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Title: About the avast! updates
Post by: rdsu on July 19, 2004, 12:55:23 AM
Hi,

I notice that a lot of times, the avast! takes a long time to put the updates available, when the most of the other's AV put it every day...

What's happen? I see this happen in this website: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10807961~mode=flat (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10807961~mode=flat) , and if I use the avast!, I don't feel secure with this...

Thanks
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: bob3160 on July 19, 2004, 01:07:45 AM
VaMPiRiC_CRoW
Usually 2X a week unless there is important stuff to update than it could happen twice in a day.
Why update daily if there is nothing to update?
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: rdsu on July 19, 2004, 01:19:59 AM
I'm only asking because I see that all the majors AV updates almost every day, and some times more that one for day... So I just was curious to know why avast! doesn't make the same...
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: bob3160 on July 19, 2004, 01:38:42 AM
One of the reasons I got away from Norton was because it took over my whole computer with enough garbage to fill my cities dump site.
I'm very happy that avast only gets updated when needed.
Remember, thats only my opinion.
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: F4 on July 19, 2004, 06:26:05 AM
The avast! team would rather appropriate to answer this question.

Yes, I feel like what VaMPiRiC_CRoW does when it comes to the frequency of update of avast! but I want you to know something. As I can remember I've used avast! for almost 1 year I get online almost 20 hours I receive almost 100 e-mails a day and avast! has never let me down it caught every worms that hit me via e-mail. avast! does what it says right on time.

But I'm not avast! obsessed person that nonsense-fight to everyone who says avast! is not good antivirus. avast! didn't detect some spyware and trojan downloader that got through my machine while other AVs such as Kaspersky, NOD32 detect. But avast! doesn't claim it is good at spyware detection.

I think ALWIL team should write up more about some major ITW malware information on its website. It's not good to see the latest threat is Win32:Sasser on ALWIL website while Beagle.AF is the major latest threat.
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: Eddy on July 19, 2004, 07:20:43 AM
If you post a link to a website, please make sure everyone can open it without the need to create a account at a forum or such.

I happened to be awake and online when sasser was discovered, not that it was of importance to me, cause I keep my system up to date. But curious as I am I watched many av software companies, wondering when they would bring out a update that recognized it. Avast was one of the first!!  :D

Avast never had let me down and who else has a forum where people react so fast and accurate as this one? :D

According to a survey I read, on average 15 new viruses/variants appear daily. How much would you pay for av software that releases a update as soon as one is discovered? Think of all the people who are needed for that. A update released when really needed is fine enough for me.

After all, the best protection against viruses/spy-/ad-/malware is still the human mind and not a piece of software ;)
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: rdsu on July 19, 2004, 01:43:34 PM
Please, click on the link again...

If you post a link to a website, please make sure everyone can open it without the need to create a account at a forum or such.

I happened to be awake and online when sasser was discovered, not that it was of importance to me, cause I keep my system up to date. But curious as I am I watched many av software companies, wondering when they would bring out a update that recognized it. Avast was one of the first!!  :D

Avast never had let me down and who else has a forum where people react so fast and accurate as this one? :D

According to a survey I read, on average 15 new viruses/variants appear daily. How much would you pay for av software that releases a update as soon as one is discovered? Think of all the people who are needed for that. A update released when really needed is fine enough for me.

After all, the best protection against viruses/spy-/ad-/malware is still the human mind and not a piece of software ;)
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: RejZoR on July 19, 2004, 01:56:01 PM
Yeah i remember the Sasser update speed. Also Safi.B
I got VPS update and like 15minutes after that i got around 5 mails with this worm. Sasser was detected and deleted even before it was able to install itself (even without Sasser Patch!).
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: bob3160 on July 19, 2004, 02:11:29 PM
I just went to that URL and it shoes Avast at the top of the list?????
What's the complaint?
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: rdsu on July 19, 2004, 03:10:51 PM
I just went to that URL and it shoes Avast at the top of the list?????
What's the complaint?

 :D

First, the name of the AV's are in alphabetic order...
Second, if you see the link when I started this Topic, you will see that the last update of the avast is from 16 of July, all the others AV's had the updates of 18 of July...
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: RejZoR on July 19, 2004, 03:11:53 PM
Um i see 19 July  :P avast! has 19 Jul and MOST of OTHERS have 18 July. Byte me ;D ;)
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: rdsu on July 19, 2004, 10:01:43 PM
Um i see 19 July  :P avast! has 19 Jul and MOST of OTHERS have 18 July. Byte me ;D ;)

If you saw when I put the link, you will see that only avast! and TrendMicro (PC-cillin) doesn't update since 16 of july...

And you know that I'm right...
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: RejZoR on July 19, 2004, 10:11:08 PM
Yeah,but if you check situation now you'll see that avast! is up to date and others are not.
And don't forget they updated it twice today :)
avast! update system is just fine. Updates in every 2-3 days if nothing special and more if required.
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: lee20 on July 19, 2004, 11:57:15 PM
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Yeah,but if you check situation now you'll see that avast! is up to date and others are not.
And don't forget they updated it twice today
avast! update system is just fine. Updates in every 2-3 days if nothing special and more if required.


yep, its nice to no your always safe with Avast! here, thank you ALWIL Team, i appriciate it.

