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Title: What is the best!
Post by: rnuis on March 22, 2010, 11:47:59 AM
What is the Best:

Avast 5 internet Security

            or

Avast 5 Free and a other Firewall like: Commodo , PC Tools or Outpost.


What do you think is the best!!!
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 22, 2010, 11:58:29 AM
What is the Best:

can't tell u, whats the best 4 u...
can tell u, what works well 4 me. (see sig) ;)

Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rnuis on March 22, 2010, 12:00:33 PM
What is the Best:

can't tell u, whats the best 4 u...
can tell u, what works well 4 me. (see sig) ;)



What's the best for you then??
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 22, 2010, 12:19:08 PM
What's the best for you then??

asuming u cant see my sig... ??? ;)

i use avast along with comodo fw/d+
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: vahik on March 22, 2010, 12:51:37 PM
 
 I think avast internet security is best

 
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rnuis on March 22, 2010, 02:10:57 PM
What's the best for you then??

asuming u cant see my sig... ??? ;)

i use avast along with comodo fw/d+


Avast Pro or Avast Free???
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 22, 2010, 02:48:46 PM
Avast Pro or Avast Free???

using free here, since this is my private pc. no probs with it.
have also experienced the pro version on a couple of other sytems runs well.
i, at this point of development, wont use the avast fw for myself right now.
i need greater flexibility, but thats only my point of view...
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rnuis on March 22, 2010, 03:33:53 PM
Avast Pro or Avast Free???

using free here, since this is my private pc. no probs with it.
have also experienced the pro version on a couple of other sytems runs well.
i, at this point of development, wont use the avast fw for myself right now.
i need greater flexibility, but thats only my point of view...


I've tryed commodo with avast 5 free in the past but my system begin too freeze so is pc tools firewall also a good firewall??
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Shiw Liang on March 22, 2010, 03:42:01 PM
Well if you want a very good security avast Internet Security is recommended
If you want only avast with no firewall then the pro version will be the best for you
If you don't have any money like me then you can use the free version with other programs for protection

Avast Free has:
Same update as Pro and Internet Security
Same (IM shield,Network shield,Web shield,file system shield,mail shield,P2P shield and behaviour shield)

Avast Pro has:
Virtualisation something...
Sandbox
Script Shield
Faster Update

Avast Internet Security:
Has a firewall which protects you from Identity theft
Also antispam

Up to you which one you want and which one suits the best for your computer at home/office
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Rednose on March 22, 2010, 04:11:24 PM
Hi rnuis :)

A free setup I recommend these days is : Online Armor Free - Avast! Free Antivirus - Sandboxie - Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware ( On-Demand )

All available in Dutch ( except Avast! Free Antivirus at the moment ).

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rnuis on March 22, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
Hi rnuis :)

A free setup I recommend these days is : Online Armor Free - Avast! Free Antivirus - Sandboxie - Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware ( On-Demand )

All available in Dutch ( except Avast! Free Antivirus at the moment ).

Greetz, Red.

But Online Armor Free isn't easy in use or am i wrong??
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: disPlay on March 22, 2010, 07:06:37 PM
You are wrong in fact it's very easy.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: EntitY on March 22, 2010, 07:16:03 PM
The software combination in a Suite is designed not to conflict with each other, which is a good thing for the noob and average user. I have tried using different 3rd party firewalls in the past, but run into problems after three days. There is more to know about 3rd party firewalls than most average users even realize.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Rednose on March 22, 2010, 11:03:11 PM
But Online Armor Free isn't easy in use or am i wrong??

In my opinion, for an average user Online Armor is easier to use than for example Comodo ( both are great products ). Maybe this Dutch Online Armor support page can be of any help :

http://www.online-armor-firewall.nl/webhelp/index.html

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: waking on March 23, 2010, 07:03:16 AM
The software combination in a Suite is designed not to conflict with each other, which is a good thing for the noob and average user.

There is another aspect of mixing AV and FW products which could
potentially leave a user vulnerable - at least theoretically.

Security solution providers do not always agree whether a certain
protection component should be part of an AV or part of a FW. So
that protection mechanism *may* be part of either the AV or the FW.
If a wrong choice is made, the user *could* be left without that
protection.

