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Consumer Products => Avast Free Antivirus / Premium Security (legacy Pro Antivirus, Internet Security, Premier) => Topic started by: StelRV on July 27, 2010, 06:22:47 AM
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Hi,
would some of you share your tips for system backup I'd like something that might not conflict wit AIS
I made Windows 7 system image back-up with 2DVDS ( DVD+R) but the restore test fail; then I read you need DVD RW. Has anyone have success with W7?
I read mixed reports about using DVDs or External HD booting problem and restore the " boot CD" option"
I'd like to be be able to restore in case of a virus, drive crash\boot problem etc.
I'd appreciate any suggestion
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I do understand right - you pan to back up an entire system on DVDs?
Which tool do you use for this? You can not simply copy all the files which ›are‹ the OS, you need the ability to boot up after restoration, and, much more, WIN refuses to simply copy files-in-use (especially the registry).
And how small is your W7 that it fits on 2 (two) DVDs..? (Assuming 4.7 DVDs).
By the way, it is irrelevant if the DVD is re-writeable or not (except the point you can use then next run again).
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Just buy and external USB HDD. 640GB should give you plenty of space for backups as long as you do not keep everything on the C drive.
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Your system has it's own backup, but I'm assuming you want something else in case of a major system failure if I understand correctly. You could try something like Acronis_True_Image_Home_PC_Backup_&_Recovery or EASEUS, but I'm sure you will find others doing a search.
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When I upgraded my Windows 7 system I purchased a 360GB hard drive to put it on and now have the old 160GB hard drive for backup purposes.
I created a bootable DVD CD thankfully I have not had to use yet.
Read more:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/features/backup-and-restore.aspx
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When I upgraded my Windows 7 system I purchased a 360GB hard drive to put it on and now have the old 160GB hard drive for backup purposes.
I created a bootable DVD CD thankfully I have not had to use yet.
Read more:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/features/backup-and-restore.aspx
I'd like to do that. Would an external HD backup work if system failue? like that boot from F8? I would like to know if you used windows 7 own image restore wizard and Did you have to disable something in Avast? the steps to do the restore.
I created the DVDs using the Windows 7 own tool but I decided to tested and sure enough it did not boot from the DVD so what good is that in case of a system failure. so it might be a good idea to test it :-\ Please let me know
I read in another post and Acronis seems to work with Avast, Avast topic: (Avast! 5.0.221 blocks Acronis Image Mounting)
Does Acronis give you the bootable CD option?
It's DVD a real MUST if your drive need formatting (for whatever reason)? or Would I be able to boot using F8 if the restore image was saved to an external HD? Someone told me and external HD restore wouldn't work if you have to boot from F8. someone also comments this in this article
htp://news.cnet.com/8301-13880_3-10469489-68 Cnet article Free backup utility outshines Windows 7's built-in disk imager
I read pros and cons about EASEUS and other tools but I wanted to know from someone who has used having also Avast installed.
We have 3 PCs at home and recently install Windows 7 and we did not want to have to reinstall drivers, program etc again if something happen, we just want to have a backup other than the Windows own backup.
I appreciate all of your answers
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I do understand right - you pan to back up an entire system on DVDs.
And how small is your W7 that it fits on 2 (two) DVDs..? (Assuming 4.7 DVDs).
By the way, it is irrelevant if the DVD is re-writeable or not (except the point you can use then next run again).
Windows did it in 2 DVDs
I read a lost of people saying they tested after and it would work with the DVDr
Perhaps because windows refformating prior to creating the backup image
Thanks
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My 3 favorite systems for full HDD backup which will allow bare metal recovery are AcronisTrue Image, Easeus TODO Backup (free, but few features), and Macrium Reflect (has a free version very similar to Easeus).
All 3 of these can be run from within MS-Windows.
The key to being able to restore is to create a bootable rescue CD from whichever backup system you decide to use.
Personally, I use Acronis True Image. It automatically backs up my system daily at 03:00 to a secondary drive which contains nothing but Acronis backups. I have it configured to send me an email every day when it is complete.
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@ Pedro Hin
The OP StelRV is asking about Windows 7 backup.
@ StelRV
Do you mean: ???
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13880_3-10469489-68.html?tag=mncol
If you have a system failure then the system probably will not boot up.
The DVD CDs I created do boot up as I checked them.
Read user comments about Easeus Todo Backup:
http://download.cnet.com/Easeus-Todo-Backup/3000-2242_4-10964460.html#rateit
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@ Pedro Hin
The OP StelRV is asking about Windows 7 backup.
@ StelRV
Do you mean: ???
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13880_3-10469489-68.html?tag=mncol
If you have a system failure then the system probably will not boot up.
The DVD CDs I created do boot up as I checked them.
Did you use Acronis? IF so Do I need to disable anything in Avas IS?
I meant if system crash and booting up from DVD or media is possible.
By the way, Yes that was the link.
