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Title: Setup Folder Question
Post by: pepe2 on July 28, 2010, 09:42:23 PM
Hi

I was wondering if the "setup" folder inside C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast5. Can it be deleted? If its only need to uninstall. I can zip it up and move it to my backup drive. Want to save space on my main windows partition.

Thanks for any info.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: Lisandro on July 28, 2010, 09:48:44 PM
No. It can't be removed.
It has, among a lot of other things, the virus definitions.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: George Yves on December 03, 2011, 05:43:34 PM
Sorry but I have to revive this thread with a new question.

Some Russian users complain that there Setup folder is too big and contains more than 175Mb of VPX, ORI and other files. One user says that he has five ORI files dated from Feruary to December. They wonder if Avast will grow in size and ask how to remove "junk" files from Setup folder.

I checked my Setup folder. It weighs 93.5Mb and has only one SETTINGS.ORI file. I look through the files and found only the necessary ones.

Could anybody advise any solution to reduce the Setup folder size?
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: iYogisolutions1 on December 03, 2011, 06:18:07 PM
Hi George Yves

Please try this

After uninstalling the Avast, We can remove the Avast setup folder (C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast5)in the Safe Mode.

Even there is a chance for removing that folder with the help of aswclear.exe.(http://files.avast.com/files/eng/aswclear.exe)


Then You can go for a fresh installation in the Normal Mode with the same license file activation.

Then have a check of the setup folder size.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: Lisandro on December 03, 2011, 06:38:52 PM
George, two things:
1. Internally, set avast to trim the log files. Disable the debug log. Set the reports size.
2. Externally, you can use CCleaner and check to delete avast temporary files. Some users will complain about using a 3rd party tool to manage avast files, but, in all my experiences, avast installation never gets corrupt because of that.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: George Yves on December 03, 2011, 06:39:44 PM
iYogisolutions1
To make it short, you advise the complete re-installation?
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: Asyn on December 03, 2011, 06:45:17 PM
iYogisolutions1
To make it short, you advise the complete re-installation?

Follow Tech's advice. ;)
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: George Yves on December 03, 2011, 06:50:03 PM
Thank you, Tech.
1. Internally, set avast to trim the log files. Disable the debug log. Set the reports size.
I'll tell them to do this but I can't understand how it can reduce the setup folder size.
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2. Externally, you can use CCleaner and check to delete avast temporary files. Some users will complain about using a 3rd party tool to manage avast files, but, in all my experiences, avast installation never gets corrupt because of that.
Ccleaner was the first thing I told them to use but they say that it deletes only some Kb instead of Mb.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: Asyn on December 03, 2011, 06:53:08 PM
Thank you, Tech.
1. Internally, set avast to trim the log files. Disable the debug log. Set the reports size.
I'll tell them to do this but I can't understand how it can reduce the setup folder size.

Well, it wont, but it will prevent it to grow even bigger.
The cleanup must be done manually. ;)
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: George Yves on December 03, 2011, 07:07:07 PM
The cleanup must be done manually. ;)
Manually? I am not sure that most users (and me too) can know what files to delete there. Or you mean something else?
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: DavidR on December 03, 2011, 07:37:13 PM
The .VPX files are crucial as they are like check files for crucial elements of avast, deletion of any of those could have an adverse impact.

I too only have about 90MB for the whole Setup folder and only 1 .ori file (settings.ori) like you.

So it would be interesting to find out actually what they have in that folder, if you have utility something like Print Folders (I use this), to give a print out of the contents of a folder. http://www.stratopoint.com/pfolders.htm

Once installed it gives a right click menu option to print the folder.


Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: Asyn on December 03, 2011, 07:42:09 PM
The cleanup must be done manually. ;)
Manually? I am not sure that most users (and me too) can know what files to delete there. Or you mean something else?

Well, to start with: How big is their folder..??
Maybe a screenshot could help to go into detail.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: George Yves on December 03, 2011, 07:42:55 PM
Thank you, DavidR.

I will ask such users to post screenshots or lists of their files.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: Asyn on December 03, 2011, 07:46:09 PM
I will ask such users to post screenshots or lists of their files.

Also ask them about avast version and OS.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: ady4um on December 03, 2011, 07:46:33 PM
The path you mentioned is there from Avast 5. That means that they have been updating avast since then (about a year).

1_ Backup license file.

2_ Run the removal utility under Windows Safe Mode. Run it several times, selecting for each run each version / edition of Avast you ever had installed (and/or updated, like for example, from avast 5 to avast 6.x). If necessary, correct the selected folder in the removal utility.

3_ Manually search and delete any (hidden) folders that contain "avast" or "alwil" in their names (like, for example, "avast 5").