Hypothetical case:

Protection feature "X" is deemed to be part of an AV by Product "A".
The same feature "X" is deemed to be part of a FW by Product "B".

Product "A" offers an AV and a free-standing FW (sans "X").
Product "B" offers an AV (sans "X") and a Security Suite with FW.

Choosing either Product "A" or "B" as a complete AV/FW package
gives the user the protection of feature "X".

But if a user chooses to install the Product "A" FW and the Product
"B" AV, they will lack feature "X" protection.

Moral: Check the included features lists carefully when mixing
security products from different providers.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 23, 2010, 09:50:37 AM
In my opinion, for an average user Online Armor is easier to use than for example Comodo ( both are great products ).

i agree. if u talk bout the 3.x version of comodo. the new 4.x is much easier 2 use 4 unexpirienced users, but i wouldn't use it right now, there r still some bugs (sandboxing feature), as this version is rather new.

i think best 4:
experienced users: comodo (best flexibility if u know what u do - can even block itself :D )
average users: online armor (it's a really good fw, but not that flexible)
unexperienced users: system integrated fw (don't have 2 think about it)

asyn
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Shiw Liang on March 23, 2010, 05:20:44 PM
Well comodo has put another new option to their firewall which is a sandbox which is present in the free version or comodo and also in the pro version :)
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 23, 2010, 06:40:58 PM
Well comodo has put another new option to their firewall which is a sandbox which is present in the free version or comodo and also in the pro version :)

true.
but, as stated in my last post - don't use comodo 4 with the sandbox feature (partly insecures ur sys). they're just trying to get the bugs fixed, so maybe later. if u urgently need sandboxing, u can use sandboxie.
asyn

btw: @rednose: didn't fully get your ABX explanation, bit confusing... ;)

Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Rednose on March 23, 2010, 06:45:56 PM
btw: @rednose: didn't fully get your ABX explanation, bit confusing... ;)

You mean : @waking ;)

Greetz, Red.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 23, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
You mean : @waking ;)

Greetz, Red.

yes... ;D
asyn
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rambo1940 on March 23, 2010, 07:24:18 PM
Finding an top quality AV is really dependent on which one,and there are many,sits on your computer without conflicting with other programs.
I have tried many and Avast free is the only one that dosn't cause problems.
Firewalls are a real pain.I have tried just about all of them,Free and Paid for.
Comodo used to be great but recently they have been more interested in adding more Bells an Whistles rather than attending to problems.
I discarded it some months ago
I have found that the Windows Firewall is the only one that dosn't screw my system.The Firewall in Windows 7 is two way.
Even on my XP computer I have found that the Windows one way firewall is good enough.i do have an additional firewall in my router.
So i think the answer is try everything until you find the the software that works perfectly on your system.
Regards
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: bong2x on March 23, 2010, 07:36:06 PM
Quote
So i think the answer is try everything until you find the the software that works perfectly on your system
+100

you must find the combination that fit in to your system :D ;)
you got the best answer in searching security software :D ;D
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 23, 2010, 07:39:42 PM
So i think the answer is try everything until you find the the software that works perfectly on your system.

well spoken, absolutely agree!
nevertheless there are!! some people out there, who can tell u what's best 4 your system/needs/knowledge as the tend 2 keep up 2 date, which is hard enough... ;)
asyn
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: waking on March 23, 2010, 08:56:37 PM
btw: @waking: didn't fully get your ABX explanation, bit confusing... ;)

Well, apologies if it wasn't clear enough. Let me try one more example.
Consider these hypothetical products:

Brand "Y" AV includes anti-spam/phishing.
Brand "Y" FW does NOT include anti-spam/phishing.

Brand "Z" AV does NOT include anti-spam/phishing.
Brand "Z" FW includes anti-spam/phishing.

If you install Brand "Y" AV & FW you have protection
against spam/phishing.

Similarly, if you install Brand "Z" AV & FW you have
protection against spam/phishing.

If you install Brand "Y" AV & Brand "Z" FW, you will
have *double* protection against spam/phishing.

But if you chose to install Brand "Y" FW and Brand "Z" AV,
you would NOT have any anti-spam/phishing protection.

