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Title: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: ardi_sugianto on June 29, 2010, 03:03:50 AM
hi in my comp i have avast free and comodo firewall, is my comp safe enough to go online? if isn't, what program i should have :)
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Lisandro on June 29, 2010, 03:08:26 AM
Well, it's not bad. Are you using Defense+ of Comodo or only the firewall?
If not, why not?
Other things will be ThreatFire (worse than Defense+), WinPatrol, and MBAM (for on demand scannings).
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: ardi_sugianto on June 29, 2010, 03:11:50 AM
Well, it's not bad. Are you using Defense+ of Comodo or only the firewall?
If not, why not?
Other things will be ThreatFire (worse than Defense+), WinPatrol, and MBAM (for on demand scannings).


yes i use defense+ but i set in training mode
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Lisandro on June 29, 2010, 03:17:26 AM
yes i use defense+ but i set in training mode
So, after you use the computer for a while, set it to the protection mode.
When it alerts you in the future, investigate ;)
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 29, 2010, 05:28:16 AM
yes i use defense+ but i set in training mode
So, after you use the computer for a while, set it to the protection mode.
When it alerts you in the future, investigate ;)

Tech you mean Paranoid Mode not protection mode ;) In the Comodo Defense+, Comodo Safe Mode is very similar to Training Mode it has a better protection then the plain training mode.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Dch48 on June 29, 2010, 05:52:58 AM
Safe mode is nothing like training mode. Training mode allows everything. Safe mode only allows the actions of known safe things and in my opinon is the mode to use.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: ardi_sugianto on June 29, 2010, 06:42:54 AM
oh btw why until now my avast hasn't get notification about program update? is the server full?
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Gargamel360 on June 29, 2010, 06:47:41 AM
I think they might release the notifications in a couple increments, to try and lighten the load a little.
Last time I got notification around 24 hours after release, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: ardi_sugianto on June 29, 2010, 09:02:41 AM
i wait for notification but until now there is no notification but when i open avast gui in maintenance, avast said that there is new version program update, why in avast gui can detect program update but there is no notification pop up? ???
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Dch48 on June 29, 2010, 09:09:15 AM
I've never seen a notification popup, just the alert in the GUI. Maybe I just didn't wait long enough since I updated within hours of the new versions being released.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: ardi_sugianto on June 29, 2010, 09:21:21 AM
I've never seen a notification popup, just the alert in the GUI. Maybe I just didn't wait long enough since I updated within hours of the new versions being released.
usually the notification pop up is blue color
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: SafeSurf on June 29, 2010, 10:56:09 AM
New version notification in the GUI is in red for version 5.0.

ardi_sugianto, please update your signature in you Profile so that in the future people can help you better knowing what you have on your machine.  Thanks.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: ardi_sugianto on June 29, 2010, 11:12:26 AM
i mean notification pop up ;D
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: ardvark on June 29, 2010, 12:53:24 PM
Other things will be ThreatFire (worse than Defense+), WinPatrol, and MBAM (for on demand scannings).

Hi ardi_sugianto...

Installing SpywareBlaster (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html) might not hurt. :)

Regards...
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Lisandro on June 29, 2010, 01:37:21 PM
Tech you mean Paranoid Mode not protection mode ;)
You're right. I'm not that used with CIS and Defense+ yet.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Shiw Liang on June 29, 2010, 07:08:32 PM
I agree with ardvark :)
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: polonus on June 29, 2010, 07:26:06 PM
Hi folks,

I do not have much on this Vista laptop, that is my dear wife's, avast resident av protection, Super AntiSpyware on demand, Spywareblaster, ClearProg, Process Monitor, and in-browser protection for the browser I use on her computer flock: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.16) Gecko/2010010414 Firefox/3.0.16 Flock/2.5.6 ID:2010010414: NoScript, firekeeper, ghostery (for trackers), Fiddler, HTPS-everywhere, RequestPolicy, Inline Code Finder, Malware Search and WOT, and avast shields of-course,

polonus

Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Dch48 on June 30, 2010, 05:30:01 AM
New version notification in the GUI is in red for version 5.0.
Yes it is and that's the only thing I've ever seen. As I said though, I always update as soon as I see here in the forums that an update is available so maybe the reason why I've never seen a popup notification is because I never waited long enough. The two updates I have received so far (.545 and .594) both showed the notice in the GUI that an update was available so I just clicked on that and everything went perfectly. I've only been using Avast! since early May.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 30, 2010, 12:35:44 PM
Tech you mean Paranoid Mode not protection mode ;)
You're right. I'm not that used with CIS and Defense+ yet.