4_ Under Windows Normal Mode, with the latest stable version of avast, "right click -> run as administrator" on the setup.exe.

5_ After the installation, reboot immediately, without configuring anything else.

6_ Configure, update and insert your backed up license.

The folders of avast are not "static" in size, and they may get to 160MB "sometimes" too, because of the increment definitions updates. After a while, avast "cleans" itself.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: DavidR on December 03, 2011, 08:07:20 PM
George Yves, didn't mention a path, that is from the old first post from July 2010, since his question was related he revived the topic.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: ady4um on December 03, 2011, 08:22:10 PM
George Yves, didn't mention a path, that is from the old first post from July 2010, since his question was related he revived the topic.

Yes, but then why to post in this old topic?

In any case, the general instructions are still valid so to "clean" the folders.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: DavidR on December 03, 2011, 08:24:10 PM
Because as I said it a question about the setup folder.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: George Yves on December 04, 2011, 08:10:58 PM
At last I got some data to play with.

First, user ivanovich says he has Win7 Start. He installed AIS 6.0.1289 on Oct 11, 2011 and updated it to 6.0.1367 on Nov 29, 2011. This user posted a lot of attached screenshots but the setup folder can be viewed only in three of them: here (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=89327.msg715304#msg715304), here (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=89327.msg715305#msg715305) and here (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=89327.msg715306#msg715306).

Second, user About Blank shows his Avast version in his signature and his screenshot of the setup folder in the attachment (http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=89327.msg715354#msg715354).
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: DavidR on December 04, 2011, 08:27:26 PM
Well I would say About Blank as an AIS user is probably seeing what is normal as there are three sandbox relater entries, ais_snz?-?.vpx. He is also going to have the firewall and anti-spam elements also.

It looks similar for ivanovich as he too is using AIS.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: George Yves on December 04, 2011, 08:44:31 PM
OT: User ivanovich seems not to be an experienced one. He has just posted the following text (the translation is mine - GY):
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An interesting fact!!! I limited logs for 7 days, temporary logs - for 1 day. The max size of a log is 500Kb now. And the total size of Avast has been reduced to 330Mb from the previous 399Мb!!!! The Setup folder has been reduced from 175Мb to 172Мb. The defs folder has been reduced to 66Мb from 132Мb. Totally I reduced my Avast up to 69Мb!!! Who can explain this fact ???

And he wrote it after I had asked him to limit the logs!
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: DavidR on December 04, 2011, 09:23:29 PM
Unfortunately it seems that those how go delving deep into logs and folder size, etc. often haven't the knowledge to understand what it is telling them.

I have restricted my log sizes, etc. but for me that doesn't make a great difference and I tend to keep my nose out of the logs and folders, unless I have a problem that I'm investigating.

Normally that is when I look for reference purposes (like this topic), other than that I let avast take care of itself.

Saving a whole 69MB is a bit of a joke in these days of monster hard disks. If your system is really that short on space that 69MB makes a difference you need to get a bigger drive or take a serious look at what you have installed, is it absolutely essential.

Hopefully he won't take a look in the defs folder as that fluctuates by 66MB a pop as a new defs folder is created and the old one subsequently removed during avast housekeeping..
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: Tetsuo on December 05, 2011, 11:15:53 AM
I have restricted my log sizes, etc. but for me that doesn't make a great difference

I know that a lot of Avast! experienced users restrict log size but, generally speaking, I've never seen what's the point (in terms of performance, not privacy or similar stuff if applicable) in changing the default maximum size of each log. I have a six year old machine, I use Avast! in conjunction with a HIPS software on Win XP and my system has no issue managing a 4096KB size log.

Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: George Yves on December 05, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
DavidR
I understand that the size of 170 Mb is normal for Setup folder in AIS, isn't it?
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: DavidR on December 05, 2011, 05:03:50 PM
Given the size of those additional three ais_snz?-?.vpx files they were around 20MB+ if I remember correctly, add that to your/my 90MB+ of the free version and I would say it is close to being the norm.

Unfortunately when talking about the sandbox, there isn't a norm if the user sandboxes more applications then I guess they would have more of these ais_snz?-?.vpx files. I also don't know how the safezone would fit in here if anything .vpx wise is recorder here.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: George Yves on December 05, 2011, 07:27:38 PM
Thank you, DavidR.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: DavidR on December 05, 2011, 08:19:39 PM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: jialblo0od on August 29, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
You do not know my pain.


Title: Re: Setup Folder Question
Post by: Eddy on August 29, 2017, 08:00:02 PM
If you want support/help, please start your own thread in the correct forum and provide details.