I did read the other comments and Easeus donsen't seem to work with Windows 7. Thanks
Pedro,
Thanks for the tips
I might try Windows 7 with DVD+RW I'll let you know if it works and if it doesn't work I think I'll try Acronis
Thank you all
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Did you use Acronis?
Not on Windows 7
IF so Do I need to disable anything in Avas IS?
I do not use avast! IS
By the way Acronis costs $29.99USD and seems to update every year needing more $$$ every time.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/index.html
As I only Upgrade on my XP Pro system costs quite a bit less.
I see that you now have more than 20 posts which will permit you to update your profile to include signature information if you like.
Go to PROFILE then Modify Profile then Forum Profile Information then Signature: and put information about your system just like my signature about your system just like my signature so that the helpers can offer pertinent advice.
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Did you use Acronis?
Not on Windows 7
IF so Do I need to disable anything in Avas IS?
I do not use avast! IS
By the way Acronis costs $29.99USD and seems to update every year needing more $$$ every time.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/index.html
I see that you now have more than 20 posts which will permit you to update your profile to include signature information if you like
OK so I understand you use windows 7 own system image tool for your backup, you saved in a external HD and also created bootable DVDs that seem to work.
I will try that again using Windows 7 image tool maybe with a different brand DVDs and external HD
I do not want to be paying every year for Acronis. What if I download the trial version and at least make the backup Dvds? they might work ;D
I added my signature - Thanks
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What if I download the trial version and at least make the backup Dvds?
I may make backups but would be useless.
An external HD would be good as I have one as well but don't use it much as I have backup HDs in both systems.
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@ StelRV
If your hard drive is a western digital you can get a free version of acronis for free.
http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119&wdc_lang=en (http://support.wdc.com/product/downloaddetail.asp?swid=119&wdc_lang=en)
If it's a seagate you can get diskwizard for free.
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/ (http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/)
hope this helps
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I have used windows 7 system image backup on an external HD with no problems. In fact 2 months ago i actually had to do a restore. I also made the dvd restore disk. I started up my laptop and found it said it could not find the HD which seemed to have died. Since it is still under a service contract with Dell they sent me a new one. I had Vista home premium on this system and upgraded it to Windows 7 home premium and it would have been horrible because i would have had to put on vista first then re do the upgrade which i really did not want to do since i needed a bunch of drivers for windows 7. I put in the new HD, inserted the restore DVD and attached the external WD hd. Within 1 hour I was back up and running windows 7 with no problems.
The only thing you cannot do is make a new system image on the external HD without putting it in a totally separate folder because it will replace the old one if you do not. Also you cannot make a system image on your C drive or a partition on your C Drive.
this is a good site for how to do it- also if you become a member they will help you do it
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/675-system-image-recovery.html
robin
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For free I really like Macrium Reflect Free. I used in the past, and no problems with it.
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Call me old fashioned :-[ but when all else fails, for me the most reliable full backup, and fastest full recovery, is still Norton Ghost booted from a floppy disc. I regularly make a full clone to another HDD - it takes a couple of hours (unattended) - but recovery, if needed, is instantaneous! 8)
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I had Vista home premium on this system and upgraded it to Windows 7 home premium and it would have been horrible because i would have had to put on vista first then re do the upgrade which i really did not want to do since i needed a bunch of drivers for windows 7. I put in the new HD, inserted the restore DVD and attached the external WD hd. Within 1 hour I was back up and running windows 7 with no problems
Yes back to vista and redoing Windows 7 is what I want to avoid as in the case of upgrades since I also have 3 pcs upgraded to W7 and especially the older model took more work finding drivers and making some older programs work with W7.
I'm glad to know that even with a new HD you are able to restore from the image.
I'd like to know what type of DVD you use to save the restore I used Sony and did not work I read taht it seems Windows is picky about the DVD used. So I'll try a different one. Thanks for the Info
RnfromTn
Thanks for the Info It helps when selecting which one to buy ;)
Thank you all, I'll have to try making my system backup again this week end
All these tips are very helpful
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Vladimyr,
Norton Ghost booted from a floppy disc?
My old laptop has floppy, Interesting and something to consider Norton Ghost even though the name Norton is scary enough let alone coupled with Ghost ;D ;D
Thanks for the suggestion
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Norton Ghost booted from a floppy disc?
My old laptop has floppy, Interesting and something to consider Norton Ghost even though the name Norton is scary enough let alone coupled with Ghost.
I like your comments. ;D
Yes it is. However Norton is made by Symantec, which you may want to research. Symantec products are nasty to remove from your system and often leave remnants. Ghost is sold alone, but often bundled with other products like other security software, so you need to be careful you don't get anything that will conflict with Avast.
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... you need to be careful you don't get anything that will conflict with Avast.
Yes, you are right
I'm trying to backup my system for prevention but I would research that what I install is tested to work with Avast! and Windows 7
Otherwise the cure might be worse than the disease ;D
Thanks for the advice ;)