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Title: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: modati on August 08, 2010, 02:04:27 AM
I know most people would say ZoneAlarm free one.  That's what I have used for some time however I have noticed some functional differences since I started using it.  Not security compromising but not appealing to my compulsive behavior in doing things the same way continuously.  I'm curious to see some valid opinions and not go with my stubborn opinion.  What firewall do people enjoy, how long have you used it and why do you use it over another?  Thanks for the information I am just looking to keep current with what is best.  Have a great day :)
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Lisandro on August 08, 2010, 02:09:46 AM
In my personal opinion:

Comodo (http://www.filehippo.com/download_comodo/)
Online Armour (http://www.tallemu.com/free-firewall-protection-software.html)
PCTools (http://www.pctools.com/firewall/download/)
Outpost Firewall Free (http://www.filehippo.com/download_outpost_firewall/)

Personal Firewall Tests & Results. Firewall rating:
http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-challenge/results.php
About the leak tests limitations: http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=29259.msg247460#msg247460
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: ardi_sugianto on August 08, 2010, 02:11:23 AM
i use comodo firewall ;D, because it is absolutely free, and also it's feature.
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: modati on August 08, 2010, 03:14:10 AM
Ohh Comodo huh?  Never herd of it but I have been out of the loop for some time hehe.  Two recommendations for it.  I'll have to try that site you posted Tech.  Just out of curiosity what makes Comodo shine over the rest?
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Dreamy on August 08, 2010, 05:22:52 AM
My vote would be for "Online Armor Free" its a personal choice really.

Online Armor & Comodo either is as good as the other.  :)
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Dch48 on August 08, 2010, 05:24:16 AM
The Comodo Firewall can be used with or without the HIPS component it has. With or without the HIPS, it's an excellent, highly configurable two way Firewall and has no compatibility issues with the free Avast!.
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Asyn on August 08, 2010, 01:07:41 PM
The Comodo Firewall can be used with or without the HIPS component it has. With or without the HIPS, it's an excellent, highly configurable two way Firewall and has no compatibility issues with the free Avast!.

+1 :)
asyn
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: rdmaloyjr on August 08, 2010, 04:36:12 PM
I like ZoneAlarm Free for it's very easy to use, lite on my systems & trouble free.

Back when I was on DSL my modem went bad, Verizon sent me a new one (same model),

but it was pinging and/or responding to pings.  As a result a hacker was trying to break into

my system, I got a pop up alerting me that someone was trying to shutdown ZoneAlarm.

ZoneAlarm held strong!   Just for fun and to confuse the hacker(s) I put in a live MEPIS

Linux CD before I went to bed.  They never came back. ;D

Until your security programs are put to the test you don't know how good they are.

Avast!, WinPatrol and ZoneAlarm have never let me down. :)

Keep your security programs up to date!

ZoneAlarm Free 9.3.014.000 is the newest version.  http://www.filehippo.com/download_zonealarm_free/
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Bellzemos on August 08, 2010, 05:52:28 PM
Which of the three (Comodo, Online Armour and Zone Alarm) is lighter on the system (eating less RAM and CPU)? And which one is the best to use (meaning no problems) with Avast AV and Sandboxie? Thanx! :)
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: rdmaloyjr on August 08, 2010, 06:18:08 PM
We can't go by Task Manager to determine who is lighter as a lot "flies under the radar".

We can only go by "seat of the pants feel".
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: rdmaloyjr on August 08, 2010, 06:24:56 PM
I like ZoneAlarm Free for it's very easy to use, lite on my systems & trouble free.

Back when I was on DSL my modem went bad, Verizon sent me a new one (same model),

but it was pinging and/or responding to pings.  As a result a hacker was trying to break into

my system, I got a pop up alerting me that someone was trying to shutdown ZoneAlarm.

ZoneAlarm held strong!   Just for fun and to confuse the hacker(s) I put in a live MEPIS

Linux CD before I went to bed.  They never came back. ;D

Until your security programs are put to the test you don't know how good they are.

Avast!, WinPatrol and ZoneAlarm have never let me down. :)

Keep your security programs up to date!

ZoneAlarm Free 9.3.014.000 is the newest version.  http://www.filehippo.com/download_zonealarm_free/

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with ZoneAlarm ;D

Borrowed From Jim Croce ;D  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQrTGE4wwwA
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Dch48 on August 08, 2010, 06:56:05 PM
I had various problems using all of the free firewalls other than Comodo with Avast!. Zone Alarm was bulky and I didn't like the interface. PCTools had problems with Steam and uTorrent and also caused one hard lockup when opening a program the first time. I had to disable Avast! to let the Firewall create rules. I had the same lockup problems with both Online Armor and Outpost and when I disabled the HIPS of OA, I suddenly lost permissions to my hard drive. It said I had no page file and wouldn't let me create one. It also said I couldn't use system restore and even system info didn't work. I did a Google search and found a post that said to check the security settings for the HD. When I did, I found there was no entry for Administrators or SYSTEM. I had to manually recreate those groups and give them full access to regain full use of my computer.
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Johpoke on August 08, 2010, 07:05:35 PM
I have tried/used pretty much all of the firewall listed above. Choosing the right firewall depends on your preferred configuration UI and desired complexity level.

I have been using Sunbelt Personal Firewall ( http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/Sunbelt-Personal-Firewall/ ) for more then five years, and it suits me.

