Avast WEBforum

Other => General Topics => Topic started by: j.m.reid on May 07, 2010, 02:30:40 PM

Title: Google .
Post by: j.m.reid on May 07, 2010, 02:30:40 PM
Any of the forum members got an easy solution I could use to remove  the Google "Everthing " sidebar ? I am using I.E 7 and have wasted hrs trying system restore , altering settings and asking other family members if they had changed anything , only to  later find many other irate users with this problem on the web. Thank you .
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 07, 2010, 02:46:04 PM
forget system restore ::) that's a Google feature, if it can't be turned off through Google search settings, then it can't be turned off  ;)
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: YoKenny on May 07, 2010, 02:48:25 PM
IE8 is much better and safer than IE7.

Is the Google toolbar in Tools then Manage Add-ons?
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: j.m.reid on May 07, 2010, 02:50:25 PM
forget system restore ::) that's a Google feature, if it can't be turned off through Google search settings, then it can't be turned off  ;)

Thanks for reply , I found that out after trying a few restore points last night .
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 07, 2010, 02:52:56 PM
Quote
Is the Google toolbar in Tools then Manage Add-ons?

he's not talking about anything in the Google toolbar, but about the new side bar in Google search...
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: j.m.reid on May 07, 2010, 02:54:47 PM
IE8 is much better and safer than IE7.

Is the Google toolbar in Tools then Manage Add-ons?

Tried I.E 8 when it came out and preferred I.E 7 . You don't have any option to disable this function . Plenty of people on the web going crazy about it being enforced on users .
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: j.m.reid on May 07, 2010, 02:56:01 PM
Quote
Is the Google toolbar in Tools then Manage Add-ons?

he's not talking about anything in the Google toolbar, but about the new side bar in Google search...

 Correct , sorry if given wrong info .
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: YoKenny on May 07, 2010, 03:27:31 PM
Use Scroogle scraper:
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: DavidR on May 07, 2010, 04:00:37 PM
I would rather put up with this than use scroogle scraper the look is absolutely terrible, and I'm normally not one to care about aesthetics over function but this makes me sick.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: j.m.reid on May 07, 2010, 11:21:54 PM
Thanks to all for help . If I come across solution , I'll get back to forum .
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Chris Thomas on May 08, 2010, 07:29:55 AM
Toolbars are actually useless!

I learned never to use them because installing is easy and removal is tough in some cases
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: DavidR on May 08, 2010, 02:24:41 PM
It isn't a toolbar, read the topic and essentially look at the image provided by Logos in Reply #4.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: spg SCOTT on May 08, 2010, 02:40:03 PM
Found this:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web+Search/thread?tid=40d58b5e9200afc4&hl=en

So you can use:
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=all

Seems the google forums are on fire with this...

-Scott-
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 08, 2010, 02:51:42 PM
I'm not sure this link will work forever, as they'll probably get rid of the old interface once the new one gets implemented everywhere. I've had the new interface off and on, they've been testing during months, so I wonder why people didn't shout before the final implementation yesterday ;D
...not even mentioning that the new interface is an improvement imo, but people need to shout when anything changes ::)
 and hey, there's more to come, I've seen a new interface for the news too, and that's in the same style ;D
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: DavidR on May 08, 2010, 03:11:23 PM
<snip>
Seems the google forums are on fire with this...
<snip>

This is another good link on this very hot subject, http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web%20Search/thread?tid=67f6459e09a827ee&hl=en (http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web%20Search/thread?tid=67f6459e09a827ee&hl=en) it has a number of other related topics in wait for it the 'Right hand' side bar.

So now we have one really long thin middle column with the results in that topic ironic ;D

This by all accounts stems from the iGoogle or personalised google interface, so leave these who don't use iGoogle alone.

I came to google many years ago as it was a breath of fresh, clean air with an uncluttered look and feel. I don't doubt that this was why many others used google when it first came out, before it became a by word for search 'google it.'

They have shot themselves in the foot here.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: YoKenny on May 08, 2010, 03:14:39 PM
I like Tempest in a teapot discussions.  ;D
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 08, 2010, 03:17:08 PM
main feedback thread here: ;D
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Web%20Search/thread?tid=2b617300e762035c&hl=en
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: DavidR on May 08, 2010, 03:49:09 PM
You may like to check out this page on how to do something about it, http://webtrickz.com/removehidedisable-sidebar-in-new-google-search-results/ (http://webtrickz.com/removehidedisable-sidebar-in-new-google-search-results/).

