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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: Cako on March 18, 2010, 07:15:18 PM
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I discovered after much time end dedication, and lack of commitment of avast developers, who really does want to fix the problem with the P2P shield,
avast scans a file but he think are scanning more than 5, sometimes avast scans just one file and he think that scanning more than 60 or 80 files,is clearly a programming error.
this causes a serious problems of sound and videos using P2P programs,emule end utorrent.
P2P shield is not optimized and have this big bug.
read the topic about the problem.
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=55601.0
look at that photo with the last file scanned,was only one file,but avast think was 5.
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I don't get it, that shows the last file scanned...not last files
And by the nature of how P2P programs work, you will get lots of files scanned at the same time...
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I don't get it, that shows the last file scanned...not last files
And by the nature of how P2P programs work, you will get lots of files scanned at the same time...
thanks for answer
I thought about it, but I was in the folder where the file and has only 1 file.
1 file can not be scanned 5 times.
the test was done with 1 file.
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maybe that is an archive file that contains 5 files in it?
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maybe that is an archive file that contains 5 files in it?
thanks for answer.
its not.
its just 1 file,its a backup file.
004.part.met.bak
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but it was changed 5 times. This is how the p2p programs works. After every chunk of file is downloaded *met files are saved over and over again..
The same file can change their content almost every second.
Before you start yelling about "lack of commitment" and this kind of bs please use a google.
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but it was changed 5 times. This is how the p2p programs works. After every chunk of file is downloaded *met files are saved over and over again..
The same file can change their content almost every second.
Before you start yelling about "lack of commitment" and this kind of bs please use a google.
you know how to read graphs. ???
you know, look at the file he was scanned in a second.
in a second he (avast) thought it was scanned 5 files, not 5 times.
look,google for you:
http://www.google.com.br/#hl=pt-BR&q=how+to+read+grafics&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=a852d33e98265f06
thanks for answer
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It's pure logic.. -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
it could be THE SAME file scanned 5 times (for avast name of file doesn't matter -CONTENT is important - simply this file changed very quickly and avast rescanned it numerous of times - this is the way how p2p programs works especially utorrent)
Is to complicated for you or should I paint it or write- in bold and underline?
Beside that I would say that there are more important things then debating if it was the same file or not.
To summarize - it's not a bug it's by design and it's absolutely OK. PERIOD
EOT
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It's pure logic.. -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
it could be THE SAME file scanned 5 times (for avast name of file doesn't matter -CONTENT is important - simply this file changed very quickly and avast rescanned it numerous of times - this is the way how p2p programs works especially utorrent)
Is to complicated for you or should I paint it or write- in bold and underline?
Beside that I would say that there are more important things then debating if it was the same file or not.
To summarize - it's not a bug it's by design and it's absolutely OK. PERIOD
EOT
you again
its a bug.
use emule, let avast scan the file for several hours and listen a muisic or go to youtube, then you will see I'm right.
this is the logic of who are having this problem.
like I said,read the graph.
avast scan 1 file as if was 5,in 1 second....PERIOD end PERIOD again
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its a temp file. properties... it has the ability to repeat itself a million times if it's not completed yet.
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its a temp file. properties... it has the ability to repeat itself a million times if it's not completed yet.
thanks for answer.
even if the emule save the file 60 times the avsat should shown in the graph.
and he does not show.
or the graph is wrong, or is one of the reasons for the bug P2P shield,Maybe this is what is causing the sound problem.
thanks for the suggestion :D
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You just showed an image and were complaining that avast scanned that 5 files in a second in your first (when in fact it had scanned multiple parts of the same file), have you forgotten so soon ?
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oops sorry!! wrong term again nevermind :)
welcome !!! :)
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You just showed an image and were complaining that avast scanned that 5 files in a second in your first (when in fact it had scanned multiple parts of the same file), have you forgotten so soon ?
I do not know how to write right but avast scan 1 file thinking he is scanning 5.
"scanned multiple parts of the same file"
this may be its causing the sound problem that I have when avast scans the File,.
I think it should be optimized.
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avast doesn't care, if it scans the same file once or 5 times because the file keeps being modified by the p2p process of adding to the part file (forcing avast to scan again) it records that it has scanned 5 files, not one file 5 times.
The graphics don't support saying one file was scanned 5 times as it isn't a 3d graph but a 2d graph which records total file scanning activity over a period of time, it can't break that down into another dimension to show how many times a single file has been scanned.
What is causing the sound problem is your system resources being insufficient to cope with the p2p download with avast constantly scanning it and to be running a media player or also streaming audio over the internet. This too I believe has been explained to you in another topic where you mention problems with sound.
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DavidR -> I admire you patience :D
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DavidR -> I admire you patience :D
+1 x 109
DavidR must be on calming drugs... Truly admirable.
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I finally lost it in another topic, as it doesn't seem to matter what I or others say it simply isn't believed, so trying to explain further when it is disregarded is a waste of time.
