll is developed by Microsoft Corporation. It’s a system and hidden file. Samsrv.dll is usually located in the %SYSTEM% sub-folder and its usual size is 415,744 bytes. The samsrv.dll process is safe and disabling it can be dangerous, because programs on your computer need it to work correctly.
New log file attached.
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sorry I was out all last night.
Yr HjT log looks okay. lots of programs and apps but seems neat and tidy enough.
none of the guys have commented so seems nothing amiss here.
so still problems after Gopher was removed?
If so, then I think we could take a look at yr avast install. And see if we can right that so runs as it should.
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so what do i do to check the avast install... i suppose im gonna have to screenshot everything?
cause yeah, im still getting it... its clearly something to do with the resident scanning, cause everytime i go to c:\ or my documents it spikes...
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try and run a repair avast install in Safe Mode
Add/Remove programs in Control Panel
scroll down screen when prompted to Repair
repair avst
Restart
Yr HjT looks okay. But there still maybe conflict evident amongst programs.
how about a screenshot of Conflicts/Sharing under Hardware Resources in System Infomation
Outside that I really have run out of ideas. Have you tried the new Beta update 5.0.504?
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hello!i"m a chinese college student.哈哈 我的avast5就很好用啊，CPU和RAM占用也是很低的 If you need any help,pleast sent me an email sxt1988@163.com .
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Before you blame Avast, consider Microsoft. I just uninstalled IE8 and returned to IE7, and I deleted a bunch of windows updates (the last year) and it's like an all-new system. Perhaps, if you update windows, you have brought a conflict into the mix.
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Hello all.
I've just read through all this thread with some interest. I have had for the past couple of weeks an issue with my home pc where the 'system' process has been running at over 90%.
As per usual with pc issues, you head off in the wrong direction looking for the answer. After stumbling across this thread though, my mind is made up.
Upgrading my avast to version 5 has created this problem. The time line fits exactly and moreover, disabling the behaviour shield fixes it.
Too many users reporting this problem for it not to be an issue with avast. Thankyou to the posters who posted up the fix with the behaviour shield. I'd rather have it switched back on, but my main concern is being able to use my pc!!
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still slows down, cant see anything out of the ordinary...
Stop wasting your time, it is not your computer that is the problem.
Don't get suckered into a wild goose chase.
Downgrade to 4.8 and you will see all is fine.
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just for information (there must be some critical amount of ppl to have this problem to make Alvil understand that it IS a problem) that I have the same issue. just in one of my computers.
so will downgrade, it seems to be the only help.
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I've also been experiencing the same problems with Avast 5. Have posted before looking for help, and mostly just got bafflement. Have been following the forums and usually just see people reiterating how there can't possibly be anything wrong with their precious Avast and advising ludicrous fixes like re-re-re-re-re-re-re-installing the program or rebuilding your entire computer from scratch with a Q-Tip and 7 liters of motor oil, whilst chanting a rain haiku. A common prevailing opinion is that the powers that be amazingly decided to slow your computer down due to other programs, browser add-ons, registry junk, that time your aunt spilled water on your keyboard in '97, etc, etc, etc - all coincidentally right when you upgraded to Avast 5. Surely, if you cleared up all of these silly and totally-unrelated problems, you would see that Avast 5 is anything BUT a problem. Indeed, it's surely God's gift to your computer, you silly mortal.
I wish Avast would get with the program and realize there IS some sort of memory issue with Avast 5. Or at least for Avast fanboys to stop babbling about how little memory it uses on their systems and how your problems must be related to that salami sandwich you had for lunch, since it couldn't possibly be Avast.
I've been running it in a less secure mode so I can manually terminate the process and reboot it when it hogs my memory to death, which I was told is a "dangerous workaround" and not a solution (it would be downright silly to respond to this with anything other than "DUH"). And while I appreciate being told how my workaround is sub-par and putting the entirety of the world at danger, I don't appreciate it nearly as much as I would if someone were to actually put their brain cells together and offer a solution that maybe ISN'T a dangerous workaround. Heck, I would even settle for a somewhat unwise workaround.