Quote
To Disable Google search sidebar in Firefox, install the add-on Hide Google Options. You can easily enable/disable it anytime from status bar in just a single click.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: bob3160 on May 08, 2010, 04:18:24 PM
New Videos from Google:
Updates to Google Search (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-rnxNFRAQA&feature=digest)
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 08, 2010, 04:31:48 PM
this new interface is fantastic, and I'm really upset with people's reactions ::) I guess I should get used to it, it's always the same when changes occur, the old one was always better ::) ...as you may have noticed in my posts here, I'm far from being a philanthropist, and every time something like that happen, how the majority reacts to new good stuff (I insist on "good", the new interface is just brilliant), I know why I'm not...a philanthropist ;D

ps: I've been there when Vista came out, been there too when KDE 4 in Linux came out etc... ::)
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: bob3160 on May 08, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
this new interface is fantastic, and I'm really upset with people's reactions ::) I guess I should get used to it, it's always the same when changes occur, the old one was always better ::) ...as you may have noticed in my posts here, I'm far from being a philanthropist, and every time something like that happen, how the majority reacts to new good stuff (I insist on "good", the new interface is just brilliant), I know why I'm not...a philanthropist ;D

ps: I've been there when Vista came out, been there too when KDE 4 in Linux came out etc... ::)

The same objections are also there when it comes to the new interface of avast!.  ;D
There will always be those that appose change of any kind even when it's for the better. :)
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 08, 2010, 04:44:33 PM
this new interface is fantastic, and I'm really upset with people's reactions ::) I guess I should get used to it, it's always the same when changes occur, the old one was always better ::) ...as you may have noticed in my posts here, I'm far from being a philanthropist, and every time something like that happen, how the majority reacts to new good stuff (I insist on "good", the new interface is just brilliant), I know why I'm not...a philanthropist ;D

ps: I've been there when Vista came out, been there too when KDE 4 in Linux came out etc... ::)

The same objections are also there when it comes to the new interface of avast!.  ;D
There will always be those that appose change of any kind even when it's for the better. :)

true, I didn't mention it but that's also exactly what happened when Avast 5 came out, people looking for skins etc...asking to implement all the old features back ;D
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: DavidR on May 08, 2010, 04:50:47 PM
It isn't because its new, its because it gives one very long thin column with large white bands (side bars), once you get past the small section of the side bar with any data. This makes the page much longer to contain the same number of search results and much more scrolling.

Why they didn't simply have a Hide option like many sites and browsers do to hide side bars if they become obtrusive is beyond me, then there wouldn't have been as much of a storm in a tea cup rather than YoKenny's Tempest in a Teapot.

Judging by the numbers of people showing their discontent on the google forums I would say those who love it are in the minority, certainly on the google forum topics about this.

No such problem here with the Firefox Hide Google Options add-on installed, which removes the side bar.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 08, 2010, 04:56:14 PM
so you mind the side bar but you don't mind the colorful tabs and the Gnome theme (Noia 2) on Firefox ;D
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: DavidR on May 08, 2010, 06:11:46 PM
I wouldn't have installed the add-on if I didn't like them, they unlike this weren't forced on me with no option to remove it. As such a bad comparison (unlike the forced google side bar), since they were a personal choice and don't take up any more room or effect the page layout.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 08, 2010, 06:37:26 PM
I wouldn't have installed the add-on if I didn't like them, they unlike this weren't forced on me with no option to remove it. As such a bad comparison (unlike the forced google side bar), since they were a personal choice and don't take up any more room or effect the page layout.

my post was sarcastic ;) I know that's your personal choice David I know...you just opted for a skin and a tab extension that would make me stop using a computer for the rest of my life  :D while you're blaming Google (I read your post on their forums) for improving things considerably, you also blame the cosmetic side of the new interface...okay...you'd rather die than switch to Vista or Seven... (as if the 2014 support deadline for xp was a valid justification)...I mean this is all very coherent...and we're all free people living in a free world... :)
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: DavidR on May 08, 2010, 07:44:04 PM
I also saw your post and truly there are times when I think that you take a contrary view just to wind people up. You also put words into peoples mouths, I have never said anywhere that I would rather die than switch to Vista or Win7.

So this to me is going off at another tangent just to keep the contrary side going when I have said that your argument/sarcasm doesn't hold water as the comparison is like chalk and cheese, completely different.

Yes, the new google interface looks bad when you get past the small area of the side tabs but there is absolutely acres of wasted screen space and to me it looks ugly. You mention we are all free people living in a free world well that freedom given by the google change is to either take it or leave it no option to close the side bar

This I feel is a shame to deny the configurability on the basic search engine interface/layout when google have gone some way with their iGoogle/MyGoogle inferface and high degree of user configurability.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 08, 2010, 08:28:58 PM
Quote
I also saw your post and truly there are times when I think that you take a contrary view just to wind people up

nope, don't have that much time to waste you're kidding ::) especially when you're insisting to tell Google that they shot themselves in the foot, wow this is gonna hurt ;D ...
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: DavidR on May 08, 2010, 09:18:29 PM
It isn't going to hurt me, as I said in my post on that topic, those that don't like it (most of the 350+ posts on that topic), are going to do something about it either move to another clean search engine (which may or may not hurt google), ixquick, altavista.

