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Title: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: stormer on April 14, 2010, 05:06:01 PM
Hey,

I just want to know why a Behaviour Shield was chosen over a HIPS module?

It's nothing serious, but I'm curious.


Thanks in advance.

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Also when does support for Avast 4.8 end (updates and product)?
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Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: RZPogi on April 14, 2010, 05:14:18 PM
HIPS can be very annoying and dangerous sometimes because it is dependent on user. HIPS is for the pros only.

As far that I know, they still releasing virus updates for avast 4.8 until September this year. There are no more program updates for 4.8
Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: snarky on April 14, 2010, 10:40:55 PM
Having a HIPS is like having a full-time hobby.  An annoying full-time hobby.  I used to use a HIPS and spent lots of time configuring the death out of it, until I realized that no malware had ever screwed me over nearly as much as that software had.
Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: Vlk on April 14, 2010, 10:46:56 PM
We generally consider the classical HIPS as a 1st generation solution that gradually evolved in the 2nd generation behavioral solutions more intelligent to not ask many (if any) question... You know, for the most part, the user has always been the weakest link in the chain - and this applied not only to the average Joe but also to the geeks. And the reason for this is that the more questions you're getting, the more annoyed you are and the the less attention you give to them... so that the one REALLY important questions that you eventually get when the latest and greatest piece of malware hits your rig will simply be overlooked and answered incorrectly.

HTH,
Vlk
Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: RejZoR on April 14, 2010, 10:56:45 PM
Though i'd like to see Behavior Shield actually do something sometime. Have tried many samples and not a single one has invoked it. Hardly any even caused any activity under it. So i'm now really wondering about it's true effectiveness.
Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: bri on April 15, 2010, 04:29:01 AM
hips may be annoying but having a behavior blocker that doesnt even work?not too much better.i have both 32 and 64 bit systems and i dont care what anyone says it doesnt work.ive been infected on vista 32 bit and not one peep from the bb,if it does work it needs a lot of work.
Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: Yanto.Chiang on April 15, 2010, 05:13:32 AM
Hi Ondrej,

How strong behavior shield compared with HIPS?

Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: stormer on April 15, 2010, 08:31:09 PM
Thanks for all the replies.
Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: Lisandro on April 17, 2010, 04:01:02 AM
And the reason for this is that the more questions you're getting, the more annoyed you are and the the less attention you give to them... so that the one REALLY important questions that you eventually get when the latest and greatest piece of malware hits your rig will simply be overlooked and answered incorrectly.
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Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: firzen771 on April 17, 2010, 03:27:12 PM
Though i'd like to see Behavior Shield actually do something sometime. Have tried many samples and not a single one has invoked it. Hardly any even caused any activity under it. So i'm now really wondering about it's true effectiveness.

agreed...
Title: Re: Why did ALWIL team not choose HIPS?
Post by: Lisandro on April 17, 2010, 03:46:51 PM
Though i'd like to see Behavior Shield actually do something sometime. Have tried many samples and not a single one has invoked it. Hardly any even caused any activity under it. So i'm now really wondering about it's true effectiveness.

agreed...
+1