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I finally lost it in another topic, as it doesn't seem to matter what I or others say it simply isn't believed, so trying to explain further when it is disregarded is a waste of time.
if your inteded was to explain, I said, I understood.
but it seems more a justification for the existence of the problem.
justify will not help,only actions will help..
P2P shield needs to be optimized.
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I'd rather say your capabilities of understanding need to be optimited. A task that may well turn out to be very hard to achieve.
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I'd rather say your capabilities of understanding need to be optimited. A task that may well turn out to be very hard to achieve.
yahhh, yahhh
you're right!
who am I to argue with Einstein
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Here I go jumping in with both feet again, will I ever learn
There is absolutely no point in asking for the P2P shield to be optimised if you don't state how it should be optimised, to serve what purpose, especially in its current form it does what it says on the tin, it will scan downloads of all p2p traffic for supported p2p applications.
Now if that p2p application splits a file into many, many packets and gets them from multiple locations, adding them to a single which is constantly modified than avast will rescan the modified file. That is a fact of life, the file has been changed, it needs to be rescanned.
If it isn't rescanned just because it is the same file name, this makes the whole point of having a p2p shield pointless, so you might as well switch it off if that is what you want avast to do. Of course you could always do that if you want already and have your p2p application have avast scan the completed download (if it has that functionality in the p2p application) using ashQuick.exe.
Now I really am done.
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Here I go jumping in with both feet again, will I ever learn
There is absolutely no point in asking for the P2P shield to be optimised if you don't state how it should be optimised, to serve what purpose, especially in its current form it does what it says on the tin, it will scan downloads of all p2p traffic for supported p2p applications.
Now if that p2p application splits a file into many, many packets and gets them from multiple locations, adding them to a single which is constantly modified than avast will rescan the modified file. That is a fact of life, the file has been changed, it needs to be rescanned.
If it isn't rescanned just because it is the same file name, this makes the whole point of having a p2p shield pointless, so you might as well switch it off if that is what you want avast to do. Of course you could always do that if you want already and have your p2p application have avast scan the completed download (if it has that functionality in the p2p application) using ashQuick.exe.
Now I really am done.
is exactly the same problem that occurred in the web shield when the final version of avast was launched.
you have eMule installed on your pc??
install wait a few hours and listen music.
see if it's nice.
in my avast I already disable emule and utorrent, so I dont have more problems, this solution is temporary, I would like a final solution.
I know, avast will scan the file when it is completed.
the problem does not happen when it scans the same file 5 times or 80 times,happens when it scans more than 100 thousand files.
the problem can not be the number of files,but a memory scan after scanning many files.
that's why I insisted to ALWIL do some tests but they do not respond.
great suport !!!! >:(
DavidR,thank you for the explanation :)
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It is a compatibility problem with uTorrent and emule. It is because the way utorrent download the torrent file. It had been discussed before, search the forum.
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30011.msg247365#msg247365
They know what is the problem, VKL had explained to you lot of times and you dont understand. What is your hurry to fix the problem? There are more important problems to fix(like crashed, BSOD, ect). You will be protected by the resident shield even you disable the P2P shield for those programs.
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It is a compatibility problem with uTorrent and emule. It is because the way utorrent download the torrent file. It had been discussed before, search the forum.
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30011.msg247365#msg247365
They know what is the problem, VKL had explained to you lot of times and you dont understand. What is your hurry to fix the problem? There are more important problems to fix(like crashed, BSOD, ect). You will be protected by the resident shield even you disable the P2P shield for those programs.
thanks.
but still with many problems for a long time (since 2007), I still think, if the avast scan 1 file only 1 time it probably can resolve.
optimize the P2P shield.
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Hahaahah!
Cako for many months reading on Avast forums your the only person really TOUGH!! im sure many Evangelist and Mods will never forget you! ;D
You have post different threads regarding your issues.
I think the best solution to stop this arguing is to change your AV.
Their are plenty AV's their.
I hope that would fix your issue. 8)
If not? you can bash their forum also. :D
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I haven't read all except for the first post but I'll make my points now.
avast! is not flawed on this part. avast! is scanning multiple files because torrent makes use of pipelining (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_pipeline) -- packets of data are chunked into pieces and downloaded simultaneously from multiple sources (Seeders & Peers). To prove it, see uTorrent's Pieces tab. Thus, each packet of data from every source is scanned individually and simultaneously causing the increase in number of files scanned. These packets would be compiled together as one file once all packets were done downloading.
EDIT: Added some details and links.
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I haven't read all except for the first post but I'll make my points now.
avast! is not flawed on this part. avast! is scanning multiple files because torrent makes use of pipelining (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_pipeline) -- packets of data are chunked into pieces and downloaded simultaneously from multiple sources (Seeders & Peers). To prove it, see uTorrent's Pieces tab. Thus, each packet of data from every source is scanned individually and simultaneously causing the increase in number of files scanned. These packets would be compiled together as one file once all packets were done downloading.
EDIT: Added some details and links.
thanks for the reply,I'll read the link you gave.
End I'll keep looking for a permanent solution to my problem. :)