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Title: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 26, 2010, 10:22:29 PM
My previous version of Avast (before v. 5.0.545) worked great with my POP Gmail in Thunderbird 2.0.  Now, there is an issue with Gmail's SSL setting.    I searched for a fix but only found a drawn out dog and pony show..  Not to mention the need to download another program!

With the popularity of Gmail you would think the Avast people would have fixed this issue.  But whats got me spinning is why didn't the previous version have the Gmail SSL issue?

If I'm missing something please let me know.  Otherwise, I'm uninstalling Avast and going else where.

Thanks,
Nylo
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Hermite15 on May 26, 2010, 10:33:33 PM
can I ask you what your settings are in Thunderbird? ports and security modes used for POP and SMTP?

Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: YoKenny on May 26, 2010, 10:34:52 PM
Simple solutions:

1. Do not have Mail Shield scan Gmail
2. Do not have Mail Shield installed.

I choose no. 2 as File Shield scans all files when accessed.
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 26, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
In:    pop.gmail.com port: 995
Out:  SMTP.gmail.com Port: 587

SSL checked.
Secure connection: TLS

can I ask you what your settings are in Thunderbird? ports and security modes used for POP and SMTP?


Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 26, 2010, 11:02:10 PM
But this will leave the door open for emailed nasties...  Right?

Simple solutions:

1. Do not have Mail Shield scan Gmail
2. Do not have Mail Shield installed.

I choose no. 2 as File Shield scans all files when accessed.
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Hermite15 on May 26, 2010, 11:04:49 PM
Simple solutions:

1. Do not have Mail Shield scan Gmail
2. Do not have Mail Shield installed.

I choose no. 2 as File Shield scans all files when accessed.

not the first time you're posting this Yokenny...you're advising again to a poster who doesn't have the correct settings for the mail shield not to use the mail shield at all....

 @ the OP: ignore Yokenny's post ... whether the file shield scans or not mail files is another debate, completely off topic here.
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: sded on May 26, 2010, 11:16:12 PM
See the thread http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.0 .  There are pictures of exactly how to set up Thunderbird 2 to use Gmail with Avast! 5.0.545.  Previous version 4 didn't scan gmail at all unless you went through the Stunnel scenario.  Don't know how your search missed it.
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Hermite15 on May 26, 2010, 11:18:39 PM
In:    pop.gmail.com port: 995
Out:  SMTP.gmail.com Port: 587

SSL checked.
Secure connection: TLS



okay, this just means that you never used the mail shield before. The only difference is that before, in previous Avast builds, the mail shield proxy was ignoring your settings, but now there's a bug. So you can either go on like before, by deactivating the mail shield which I certainly won't advise, or get it to work for the first time ;D

 >>> in Thunderbird: change 995 for 110 and set security to none
                            leave 587 but switch security to "none"
(this does just mean that Avast will do the ssl job >>> the mail shield is also a proxy

...see if it works now...it should, if not post back and we'll check your Avast settings
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Hermite15 on May 26, 2010, 11:22:17 PM
@ Nylo

Do you trust a blind chicken with a bottle of French wine or an experienced malware destroyer ???

::) just get out of here...  you have nothing to post so don't post okay? you're experienced with what ??? what exactly ??? is that how you destroy malware >>> see pic below ;D
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 26, 2010, 11:32:36 PM
That link is for TH3.0.  Im using TH2.0 because BirdieSync wont play well with TH3.0.

See the thread http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.0 .  There are pictures of exactly how to set up Thunderbird 2 to use Gmail with Avast! 5.0.545.  Previous version 4 didn't scan gmail at all unless you went through the Stunnel scenario.  Don't know how your search missed it.
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: sded on May 26, 2010, 11:38:36 PM
I'll post some for 2.0.0.24 then.  :)  For imap, use imap.gmail.com and port 143.  Avast! will intercept your mail and translate them to the proper ports to access your mail server in secure mode via OpenSSL so that the mail can be scanned.  The SSL accounts shown are from avast! mail shield/expert settings/ssl accounts and is what should be generated by Avast!.
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Hermite15 on May 26, 2010, 11:38:56 PM
That link is for TH3.0.  Im using TH2.0 because BirdieSync wont play well with TH3.0.