So there is a (at least theoretical) risk that you *may*
be missing some protection if care isn't exercised when
combining AV and FW from different providers.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 23, 2010, 11:22:02 PM
Well, apologies if it wasn't clear enough. Let me try one more example.

please don't apologize!
i know it's not always that easy to explain things.
thanks 4 setting it clear. :)
asyn
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Shiw Liang on March 24, 2010, 05:54:11 AM
Well, apologies if it wasn't clear enough. Let me try one more example.

please don't apologize!
i know it's not always that easy to explain things.
thanks 4 setting it clear. :)
asyn

Wait is sandboxie free O.O?
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 24, 2010, 05:00:18 PM
Wait is sandboxie free O.O?

afaik: yes... :D

Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: mkis on March 24, 2010, 05:45:10 PM
My experience here is limited, but this should give you basic idea.

sandboxie free is a stand-alone sandbox program. It can work independent of yr other protections just like like avast can work as an antivirus on its own.

However, I haven't tried sandboxie yet, so no idea how it works. I would guess that you would put a program in the sandbox and you would run it in there, say Internet Explorer or Facebook, which is good example, you open the sandbox, then look for yr Facebook link and open it inside the sandbox (I guess).

here's how avast sandbox works --
The virtualisation thing in Pro (and in Security Suite) is the avast sandbox feature, Shiw Liang. It's quite simple to use from what I can work out - you open Process Virtualisation and scroll to the bottom of the page to Run a virtualized process...  You click this and Explore will open so that you can navigate to the program or app that you want, and then you simply open that.

The program or app will open inside a special window with a red border - inside a sandbox.
Ultimately, the sandbox protects yr web resources - the browser and the plugins. That are not so easily protected at desktop level. In turn yr desktop becomes yet further removed from potential infection zones.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rnuis on March 24, 2010, 07:30:29 PM
i had tride Online Armor but my system got a bit slower , now i am using PC Tools Firewall and my system works bit faster. Is Pc Tools  Firewall also a good Firewall then???
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rambo1940 on March 24, 2010, 07:43:10 PM
It is considered to be in the top four or five firewalls.
A good choice if it does not screw up you computer.
Regards
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rnuis on March 24, 2010, 08:10:45 PM
It is considered to be in the top four or five firewalls.
A good choice if it does not screw up you computer.
Regards

What top five do you mean then? And how does that top five look like then?? i hope for a anwser back
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rambo1940 on March 24, 2010, 09:52:52 PM
http://www.techsupportalert.com/

Look here under Firewalls
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rambo1940 on March 24, 2010, 09:56:12 PM
Look under Security first then Firewalls
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 24, 2010, 10:05:19 PM
That are not so easily protected at desktop level. In turn yr desktop becomes yet further removed from potential infection zones.

true true true.
took me bout 6 hours. but at least i've not 2 depend on any, rather seldom good working, sandboxing feature - exept sandboxie, imo.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 24, 2010, 10:07:42 PM
i had tride Online Armor but my system got a bit slower , now i am using PC Tools Firewall and my system works bit faster. Is Pc Tools  Firewall also a good Firewall then???

yes it is a quite good fw, not on top 4 me, but works well.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rnuis on March 25, 2010, 10:45:51 AM
Ok i've installed commodo 4 on my system and it works great it is very easy in use and doesn't slow down my system. But what are the best confrugations for Commodo then too be save and where can i test my firewall that it is save??
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rambo1940 on March 25, 2010, 11:04:12 AM
You would be well advised to ask your question on the Comodo Forum.
They are very helpful
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: rambo1940 on March 25, 2010, 11:13:42 AM
here


https://forums.comodo.com/comodo-internet-security-cis-b125.0/
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: Asyn on March 25, 2010, 12:38:32 PM
You would be well advised to ask your question on the Comodo Forum.
They are very helpful

there's also a forum in dutch on their site, if u prefer... :)
asyn

https://forums.comodo.com/nederlands-dutch-b75.0/
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: twl845 on March 25, 2010, 02:24:57 PM
The choice of software is up to you. As for me, I like the layered approach rather than using a suite. I use Avast! Free, but could eventually get Pro, Outpost FW, MBAM real time, SAS on demand, and SpywareBlaster.
Title: Re: What is the best!
Post by: vahik on March 25, 2010, 02:29:51 PM
 
 I use  (avast 5 free + zemana antilogger+windows firewall )

 this is very good choice for my PC