In short, we either have to turn off the security setting that prevents the Avast process from being killed so we can take back the memory it leaks on us, or downgrade the program to 4.8. Because God forbid someone on the Avast team admit to a problem and offer a solution that doesn't entirely suck for the end-user.
I sit here in eager anticipation for all of the responses about how my computer is the anti-christ and all of this memory-leakage is a figment of my imagination.
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I've also been experiencing the same problems with Avast 5. Have posted before looking for help, and mostly just got bafflement. Have been following the forums and usually just see people reiterating how there can't possibly be anything wrong with their precious Avast and advising ludicrous fixes like re-re-re-re-re-re-re-installing the program or rebuilding your entire computer from scratch with a Q-Tip and 7 liters of motor oil, whilst chanting a rain haiku. A common prevailing opinion is that the powers that be amazingly decided to slow your computer down due to other programs, browser add-ons, registry junk, that time your aunt spilled water on your keyboard in '97, etc, etc, etc - all coincidentally right when you upgraded to Avast 5. Surely, if you cleared up all of these silly and totally-unrelated problems, you would see that Avast 5 is anything BUT a problem. Indeed, it's surely God's gift to your computer, you silly mortal.
I wish Avast would get with the program and realize there IS some sort of memory issue with Avast 5. Or at least for Avast fanboys to stop babbling about how little memory it uses on their systems and how your problems must be related to that salami sandwich you had for lunch, since it couldn't possibly be Avast.
I've been running it in a less secure mode so I can manually terminate the process and reboot it when it hogs my memory to death, which I was told is a "dangerous workaround" and not a solution (it would be downright silly to respond to this with anything other than "DUH"). And while I appreciate being told how my workaround is sub-par and putting the entirety of the world at danger, I don't appreciate it nearly as much as I would if someone were to actually put their brain cells together and offer a solution that maybe ISN'T a dangerous workaround. Heck, I would even settle for a somewhat unwise workaround.
In short, we either have to turn off the security setting that prevents the Avast process from being killed so we can take back the memory it leaks on us, or downgrade the program to 4.8. Because God forbid someone on the Avast team admit to a problem and offer a solution that doesn't entirely suck for the end-user.
I sit here in eager anticipation for all of the responses about how my computer is the anti-christ and all of this memory-leakage is a figment of my imagination.
You're a talented writer..!! I just love this post...! ;D
asyn
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@ astroasis
As Asyn's post was less than helpful it would be good if you included your system information like operating system and Service Pack level plus the CPU type and speed plus amount of system RAM.
This information can provide better help for you.
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As Asyn's post was less than helpful it would be good if you included your system information like operating system and Service Pack level plus the CPU type and speed plus amount of system RAM.
You're right... ;)
I was not helpful at all, since i thought this was more an expression of anger than a cry for help.
I don't go along with the content, still the style fascinates me...
asyn
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@ astroasis
Hi there
perhaps it would help if you run a simple scan to let us know what is yr running gear.
HijackThis scan is an analysis tool that, together with the info Yokenny asks for, will give us the basics of yr system.
Click here – (will take direct to download)
http://www.filehippo.com/download_hijackthis/download/8571e06e5eb8ab03c649f3b5d647c599/
Download and run.
Then do scan and save a log file.
Post the log file to this thread. If it is too large you may have to post in two parts.
Or do OTL scan - see http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53253.msg451454#msg451454
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@ astroasis
As Asyn's post was less than helpful it would be good if you included your system information like operating system and Service Pack level plus the CPU type and speed plus amount of system RAM.
This information can provide better help for you.
Because you are doing the typical thing on this forum and sending people on wild goose chases ripping their systems apart when their system is not the problem.
He has every right to express his frustration seeing his thoughts follow a lot of people having trouble here.
Let's start fixing AVast and stop fixing perfectly fine computers that worked fine with Avast 4.8.
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I have five computers in the house at the moment. They all run fine with avast v5.