--lee
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: DavidR on July 20, 2004, 12:40:56 AM
I would much rather updates were as required, rather than to a schedule.

The auto update feature when you go on line is also better than you having to go looking/checking. My experience with avast is better than any of the AVs I have used over the other companies, AVG, PC-cillin, MacAfee, etc.

Not sure if it was my imigination but wern't there two updates today?
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: MikeBCda on July 20, 2004, 01:36:58 AM
I would much rather updates were as required, rather than to a schedule.

Not sure if it was my imigination but wern't there two updates today?

I think you'll find that just about every a-v around works to a fairly standard schedule when it's "slow", in terms of new stuff appearing in-the-wild, but updates much more frequently if there's a flood of new viruses.  I don't think anyone else can come even close to Kaspersky's "standard", which is several times a day, but that's still their normal schedule.

And yes, we've seen two updates (so far) today -- I've seen 3 a day sometimes when the net is going crazy with new infections, and others who've used avast longer than I have may know of times when there were even more updates in a day than that.

So avast, like every other a-v I know of, updates "on schedule" when that's appropriate -- and as required when that's more appropriate.

Best,
Mike
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: rdsu on August 08, 2004, 06:10:27 PM
4 days without updates...

Security Software Updates 08 Aug 2004
 (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10993515~mode=flat)
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: bob3160 on August 08, 2004, 06:25:07 PM
VaMPiRiC_CRoW
Maybe it's the others just catching up to us???? :o ;D ???
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: MikeBCda on August 08, 2004, 07:11:23 PM
Keep in mind that we're still over the weekend, and just like any other business (and Alwil is a business, after all) things do slow down over the weekend.

Don't worry, they're not "sleeping at the switch" -- if something considered fairly high-risk emerges and can be properly identified, we'll get updated defs for it right away.  But if things stay quiet, then we'll most likely see a fresh update (or possibly more than one) sometime tomorrow.
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: Vlk on August 08, 2004, 07:16:48 PM
Well it's quite normal that the last update was on Thursday... I mean, it's halcyon days, right? ;) (Uhmm, I meant, slack season ;))

Or do we have to issue void updates just to make you happy? C'mon...
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: DavidR on August 08, 2004, 08:51:48 PM
4 days without updates...

Security Software Updates 08 Aug 2004
 (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,10993515~mode=flat)

With AVG it was a regular occurance to go 7 days (sometimes longer) without an update. Even then some of  the updates failed and I had to download and install it manually.
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: lee20 on August 08, 2004, 09:02:26 PM
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With AVG it was a regular occurance to go 7 days (sometimes longer) without an update. Even then some of  the updates failed and I had to download and install it manually.


That was a constant occerence when i used it, that was why i was so suprised when i changed to avast!.  :D

--lee
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: bob3160 on August 08, 2004, 09:26:21 PM
How about all the times when we had more than 1 update in a day?
I guess you can't please all the people all the time.
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: Vlk on August 08, 2004, 10:19:13 PM
Updating is not about pleasing anyone, it's about efficiency.
We dislike the idea of making updates even if they are completely unnecessary. Luckily our business is not driven by marketing and sales people... :)
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: rdsu on August 08, 2004, 11:43:04 PM
OK  ;)
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: mikedallos on August 08, 2004, 11:45:45 PM
Pun  intended........

Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: Jlo on August 08, 2004, 11:58:10 PM
Hi,

Just to throw in my 2 pence worth.

I have used Avast Home Edition for about 8 months (Before used F-secure) and Avast as not let me down.

As the previous post said Avast Updates a couple of times a week but when outbreaks occur the defs are out within a couple of hours/ Look at the VPS history on the website. Sometimes there are couple of VPS releases a day during oubreaks.

F-secure was very good to but 2 big names 'Norton AV and Mcaffee' only put out there defs once a week. They will update in 'outbreak' situations but in many cases they have been several hours later after F-secure, Avast have updated.

Well done Avast. You are doing an excellent job.

Kind Regards

Jlo
Title: Re:About the avast! updates
Post by: neal62 on August 09, 2004, 08:42:49 AM
A long time ago I used McAfee on my first pc because it was on the pc from the factory. I tried to download updates on line when it said there were updates due. Huh, you might have just as well gone to the store, taken a nap, and do many other things while waiting for the updates to download from their site. This was usually done once, maybe twice per week, thats all. Norton was next. Wasn't impressed with their ability to keep up with the threats that were on the Internet in a timely manner. Then came along AVG which I used. It didn't update as efficiently as Avast has but was somewhat better than the first two I mentioned. Folks, feel very lucky to be able to use the Avast program because its a very efficient program with a very good forum that most other virus companies don't have. Thanks ALWIL :D