Don't worry about it Tech ;) you'll get used to it CIS and Defense+ is a whole new ball game with Sandbox ;) ;D together and it work very good in four combination Firewall, Defense+ and Sandbox along with your favourite AV Avast ;).
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Lisandro on June 30, 2010, 01:24:16 PM
Don't worry about it Tech ;) you'll get used to it CIS and Defense+ is a whole new ball game with Sandbox ;) ;D together and it work very good in four combination Firewall, Defense+ and Sandbox along with your favourite AV Avast ;).
Not really, I use avast Internet Suite (so, I use avast firewall) and can't use CIS at the same computer.
I used to use ThreatFire as a behavior blocker but, I disabled all other residents when I start to use Comodo Time Machine that will allow system restoration if some software (I test much...) do something wrong. But, indeed, I would like to see avast with this technology (called HIPS, Behavior analysis, cloud, whatever...).
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: SpeedyPC on June 30, 2010, 03:18:50 PM
I would like to see avast with this technology (called HIPS, Behavior analysis, cloud, whatever...).

I agree too ;) I'm not ready for Avast Internet Suite yet I rather way until next year because I would like to further improvement on the firewall I have nothing against Avast I'm not complaining, and I would really loved to see Avast moving towards HIPS, Behavior analysis, cloud, whatever...).

Tech can I ask you something how much improvement on Avast firewall and sandbox compare to Comodo and know they don't have HIPS, I'm not interesting in the Comodo AV as I always prefer Avast AV ;) ;D
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Lisandro on June 30, 2010, 04:00:34 PM
avast (as any other legacy antivirus) has a "default allow" policy, checking the files (and memory, and so on...) against blacklists (of signatures, of behaviors...). It's a superb antivirus.
CIS is a suite with the "default deny" policy, checking the files (and memory, and so on...) against whitelists. It can achieve a huge protection level (specially to zero-day attach, unknown files). The antivirus needs (a lot of) improvement.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Dch48 on June 30, 2010, 10:09:00 PM
I fervently hope that Avast! never starts using HIPS. All they need to do is strengthen the behavior shield and heuristics.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Lisandro on July 01, 2010, 12:38:43 AM
I fervently hope that Avast! never starts using HIPS.
Why not?
Will you bored with popups? Disable them...

All they need to do is strengthen the behavior shield and heuristics.
It's a completely different technology. One will block/deny (only whitelist), other is based on rules (blacklist).
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Dch48 on July 01, 2010, 01:36:45 AM
I fervently hope that Avast! never starts using HIPS.
Why not?
Will you bored with popups? Disable them...

All they need to do is strengthen the behavior shield and heuristics.
It's a completely different technology. One will block/deny (only whitelist), other is based on rules (blacklist).
I have no desire to be bombarded with alerts for perfectly safe and necessary actions being taken by safe applications. I'm aware that the technology is different between HIPS and a behavior shield/heuristics approach. I prefer the latter.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Lisandro on July 01, 2010, 03:31:26 AM
I have no desire to be bombarded with alerts for perfectly safe and necessary actions being taken by safe applications.
In avast world, we always had a very large pathway to configure. avast was never a closed box. You will be able to set the protection level you want/need. Even UAC is receiving configurability in Windows 7... But, ok, just two diverged opinions.
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Shiw Liang on July 01, 2010, 04:06:00 PM
I have no desire to be bombarded with alerts for perfectly safe and necessary actions being taken by safe applications.
In avast world, we always had a very large pathway to configure. avast was never a closed box. You will be able to set the protection level you want/need. Even UAC is receiving configurability in Windows 7... But, ok, just two diverged opinions.
I agree avast is highly configurable :) and avast is also multi - optional ^^
Title: Re: is my computer safe enough?
Post by: Dch48 on July 01, 2010, 09:27:19 PM
Never said it wasn't. I like the program the way it is and don't think it needs the addition of an intrusive and annoying technology like HIPS. Truth be told, I'm not a fan of sandboxing either.