Or do what I have done install the Hide Google Options and they may take a step further in using something like OptimizeGoogle add-on and remove even more and block ads on all google services. In the past I haven't blocked google ads based on the service they were providing.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: polonus on May 08, 2010, 09:28:30 PM
Hi DavidR,

That plug-in even exists for GoogleChrome: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/jcacnmibccjjonfihgnieefkingolocb
And for Fx: http://www.seotools.com/hide-google-options/index.htm

polonus
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 08, 2010, 09:34:02 PM
...I don't think Google has anything to fear from any other search engine...at least not for the next ten or twenty years minimum...they have an edge over the others like MS has with Windows in the operating system area...we know how long this can last now ;D as to running an extension or a script, many will use that...will be interesting to know the percentage, and it's obviously too early to tell...I doubt this will have the same success like AdB+ has...
 To tell you the truth, they wanted to bring a new design allowing to reach anything on the web, and I'd say "mission completed so far". The rest isn't very interesting. People will learn how to use the new interface and it won't take more than a couple of months until they hate the old version, or just forget it ever existed.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: DavidR on May 08, 2010, 11:20:17 PM
Hi DavidR,

That plug-in even exists for GoogleChrome: https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/jcacnmibccjjonfihgnieefkingolocb
And for Fx: http://www.seotools.com/hide-google-options/index.htm

Yes, I know and have it installed already, as my image in Reply #22 shows.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: YoKenny on May 09, 2010, 12:31:16 PM
this new interface is fantastic, and I'm really upset with people's reactions ::)
I'm not upset as I would hate to become a curmudgeon. ;)
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: j.m.reid on May 09, 2010, 02:06:18 PM
, and I'm really upset with people's reactions ::) I guess I should get used to it, it's always the same when changes occur, the old one was always better ::) ...as you may have noticed in my posts here, I'm far from being a philanthropist, and every time something like that happen, how the majority reacts to new good stuff (I insist on "good", the new interface is just brilliant), I know why I'm not...a philanthropist ;D

ps: I've been there when Vista came out, been there too when KDE 4 in Linux came out etc... ::)

As the original poster of this abhorence enforced upon users of Google ,you comments "this new interface is fantastic " must put you in the tiniest minority known to man , going by all the reaction world wide .As a comedian on Parkinson once said " it's as popular as a fart in a spacesuit " The reasons people all over detest this , are succintly put by David R.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 09, 2010, 02:23:03 PM
, and I'm really upset with people's reactions ::) I guess I should get used to it, it's always the same when changes occur, the old one was always better ::) ...as you may have noticed in my posts here, I'm far from being a philanthropist, and every time something like that happen, how the majority reacts to new good stuff (I insist on "good", the new interface is just brilliant), I know why I'm not...a philanthropist ;D

ps: I've been there when Vista came out, been there too when KDE 4 in Linux came out etc... ::)

As the original poster of this abhorence enforced upon users of Google ,you comments "this new interface is fantastic " must put you in the tiniest minority known to man , going by all the reaction world wide .As a comedian on Parkinson once said " it's as popular as a fart in a spacesuit " The reasons people all over detest this , are succintly put by David R.

all these reactions were expected...they don't matter, they're just a part of that usual and very ordinary social game...your reference to DavidR makes your argument convincing...go ahead ;D

Title: Re: Google .
Post by: bob3160 on May 09, 2010, 06:21:31 PM
David's argument against this new sidebar only enforces my post.
(Windows XP forever.)  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: YoKenny on May 11, 2010, 01:51:26 PM
Use Scroogle scraper:
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm

Quote
We regret to announce that our Google scraper may have to be permanently retired, thanks to a change at Google. It depends on whether Google is willing to restore the simple interface that we've been scraping since Scroogle started five years ago. Actually, we've been using that interface for scraping since Google-Watch.org began in 2002.
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Pondus on May 11, 2010, 07:18:09 PM
How to access the old Google Search. No hacks or scripts required.

As you will probably know, Google Search has had somewhat of a face lift over the last week.

To say there has been an uproar over the latest update would be a lie, but there are plenty of people (as with any change) that would like to see the old version back.

http://thenextweb.com/lifehacks/2010/05/09/how-to-access-the-old-google-search-no-hacks-or-scripts-required/
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: YoKenny on May 11, 2010, 07:57:40 PM
@ Pondus

Go to http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=all in IE then Tools then Internet Options then copy-n-paste that URL in Home page window.
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Lisandro on May 11, 2010, 08:34:26 PM
Old is better.
Why should we lose all that vertical space with that info? ???

Is there a way to locally send www.google.com to http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=all (at least on Firefox)?
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 11, 2010, 08:42:14 PM
what were you doing with that vertical space? ;D
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Lisandro on May 11, 2010, 08:44:44 PM
what were you doing with that vertical space? ;D
Losing monitor space...
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Hermite15 on May 11, 2010, 08:47:17 PM
what were you doing with that vertical space? ;D
Losing monitor space...

i.e. wasting, ok got it... (edit: this was a bit sarcastic, I don't think there's any issue ;D )
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Lisandro on May 11, 2010, 08:49:28 PM
I hope they do not add tons of ads in that space in the future...
Title: Re: Google .
Post by: Pondus on May 11, 2010, 09:21:38 PM
@ Pondus

Go to http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=all in IE then Tools then Internet Options then copy-n-paste that URL in Home page window.

why.......  8)