See the thread http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.0 .  There are pictures of exactly how to set up Thunderbird 2 to use Gmail with Avast! 5.0.545.  Previous version 4 didn't scan gmail at all unless you went through the Stunnel scenario.  Don't know how your search missed it.

doesn't make any difference, thb2 or 3, the settings are the same. So do what I told you here, or see the screen shots posted in the other thread by me and sded, it's the same http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.msg506322#msg506322
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Hermite15 on May 26, 2010, 11:46:55 PM
Is he active at malware removal ???
http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?s=&showtopic=51683&view=findpost&p=256821

No!

But he is an active Flame Warrior:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm

you're bitter, stupid,useless and completely senile kenny yo ;D and spare us the malware expert label, you don't know anything about malware; you're bragging like a 4 years old >>> this is called regression.
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 26, 2010, 11:59:14 PM
That link is for TH3.0.  Im using TH2.0 because BirdieSync wont play well with TH3.0.

See the thread http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.0 .  There are pictures of exactly how to set up Thunderbird 2 to use Gmail with Avast! 5.0.545.  Previous version 4 didn't scan gmail at all unless you went through the Stunnel scenario.  Don't know how your search missed it.

doesn't make any difference, thb2 or 3, the settings are the same. So do what I told you here, or see the screen shots posted in the other thread by me and sded, it's the same http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.msg506322#msg506322

I did but with no luck.  Im running POP.  143 didnt work.  What port # should I use for POP?
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Hermite15 on May 27, 2010, 12:02:52 AM
That link is for TH3.0.  Im using TH2.0 because BirdieSync wont play well with TH3.0.

See the thread http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.0 .  There are pictures of exactly how to set up Thunderbird 2 to use Gmail with Avast! 5.0.545.  Previous version 4 didn't scan gmail at all unless you went through the Stunnel scenario.  Don't know how your search missed it.

doesn't make any difference, thb2 or 3, the settings are the same. So do what I told you here, or see the screen shots posted in the other thread by me and sded, it's the same http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.msg506322#msg506322

I did but with no luck.  Im running POP.  143 didnt work.  What port # should I use for POP?

I said 110 (for POP)
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 27, 2010, 12:30:26 AM
That link is for TH3.0.  Im using TH2.0 because BirdieSync wont play well with TH3.0.

See the thread http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.0 .  There are pictures of exactly how to set up Thunderbird 2 to use Gmail with Avast! 5.0.545.  Previous version 4 didn't scan gmail at all unless you went through the Stunnel scenario.  Don't know how your search missed it.

doesn't make any difference, thb2 or 3, the settings are the same. So do what I told you here, or see the screen shots posted in the other thread by me and sded, it's the same http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=58711.msg506322#msg506322

I did but with no luck.  Im running POP.  143 didnt work.  What port # should I use for POP?

I said 110 (for POP)

No love at 110.  Just times out.    :(

Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: sded on May 27, 2010, 12:50:40 AM
Uncheck TLS also and check "Use Secure Connection never".
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 27, 2010, 12:59:58 AM
Uncheck TLS also and check "Use Secure Connection never".

I cant.  Wont be able to send.

(http://www.tarzoom.com/photo/Avast.jpg) 
(http://www.tarzoom.com/photo/AvastSMTP.jpg) 
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: sded on May 27, 2010, 01:02:43 AM
If you check "never" and "no", Avast! will take care of providing your secure connection independently of TB.  Works fine for the rest of us.  
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 27, 2010, 04:59:38 AM
If you check "never" and "no", Avast! will take care of providing your secure connection independently of TB.  Works fine for the rest of us.  

Ive done everything you said (including the Avast settings) and Gmail wont even logon, and now that Ive unchecked TLS I now cannot send.  

Seems this is on the gmail end.  Gmail wont let TH 2.0  come in its door to check the password.  When I use the 995 port at least I can get in but no happy happy.

(http://www.tarzoom.com/photo/AvastSTMP.jpg)  <p>
(http://www.tarzoom.com/photo/AvastSSL.jpg) 



Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: PapaSmurf on May 27, 2010, 05:31:16 AM
Ok, sorry for this..I know I am opening up a can of worms..but.......
Average joe user here with another installment of.....
Why do we make life difficult?
I use the Firefox browser, NoScript and AdBlock installed.
I too use Gmail.
There is a very simple reason why I use Gmail....
I get to do all the things with mail as if I have it on my system.....
without having it on my system.
This seems to take care of that whole.."What about the email nasties?" question
that I see over an over. Now before some of you have a cow over this, know this one simple fact...
I have been using Gmail, both personal AND for business and I have not run into anything that I needed to do that I could not do using the gmail servers.
I personally do not use the email scanner because I simply do not need to.
Now, I am NOT suggesting that you abandon the email scanner, I am just asking you
to consider the fact that you may not NEED to download email to your system.
Just something else to consider.
Ok, you may all have a cow now.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 27, 2010, 05:42:04 AM
If you check "never" and "no", Avast! will take care of providing your secure connection independently of TB.  Works fine for the rest of us.  