You have to speak for yr own computer Tweaknews.
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I have five computers in the house at the moment. They all run fine with avast v5.
You have to speak for yr own computer Tweaknews.
Tweaknews needs to get to 20 posts so that they can update their profile with the system information they are using so that meaningfull help can be offered.
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Read the whole thread.
I already posted the details of my computer and I am not about to blame it for a flawed piece of software.
Works fine with 4.8, slows to dogcrap with 5 and maxes out the cpu to open one webpage after about an hour of use.
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For me AvastSvc.exe and AvastUI.exe doesn't lag but just yesterday afwServ.exe, the firewall, was at 99 CPU even when I stopped all connections with the internet. It stayed like that for half an hour, I got so mad I slammed the restart button and everything went back to normal.
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I can add to this discussion after my previous post. :-)
It is DEFINITELY and without question a problem with avast (which by the way I think is very good software apart from this issue). I run quite a tight home PC which I had never, ever had any issue with until I upgraded my avast to version 5. Once I did, my processor was forever maxed. Disabling the behaviour shield a few weeks ago stopped the problem. Re-enabling the shield brings back the problem.
What more proof could anyone want?
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Thought I would post this one here, it seemed like the place.
Well, I too have started noticing the "slow down". Now at first I thought maybe I had some
odd driver or some lame dll file that needing updating, or even my register needing a sweep.
But alas, my needle in a haystack search proved pointless. Everything looked good.
Soooooo....
I decided to look into the operations. What was going on that was slowing me down?
First dear reader, you should know that I keep my system in standby mode, basically it sleeps
when not in use. I also keep all junk/temp files/cache files cleaned out.
I noticed that coming out of standby was starting to become a real chore. So I decided
to leave my little process sniffer on when I put it to sleep, and then woke it up again.
What I saw was multiple instances of the avast update engine trying to cram updates into my system,
using ALOT of cpu to do it. Hence my slowdown problem.
My brilliant, dumb as a rock solution: TURN OFF AUTO UPDATE. And heck, while I was at it, turn off shields I do not use.
TADA!!!!!!!(Insert windows Tada sound here) Seems to run much better now. :)
Now, I am not saying this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.
I still have my wife's and my son's systems to update, but I think I will wait till avast is stable again.
In closing, I leave you with this thought:
It is not easy coming out with a freshly updated piece of software and have it instantly work perfectly
for everyone. Heck, look at Microsoft as an example. Before them, a patch was something you used on a bicycle tire or the seat of your britches. Vista anyone?
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Thought I would post this one here, it seemed like the place.
Thanks for your feedback, PapaSmurf..!! :)
asyn
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First thing, Why in the hellz would anyone be using Windows XP? Windows XP is like 10 years old, Isn't secure and is more proned to Viruses. Windows Vista wasn't a success though I had no issues with Windows Vista. However, Windows 7 is a good OS, and that is what people should be using until Windows 8 is released in 2012. I have used Avast! and never had an issue with it. Im sure some people will have an issue running Avat! on computers that are old and haven't been upgraded. Computers these days are being installed with min 2G RAM to 4G RAM! I'm sure many will disagree with my opinion on Windows XP, But you won't when the support and updates end soon!!
Peace! :)
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@ JANEWAY: not sure XP is responsible for the CPU peaks related here...you may be off topic. This said the worse issues experienced with Avast 5 and related on the forums come from XP systems. That's a fact. I don't care whether a majority of users don't post here; doesn't mean they have no issues just because they're not reporting. A majority is using the "free version" and, if they're stuck with V5 on XP, will switch to another AV solution silently, without ever login in to Avast forums.
On a side note, see my links there ;)
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=59137.msg498780#msg498780
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58890.msg496415#msg496415
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@ PapaSmurf
Turning off Shields that you don't use will have zero impact on performance as if you aren't using those shields or rather programs/function (P2P, etc.) that the shields monitor then they will consume zero CPU.