It comes in a free for home use version, which looses some features after 30 days (I disable them after installation). It can be used in a "simple mode" but it's the advanced mode that I like.

With the advanced mode you can (as usual) allow/block programs etc. But also create your own rules based on program/protocol/IP/range/port etc. (You can even write your own NIPS (signature based) rules using the SNORT standard)

Try them all, use what suits you.
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 09, 2010, 07:02:08 AM
If you are looking for a light weight firewall, I would recommend


GhostWall FireWall


http://www.ghostsecurity.com/ghostwall/

It is only 700kb

But you need to know how to define Firewall rules
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: modati on August 09, 2010, 11:40:47 AM
Right on everybody.  Thanks for all the information I may have to try a few of these just for fun anyway.  ZoneAlarm has this weird feature now where whenever a program opens it adds to the access list with a ? no matter if it tries to access the net or not.  That's one thing that confuses me... maybe there is a way to turn it off but it's enough of a reason to make me stop using it.  Maybe I'm misinterpreting how the program functions, which is completely possible.

Dch48 wow sounds like you have had some pretty annoying troubles with other firewalls.  I don't think I'll be using them.  It seems like Comodo is "the best" but maybe that is a cliche amongst communities like this haha.  I'll have to give it a try instead of ZoneAlarm.  Maybe the GUI suits my compulsive desire to be in control of everything.  This new "smart program detection" thing is bugging me on ZoneAlarm.  I have no idea what feature it is or if I'm crazy but I sure don't like it!  LOL @ rdmaloyjr... that was funny.  Chris Thomas, you indirectly helped a user in the virus & worms section on dialup looking for protection/cleaning procedures, thanks for the information everyone.
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Chris Thomas on August 10, 2010, 11:08:35 PM
Great!  ;D
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: modati on August 12, 2010, 01:39:27 AM
I've been using Comodo per recommendations here.  It seems to be really solid I like how strict you can set the rules.  It alerts me about even the smallest connections.

Put Alert Settings (Very High)
Predefined Policy (Ask and log any TCP/UDP connection)  <-- Should I just choose the "IP" option it seems to include a lot more protocols.  Not sure if that would cause a huge spam of alerts though.

IT's really smooth!
I set those up for all applications.  I get a lot of alerts but wow I like it!  Really suits my compulsive desire to be in charge of every connection.

Thanks for the recommendation!

Just another question does anybody recommend any ICMP rules?  There are some by default already set I see those as being sufficient.  Thanks again :)
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: modati on August 12, 2010, 02:08:04 AM
Another thing does anybody have a list of all the ports AvastSvc listens/transmits on?  Comodo is showing a healthy group of connection/listens from AvastSvc.exe.  Just curious if someone has already done this :)
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Dch48 on August 12, 2010, 09:59:25 AM
Another thing does anybody have a list of all the ports AvastSvc listens/transmits on?  Comodo is showing a healthy group of connection/listens from AvastSvc.exe.  Just curious if someone has already done this :)
I was concerned about it too until it was pointed out that it was the web shield that was causing all those connections and it was normal behavior.
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: modati on August 12, 2010, 08:28:05 PM
Awesome!  I figured it was part of the resident protection but I appreciate the conformation.  Looks like Avast! is doing quite a bit to protect gotta love that :)
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: jadinolf on August 15, 2010, 02:16:00 AM
I have AIS on three computers but I STILL have Zone Alarm FREE on two computers and don't plan on changing.

I have used ZA ever since I discovered this wonderful world of computing and have had my best luck with it.
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Dch48 on August 15, 2010, 05:57:56 AM
If it works for you, go with it. No 2 computers are the same due to the multitude of things that can be installed on them and the many configuration options in the OS and the installed applications.
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: SpeedyPC on August 15, 2010, 09:36:25 AM
Modati,

I'm using the latest Comodo Firewall v4.1 and I have no problems at all and no major popup warning message every time I turn on my PC and use it you only get popup message when you first installed Comodo and it does take a bit of time setting it up and how it works, my Comodo security combination are the Firewall, Defence+ and Sandbox along with my free Avast 5 anti-virus there are some people don't like the Comodo Defence+ and Sandbox and they just prefer to used just the two way firewall which is normal I prefer all 3 Comodo security combination with my Avast ;).
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Lisandro on August 15, 2010, 08:46:33 PM
I prefer all 3 Comodo security combination with my Avast ;).
CIS version 5 will add cloud analysis (both on-demand and on-access, the last one with a promised 15 minutes of delay).
You'll have a very good security pack, both policies: the "default allow" of avast antivirus and the "default deny" of Comodo.
Title: Re: Mixed emotions on... what is the best free firewall?
Post by: Dch48 on August 16, 2010, 06:13:55 AM
I prefer all 3 Comodo security combination with my Avast ;).
CIS version 5 will add cloud analysis (both on-demand and on-access, the last one with a promised 15 minutes of delay).
You'll have a very good security pack, both policies: the "default allow" of avast antivirus and the "default deny" of Comodo.
Yeah I don't understand where Comodo is going. First they add a sandbox that was supposed to enhance usability but because it's automatic, actually had the opposite effect and now they're adding cloud scanning which they even freely admit will slow everything down. I just don't get it. I don't think I will ever return to using any more than the basic firewall functions. If I had Windows 7, I wouldn't even use that. I'd go with Avast! and the Windows 7 Firewall.