Its not working fine for most.  Hence all of the post regarding the "G-hell" issue.  Check out the snaps of my TH 2.0 and Avast settings above.

Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: JerryM on May 27, 2010, 05:45:03 AM
My previous version of Avast (before v. 5.0.545) worked great with my POP Gmail in Thunderbird 2.0.  Now, there is an issue with Gmail's SSL setting.    I searched for a fix but only found a drawn out dog and pony show..  Not to mention the need to download another program!

With the popularity of Gmail you would think the Avast people would have fixed this issue.  But whats got me spinning is why didn't the previous version have the Gmail SSL issue?

If I'm missing something please let me know.  Otherwise, I'm uninstalling Avast and going else where.

Thanks,
Nylo

Isn't this essentially the same problem raised in an earlier post?
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=59696.0
I don't know why the problem exists, but the last post in that thread provides the fix.
I think it was covered in a post while I was typing.

It is working well for me now.

Regards,
Jerry
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: sded on May 27, 2010, 05:49:24 AM
Don't know how it got changed, but the gmail.com POP3 account should show port 995 with encryption set to SSL, not none.  So you can change it from that page.  Do you not look at the posted pictures?  Are you not using gmail smtp?  It should show up here with port 587 and TLS.  Try setting the comcast smtp to TLS on the avast! SSL accounts if that is what you are using.
As far as Gmail specifically, all inbound and outbound email is scanned by a very effective virus scanner at the server end, so if you want to bypass the avast! email scanner there is not a great deal of danger.  If you are using some other email server, YMMV, which is where the avast! scanner becomes more useful.
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: KREAT0R on May 27, 2010, 05:52:42 AM
In:    pop.gmail.com port: 995
Out:  SMTP.gmail.com Port: 587

SSL checked.
Secure connection: TLS

use imap for GMAIL

-------------------------------
Examples for Thunderbird:
In:    imap.googlemail.com  port: 143
Out:  smtp.googlemail.com  port: 25

and disable all security conections.

Configure you count in gmail habilite imap

-------------------------------
In avast:
delete all accounts SSL, avast create automatic again the account SSL´s in few minutes

-------------------------------



Sorry my english

Good Luck

Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 27, 2010, 06:07:41 AM
In:    pop.gmail.com port: 995
Out:  SMTP.gmail.com Port: 587

SSL checked.
Secure connection: TLS

use imap for GMAIL

-------------------------------
Examples for Thunderbird:
In:    imap.googlemail.com  port: 143
Out:  smtp.googlemail.com  port: 25

and disable all security conections.

Configure you count in gmail habilite imap

-------------------------------
In avast:
delete all accounts SSL, avast create automatic again the account SSL´s in few minutes

-------------------------------



Sorry my english

Good Luck

I was thinking the same think.  I think you might be right.
Title: Re: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 27, 2010, 08:20:32 AM
Ok, sorry for this..I know I am opening up a can of worms..but.......
Average joe user here with another installment of.....
Why do we make life difficult?
I use the Firefox browser, NoScript and AdBlock installed.
I too use Gmail.
There is a very simple reason why I use Gmail....
I get to do all the things with mail as if I have it on my system.....
without having it on my system.
This seems to take care of that whole.."What about the email nasties?" question
that I see over an over. Now before some of you have a cow over this, know this one simple fact...
I have been using Gmail, both personal AND for business and I have not run into anything that I needed to do that I could not do using the gmail servers.
I personally do not use the email scanner because I simply do not need to.
Now, I am NOT suggesting that you abandon the email scanner, I am just asking you
to consider the fact that you may not NEED to download email to your system.
Just something else to consider.
Ok, you may all have a cow now.  ::) ::) ::)

Gee, thanks for sharing.     ???
Title: Solved: Not Happy /w The New Avast v. 5.0.545.
Post by: Nylo on May 27, 2010, 08:34:20 AM
Its working.    ;D

All I did is checked gmail's SSL.  Go figure.