If you don't use a Shield or its associated applications then you can remove it completely using the windows add remove programs, avast!, click the change/remove button and from the next window select Change. Here you will see the various Shields installed in avast you can uncheck those that you don't use, exercise care here not to remove a required shield and OK your way out.
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Wow, umm, ok...lets respond..ready?
#1 JaneWay: WinXP Pro.....
FYI....pretty much all the sh*t you're using now was tested and developed on XP Pro.
This is not subject to debate..it is a fact. As I stated, Microsoft has NEVER released ANYTHING that did not
require patch/security updates. This includes your wonderful Win7, which was beta tested about 3 years before YOU heard about it. Vista was a hurry up release to save face with the stock holders. 'Nuf said there.
#2 DavidR: Ty for your response. I am aware of this fact, I chose to keep the modules intact for program update purposes. Because I do not use them now, does not mean I will not in the future. I like avast and am one of the few who realize that ALL software needs a break in period. The new v.5 seems to already have gone thru a couple of revisions eh? I was hoping that people would put these troubles in perspective, and not wipe good software just because it needs a little tweeking. Really what worked for me was turning off the auto updates. I would suggest that the good folks at avast may wish to look into it a bit. Also, when the software did the program update, it failed to reboot the system. I had to do a logic service shutdown/reboot manually, which is probably something the average user does not know how to do. Once that was done, my system came up just fine, avast still intact.
Soap box done ::)
Edit: ANd just for the record...it is not the size of your system, but the knowledge of the operator.
Try to keep that in mind.
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First thing, Why in the hellz would anyone be using Windows XP?
Maybe because it's running much smoother and faster with low system resources than any other MS OS.? ;)
Anyways W7 is a good OS, but you would need a proper system...
Also Linux is even better for security and performance, if setup right.
Peace to you, too...!! :)
asyn
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First thing, Why in the hellz would anyone be using Windows XP? Windows XP is like 10 years old, Isn't secure and is more proned to Viruses. Windows Vista wasn't a success though I had no issues with Windows Vista. However, Windows 7 is a good OS, and that is what people should be using until Windows 8 is released in 2012. I have used Avast! and never had an issue with it. Im sure some people will have an issue running Avat! on computers that are old and haven't been upgraded. Computers these days are being installed with min 2G RAM to 4G RAM! I'm sure many will disagree with my opinion on Windows XP, But you won't when the support and updates end soon!!
Peace! :)
Windows XP SP3 has full mainstream support until April 14, 2014. I wouldn't call that soon. See http://www.microsoft.com/windows/enterprise/products/windows-7/end-of-support.aspx (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/enterprise/products/windows-7/end-of-support.aspx)
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First thing, Why in the hellz would anyone be using Windows XP?
Maybe because it's running much smoother and faster with low system resources than any other MS OS.? ;)
Anyways W7 is a good OS, but you would need a proper system...
Also Linux is even better for security and performance, if setup right.
Peace to you, too...!! :)
asyn
Ty Asyn, nicely put.
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Ty Asyn, nicely put.
Thanks to you for the encouragement.. ;)
asyn
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So has the new version got any better or does the problem still live on?
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Only way to tell if its going to work on your system is try it out again on your system? ;)
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First thing, Why in the hellz would anyone be using Windows XP?
same as Asyn said :D
I had an pc machine that's 5 years old with only 0,5 GB of RAM that booted up twice as fast as an brand new Win7/WinVista (I've had both) both with 4 GB of RAM. Do I need to say more? ;D
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You know, nothing is ever perfect and all these AV products have high and low points. Sorry Avast didn't work for some of you on here, mine does work but I understand the frustrations. I had been a big AVG fan starting about 5 years ago but it like so many others has become a huge resource hog. I switched to Avast because it was highly rated and the reviews I have seen are mostly good. I started having problems with AVG and the Outlook plugin. AVG would cause Outlook to crash about 25% of the time. I have not had any of these problems with Avast. My system is the typical Win 7 64bit, 4 gigs ram and it seems to do pretty well. I also use Comodo Firewall and Malwarebytes. I have had no issue's so far with any of these or with Avast.